Stupid shit in Medellin

[Gabacho]

Looks like Mr E is calling your bluff Flying JJ with real expert testimony and screen shots to back it up.

Also my post with the links to the articles finally came through so you can see I'm not just talking out of my ass like you do.

Care to site some sources Mr Flying Fucking JJ?

And separation of the children from the parents was a policy implemented during the first Trump administration. It was a policy that helped to deter illegal immigrants from making the journey to the US because they were afraid of what would happen when they got there.

If you look at the number of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border between 2017 and 2021 it was alot less than the number of illegal immigrants crossing the border 2021 - 2024

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/11/09/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

[Gabacho]

When you say handouts you make it seem like it is something in perpetuity. It is not. It is more akin to what they give ex-convicts when they are released from prison. My girl from Ecuador is a migrant. When they get processed EVERYTHING is taken from them. They even took the wallet she kept her passport in. Her passport, money, and ATM card were the only things she arrived with that she was allowed to keep.

Yes they gave her a hotel to stay in for 2 days until her flight. Yes they gave her a one-way plane ticket from Texas to San Diego. Yes they have her a shitty cell phone to replace the good one they took. (Not even 1 week in the country she went to T-mobile and bought a $99 cell phone that was 8 times better.) Yes they gave her $200 to replace her clothes that they took. And that was that. It is not like she can go back tomorrow and tell the US government that she needs money for food. After that they are on their own. Now if one of those sanctuary cities takes it upon themselves to do something beyond that then I do not know. That is not her case, because she stayed with her sister's brother in law a couple of days, then came to stay with me 10 days, then went to stay with her cousins in Chicago. Now she is going to Michigan to help build houses because work in Chicago has dried up. But no, there is nobody she can go to for any regular handouts.

My whole point was that dude Eyvin Hernández illegally entered Venezuela and got detained for 2 years until he was traded for Alex Saab, but the Venezuelans that enter illegally into the US get free hotel stays, plane tickets, cell phones, and money. It may not be much, and it may not be perpetual, but it is a hell of a lot more than what Eyvin Hernndez received.

[Mr Enternational]

I replied to your post in the other section showing proof of the handouts including the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC and Texas paying for plane tickets.

It's not non existent. Plus I know several more than several really Venezuelans who have told me of the hand outs they've gotten upon arrival to the US including the hotels and free cell phones.

So believe what you want to, you talk alot but you show no sources to back up your claims. I actually showed some news articles backing up what I was saying if you go look at the other post in the general info section.

When you say handouts you make it seem like it is something in perpetuity. It is not. It is more akin to what they give ex-convicts when they are released from prison. My girl from Ecuador is a migrant. When they get processed EVERYTHING is taken from them. They even took the wallet she kept her passport in. Her passport, money, and ATM card were the only things she arrived with that she was allowed to keep.

Yes they gave her a hotel to stay in for 2 days until her flight. Yes they gave her a one-way plane ticket from Texas to San Diego. Yes they have her a shitty cell phone to replace the good one they took. (Not even 1 week in the country she went to T-mobile and bought a $99 cell phone that was 8 times better.) Yes they gave her $200 to replace her clothes that they took. And that was that. It is not like she can go back tomorrow and tell the US government that she needs money for food. After that they are on their own. Now if one of those sanctuary cities takes it upon themselves to do something beyond that then I do not know. That is not her case, because she stayed with her sister's brother in law a couple of days, then came to stay with me 10 days, then went to stay with her cousins in Chicago. Now she is going to Michigan to help build houses because work in Chicago has dried up. But no, there is nobody she can go to for any regular handouts.

[Gabacho]

I replied to your post in the other section showing proof of the handouts including the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC and Texas paying for plane tickets.

It's not non existent. Plus I know several more than several really Venezuelans who have told me of the hand outs they've gotten upon arrival to the US including the hotels and free cell phones.

So believe what you want to, you talk alot but you show no sources to back up your claims. I actually showed some news articles backing up what I was saying if you go look at the other post in the general info section.

Apparently the moderators are deleting my posts again bcuz the other post in the general section with the links never showed up.

Free hotels and housing:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/n...hotel-aoc.html

Free flights:

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12...abbott-busing/#text=Texas%20 flew%20 out%20 over%20120,according%20 to%20 the%20 governor's%20 office.

Prepaid debit cards:

https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/pol...ld-happen-soon

So as you can see, these handouts are not non-existent as you claimed they were. Also whether they are provided by the federal government, state government, local government or private charities is irrelevant, I never said who gave them these handouts, I said they illegal enter the US and then they get handouts.

So are you going to say these articles are lying?

[Gabacho]

For more on the handouts see my post in the general thread.

Separating children from their parents is a moral abomination. Not only is it torture for the parents, it causes irreparable damage to the children and exposes them to all types of risks. Children are placed in a situation where they can be abused by almost anyone with very little risk of reprisal. It was a system without accountability. If the US government started separating parents from their children if the parents were suspected of committing tax evasion or other administrative crimes you would be screaming about the injustice. Are Venezuelans, Colombians, Salvadorans, etc less than human?

Of course the real issue with those policies was the cost. The US government detaining people for weeks and months at costs up to $750 per day, per person, in conditions which cost only a few dollars per day is a much greater cost than the non-existent handouts which you believe exist. It would have been much cheaper to put the whole family up in a Motel 6, and a week in a Motel 6 would be just as effective as a deterrent.

Entering another country and requesting asylum is not a crime. It's not something that can be deterred, except by improving the conditions in the other countries. When a parent is faced with the very real possibility their children will be murdered, or worse, they will run to the only chance of safety, the only source of hope. Anyone who has spent sufficient time in Colombia should be well aware of the risks faced by the people every day. If you know any Colombians you almost certainly know a Colombian who has been robbed at knife point or gunpoint. If you know enough you know people who have lost children or siblings to the violence. The forums are full of posts warning about the dangers to gringos, but they are miniscule compared to what the typical Colombian faces every day.

I support no politicians. In an election between almost anyone and Trump my vote will go against Trump. His presidency was a disaster. Growth of the national debt dwarfed any period in the past. The response to Covid was an absolute shitshow. Our reputation with our allies was weakened. The leaders of our closest allies were literally laughing at the incompetence. I understand you feel differently, and that is your right. Faced with the choice between eating liver, which I can't stand, and shit, give me the liver.

However, questions of morality, are not answered by which political party a person supports. Responding with "you must be a (fill in the blank)" shows an inability to support the position you've taken.

Oh and one more thing Flying JJ.

You must be a Biden Supporter / AOC / Pelosi Supporter huh?

You probably want to see a president kamala harris don't you?

[Gabacho]

For more on the handouts see my post in the general thread.

Separating children from their parents is a moral abomination. Not only is it torture for the parents, it causes irreparable damage to the children and exposes them to all types of risks. Children are placed in a situation where they can be abused by almost anyone with very little risk of reprisal. It was a system without accountability. If the US government started separating parents from their children if the parents were suspected of committing tax evasion or other administrative crimes you would be screaming about the injustice. Are Venezuelans, Colombians, Salvadorans, etc less than human?

Of course the real issue with those policies was the cost. The US government detaining people for weeks and months at costs up to $750 per day, per person, in conditions which cost only a few dollars per day is a much greater cost than the non-existent handouts which you believe exist. It would have been much cheaper to put the whole family up in a Motel 6, and a week in a Motel 6 would be just as effective as a deterrent.

Entering another country and requesting asylum is not a crime. It's not something that can be deterred, except by improving the conditions in the other countries. When a parent is faced with the very real possibility their children will be murdered, or worse, they will run to the only chance of safety, the only source of hope. Anyone who has spent sufficient time in Colombia should be well aware of the risks faced by the people every day. If you know any Colombians you almost certainly know a Colombian who has been robbed at knife point or gunpoint. If you know enough you know people who have lost children or siblings to the violence. The forums are full of posts warning about the dangers to gringos, but they are miniscule compared to what the typical Colombian faces every day.

I support no politicians. In an election between almost anyone and Trump my vote will go against Trump. His presidency was a disaster. Growth of the national debt dwarfed any period in the past. The response to Covid was an absolute shitshow. Our reputation with our allies was weakened. The leaders of our closest allies were literally laughing at the incompetence. I understand you feel differently, and that is your right. Faced with the choice between eating liver, which I can't stand, and shit, give me the liver.

However, questions of morality, are not answered by which political party a person supports. Responding with "you must be a (fill in the blank)" shows an inability to support the position you've taken.

I replied to your post in the other section showing proof of the handouts including the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC and Texas paying for plane tickets.

It's not non existent. Plus I know several more than several really Venezuelans who have told me of the hand outs they've gotten upon arrival to the US including the hotels and free cell phones.

So believe what you want to, you talk alot but you show no sources to back up your claims. I actually showed some news articles backing up what I was saying if you go look at the other post in the general info section.

[JjBee62]

Not quite sure what this guy was getting at. The reason to arrest illegal Venezuelan immigrants entering the US would not to be to ask the Venezuelan government for anything. It would be to deter more from coming.

Obviously if we keep letting them all in and giving them handouts and hotel rooms then more will keep coming. You start locking them up and separating them from their children like how Trump used to do in the past with illegal immigrants then you send a message that will deter more from coming.

For more on the handouts see my post in the general thread.

Separating children from their parents is a moral abomination. Not only is it torture for the parents, it causes irreparable damage to the children and exposes them to all types of risks. Children are placed in a situation where they can be abused by almost anyone with very little risk of reprisal. It was a system without accountability. If the US government started separating parents from their children if the parents were suspected of committing tax evasion or other administrative crimes you would be screaming about the injustice. Are Venezuelans, Colombians, Salvadorans, etc less than human?

Of course the real issue with those policies was the cost. The US government detaining people for weeks and months at costs up to $750 per day, per person, in conditions which cost only a few dollars per day is a much greater cost than the non-existent handouts which you believe exist. It would have been much cheaper to put the whole family up in a Motel 6, and a week in a Motel 6 would be just as effective as a deterrent.

Entering another country and requesting asylum is not a crime. It's not something that can be deterred, except by improving the conditions in the other countries. When a parent is faced with the very real possibility their children will be murdered, or worse, they will run to the only chance of safety, the only source of hope. Anyone who has spent sufficient time in Colombia should be well aware of the risks faced by the people every day. If you know any Colombians you almost certainly know a Colombian who has been robbed at knife point or gunpoint. If you know enough you know people who have lost children or siblings to the violence. The forums are full of posts warning about the dangers to gringos, but they are miniscule compared to what the typical Colombian faces every day.

I support no politicians. In an election between almost anyone and Trump my vote will go against Trump. His presidency was a disaster. Growth of the national debt dwarfed any period in the past. The response to Covid was an absolute shitshow. Our reputation with our allies was weakened. The leaders of our closest allies were literally laughing at the incompetence. I understand you feel differently, and that is your right. Faced with the choice between eating liver, which I can't stand, and shit, give me the liver.

However, questions of morality, are not answered by which political party a person supports. Responding with "you must be a (fill in the blank)" shows an inability to support the position you've taken.

[Gabacho]

Cutting people's hands off for jaywalking would be highly effective too.

Let me guess Biden Supporter?

[Flawless Zeal]

You start locking them up and separating them from their children like how Trump used to do in the past with illegal immigrants then you send a message that will deter more from coming.

Cutting people's hands off for jaywalking would be highly effective too.

[Gabacho]

Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense. The poor immigrants that cross into the USA the Venezuelan government is going to care about? WTF?

Not quite sure what this guy was getting at. The reason to arrest illegal Venezuelan immigrants entering the US would not to be to ask the Venezuelan government for anything. It would be to deter more from coming.

Obviously if we keep letting them all in and giving them handouts and hotel rooms then more will keep coming. You start locking them up and separating them from their children like how Trump used to do in the past with illegal immigrants then you send a message that will deter more from coming.

[Bill]

Get a room already lovebirds! Lololol!

[Elvis 2008]

Needed you for what? To blow up some damn balloons for a party since you are so full of hot air? That must be a pretty sad broad for needing a mf to come from another country to blow up some balloons. You mean NOBODY that she knows in Colombia could handle the task? Not father, brother, uncle, cousin, aunt, mother, nor friend? Sad group her circle is. Unless she was just trying to boost your ego. Don't the dunnnn. This is a job for ELLLLLVIIISSSS.

If blowing up balloons were an issue, I would pay for some service to take care of that versus flying down. You are making up the balloon thing just like you are making up having a GF.

Meanwhile my ex-girlfriend did not even get to go to her daughter's party because they would not let her off work.

And you are off spending $900 a night in hotels, paying to fuck hookers, and flying all over the damned place spending money while your supposed GF is slaving away at work trying to make a buck and missing her daughter's birthday.

The party went just fine and life kept going on without having to call in a "hero" to come from a whole other country. Besides that, the kid's ACTUAL DAD traveled from Cartagena to Bogota to make sure everything went well.

And you are nowhere to be found. It is pretty pathetic that you do not know how to stop being a john.

[Mr Enternational]

My gal's daughter was due to have her Quincera, and my gal was a mess so much so that she had a stress related rash. She has invited a lifelong friend of hers and her daughter to come down and stay with her. Knowing my gal needed me, I looked over my schedule and I saw I could make time to see her. It is two days of traveling for just two days there, but I tell her I am coming, and she is thankful I can.

Needed you for what? To blow up some damn balloons for a party since you are so full of hot air? That must be a pretty sad broad for needing a mf to come from another country to blow up some balloons. You mean NOBODY that she knows in Colombia could handle the task? Not father, brother, uncle, cousin, aunt, mother, nor friend? Sad group her circle is. Unless she was just trying to boost your ego. Don't the dunnnn. This is a job for ELLLLLVIIISSSS.

Meanwhile my ex-girlfriend did not even get to go to her daughter's party because they would not let her off work. The party went just fine and life kept going on without having to call in a "hero" to come from a whole other country. Besides that, the kid's ACTUAL DAD traveled from Cartagena to Bogota to make sure everything went well.

[Elvis 2008]

On the basis of what? An age difference? He has already admitted that he does not give her money like that. Meanwhile another board member, Elvis, says there is a big age difference between him and his girl AND he pays all her bills. Yet he is touted for having an actual relationship instead of being a sugar daddy, because "when a man loves a woman he will support her".

When I was coming back for Colombia this last time, a guy was talking to his woman. He was a frantic mess talking to her about their relationship. 90% of communication is nonverbal and just from the tone of his voice and body movements, I could tell his relationship was in trouble. When a relationship is solid and real most people can see it.

My gal's daughter was due to have her Quincera, and my gal was a mess so much so that she had a stress related rash. She has invited a lifelong friend of hers and her daughter to come down and stay with her. Knowing my gal needed me, I looked over my schedule and I saw I could make time to see her. It is two days of traveling for just two days there, but I tell her I am coming, and she is thankful I can.

This friend has known my gal forever and she can tell in a second if we were real or not. I meet her friend and she tells me that she cannot believe how happy her friend was when she knew I was coming. Within a day, my gal's rash is gone. The friend's daughter takes to me. We start playing. When I leave, the friend's daughter gives me a huge hug. A mother is not going to let her daughter get close to some stranger, but the friend knows that I am now attached to her lifelong friend. I am going to be a part of their lives from here on out.

Not only can't you and JJBee get the friends of your "girlfriends" to believe in your relationship, you cannot get your fellow mongers to. And spare me with the lies the friends and family are buying in.

Men have this tendency to think they can handle things and so they think, "Oh, I can stay in a committed relationship and stay monogamous for life", and they do not get what a huge commitment that is. And women like to believe that fantasy too but talk to them long enough and they will admit that they know how men are.

Having a good sex life was so important to my happiness I did not care if I fit within society's conventions or engaged in illegal activity to satisfy my sexual needs. I kept running into women that would put out for 3 months to reel me in and then it was not a priority. I thought it was me but it was not. It was most women, but there were a very few women that like sex as much as men did and I observed that the guys with those women did not cheat.

JJBee is like my woman washes every dish. You can pay for that and for looks and for people to kiss your ass. Of all the things about my gal, it is her true burning desire for me that is the most valuable because it is the one thing you cannot buy. She will grab my dick and say, "That is my happiness. " Three years in, and she still loves sex and even more than I do. And the surest way to fuck that up and put an end to that burning desire is to go out and bang a bunch of other women.

So now you can get together and launch your insults and display your insecurities. The only reason you two losers brought up having a GF was out of envy. Thing is I know why you are really cheating on your GFs. It is the same reason I cheated on my wife. My sex life at home sucked and if my sex life was critical to my happiness, I was risking nothing by seeing other women.

You dummies are literally advertising the sex lives with your GFs are nothing special, and the real reason that you are fucking around on them is because you have nothing to lose.

[JjBee62]

You forgot to mention that you had been fucking hoes during those 2 years of playing a white knight role. Also, she was probably not of legal age when you first met her.

What you described looks like a sugar daddy. Sugar baby relationship, not a real BF. GF relationship.

I didn't mention it because it was not pertinent to my response. And I didn't play any role. I did what billions of men, throughout history have done when they were interested in women. I talked to her. I also didn't mention that I was talking with at least a dozen other girls at the same time, just normal girls, stuck on quarantine and bored. If you can carry a conversation that's more interesting than unbuttered toast, you can do the exact same thing. Bonus points if you can make jokes in Spanish.

There is no legal age to have a conversation with a girl. I had many conversations while she was still 17. We did not meet until 1 month after she turned 18. There's also no legal age to meet a girl.

Really? You haven't seen it, haven't seen me, haven't seen her but it "looks like a sugar daddy, sugar baby relationship?" In what way? Maybe I misunderstand what a SB / SD relationship is. I'll describe what I think it is and then you can compare.

A SB / SD relationship is where the girl is looking for financial support, in exchange for companionship, usually involving sex. Typically the girl lives in her own place and is visited by the guy who pays the bills. Frequently, the financial arrangements are discussed at first meeting and are clearly spelled out.

No financial arrangements were, or have ever been discussed. The first time we met she volunteered to pick me up at the airport. I was not asked to pay for gas or the toll. The next night I invited her and her sister to dinner. We continued to talk for months, no discussion of money. We went out, usually with her friends and her sister, did some sightseeing, normal friendly stuff. She drove, never asked for gas money. When her grandmother went for knee replacement surgery, no mention of money, although I was asked if I would pick her up at the hospital.

As I stated, when I had a reason, I sent her money. I spent money on her and with her. When we go places I'll buy her a souvenir. Of course now the situation has changed. For the past 4 months I haven't bought groceries or gas, I haven't cooked, cleaned or done laundry, and I'm eating at home every day. I haven't even been allowed to wash a single dish.

So let's compare. At this time she receives no money from me. She works and spends her money to buy gas and groceries. If that looks like a SB / SD relationship to you, you need to visit an optometrist.