Stupid shit in Medellin

[Mtndew704]

MTndew, I know you are arguing with JJBee and he made this dumb comment about seeking when he is never used it and now you are doing the same thing.

With seeking, the women have nothing in common outside of putting a profile up on a more socially acceptable website than a hooker site. I have seen all kinds on there from the highest of high end society to the lowest of scumbags.

What does mileage even mean? If the 18 year old Vennie is strung out and ugly and gives a shitty performance, then I would much rather see an attractive, clean, and healthy older woman who has seen a lot of guys. Truth be told, Mtndew, you and everyone else here has no fucking clue how many guys any woman has been with, and I do not know anyone who cares.

It is just part of this notion that the women I am fucking are better than you and as I said, there are no review sites where one can see objectively who the top women are. So arguing about this is an exercise in futility.

I have never said anything about seeking and if your fucking strung out chicas that's on you. I don't pick up ones that do anything other than weed and alcohol. As far as mileage its pretty obvious when the girl has been in the game longer than others, at least to me it is.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm just going off what others have said on this forum about centro. For the most part they report you will find fat, old, below 7-6's in el centro. So you are telling me you will find the same girls on facebook that appear to be 8's-9's? In that case why would anybody bother with facebook or spending more at places like poblado or la isla?

Because to some people setting and experience make a difference where as to others only fucking the chick makes a difference.

A perfect example is in Thailand where I had been saying for years that you can fuck all these gogo bar chicks that guys are spending $100 - $300 to fuck for $30. People said no these are the best girls and pretty much the same shit that is said here. What baffled me is that where did these guys think these "best girls" were in the daytime? Did they assume they were locked in a dungeon somewhere and only came out through a secret tunnel to go into the clubs where they worked at night? Nope. They were the same girls that you see walking around at the mall in the daytime and walking to the market in pajamas to get something to eat before work. But guys do not realize that because they are looking for glamour.

This case was finally proven during the covid shutdown when a board member that was known to go into the clubs and spend a bunch of money to get these so-called best women went on the app to look for chicks. Me, him, and another board member sat down for an evening meet up when he told the story that he later posted on the forum. The same damn chick that he had fucked from the club before for around $200 was right there on the dating app and said she would come over for $30.

The chick comes over about noon and she was not to his liking. Why? Because she had on pajamas, sneakers, and a baseball cap. Remember this is the same damn chick he had fucked before. He came to the conclusion that it was not the girl that did it for him, but it was how the girl was fixed up at the club and the partying ambiance.

Well it is the same damn thing with centro versus Gusto's. In centro the chicks are bare bones as the chick was when she came over to the board member's apartment during covid. For some mongers like me that is fine. Hell, I prefer my chicks to be bed-ready anyway. If a chick comes to my place with makeup and shit on, I make them wash the shit off before we get down to business.

You take the same centro chick and throw her in a dress, put her in make up and fix her hair, then you have dudes paying her $300 in Gusto's. Because yay we are partying and we got the flashing lights and the make-up and the drinks.

When you are in Gusto's look at the chicks' shoes and handbags and when you see those $3 shoes they are wearing and those $5 bags they are carrying, it is pretty obvious where the chicks came from. And it ain't a penthouse around the corner from Gusto's that she bought after completing her medical board exams. They are just normal ass hood chicks same as the ones downtown.

Some guys want to fuck the girl and other guys want to fuck the fantasy. Even though it is the same pussy, it just simply costs more when you want to fuck the fantasy.

[JjBee62]

I'm just going off what others have said on this forum about centro. For the most part they report you will find fat, old, below 7-6's in el centro. So you are telling me you will find the same girls on facebook that appear to be 8's-9's? In that case why would anybody bother with facebook or spending more at places like poblado or la isla?

Same could be said for places like tijuana, if the same was true, why would anyone bother with the club girls if they look exactly the same as the girls on the street. Obviously they don't, at least iv'e never seen one on the street that looks better than any hk girl I been with. But if everyone felt that way those clubs would be out of business. So I'm genuinely asking you why bother than if there's 8's-9's in el centro as you claim unless I misunderstood you?

1. Many people are extremely uncomfortable in El Centro. They see danger everywhere and can't handle being there. This is reflected in their views on El Centro. Someone just mentioned "walking around in fear. ".

2. There are many fat and ugly (IMO) women working in El Centro. It's not uncommon to walk through once and not see anything appealing. The same thing can happen at Gusto or La Isla. The best looking girls have no trouble finding customers.

3. Everyone has a different comfort zone. Many people are not comfortable with getting girls from the street. Different venues for different tastes.

4. Everyone has different tastes. Take you and Elvis. You aren't going to pick the same girls. Some guys aren't interested in 18-24 girls, they want them older. Some want big, small, dark, light, short or tall. Anyone's rating of a girl doesn't consider your tastes.

[JjBee62]

Like I said I'm only joking, don't take anything personal. I am enjoying reading back your statements I am learning so much haha.

I have a question, if age is not a big factor why I'm I hearing from everyone that they frown upon sex tourists in Colombia?

Apparently they even have signs at restaurants in poblado mentioning they won't serve you if they suspect you are one. Obviously anyone of your age seen with a girl in her 20's at one of these establishments would turn heads. I think it's discrimination. Have you encountered this? Have you been refused service or do you avoid establishments with these signs?

The "Say no to Sex Tourism" campaign is at least 6 years old. Many hotels won't allow any visitors. The last 2 Poblado apartments I've rented either specified no prostitution or had the sign. Both places also freely allowed visitors as long as they have proper ID. I've had no issues in either place, although it's just my girlfriend in this one.

I've eaten in many of the nicer restaurants in Medellin with women 30-40 years younger than me. On more than 1 occasion the girls were certainly dressed like hookers. I've never been denied service, or gotten nasty looks. Occasionally I'll get a nasty look when I'm walking alone.

There was 1 time with my old roommate. She's a tiny webcam model, often dresses a bit sexier than I'm used to, and with the right makeup and clothes could pass for 14 (she was 25 at the time). We were walking through Santa Fe mall and an old guy (like me) gave me a nasty look. Other than that, nothing. Yesterday my girlfriend's grandmother met me for the first time, she was happy to meet me.

[Mr Enternational]

4. It's less likely to happen with a girl at a place like gustos or la isla where they charge more but their not going to risk losing repeat business to drug someone vs meeting a girl with probably a friend at a random bar / club.

Gusto's is a random bar / club. La Isla is the one where the chicks actually work at the establishment.

[JjBee62]

1. I'm not disagreeing that it can't happen to me, it can happen to ANYONE. Even YOU no matter how knowledgeable you think you are.

2. I'm stating it's most likely to happen with a cheap street hooker vs a online verfied higher end hooker.

3. It's less likely to happen with a girl who clearly has pictures of her family or kids going back years on facebook vs a random thot on tinder.

4. It's less likely to happen with a girl at a place like gustos or la isla where they charge more but their not going to risk losing repeat business to drug someone vs meeting a girl with probably a friend at a random bar / club.

Do you see the pattern I'm going with this? Is it clear to you? I may have not visited yet, but iv'e done my fair share of homework and from what iv'e seen it's mostly girls who are trying to take advantage of guys who are looking for a cheap or free fuck.

1. I actually am reasonably knowledgeable. The number of positive mentions I get, particularly on the Medellin thread, attests to that.

2. And you are 100% wrong. The cheap street hookers work in El Centro and Mayorista. There is at least one other area, but I've never visited it. The expensive street hookers work in and near Parque Lleras. The cheap street hookers almost exclusively use short time rooms, 15-30 minutes, unless the client pays for more. They can't drug and rob customers. When someone comes to change the sheets, or towels, they are going to notice an unconscious man on the bed.

On the other hand, if you're going to drug and rob someone, you're going to look for the best score, like the guy looking for the "high end" girls.

3. You're right. No argument on that. Unless someone has hijacked the girl's Facebook, or has copied all of her stuff and opened a new account. Happens all the time. Facebook girls are constantly posting that someone else is using their pictures.

4. Gusto and La Isla aren't similar types of clubs. It's unlikely to happen at La Isla, because the girls usually fuck on-site. The unconscious body left in the room is going to be an issue. Gusto is a different story. All a girl needs to get in is a cedula and the cover charge, or a friend who is a bouncer. It's the ideal place to find a target. You know the guy has money and he's likely to be inexperienced. He's probably drinking and looking for a girl. Since the girls go back to your place, not only is the unconscious guy problem eliminated, they get access to computers, phones, credit cards and anything else of value.

Your closing paragraph is partially correct. Many victims were guys from Tinder who believed they were making a connection, or had chemistry. Do you see the pattern?

[JjBee62]

No, MB, as I got older and wealthier, I got more picky versus less.

Still, what is the point of it? You seem to want everyone to agree with you on what a 10 is.

These are two ten types I saw on TV from Colombia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apkAvzqCITw

There was another girl named Paola Mayfield who was IMO not in this woman's class who was on 90 day fiance and was the talk of many guy's dreams of a Colombian beauty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDXEI5R2_b4

You can see her work out at the one minute mark. I would actually put her as a 9 not a 10.

Then there are these two women who are 10's IMO.

The other 10 I have met in Colombia is my current gal.

So I have been on dozens of dates and seen thousands of Colombian women, and these are the ones with the exception of Paolo, I would pretty much put in the 10 class. If guys are happy with other women and there are so few 10's, why are you arguing with them? That does not help you.

For all my talks of 10, my ex Venezuelan fiance was a 10 type and after our breakup, I was determined to get as good or better than her. And it was really, really, really fucking hard to find it. It took me a year and a half to find a woman in her class and it was in Mexico City.

If other guys think their fat and ugly women are 10's, agree with them while you keep on the hunt. It is really fucking hard getting a 10, and I wanted as few guys competing for these women as possible.

I mostly agree with what you said and I'm not going to quibble over the rest. It's only the last paragraph I'm interested in.

Almost nobody on this board obsesses over whether their girls are 9's or 10's. While many will throw out numbers, most write more about the service. For most, that's the final piece which determines their satisfaction. Almost everyone is limiting their experiences to women they find attractive. Based on their reports, given a choice of repeating with the more attractive girl with bad service, or the less attractive girl with exceptional service, they'll take the service.

The part that bothers me the most is where you repeat the same thing as a few others, like MB. You assume that everyone else, with few exceptions, is only seeing fat and ugly girls. However, also with few exceptions, you have no clue who everyone is fucking or what they look like.

It's just one of those silly, unnecessary judgemental things which obliterates any worthwhile contributions.

I admit to being curious about the replacement you finally found in Mexico city, since you've reported finding the perfect replacement several times on here. Wasn't the most recent one in Cartagena?

It's not important. As long as you're happy.

[JjBee62]

There are several friends and family members that I have advised to buy the Honda or Toyota over the Mercedes or BMW. I guess they would rather the car look good sitting inoperable in the driveway than being able to have a reliable mode of transportation. And I am a big fan of saying I told you so. My Lexus is 25 years old with 350,000 miles. I would rather spend time and money on traveling and investing than paying and waiting for a car to get fixed every week. My brother could not even open the trunk of his BMW without first buying a $400 battery from the dealer. The joke was on him.

It all comes together.

You can buy a comparably equipped GMC or Chevrolet and you'll pay 10-20% more for the GMC. Same chassis, same body, same engine and transmission, assembled at the same factory by the same employees. Every single piece of each vehicle are manufactured by the same suppliers. The only differences are a few cosmetic items.

All the other car manufacturers, about the only thing unique to each brand are body panels, which are pressed in house. They make their own engines and transmissions, but all of the parts are made by outside suppliers. A built in the US Mercedes about 60% comes from the same manufacturers as any other car built in the US.

I hauled parts for Toyota for several years. Everywhere I picked up, except for Toyota transmission and engine plants, the docks were separated by manufacturer. All of them represented at every place.

Bello, Manrique, communal 13, Popular, Paris, Itagui, along with several other barrios are where most of the working girls in Medellin come from, excluding the Venezuelans. The ate the same foods, went to the same schools and shopped at the same stores. Some use more makeup, some spend more on hair and nails, some have better tattoos, but whether they're charging 50 k or 500 k they all come from the same place.

[LoveItHere69]

Have any of you experienced mongers ventured into these sex parties in Colombia? There's a guy on instagram that hosts parties every week, he usually hires his own girls I believe and it usually consists of orgies and live sex shows, states anybody else welcomed to join but I believe there is a cover.

Some guy hires (pays) girls for sex parties and you are asking if there is a cover? No. He pays girls for you to sex for free. Hells bells my friends do not even do that for me so why would a stranger do that for you? How much does it cost you to have 1, 2, 3, or 4 girls? The costs increase. There is going to be one hell of a cover charge or you will get robbed. Nothing is for free. Why do you not simply ask the Istagram guy? Do you have any life experience or common sense to speak of?

[JustTK]

I'm just going off what others have said on this forum about centro. For the most part they report you will find fat, old, below 7-6's in el centro. So you are telling me you will find the same girls on facebook that appear to be 8's-9's? In that case why would anybody bother with facebook or spending more at places like poblado or la isla?

That is the Q I ask myself. It doesn't make sense to me either. But that is the debate that rages here bcos so many BMs insist that paying more = more 'quality'. Some of us know its not true bcos many of the girls that now work in the high price places / platforms used to work in casas and Centro. It's just a different phase in a career, yet its the same girl.

[Nounce]

I'm just going off what others have said on this forum about centro. For the most part they report you will find fat, old, below 7-6's in el centro..... So I'm genuinely
asking you why bother than if there's 8's-9's in el centro as you claim unless I misunderstood you?

They are not as ugly as people said, and there are not as many 9's and 10's available as you might think. You have to discount the extreme.

I hope you can prove me wrong but you will be lucky to find one that looks like the photos MB1 posted that provide better GFE. It will be a lot of work to find one if you are lucky, then the probability to provide better service at the same time is quite low. Not saying it is impossible, but it is not easy simply because it is perfect and perfect is harded to achieve.

I think you said you are young, know Spanish well, and have enough money, right? You are already well ahead of others, probably including MB1. Why are you arguing with people based on some extreme views you read here? You can let your report speak for you and I look forward to seeing photos from you.

[Anthony2023]

I guess that phrase about not going into the kitchen to see how the food is prepared works in this instance. I get where the mongers' heads are though. .

I'm just going off what others have said on this forum about centro. For the most part they report you will find fat, old, below 7-6's in el centro. So you are telling me you will find the same girls on facebook that appear to be 8's-9's? In that case why would anybody bother with facebook or spending more at places like poblado or la isla?

Same could be said for places like tijuana, if the same was true, why would anyone bother with the club girls if they look exactly the same as the girls on the street. Obviously they don't, at least iv'e never seen one on the street that looks better than any hk girl I been with. But if everyone felt that way those clubs would be out of business. So I'm genuinely asking you why bother than if there's 8's-9's in el centro as you claim unless I misunderstood you?

[Anthony2023]

3. At least in Colombia, age difference is not as big of a factor as you believe. Across the board, from the cheapest hookers to girls from the wealthiest families, it's fairly common for girls to date much older men.

4. It's not a joke. You became offended when people, myself included, suggested you didn't know everything. The more resistance to your lack of knowledge, the more upset you've become.

Like I said I'm only joking, don't take anything personal. I am enjoying reading back your statements I am learning so much haha.

I have a question, if age is not a big factor why I'm I hearing from everyone that they frown upon sex tourists in Colombia?

Apparently they even have signs at restaurants in poblado mentioning they won't serve you if they suspect you are one. Obviously anyone of your age seen with a girl in her 20's at one of these establishments would turn heads. I think it's discrimination. Have you encountered this? Have you been refused service or do you avoid establishments with these signs?

[Anthony2023]

The cheap hookers aren't the ones scoping guys. I'm in list mode tonight.

1. Why waste 20 k worth of scopolamine to steal 200 k or less from a guy?.

2. It becomes really difficult for a cheap hooker to get a short time room if she's leaving 6 drugged customers in rooms every day.

3. Do you understand "Pot. Kettle. Black?" You came off as a know it all and then got your panties in a bunch when people disagreed with you.

4. While I'm not speculating on the probability of you getting scoped, you seem to have something in common with many victims. You ignore or attack people who give advice. You assume you know more about mongering in a city you've never visited than guys who have spent years here. Also, you constantly talk about how much money you'll be willing to spend.

1. I'm not disagreeing that it can't happen to me, it can happen to ANYONE. Even YOU no matter how knowledgeable you think you are.

2. I'm stating it's most likely to happen with a cheap street hooker vs a online verfied higher end hooker.

3. It's less likely to happen with a girl who clearly has pictures of her family or kids going back years on facebook vs a random thot on tinder.

4. It's less likely to happen with a girl at a place like gustos or la isla where they charge more but their not going to risk losing repeat business to drug someone vs meeting a girl with probably a friend at a random bar / club.

Do you see the pattern I'm going with this? Is it clear to you? I may have not visited yet, but iv'e done my fair share of homework and from what iv'e seen it's mostly girls who are trying to take advantage of guys who are looking for a cheap or free fuck.

[Anthony2023]

All the advice and experience on the forum but he chooses to keep his eyes wide shut.

Speaking of Eyes Wide Shut, have any of you experienced mongers ventured into these sex parties in Colombia? There's a guy on instagram that hosts parties every week, he usually hires his own girls I believe and it usually consists of orgies and live sex shows, states anybody else welcomed to join but I believe there is a cover.