Stupid shit in Medellin

[LatinaLover#1]

Chavez / Maduro are / were not just leftist, they are communist and nationalized the oil industry, etc. I doubt that the US would do anything if it is merely a leftist government elected. Lots of places have that and are not sanctioned, etc.

This guy is very dangerous, he is very active in the poor and uneducated barrios selling his free this and free that bullshit. And blaming the educated elite of Colombia for everything. Just say the "Squad".

Just say Biden and the left here and you see the damage they are capable of doing. At least here there is some controlling the left in Colombia they will have free reign.

If they lose look out, they will not go quietly, the protest and violence will be out of control.

"The goal of socialism is communism. ".

Vladimir Lenin.

[NorthernLight]

No they won't. The US doesn't care who wins. Now if whoever wins threatens US Corporate income, then expect sanctions.

I agree. Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Venezuela are all running by leftist parties. Brazil will likely elect Lula again. Only Venezuela is sanctioned by US.

[Mr Enternational]

Yes, I agree that there's a difference between miss and desire. I don't think I used the word "miss" though and if I did I made an error in semantics. To paraphrase what another boardmemeber said, you can't know what is in the mind of another person. He said it better though. Ultimately we can't know what another person is thinking and in this instance we really don't need to, it's their decision.

Definitely their decision. But it is probably safe to reason that the guy is thinking his life would be much better if he gets tits and chops his dick off, and a woman is thinking her life would be much better if she chops her boobs off and get a dick built. But that is probably very far from the truth. It is like the saying that money does not change people, it just magnifies who they already are.

Well getting sexual reassignment will not change a person, and I think they find that out once they have the surgery. They are the same person except they have done surgeries. I think that is why there is a high suicide rate among that group. They were expecting to be something they never were or could have been in the first place and were extremely disappointed after going through all that BS to find there was no magic at the end of the process. They are still that dude that is not a chick or that chick that is not a dude.

[DontSayMuch]

To desire and to miss something are two different things. There is a saying that goes be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. Sometimes people wish for or desire things and they have absolutely no idea what it entails or what would be the responsibilities that go along with that which they are wishing for.

How many times have you said if I had that girl then I would be on my P.S. And qs and do everything right for the rest of my life. Then you get that girl and you fuck it up or she is not what you expected? After the fact you realize you desired something in your life that you really did not need or want after all. Sure you can desire what you never had, but you certainly can not miss it. In order to miss something you have to had experienced it before.

Yes, I agree that there's a difference between miss and desire. I don't think I used the word "miss" though and if I did I made an error in semantics. To paraphrase what another boardmemeber said, you can't know what is in the mind of another person. He said it better though. Ultimately we can't know what another person is thinking and in this instance we really don't need to, it's their decision.

Just like how some women get huge implants in their boobs or butt. I think it's crazy and a dumb decision, but it's their decision to make. And to continue that train of thought, some of the really extreme body modifications I'm not too pleased share a bathroom with my 7 year old daughter. That's the price we pay for a free society though.

[JjBee62]

If the leftist guy wins then the US will sanction Colombia as they did Venezuela and you may have an increase in the P4P industry here. More and more girls would seek to please gringos for pesos.

No they won't. The US doesn't care who wins. Now if whoever wins threatens US Corporate income, then expect sanctions.

[GringoTigre]

Got to love the US state department. They sent out an alert about the election with some common sense info about avoiding demonstrations. And specifically calling out that there are no booze sales Sat 4 pm to Mon 12 pm. Thanks Uncle Sam! Helping us avoid getting hurt by someone else while helping us make sure we can hurt ourselves.

Not just US state departments. It's pretty much standard practice for most embassies, major foregn employers, NGOs. A few major NGOs forbid their in country employees to travel outside of major cities +/- 3 days of both election dates. Which is pretty stupid advice because it's far more likely there will be violence in cities than remote areas.

In cities, just chill in the bubble of security areas (northern chapinero, some of usaquen). Not a good time to go to candelaria.

Also, I disagree that if Petro wins there will be a larger chance of violence. I think actually there will be MORE violence if he doesn't.

[JackTaggart]

Watch out for post election violence. There have been threats against the leftist guy who was currently leading the polls. I guess it's both candidates are put up by the same people to give the illusion of choice but who knows.

Got to love the US state department. They sent out an alert about the election with some common sense info about avoiding demonstrations. And specifically calling out that there are no booze sales Sat 4 pm to Mon 12 pm. Thanks Uncle Sam! Helping us avoid getting hurt by someone else while helping us make sure we can hurt ourselves.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. If you never traveled and yet wanted to see the world you would want it. Same thing with being a slave all your life, you'd want freedom even if you've never had it. You can desire something you've never had.

To desire and to miss something are two different things. There is a saying that goes be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. Sometimes people wish for or desire things and they have absolutely no idea what it entails or what would be the responsibilities that go along with that which they are wishing for.

How many times have you said if I had that girl then I would be on my P.S. And qs and do everything right for the rest of my life. Then you get that girl and you fuck it up or she is not what you expected? After the fact you realize you desired something in your life that you really did not need or want after all. Sure you can desire what you never had, but you certainly can not miss it. In order to miss something you have to had experienced it before.

[Kafka]

Watch out for post election violence. There have been threats against the leftist guy who was currently leading the polls. I guess it's both candidates are put up by the same people to give the illusion of choice but who knows.

[Osteoknot]

I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. If you never traveled and yet wanted to see the world you would want it. Same thing with being a slave all your life, you'd want freedom even if you've never had it. You can desire something you've never had.

I think there is more to my perception of being a man than the social constructs around masculinity. I wear men's clothing because I feel part of a group that wears men's clothing. I think the same thing happens with trans-men. They feel like they are part of that group and don't have a body that matches their belief of who they are.

In the end I don't want to tell trans people what they can / can't do, either by government enacting laws or even voicing disapproval. If someone wants to undergo radical surgery that's fine with me. You can swing your fist as long as you don't impact another.

Where there's some gray area for me is sports and medical procedures done on minors.

There isn't any gray area for me on what facilities a trans-person chooses to use or what they do with themselves or other consenting adults.

Some of the stuff they are doing to young children before they are even psychologically developed is a travesty. Save all that shit until they are least 18 yo, and not because of some misguided, warped perception by parents with possible secondary agendas.

[DontSayMuch]

This makes no sense at all. It is like you can't miss what you never had. How would you know what it feels like to be a man if you have never been a man? You can only assume you feel like what a man feels like. Can someone actually describe what it feels like to be a man and someone says yes that is how I feel? I doubt it. Being a man or woman is one of those things that just is.

And what if social constructs like clothing were reversed? If women traditionally wore pants and men wore dresses and if makeup was not a thing? Or if men traditionally wore long hair and women wore short hair? Or everybody wore the same type clothing? Would those men that say they feel like women be in pants without makeup and with short hair? There would be no disguising the outside then and less unwitting people would mistake them for the opposite sex they were born as.

I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. If you never traveled and yet wanted to see the world you would want it. Same thing with being a slave all your life, you'd want freedom even if you've never had it. You can desire something you've never had.

I think there is more to my perception of being a man than the social constructs around masculinity. I wear men's clothing because I feel part of a group that wears men's clothing. I think the same thing happens with trans-men. They feel like they are part of that group and don't have a body that matches their belief of who they are.

In the end I don't want to tell trans people what they can / can't do, either by government enacting laws or even voicing disapproval. If someone wants to undergo radical surgery that's fine with me. You can swing your fist as long as you don't impact another.

Where there's some gray area for me is sports and medical procedures done on minors.

There isn't any gray area for me on what facilities a trans-person chooses to use or what they do with themselves or other consenting adults.

[DontSayMuch]

I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/m...lloplasty.html

Just because these things were taken out of the DSM doesn't mean they still don't belong there!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/m...lloplasty.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/m...lloplasty.html

I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying
to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!!

This is baffling stupid. Why would you care why or where someone goes on vacation?

I thought ISG was for people planning on mongering internationally, and this specific forum for people who wanted to discuss stupid shit.

[Woodman09]

Welcome to the 21st century.

Yeah, he is MeenieWeenie PaTreeArKeeeee. #WaaahhHHhhhhhhhh.

[JustTK]

So I'm a normal every day guy which I recently found out means I am a "CIS male" or some such nonsense. '.

Welcome to the 21st century.

[JustTK]

That is exactly my point. So how can they feel like a man inside (or have the brain of a man as DSM put it) but have the body of a female, or vice versa?

The point is that their feeling is just as valid as mine or yours when we say we feel like a man. None of it can be really validated.