Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

Sorry I misspelled the word "cite" I'll try to proof-read better.

Anyways what most likely happened is that your "friend" lied to you so you would feel sorry and provide her with the coats, blankets, pillows, pijamas, etc.

She was just getting more papaya out of you even in the USA.

You're just another simp JJ might as well have "papaya" written on your forehead.

You continue to dive into unknown waters. "Site" wasn't a mistake. You didn't realize "cite" and "site" are different words. It's common. "What most likely happened" is what we used to call a "WAG", a Wild Ass Guess. You have absolutely no idea what happened. To begin with, you failed to recognize the difference between "friend" and "friends", or to notice that "3" is different than "1. " "They", versus "her" or "she", just blatant statements which you completely missed.

Nounce is partially correct. I currently have 3 housekeepers. I've washed dishes once in almost 5 months. Zero laundry, zero cleaning, zero taking out the trash and almost zero cooking, are a few of the benefits. My sustenance cost (food, whether bought or prepared at home, necessary groceries, cleaning supplies, hygiene supplies, etc, has gone from about $900 per month to about $100 per month. Gas for the car is down from $250 per month to $50 per month. Plus they pay me $300 month for their phone bills and utilities. My entertainment expenses have gone up a little, since I enjoy taking everyone out a few times per month. Plus there are certain other benefits to having the company.

No lies involved. As I stated, all 3 didn't arrive by the same path. Why would 2 of them lie to me about needing plane tickets, if they already had free plane tickets? Why would the mother of 1 reimburse me for the tickets? Did she lie about the money she placed in my hand on my last short visit? I guess she was lying about the apartment she let me stay in free of charge, and the meals she bought or cooked for me.

Did my friends lie about the temperature being 26°F on the night they arrived? How did they get all the thermometers to lie as well?

These might be concepts unfamiliar to you, perhaps a failure by your parents. If someone will be a guest in my home, whether a Medellin hooker visiting my apartment, or friends living at my place while getting their lives in order, I provide a comfortable, safe environment. This is called "hospitality. ".

My friends, from Medellin, after traveling across Mexico, were arriving into frigid weather, with only the clothes on their backs. Between hospitality and being a decent human being, some assistance on my part was warranted. I could have gone to Goodwill and saved $200. Instead, I bought reasonably priced, new coats, clothes and pajamas, socks and underwear as well. I bought new toothbrushes and made sure they had the things necessary to be comfortable.

If by "simp" you mean that I treat others as human beings you are correct. Over the years, I've noticed the people who use that term are almost always incapable of interacting with women on a personal level. They are limited to prostitutes and often only the lowest classes of prostitutes. They can't handle a sexual situation where an actual conversation might be necessary.

Me? I can afford to buy a couple of $50 coats. I can carry on a conversation for months with a girl until she invites me into her bed. I can sit with a woman until 4 am talking, even when sex isn't on the menu or, if I prefer, I can change the menu. And when it's time to move on to another girl, I can kiss one goodbye thank her for the memories and walk away smiling.

I'll close with some debate / discussion / conversation tips.

1. Stick with things you know and understand. For example, "free airline tickets. " That was a stunt pulled off by the Governor of Texas, a Republican. It had nothing to do with Biden, the US government or the Democrats. It is not a blanket policy.

2. Avoid things you believe, unless that's a topic of conversation. What you believe has no value in any debate or discussion.

3. If you link something, read it first and keep reading until you fully grasp it. For example, the free hotel rooms. The City of New York has been receiving lots of immigrants. Thousands of people arriving with no place to live causes problems, particularly when children are involved. The city of New York chooses to spend some of their money to provide temporary housing. Once again, this has nothing to do with the US government, or Biden. Having dead, frozen children on the street is bad for business. It's more cost effective to utilize cheap, unused hotel rooms. The hotels benefit.

Sticking with number 3, I'll move to the free debit cards. Once again, this is a NYC program, not Biden, not the US government. Instead of providing free meals, which leafs to a lot of wasted food and money, the city has started issuing debit cards pre-loaded with up to $350, reloadable weekly. It's a cheaper, more effective way to feed those who aren't yet able to feed themselves.

That's enough.

[Nounce]

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She was just getting more papaya out of you even in the USA.

You're just another simp JJ might as well have "papaya" written on your forehead.

I think he probably got a free maid, cook, and maybe sex too. All this delivered to his home without being in Colombia. If that is the case, I want that too. LOL

Is it possible that you two are both right?

[Gabacho]

The "hotel" provided to my friends was a makeshift detention center, no showers, I assume a portapotty. It sounded unpleasant. No airline ticket, no free money. In fact, they had to provide proof of an airline ticket, which I bought, before they could buy bus tickets to the airport.

They didn't receive money to replace the things thrown away, although when I met them at the airport, the United Government of Me handed them warm coats and provided them warm blankets, pillows, pajamas, towels and toothbrushes, along with new socks and underwear. They've paid me back at least 4 times.

Sorry I misspelled the word "cite" I'll try to proof-read better.

Anyways what most likely happened is that your "friend" lied to you so you would feel sorry and provide her with the coats, blankets, pillows, pijamas, etc.

She was just getting more papaya out of you even in the USA.

You're just another simp JJ might as well have "papaya" written on your forehead.

[JjBee62]

Looks like Mr E is calling your bluff Flying JJ with real expert testimony and screen shots to back it up.

Also my post with the links to the articles finally came through so you can see I'm not just talking out of my ass like you do.

Care to site some sources Mr Flying Fucking JJ?

And separation of the children from the parents was a policy implemented during the first Trump administration. It was a policy that helped to deter illegal immigrants from making the journey to the US because they were afraid of what would happen when they got there.

If you look at the number of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border between 2017 and 2021 it was alot less than the number of illegal immigrants crossing the border 2021 - 2024

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/11/09/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

"Site some sources", or Cite some sources? I have no idea how to do the first.

You have by now figured out that the proof you "cited" has no connection to what you think is going on. Yes?

My sources are much simpler. They are literally sitting close enough that I could reach out and touch them. I've touched all 3 of them, although not all 3 took the same route to arrive at my home.

Mr. E isn't calling my bluff and the screen shots are of him conversing with the girl, not of any proof of airline tickets, or who provided those things to 1 person. Were they provided by the US Government? Texas Government? A non-profit group?

The "hotel" provided to my friends was a makeshift detention center, no showers, I assume a portapotty. It sounded unpleasant. No airline ticket, no free money. In fact, they had to provide proof of an airline ticket, which I bought, before they could buy bus tickets to the airport.

They didn't receive money to replace the things thrown away, although when I met them at the airport, the United Government of Me handed them warm coats and provided them warm blankets, pillows, pajamas, towels and toothbrushes, along with new socks and underwear. They've paid me back at least 4 times.

[Sangnyc21]

When you say handouts you make it seem like it is something in perpetuity. It is not. It is more akin to what they give ex-convicts when they are released from prison. My girl from Ecuador is a migrant. When they get processed EVERYTHING is taken from them. They even took the wallet she kept her passport in. Her passport, money, and ATM card were the only things she arrived with that she was allowed to keep.

Yes they gave her a hotel to stay in for 2 days until her flight. Yes they gave her a one-way plane ticket from Texas to San Diego. Yes they have her a shitty cell phone to replace the good one they took. (Not even 1 week in the country she went to T-mobile and bought a $99 cell phone that was 8 times better.) Yes they gave her $200 to replace her clothes that they took. And that was that. It is not like she can go back tomorrow and tell the US government that she needs money for food. After that they are on their own. Now if one of those sanctuary cities takes it upon themselves to do something beyond that then I do not know. That is not her case, because she stayed with her sister's brother in law a couple of days, then came to stay with me 10 days, then went to stay with her cousins in Chicago. Now she is going to Michigan to help build houses because work in Chicago has dried up. But no, there is nobody she can go to for any regular handouts.

Chicago and NyC just handed out billions to illegals migrants. This is why Dems are losing the black vote. Chicago is giving 9 k rental assistance to migrants and NYC is giving 2000 $ debit cards. Whoever this girl is needs to pay attention and go get the $$.

[Gabacho]

Looks like Mr E is calling your bluff Flying JJ with real expert testimony and screen shots to back it up.

Also my post with the links to the articles finally came through so you can see I'm not just talking out of my ass like you do.

Care to site some sources Mr Flying Fucking JJ?

And separation of the children from the parents was a policy implemented during the first Trump administration. It was a policy that helped to deter illegal immigrants from making the journey to the US because they were afraid of what would happen when they got there.

If you look at the number of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border between 2017 and 2021 it was alot less than the number of illegal immigrants crossing the border 2021 - 2024

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/11/09/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

[Gabacho]

When you say handouts you make it seem like it is something in perpetuity. It is not. It is more akin to what they give ex-convicts when they are released from prison. My girl from Ecuador is a migrant. When they get processed EVERYTHING is taken from them. They even took the wallet she kept her passport in. Her passport, money, and ATM card were the only things she arrived with that she was allowed to keep.

Yes they gave her a hotel to stay in for 2 days until her flight. Yes they gave her a one-way plane ticket from Texas to San Diego. Yes they have her a shitty cell phone to replace the good one they took. (Not even 1 week in the country she went to T-mobile and bought a $99 cell phone that was 8 times better.) Yes they gave her $200 to replace her clothes that they took. And that was that. It is not like she can go back tomorrow and tell the US government that she needs money for food. After that they are on their own. Now if one of those sanctuary cities takes it upon themselves to do something beyond that then I do not know. That is not her case, because she stayed with her sister's brother in law a couple of days, then came to stay with me 10 days, then went to stay with her cousins in Chicago. Now she is going to Michigan to help build houses because work in Chicago has dried up. But no, there is nobody she can go to for any regular handouts.

My whole point was that dude Eyvin Hernández illegally entered Venezuela and got detained for 2 years until he was traded for Alex Saab, but the Venezuelans that enter illegally into the US get free hotel stays, plane tickets, cell phones, and money. It may not be much, and it may not be perpetual, but it is a hell of a lot more than what Eyvin Hernndez received.

[Mr Enternational]

I replied to your post in the other section showing proof of the handouts including the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC and Texas paying for plane tickets.

It's not non existent. Plus I know several more than several really Venezuelans who have told me of the hand outs they've gotten upon arrival to the US including the hotels and free cell phones.

So believe what you want to, you talk alot but you show no sources to back up your claims. I actually showed some news articles backing up what I was saying if you go look at the other post in the general info section.

When you say handouts you make it seem like it is something in perpetuity. It is not. It is more akin to what they give ex-convicts when they are released from prison. My girl from Ecuador is a migrant. When they get processed EVERYTHING is taken from them. They even took the wallet she kept her passport in. Her passport, money, and ATM card were the only things she arrived with that she was allowed to keep.

Yes they gave her a hotel to stay in for 2 days until her flight. Yes they gave her a one-way plane ticket from Texas to San Diego. Yes they have her a shitty cell phone to replace the good one they took. (Not even 1 week in the country she went to T-mobile and bought a $99 cell phone that was 8 times better.) Yes they gave her $200 to replace her clothes that they took. And that was that. It is not like she can go back tomorrow and tell the US government that she needs money for food. After that they are on their own. Now if one of those sanctuary cities takes it upon themselves to do something beyond that then I do not know. That is not her case, because she stayed with her sister's brother in law a couple of days, then came to stay with me 10 days, then went to stay with her cousins in Chicago. Now she is going to Michigan to help build houses because work in Chicago has dried up. But no, there is nobody she can go to for any regular handouts.

[Gabacho]

I replied to your post in the other section showing proof of the handouts including the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC and Texas paying for plane tickets.

It's not non existent. Plus I know several more than several really Venezuelans who have told me of the hand outs they've gotten upon arrival to the US including the hotels and free cell phones.

So believe what you want to, you talk alot but you show no sources to back up your claims. I actually showed some news articles backing up what I was saying if you go look at the other post in the general info section.

Apparently the moderators are deleting my posts again bcuz the other post in the general section with the links never showed up.

Free hotels and housing:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/n...hotel-aoc.html

Free flights:

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12...abbott-busing/#text=Texas%20 flew%20 out%20 over%20120,according%20 to%20 the%20 governor's%20 office.

Prepaid debit cards:

https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/pol...ld-happen-soon

So as you can see, these handouts are not non-existent as you claimed they were. Also whether they are provided by the federal government, state government, local government or private charities is irrelevant, I never said who gave them these handouts, I said they illegal enter the US and then they get handouts.

So are you going to say these articles are lying?

[Gabacho]

For more on the handouts see my post in the general thread.

Separating children from their parents is a moral abomination. Not only is it torture for the parents, it causes irreparable damage to the children and exposes them to all types of risks. Children are placed in a situation where they can be abused by almost anyone with very little risk of reprisal. It was a system without accountability. If the US government started separating parents from their children if the parents were suspected of committing tax evasion or other administrative crimes you would be screaming about the injustice. Are Venezuelans, Colombians, Salvadorans, etc less than human?

Of course the real issue with those policies was the cost. The US government detaining people for weeks and months at costs up to $750 per day, per person, in conditions which cost only a few dollars per day is a much greater cost than the non-existent handouts which you believe exist. It would have been much cheaper to put the whole family up in a Motel 6, and a week in a Motel 6 would be just as effective as a deterrent.

Entering another country and requesting asylum is not a crime. It's not something that can be deterred, except by improving the conditions in the other countries. When a parent is faced with the very real possibility their children will be murdered, or worse, they will run to the only chance of safety, the only source of hope. Anyone who has spent sufficient time in Colombia should be well aware of the risks faced by the people every day. If you know any Colombians you almost certainly know a Colombian who has been robbed at knife point or gunpoint. If you know enough you know people who have lost children or siblings to the violence. The forums are full of posts warning about the dangers to gringos, but they are miniscule compared to what the typical Colombian faces every day.

I support no politicians. In an election between almost anyone and Trump my vote will go against Trump. His presidency was a disaster. Growth of the national debt dwarfed any period in the past. The response to Covid was an absolute shitshow. Our reputation with our allies was weakened. The leaders of our closest allies were literally laughing at the incompetence. I understand you feel differently, and that is your right. Faced with the choice between eating liver, which I can't stand, and shit, give me the liver.

However, questions of morality, are not answered by which political party a person supports. Responding with "you must be a (fill in the blank)" shows an inability to support the position you've taken.

Oh and one more thing Flying JJ.

You must be a Biden Supporter / AOC / Pelosi Supporter huh?

You probably want to see a president kamala harris don't you?

[Gabacho]

For more on the handouts see my post in the general thread.

Separating children from their parents is a moral abomination. Not only is it torture for the parents, it causes irreparable damage to the children and exposes them to all types of risks. Children are placed in a situation where they can be abused by almost anyone with very little risk of reprisal. It was a system without accountability. If the US government started separating parents from their children if the parents were suspected of committing tax evasion or other administrative crimes you would be screaming about the injustice. Are Venezuelans, Colombians, Salvadorans, etc less than human?

Of course the real issue with those policies was the cost. The US government detaining people for weeks and months at costs up to $750 per day, per person, in conditions which cost only a few dollars per day is a much greater cost than the non-existent handouts which you believe exist. It would have been much cheaper to put the whole family up in a Motel 6, and a week in a Motel 6 would be just as effective as a deterrent.

Entering another country and requesting asylum is not a crime. It's not something that can be deterred, except by improving the conditions in the other countries. When a parent is faced with the very real possibility their children will be murdered, or worse, they will run to the only chance of safety, the only source of hope. Anyone who has spent sufficient time in Colombia should be well aware of the risks faced by the people every day. If you know any Colombians you almost certainly know a Colombian who has been robbed at knife point or gunpoint. If you know enough you know people who have lost children or siblings to the violence. The forums are full of posts warning about the dangers to gringos, but they are miniscule compared to what the typical Colombian faces every day.

I support no politicians. In an election between almost anyone and Trump my vote will go against Trump. His presidency was a disaster. Growth of the national debt dwarfed any period in the past. The response to Covid was an absolute shitshow. Our reputation with our allies was weakened. The leaders of our closest allies were literally laughing at the incompetence. I understand you feel differently, and that is your right. Faced with the choice between eating liver, which I can't stand, and shit, give me the liver.

However, questions of morality, are not answered by which political party a person supports. Responding with "you must be a (fill in the blank)" shows an inability to support the position you've taken.

I replied to your post in the other section showing proof of the handouts including the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC and Texas paying for plane tickets.

It's not non existent. Plus I know several more than several really Venezuelans who have told me of the hand outs they've gotten upon arrival to the US including the hotels and free cell phones.

So believe what you want to, you talk alot but you show no sources to back up your claims. I actually showed some news articles backing up what I was saying if you go look at the other post in the general info section.

[JjBee62]

Not quite sure what this guy was getting at. The reason to arrest illegal Venezuelan immigrants entering the US would not to be to ask the Venezuelan government for anything. It would be to deter more from coming.

Obviously if we keep letting them all in and giving them handouts and hotel rooms then more will keep coming. You start locking them up and separating them from their children like how Trump used to do in the past with illegal immigrants then you send a message that will deter more from coming.

For more on the handouts see my post in the general thread.

Separating children from their parents is a moral abomination. Not only is it torture for the parents, it causes irreparable damage to the children and exposes them to all types of risks. Children are placed in a situation where they can be abused by almost anyone with very little risk of reprisal. It was a system without accountability. If the US government started separating parents from their children if the parents were suspected of committing tax evasion or other administrative crimes you would be screaming about the injustice. Are Venezuelans, Colombians, Salvadorans, etc less than human?

Of course the real issue with those policies was the cost. The US government detaining people for weeks and months at costs up to $750 per day, per person, in conditions which cost only a few dollars per day is a much greater cost than the non-existent handouts which you believe exist. It would have been much cheaper to put the whole family up in a Motel 6, and a week in a Motel 6 would be just as effective as a deterrent.

Entering another country and requesting asylum is not a crime. It's not something that can be deterred, except by improving the conditions in the other countries. When a parent is faced with the very real possibility their children will be murdered, or worse, they will run to the only chance of safety, the only source of hope. Anyone who has spent sufficient time in Colombia should be well aware of the risks faced by the people every day. If you know any Colombians you almost certainly know a Colombian who has been robbed at knife point or gunpoint. If you know enough you know people who have lost children or siblings to the violence. The forums are full of posts warning about the dangers to gringos, but they are miniscule compared to what the typical Colombian faces every day.

I support no politicians. In an election between almost anyone and Trump my vote will go against Trump. His presidency was a disaster. Growth of the national debt dwarfed any period in the past. The response to Covid was an absolute shitshow. Our reputation with our allies was weakened. The leaders of our closest allies were literally laughing at the incompetence. I understand you feel differently, and that is your right. Faced with the choice between eating liver, which I can't stand, and shit, give me the liver.

However, questions of morality, are not answered by which political party a person supports. Responding with "you must be a (fill in the blank)" shows an inability to support the position you've taken.

[Gabacho]

Cutting people's hands off for jaywalking would be highly effective too.

Let me guess Biden Supporter?

[Flawless Zeal]

You start locking them up and separating them from their children like how Trump used to do in the past with illegal immigrants then you send a message that will deter more from coming.

Cutting people's hands off for jaywalking would be highly effective too.

[Gabacho]

Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense. The poor immigrants that cross into the USA the Venezuelan government is going to care about? WTF?

Not quite sure what this guy was getting at. The reason to arrest illegal Venezuelan immigrants entering the US would not to be to ask the Venezuelan government for anything. It would be to deter more from coming.

Obviously if we keep letting them all in and giving them handouts and hotel rooms then more will keep coming. You start locking them up and separating them from their children like how Trump used to do in the past with illegal immigrants then you send a message that will deter more from coming.