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  1. #6855
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    This shit reminds me of recent talks on social media about gender identity. If you look at a person who has a dick and balls, you automatically assume the person is a male (fact). You don't ask the person how they identify. Maybe that male person identifies as a woman. Who the fuck cares? You see a man and you treat him as such. So don't tell me this BS about "only they know what they are". If he sees a girl 4 days a year, and is not in a committed relationship with her, she is not his girlfriend, period. I'm not saying he can't or shouldn't fuck other girls, it is up to him, I'm not preaching morality here. You clowns just need to call things by their proper names. If he said he had a fuck buddy or a friend with benefits in Sao Paulo or other places he goes to, I wouldn't say a word.
    Now to respond to the other part of this.

    Define committed relationship.

    Years ago I had 2 regular women and a lot of irregular ones. One lived in New York and the other in Arizona. Both had jobs, and supported themselves. Both knew that I was not going to settle down with them. When I was headed towards 1 of them, I would let her know and I would stay with her, whether just 1 night or several days. We would go out, do things, have sex and behave like a couple. When I left, they went back to their normal lives. My commitment to each was to give them whatever time I had available while I was there. They committed to the same thing. While I was away we kept in contact.

    If I was in a conversation with someone and the subject came up, I might refer to them in different ways. The most respectful way, would be as "a girlfriend. ".

    Girlfriend is an easy to understand label. It is somewhat ambiguous. It doesn't tell you whether or not we live together, or even if we have sex. However, it does tell you that we are together, on some level. Fuck buddy is disrespectful, often unacceptable, depending on the company. Friend with benefits is awkward. Just calling her a friend says there's no romantic connection. Girlfriend, is the easiest understood and accurate term.

    This is another situation where you don't get to make the rules. You're welcome to refer to anyone however you see fit. I'll give you an example. Just a few days ago a guy I worked with remarked that another guy was an asshole. I responded that I thought he was a nice guy. No argument. He's welcome to his opinion, I'm welcome to mine.

    All of this could be over and done with in an instant. For some obscure reason you constantly want to judge almost everyone on their morality, terminology, choice of women, methods of finding women, age and a long list of other things which don't pertain to you. Let it go.

  2. #6854
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    I never said I was looking for a wife. I'm open to a relationship if the right person comes along. If I meet the right person from Tinder, or any other app or social media, no problem. I can fuck whoever I want because I'm single, and therefore, I'm not cheating. I had said this before. I didn't say it is unacceptable for you to fuck other women when you were just talking to her. I merely explained the fact that you were not in a rush with her because you had others to fuck. Now, what is NOT acceptable is calling someone a girlfriend and fucking others on the side. This is called cheating. Don't tell me you never fucked others since you relationship started. Because as you stated before, you have been to Colombia for only two weeks or so this year. And she visited you in the states for a short period of time. So don't tell me you abstained from having sex the rest of the year.
    Actually, it's completely acceptable by the only person who matters in the situation. Me. You, nor anyone else gets to decide what behavior is acceptable for me, except when that behavior directly affects you. If you were my girlfriend, and we have only spent 15 or 20 days together all year, how does me having sex with other women affect you? I'm not taking time away from you. I'm both using condoms and limiting my extra-curricular activities to known entities, minimizing the risk of disease or pregnancy. How are you affected?

    I'll give you a hypothetical situation to ponder. Let's say you have a daughter, who marries me. I know. The mere thought nearly causes your head to explode. She is extremely happy with me and she is well provided for. I always treat her with respect and kindness. I also treat you and everyone else in your family with respect. Other than the fact that it's me, I'm the perfect son-in-law. We have a couple of kids and everything remains happily ever after. Then one day you learn that a few times a year, when I'm away for business, I fuck an escort.

    What do you do? Do you rush off and tell your daughter, destroying her happiness, breaking up the family, putting the children through a divorce? Do you risk alienating your daughter, possibly even removing your grandchildren from your life? Do you talk to me about it? What tone do you take? Think before you respond.

    Just so you understand, I don't allow anyone to decide how I'm supposed to live my life. Whether it's what I do for a living, who I fuck, who I vote for, what I eat or where I go, those decisions are mine and mine alone. I would hope you live by the same credo.

  3. #6853
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    This shit reminds me of recent talks on social media about gender identity. If you look at a person who has a dick and balls, you automatically assume the person is a male (fact). You don't ask the person how they identify. Maybe that male person identifies as a woman. Who the fuck cares? You see a man and you treat him as such. So don't tell me this BS about "only they know what they are". If he sees a girl 4 days a year, and is not in a committed relationship with her, she is not his girlfriend, period. I'm not saying he can't or shouldn't fuck other girls, it is up to him, I'm not preaching morality here. You clowns just need to call things by their proper names. If he said he had a fuck buddy or a friend with benefits in Sao Paulo or other places he goes to, I wouldn't say a word.
    Your fact is not a fact. When you meet someone do you immediately remove their pants so you can see their dick and balls? Most of us don't. Instead, we assume that there's either a vagina or a penis down there. However, that's not always the case and it's only part of the equation which determines gender.

    This is going to be a complicated, respectful discussion on the subject.

    I'm going to first go over some niche examples. Until around the 7th week of development embryos have no gender. They are neither male nor female. The primary sexual characteristics begin to form after that. However, there is a rare condition where both genders develop. The result is a person of ambiguous gender. Look up hermaphroditism. There is another rare condition in which primary sexual characteristics don't develop until puberty. A child who was listed as female at birth will, during puberty, develop a penis and testicles, or a boy will develop a vagina.

    Next up, the existence of primary sexual characteristics is, at most, 33% of gender. The next third is determined by chromosomes. Normally females have XX chromosomes and males have XY. Some males have an extra why Chromosome and some females only have a single X. There's also a condition where a child has XXY chromosomes. This condition can result in abnormally small penis and testicles and the development of breasts, along with reduced body hair. If you saw such a person, you might believe they are female when their chromosomal sex is male.

    The final component are the hormones. Generally, the second X chromosome causes the body to produce estrogen. The why chromosome causes testosterone to be produced. However, it doesn't always work that way. Some women's bodies produce male levels of testosterone, while some men have very low testosterone levels and very high estrogen levels. This can also affect appearance. It's quite easy to mistakenly identify the gender.

    Gender is not always a simple dick check.

    Now briefly, to touch on gender identity. Remember that boy in school who seemed more like a girl? Or the girl who looked and acted more like a boy? This is nothing new. Those are examples of very young children who didn't identify with their physical gender. I can think of a few examples from my childhood. . One committed suicide because neither he (or she) nor his family could deal with the disparity. Another got married, had a couple of kids, then got divorced and married a man. He's now happy, productive and very successful.

    Personally, it doesn't matter to me. Does it help the person live a happy and productive life? Why would I argue in favor of their unhappiness over a pronoun?

  4. #6852
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    Is there any relationship that is real? friendship?
    That is a good question. I'm going to try a deep dive on this.

    My opinion is that human socialization has advanced beyond human evolution. We're still animals struggling to use the frontal lobes which differentiate us from the other primates. Our culture tells us to behave in certain ways, but our instincts pull us in different directions. Instincts which drive us are simple, self-preservation and preservation of the species. In the simplest terms our instincts tell us to stay alive and have sex.

    Socialization tells us that our instincts are wrong. We should limit sex and we should be willing to give up our lives to protect others. We should allow others to make the rules which are often in conflict with our instincts.

    Those are just points to ponder. To answer your question, being part of a larger group improves your chances for survival. People who increase your chances for survival, friends you can depend upon, are connected to you by a real bond, a bond formed by your survival instinct. This is true whether they are male or female, whether they are a friend or a partner. Friendship is a real relationship. That is why I keep saying lasting relationships are built through mutual respect and shared experiences.

  5. #6851
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    LOL. The seeking website is set up to meet EXACTLY those kind of women, It exists so you do not have to have those awkward conversations in public.

    In fact, seeking is so widely used that when I went to an American strip club, I would ask the women I was interested in if they had a profile. 90% did, but for most, there was not the huge payout they were expecting so they were not that active on the site. Still, every one of them had heard about it.

    In the USA now, women talk openly about having a sugar daddy. These women would never admit to being hookers, yet the old out of it losers here still think they are the same.

    So if I saw a hot woman at a fast food place, I would ask her if she had heard of seeking and if so, if she had a profile on it. I would be shocked if she had NOT heard of it.

    What is funny about a guy like you is you think you know what is going on. Truth is if you publicly called out a known stripper and said she was a hooker, very few people would object. If you publicly called shake shack girl a hooker, and you have defined her as a hooker if she is on seeking, ten guys would look to punch you in the nose.

    In fact, you are the one who is in the dark because you do not if she is on the site. In your head, for whatever reason, you have just imagined she is not. I would say the same to you than I said to the other guys. Sugar dating is mainstream now. Try talking to normal women who are not hookers, and you can confirm what I just said for yourself. The only land that pristine valley of virgins exists is in your head.
    I'm assuming, and maybe I'm wrong, that if a girl is hot enough to work as a stripper, and is at shake shack, than she doesn't want to be in the sex industry. I assume they have some kind of moral compass that just wants to make an honest living as they say. The girl would be a top earner easily. I've seen some real pigs at strip clubs. Aren't most hookers or strippers molested or raped when younger.

  6. #6850
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Everyone knows where your "relationship" is headed. Well, I should say everyone but you and her. I think this horse has been beaten to death with you, SC, Mr. E and your "girlfriends". Say good luck to her from me. Not that you care, but she is going to be beating herself up for falling for your bullshit for years.
    Say Hello, to your "elite" girl from all your pals on the hooker board. I am sure she will not mind as long as you keep the money rolling in. Seems it was something her friend realized too late.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    My gal has an older, attractive friend. She has three kids, found out her husband was cheating on her, and she cut him off right then and raised the kids on her own. That is a strong woman. The women you are going out with are weak.
    No. That is a dumb woman. I tell these women not to let their pride get in the way. You have to be a damn fool to let someone go who is taking care of you just because they fucked someone else. Having these bills get paid and he fucks someone else every now and then or having to pay all these bills myself and he still fucks someone else. I am sure she realized that later.

  7. #6849
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, and fucking hookers on the side when you have a "girlfriend" is normal.
    Just as normal as a DUMMY coming on a hooker board everyday when he has an "elite" girlfriend. She must not be too elite since he can not stay away from this board.-

  8. #6848
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    At least that wouldn't be cheating, if both parties agree to fucking on the side. But in any normal relationship one partner would go nuts if they find out the other partner is cheating.
    Do you decide what is normal?

    Is your behavior of fucking prostitutes normal? Would you detail your exploits to family and friends during the time you spend with them?

    If you cannot not, then maybe you should reexamine your position. No, actually you do not as it is your just your opinion.

  9. #6847
    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    So would it also be "NOT acceptable" if they are in an open relationship? I know plenty of of couples who call their significant partner husband / wife / girlfriend / boyfriend and fuck others on the side.

    Hope you are not advocating for Mr. E or JJBee to wear the Scarlet Letter when they go out in public.

    I believe that a grown person telling another grown person how to conduct themselves through your personal lense is NOT acceptable.
    This post is a stand at the plate and watch, walk off home run Mr. CheckMate.

    People are allowed to have their own opinions but not their own facts.

  10. #6846
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    Is there any relationship that is real? friendship?
    When you have a narcissist, the only people they are capable of loving is themselves. It is pretty obvious who those guys are.

    What is amazing is you even have pimps talking about love and a form of fidelity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbndAaZjRzg

    It shows you how fucked up some of the guys here really are.

  11. #6845
    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    So would it also be "NOT acceptable" if they are in an open relationship? I know plenty of of couples who call their significant partner husband / wife / girlfriend / boyfriend and fuck others on the side.
    And why would you call someone in an open relationship a GF or BF versus a fuck buddy? It sounds like you are deluding themselves into taking their relationship more seriously than it is. I do not think it is acceptable to use a term like BF or GF which implies exclusivity. Use fuck buddy or another term. Open marriage is honest.

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Hope you are not advocating for Mr. E or JJBee to wear the Scarlet Letter when they go out in public.

    I believe that a grown person telling another grown person how to conduct themselves through your personal lense is NOT acceptable.
    Is it appropriate for you to call some hooker you just paid 50 k COP a GF? Do what you want, but your credibility is shit if you do that.

  12. #6844
    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    So would it also be "NOT acceptable" if they are in an open relationship? I know plenty of of couples who call their significant partner husband / wife / girlfriend / boyfriend and fuck others on the side.

    Hope you are not advocating for Mr. E or JJBee to wear the Scarlet Letter when they go out in public.

    I believe that a grown person telling another grown person how to conduct themselves through your personal lense is NOT acceptable.
    At least that wouldn't be cheating, if both parties agree to fucking on the side. But in any normal relationship one partner would go nuts if they find out the other partner is cheating.

  13. #6843
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Your last sentence is absolutely correct....
    Is there any relationship that is real? friendship?

  14. #6842
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Now, what is NOT acceptable is calling someone a girlfriend and fucking others on the side. This is called cheating.
    Damn Dummy #2. You act like you are in the relationship with the people and you get to define how they want to run it. Once again you are throwing out words in an attempt to shame. "This is called cheating. " LOL. You MEANT that. How is it that a hoarmonger like you is even allowed to do such a thing (try to shame others)? You are about to blow a lid over there trying to tell people how their relationships should be run.

    So what if it is called cheating? How does that affect you? Maybe some people have a tolerance for cheating. Maybe it is not cheating to them. Maybe they don't give a fuck one way or the other. Glad to see someone (you) cares though. I guess.

    I guess Adam 22's wife is not his wife since they both fuck other people. And according to Dummy #1, if his daughter went out with a guy like him then he would have a heart attack. Some people realize their kids are grown and have the freedom to do as they please, while others do not even realize that complete strangers are grown and try to shame them out of the things they choose to do.

  15. #6841

    Moral Policing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Now, what is NOT acceptable is calling someone a girlfriend and fucking others on the side. This is called cheating..
    So would it also be "NOT acceptable" if they are in an open relationship? I know plenty of of couples who call their significant partner husband / wife / girlfriend / boyfriend and fuck others on the side.

    Hope you are not advocating for Mr. E or JJBee to wear the Scarlet Letter when they go out in public.

    I believe that a grown person telling another grown person how to conduct themselves through your personal lense is NOT acceptable.

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