Stupid shit in Medellin

[Villainy]

Strata 6 girls would not be offering themselves as paid sex to some materialist, egotistical bloke from a facist state.

How would you know?

[MiamiBoy1]

You aren't sleeping with strata 6 chicas because of your good looks or personalities. Quit lying to yourself.

Why don't you enlighten all of us on what it takes to sleep with strata 6 girls?

[JustTK]

You aren't sleeping with strata 6 chicas because of your good looks or personalities. Quit lying to yourself.

Strata 6 girls would not be offering themselves as paid sex to some materialist, egotistical bloke from a facist state.

[JustTK]

Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates.
So you have tried both Scandallo and SW in El Centro and see no difference as far as satisfaction goes? Either you are blind, or have "pussy is pussy" mentality, in either case, there is, indeed, no difference

Seems that MB is not of the world's great listeners.

[JjBee62]

Well, dating Seeking / Tinder / FB girls is indeed superior to banging Centro SW. I think we both would agree that a job in IT, for example, is superior to mopping floors at Walmart for a minimum wage, for obvious reasons. Any dumbass can mop floor as long as he has arms and legs, but not anyone can succeed in IT. Same goes for ways of mongering. Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. I understand that one may prefer cheap SW girls, rather than spending time and money on Seeking girls, but the truth is, dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.

Speaking of Scandallo, I did suggested Seeking as an alternative for those mongers who, like myself, seek value, but at the same time, not penny pinching. The same girls, or girls of similar quality, could be found online for a much cheaper rate. Me personally, I would rather go out with a Seeking girl, and get her spend a night at my place rather than paying premium for the club ambiance. I have always said that Scandallo is not the best place for price sensitive mongers. And I would never advise someone to fuck Lleras girls, because we all know the same girls can be found in Centro in the daytime for a fraction of Lleras rates. Exact same SW girls, who provide exact same service. Paying 5 x-10 x more for the convenience of Lleras park is ridiculous.

So you have tried both Scandallo and SW in El Centro and see no difference as far as satisfaction goes? Either you are blind, or have "pussy is pussy" mentality, in either case, there is, indeed, no difference

No. It isn't superior. It's just different. A job in IT isn't superior for someone who doesn't have the aptitude, or doesn't have the desire to work in IT. And from my time in IT I can guarantee there is no shortage of dumbasses holding jobs in IT.

Any dumbass can also get girls off Seeking. Just read the posts. The dumbasses aren't hard to find. As a friend used to say, "If you can't see it, you might be it. " There's no "A game" required and not much effort either. Getting girls online to date and fuck isn't difficult. I've been doing it for over 30 years. When you narrow it down to a website specifically designed for dating and fucking, it's about as difficult as getting wet in a swimming pool.

It isn't superior in the same way that steak isn't superior to hamburger. If you only want to eat steak, that's fine. It doesn't make you better than someone who would rather eat hamburgers. The steak isn't superior to the hamburger. Either one can be dry or overcooked. Either one might be delicious.

[Mtndew704]

Well, dating Seeking / Tinder / FB girls is indeed superior to banging Centro SW. I think we both would agree that a job in IT, for example, is superior to mopping floors at Walmart for a minimum wage, for obvious reasons. Any dumbass can mop floor as long as he has arms and legs, but not anyone can succeed in IT. Same goes for ways of mongering. Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. I understand that one may prefer cheap SW girls, rather than spending time and money on Seeking girls, but the truth is, dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.

Speaking of Scandallo, I did suggested Seeking as an alternative for those mongers who, like myself, seek value, but at the same time, not penny pinching. The same girls, or girls of similar quality, could be found online for a much cheaper rate. Me personally, I would rather go out with a Seeking girl, and get her spend a night at my place rather than paying premium for the club ambiance. I have always said that Scandallo is not the best place for price sensitive mongers. And I would never advise someone to fuck Lleras girls, because we all know the same girls can be found in Centro in the daytime for a fraction of Lleras rates. Exact same SW girls, who provide exact same service. Paying 5 x-10 x more for the convenience of Lleras park is ridiculous.

So you have tried both Scandallo and SW in El Centro and see no difference as far as satisfaction goes? Either you are blind, or have "pussy is pussy" mentality, in either case, there is, indeed, no difference

You aren't sleeping with strata 6 chicas because of your good looks or personalities. Quit lying to yourself.

[Elvis 2008]

Sorry. I couldn't address all of your errors in 1 post.

No one cares about any of the personal stuff. The only thing that is relevant in your personal story is your inability to say something sucks. If you hit rock bottom and bounce, the only thing to say is that you learned enough so it will not happen again. Saying it was part of some master plan you hatched is crazy.

Most of the time you see a pro, it is not good. It is like fast food. You are scratching an itch. If you have been on a desert island or the sex prison, and you come to Colombia, I get the need to stuff one's self with it as you have been deprived, but it is rare to have great sex fucking someone on a cardboard bed or massage table surrounded by paper walls with Clorox in the air.

But if you find a good one, then it is worthwhile to try to keep her on retainer. Maybe you find her in a club, on the street, or on line, it does not matter. It pays to keep quality.

Thing is I found it better to have more than one, and I think three or four is ideal. If I rotated my women, I cured the need to get strange. You are getting enough different and you are getting the highest quality women and sex to boot.

Guys who have done this know it is way better than just your random street girl. Some guys call this hooker on retainer but I do not like that because there is more intimacy with these women then a hooker, so I go with sugar baby.

What is annoying about this is when you are paying the retainer fee, some douche like you used to be says that money is not worth it because the girl ALWAYS picks it up at Western Union with her BF. What you are trying to say is how much better you are because damn it, you only pay for sex. You think we are getting ripped off by these women when we are paying a retainer. We were never paying for exclusivity.

Of course, you never got it JJBee. Maybe you do now. You are paying for a good time in the future, a retainer or investment. So when you come to Colombia, she is going to drop everything and show you a good time. You dumb asses made fun of the term investment and now you are doing just that. LOL. I repeat. Welcome to the club.

What you never got is that I do not care if she has a BF. I care that when I am in town she treats ME like I am her BF. I cannot control her when I am not there and vice versa. Hell when I got to know my SBs, they would talk to me about their BF problems.

And of course, if you are collecting the best looking and performing women in your SB harem, you are going to have better sex than just some random WG. How could that not be true? It was stupid that people were actually debating this.

Unless you are exclusive with her and she with you, you do not have a GF, and it is not like having a GF is automatically better. With a GF, there are expectations you have to meet that as a SD you do not. A GF is going to demand more of your time whereas a SB will be on your schedule.

And just because you meet family does not mean the woman is not a SB. You will and should be intimate with your SBs. That enhances the relationship but a SB SD relationship will not or should not exist unless there is money for sex. It is P4 P plus some intimacy.

I honestly think the situation where a man has three or so women he rotates as SBs is ideal. Yes, you will have to cut some off when they get overly greedy, get BFs, or are not dependable. The desire to upgrade also is something that can keep things fresh and exciting. Still, when you have a harem, you have pussy in abundance and companionship that is not solely $ based without the emotional commitment of a typical relationship. It is the most realistic and best sexual relationships that most guys can get.

Most guys get GF to get pussy. They go from starving to abundance, and that is when I think women have the upper hand. With me, I was coming from abundance, and the woman had to earn my giving up other women. She had to be so hot, so good in bed, and so nice that I look at my harem and say "I am better with just this one woman. " That is what I call earning a man's monogamy.

And JJBee if you are not willing to give up other women and she other men, you do not have a GF. You are just saying that because you think GF is a more mainstream term than sugar baby.

You have a real GF when you willingly give up all other pussy.

As for my dispute with Nounce and saying this is the best sex there is, it has to be. If my harem was made up of some of the best P4 P women there are, and if I am giving up my harem for one girl, then she had better be sexually better than the harem. IMO it is very rare to find such a woman.

Maybe you will get this now. It is a natural progression for guys when one is looking for the best sex.

[Mr Enternational]

Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.

LOL. All I date is normal chicks in Colombia and a lot of them are white collar professionals. You are trying to make the shit sound like a unicorn or brain surgery. All it takes is talking to them the same it does for any other chick on the planet. Nothing magical about it.

[RamDavidson84]

Well, dating Seeking / Tinder / FB girls is indeed superior to banging Centro SW. I think we both would agree that a job in IT, for example, is superior to mopping floors at Walmart for a minimum wage, for obvious reasons. Any dumbass can mop floor as long as he has arms and legs, but not anyone can succeed in IT. Same goes for ways of mongering. Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. I understand that one may prefer cheap SW girls, rather than spending time and money on Seeking girls, but the truth is, dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.

Speaking of Scandallo, I did suggested Seeking as an alternative for those mongers who, like myself, seek value, but at the same time, not penny pinching. The same girls, or girls of similar quality, could be found online for a much cheaper rate. Me personally, I would rather go out with a Seeking girl, and get her spend a night at my place rather than paying premium for the club ambiance. I have always said that Scandallo is not the best place for price sensitive mongers. And I would never advise someone to fuck Lleras girls, because we all know the same girls can be found in Centro in the daytime for a fraction of Lleras rates. Exact same SW girls, who provide exact same service. Paying 5 x-10 x more for the convenience of Lleras park is ridiculous.

Hey Miami, always liked your posts BTW. Here is something to think about as you stay in this game longer as I am going to assume you are a younger guy. A lot of the guys who hit centro up for SW are older, don't have much money, and their bests days are behind them. Not all, but a lot. They get better service and have a better more authentic time with these types of working girls compared to the gems you get from seeking or the non-pros you pull. Same thing with your IT job comparison to the custodian. Switch roles with the custodian working the IT which he doesn't have the skills to effectively work at. The stress from being ineffective at his position along with the constant threat of losing his IT job, and it's just a matter of time until he prefers working the lower paying job as a custodian. As a custodian he knows his service is appreciated in this position and he has the comfort of job security. Yes IT is a better job, but some people would still prefer the job mopping the floors. Some guys will always prefer spending their money in centro and getting the type of service they desire which they don't get from the girls on seeking.

For a guy like you who prefers class, keep doing the things you need to do to keep pulling girls from the top ranks of the spectrum as you stay in the game longer.

[Elvis 2008]

Where did I say I gave them advice? I didn't. They ended up going to some bars en el centro at night and got jumped coming out. As is always the case with you, Elvis. You have a story to tell and the truth of the matter doesn't play any part.

It is your story not mine douche, and this is the 4th version of it.

You argued about how savy they were.

Totally not true. You are stroking out again.

The funniest thing you said was I am not fighting the Fed, and you did not list one quote from them to back you up. That pretty much says it all about you. In your fucked up head, you think the fed governors are friends of yours and would never hurt you. Of course, they do not know who the fuck you are.

So if the Fed says they are going to do X, and I invest accordingly, I am not brilliant. That is common sense. OTOH, if you think the Fed is going to do Z when they are saying they are going to do X, and you lose, then you have proven to the world once again you are a fucking moron.

You are not fighting me douche. You are fighting the Fed but are such a narcissist you do not see it. This little exchange like this recent rally may make you feel a little better but when it is all said and done, your portfolio is going to be trash.

Skill in the market is training yourself to go against natural emotions. You make yourself happy when things go down because you can buy them cheaper. The natural tendency of the unskilled was exemplified by what you did when your investment was going well. You are happy, beat your chest about how smart you were, and sold nothing.

I said I bought in April, bought more when the market rallied this summer, and sold half my stake in October, and I will be adding more soon.

[MiamiBoy1]

MB treats people differently based on perceived wealth. He did something similar in Sao Paulo forum but because most Scandello club regulars are high end spenders so he would not treat them the same way he treats Centro rates, instead he proposed Seeking as "value" but he failed to see the value otherwise. I am a regular on both. I have the experience and know mongers from both sides. I don't see a real difference as far as satisfaction goes.

Guys should stop posting something like this. If you read Surfer's report, you think he is not getting GFE when he takes a girl on a trip? And only seeking users get GFE? There is also GB who did something similar. Surfer and GB both speak Spanish, do you guys speak Spanish as well as either one of them?

Most Centro rates are here on longer term. You think they wouldn't get GFE they want with all the time here?

No one hates Seeking, what people hates is the attitude of some Seeking users as shown in the quoted posts, and the superiority displayed.

Well, dating Seeking / Tinder / FB girls is indeed superior to banging Centro SW. I think we both would agree that a job in IT, for example, is superior to mopping floors at Walmart for a minimum wage, for obvious reasons. Any dumbass can mop floor as long as he has arms and legs, but not anyone can succeed in IT. Same goes for ways of mongering. Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. I understand that one may prefer cheap SW girls, rather than spending time and money on Seeking girls, but the truth is, dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.

Speaking of Scandallo, I did suggested Seeking as an alternative for those mongers who, like myself, seek value, but at the same time, not penny pinching. The same girls, or girls of similar quality, could be found online for a much cheaper rate. Me personally, I would rather go out with a Seeking girl, and get her spend a night at my place rather than paying premium for the club ambiance. I have always said that Scandallo is not the best place for price sensitive mongers. And I would never advise someone to fuck Lleras girls, because we all know the same girls can be found in Centro in the daytime for a fraction of Lleras rates. Exact same SW girls, who provide exact same service. Paying 5 x-10 x more for the convenience of Lleras park is ridiculous.

So you have tried both Scandallo and SW in El Centro and see no difference as far as satisfaction goes? Either you are blind, or have "pussy is pussy" mentality, in either case, there is, indeed, no difference

[Villainy]

God, you are a clueless dumb ass. You admit your friends or whatever they are followed your advice and got robbed, and you think that people here are dying to hear your advice on safety? You are a narcissistic boob. My whole point was that your friends should have listened to Paulie instead of your sorry ass.

Where did I say I gave them advice? I didn't. They ended up going to some bars en el centro at night and got jumped coming out. As is always the case with you, Elvis. You have a story to tell and the truth of the matter doesn't play any part.

You are not just anyone. I said unlike anyone else here I wanted to hit you in the head with a wrench, and I suspect that is a common reaction you bring out in others.

What a charming fellow you are. I'm living here in Medellin, Elvis. Bring your wrench buddy. But you might want to bring some salsa too. It might make the wrench taste better when you eat it.

And let's make that clear. You believed my amazing trades were bullshit when they were in the money. When they were not in the money for a few days, you couldn't shut up about how real they were. Maybe you "forgot" that too.

Yes, Elvis I said your trades were BS. You argued about how savy they were. Where was the evidence? Everyone is still waiting. I pointed out that your trades (hypothetical trades) were pure speculation and turned South just as fast as they went up. I said it then and I say it now. You are full of BS. You never made a trade except in your dreams.

And your beef with me was that I come off as too much of an expert? LOL. Well, here is my "expert" opinion: I know envy and jealousy when I see it, and you are such a narcissist you are threatened by it.

I don't think you come off as an expert. Not even a little. Your an insecure child in a man's body. You failed to get an education and your write ponderous posts trying to gain respect on a hooker-board. You'll just have to trust me on this. I'm not envious of your lack of education or success in the world.

BTW did you use all your imaginary gains to get a breast-lift for your imaginary girlfriend with saggy tits? I know I'm not the only one who is dying to know. Jajajajaja.

[JjBee62]

You certainly caught me there, Elvis. I was a little loose with my language, I said "friends" when I should have said "acquaintances". I met them at the St. Peter bar watching the football games.

I must say I'm really impressed. You must remember ever post I've made and here I was, thinking you couldn't even read.

But let's be real. Medellin is a big city but has a large population of people who are barely getting along. Most of them (in my opinion) are honest but if the kids are screaming that they are hungry and they see a "gringo" walking around with a $1,000 I-phone and gold jewelry. Well, what do you think is going to happen?

I think the city is safe as long as you are careful. Don't walk down empty streets at night, don't wear your jewelry or watches. Don't pull your cell phone out on the streets. It takes a little adjusting but nothing hard. Most of the friends I have here (as opposed to acquaintances) have not had any bad experiences. Paulie was ranting and raving about the gangs in the barrios. Yeah they exist but then again, why would you be hanging around alone in one of the poor barrios?

I wrote a bunch of "rules" for people visiting Medellin (called 'villainy's rules' A lot of the trouble guys have with girls here could be avoided. Just as an example: Don't arrange an overnight 'cita' with a girl you've never met. Unlike you, I've tried to post information that would be helpful to people who bother to read the forum.

Really? Jajajajaja. Don't feel too special, he asked me to have a beer with him too. I wonder if he has asked JjBee too? Needless to say, I have better things to do. Like watching grass grow jajajaja.

Oh and how is Miss Saggy Tits? Did you pay for the breast lift yet?

I realize that any time anyone makes a mistake, they must be lying. Right? No one (except you) can ever misspeak or make an honest mistake. I know you're not very analytical and that comes from not having a good education. (Sorry, but we both know it is true) but lying is saying something you know is not true. Mistakes? Misjudgements? Misspeaking? It happens but they aren't lies unless you knew it and intentionally misrepresented it. Which is one reason I laugh at so many of your posts in the Opinions / American Politics section. You call everyone one a dumb Democrat and a liar. Those guys are sometimes wrong, sometimes misinformed but rarely "lying", they just happen to honestly believe things that you don't believe or don't understand.

Speaking about lying. I'm still waiting for you to show me those broker statements demonstrating all those money making trades you claimed you made. I have called "BS" on you many times for those claims. I saw that now you claimed you cashed in before the market had that big bounce the other day. How amazing is your timing? Or how much of it is fantasy BS??

Happy to oblige, Elvis. But only because you asked nicely, jajajajaja.

Oh yes. Paulie did ask me to have a beer with him. That's how all this silly stuff began. We had a few beers and went to a casa. I had a good time, he had a girl with an odor issue. He went back to the casa, or another one and I went home. A few days later he came to Parque Lleras, where we met 2 other mongers, before going to Jenson's bar. We were the only customers. After that my Whatsapp blew up. Mostly complaints about ISG and about certain members. Then came the crazy shit.

Didn't give him much of a thought until he came to Jenson's looking for me a few months later. His tale of woe followed, over beers and shortly after came his next psychotic outburst. That one got him blocked on Whatsapp.

After I called him out over feeding my information to some troll, he admitted it and began sending PMs, several each day. I can't remember what his third blow-up was about, but that was the third strike and he went on ignore.

An invitation to have a beer is an invitation to have him go completely nuts on you. Is there anyone out there who has had a different experience with him?

[JjBee62]

MB treats people differently based on perceived wealth. He did something similar in Sao Paulo forum but because most Scandello club regulars are high end spenders so he would not treat them the same way he treats Centro rates, instead he proposed Seeking as "value" but he failed to see the value otherwise. I am a regular on both. I have the experience and know mongers from both sides. I don't see a real difference as far as satisfaction goes.

Guys should stop posting something like this. If you read Surfer's report, you think he is not getting GFE when he takes a girl on a trip? And only seeking users get GFE? There is also GB who did something similar. Surfer and GB both speak Spanish, do you guys speak Spanish as well as either one of them?

Most Centro rates are here on longer term. You think they wouldn't get GFE they want with all the time here?

No one hates Seeking, what people hates is the attitude of some Seeking users as shown in the quoted posts, and the superiority displayed.

There are guys who are strictly Centro rats who are the same way as some of the Seeking guys.

[JjBee62]

I agree with the other board member that there are many types of mongers and you can't categorize mongers into two categories, winners and losers which is essentially what the other guy is saying. Every monger has his own situation.

That is all I will say about the topic.

As for me, when I go to Medellin, I do what I want to do and I really don't give a shit about what a bunch of anonymous board members say. I would also recommend this approach to other guys, Don't worry about what a bunch of anonymous guys think. Do what you want and pay what you want, it is your money and your time.

I am still in Medellin now But the trip is winding down.

I am having a great time with the girls from Facebook. They have all provided GFE experiences for me and I've been very happy with their performances. Most have been young, in the 18 to 20 age range and I am experienced enough not to believe that any of them are in love with me or have any great desire for me other than for making some money.

That is fine for me. I'm not looking for a girlfriend or a wife here. I'm just looking to have a good time young attractive women for a reasonable price. So far the flakiness is minimal, just one girl but she did it twice to me. There is always some crazy excuse but in both instances, I was able to get another girl for the night so no big deal.

The fun continues for me for a few more days before I return to the reality of work.

I will say that to group mongers together is a bit off. The younger mongers are completely different from the older mongers in their '50's and up. For older mongers, it is not the case that we can't attract women, it is that we are unable to attract women who are in the 18-24 age range. At least that is the case with me.

Glad to hear it's working out for you. Mainly I'm here to comment on the last paragraph.

When we're young, dumb and full of cum, we can easily find women who want to fuck us from 18-60 years old. Up to 30, the selection doesn't change much. By 40 the bottom end of the scale is losing numbers and after 50, you'll have to dig and work to get a good one under 30. When I hit 50 I looked at my easy options, dismissed them, then at my options I could get if I worked hard enough. I decided paying for what I wanted made more sense than working for what I was willing to settle for.