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05-14-24 04:05 #7218
Posts: 3278Originally Posted by Villainy [View Original Post]
Look at this time stamp which was 2:14 mark. The doctor is Dr. Jay Bhattacharya from Stanford. He ran a study in April 2020 before the vaccine became available. In his study, death rate was 0. 2%. He was one of the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration. And the fucking assholes Fauci and Collins went after Bhattacharya and the original two doctors who wrote the GBD.
Originally Posted by Villainy [View Original Post]
The only place there was consensus was on MSNBC and that is because Democratic douche outlets censored any doctor who did not tow Fauci's line.
Maybe this time you will actually get the point of the video.
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05-13-24 22:46 #7217
Posts: 670Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
So, if JustTK ran the world we would have tested and retested and perfected the vaccine in a perfectly controlled environment and it would probably still be winding its way through the FDA approval process. How many people worldwide would have died in the meantime? For the first year the mortality rate was around 3% of those infected with CoVid. Once the vaccines were produced and distributed worldwide in volume, the death rate declined to less than 1%. Given close to 1 billion reported infections that would be a volume of deaths of 30 million (3%) versus less than 10 million (1%.
Now if you really think it is a cogent argument that the virus mutated (we know it did mutate but was it because the vaccine was stopping the original variant? Or that all the susceptible people had already died. Great, maybe some of the 20 million difference could be attributed to those factors and maybe some other factors as well. But the fact is that the death rate went from 3% down to less than 1%. The expert medical community is largely united in the opinion that the vaccines distributed played a large part in ameliorating the deadly effects of CoVid.
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05-13-24 22:21 #7216
Posts: 1109Great Points Dr
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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05-13-24 18:22 #7215
Posts: 3278Originally Posted by Huacho [View Original Post]
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05-13-24 17:55 #7214
Posts: 3278Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
One of the founders of the document was asked about the vaccine and said something to the effect that it was the best and worst thing that could have happened. It was an amazing development for those at risk with Covid and a tragedy for those at low risk for Covid death. That too is exactly right and it flies in the face of the moronic simplicity of pro and antivaxx.
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
Look at this headline from June 2021:
Acute Transverse Myelitis (ATM): An Unexpectedly Frequent Complication of COVID-19. The team's study of documented pandemic cases found that 43 involved ATM.
This was what was said about the vaccine. Although ATM is a sporadic neurological disorder associated with the COVID-19 pandemic globally, ATM following COVID-19 vaccination is rare.
Then from another paper, there was this. Surprisingly, as of 28th July 2021, there are 77 cases of transverse myelitis following Covid vaccine AZ in the MHRA database.
So 77 is extremely rate but 43 is unexpectedly frequent. It is that kind of bullshit that is maddening.
But ATM is an extreme neurological condition. Study 514559 showed that the Covid vaccine AZ was distributed to sciatic nerves, and the last sample was taken on 29 days post-administration and sciatic nerves of 70% of animals were still tested positive at the end of the study. The vaccine distribution to the sciatic nerves may lead to conditions like sciatica that has been previously linked to other conditions.
And it is these supposedly minor conditions like sciatica that probably added to the higher overall death rate in the vaccinated group. If you ask about muscle aches, nerve pain, or ringing in the ears, you would probably only have to ask three people before you found one that had one of these conditions, and the severity of those conditions vary widely.
And that too is part of the bullshit. I had a minor annoyance, my triceps ached for three days after the shot, but I talked to a Mexican woman with much more severe muscle aches so much so that she had trouble walking for a year after the vaccine and yet both of us would be placed as myalgia under side effects from the vaccine.
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05-13-24 14:35 #7213
Posts: 713Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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05-13-24 08:40 #7212
Posts: 5486Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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05-13-24 07:38 #7211
Posts: 1806Originally Posted by Villainy [View Original Post]
The stats were highly manipulated and none of the big organisations even looked at the most important stat. The elephant in the room, wihch was death from all causes. And even now, none of them like to look bcos it shows a huge surge in deaths over and above expected mortality, and there is no likely explanation that they want to hear the cause of. Terrible pandemic policies and medical science.
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05-13-24 02:00 #7210
Posts: 670Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
BUT when you look at the rate of CoVid among the population as a whole (not just the US but around the world) from first detection to the point where the vaccine was widely available and distributed. You see something that JjBee62 alluded to. The rate of CoVid infections dropped precipitously, and the recovery from CoVid increased noticeably. (I. E. The Death rate dropped). So while 1 individual case doesn't prove anything one way or the other, hundreds of millions of cases around the world show something statistically significant. And that is that the vaccine was effective in lowering the number of new infections and resulted in a much lower rate of CoVid deaths.
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05-13-24 01:39 #7209
Posts: 3278Originally Posted by Huacho [View Original Post]
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05-13-24 01:35 #7208
Posts: 3278Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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05-13-24 01:30 #7207
Posts: 3278Huacho, I owe you an apology
Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
First off, he gets the vaccine and comes down with Covid. Does he say no the vaccine does not work at all? Fuck no. He says it is only 95% effective, and I was one of the 5% the vaccine did not work on. Of course, it was not 95% effective and the cases surged to all time highs, and he still does not gripe about the vaccine and drug companies.
And he lists all these Covid symptoms, spreads Covid, and then claims not to have symptoms all while lecturing about Covid. And he is still lecturing about Covid and the vaccine.
So now there are the vaccine related side effects. I show the video of a woman who came down with a neurological side effect after getting the vaccine. Do you know who also came down with a neurological issue after being vaccinated? That would be the guy literally suffering from confirmation bias JJbee.
You cannot make this shit up.
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05-12-24 18:01 #7206
Posts: 15972Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
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05-12-24 16:26 #7205
Posts: 5486Originally Posted by Woodman09 [View Original Post]
Did you perform an autopsy on your friend? No. Were you present when an autopsy was performed on your friend? No?. Did the pathologist who performed the autopsy explain his findings to you? No? Was an autopsy even performed? Probably not.
You have 2 events: vaccination and death. Other than your opinion, you have nothing to connect those 2 events. Although highly unlikely, your friend could have died as a result of the vaccination. However, that says nothing about the vaccines. Even if it was confirmed as the cause of death that's 1 person. Every day you encounter many people who have received the vaccine, probably 1,000 people every week (people in clubs, people on the streets of Santa Fe, working girls, store clerks, guys you take on tours). After 3 years of vaccination, that's around 150,000 people who didn't die from the vaccine (that you are peripherally aware of) versus 1 who died, without any evidence the vaccine had anything to do with it.
Yet, you ignore 150 k and point to the 1, with nothing to back it up other than a biased opinion. That is confirmation bias.
None of the above says anything about the safety or effectiveness of any of the vaccines. Every vaccine used in millions or billions of people will cause some deaths and some health issues. If you give a billion people a cup of coffee, some will be burned, some will choke, some might die. Same thing if you give 1 billion blowjobs.
The question to be answered is did the vaccine (coffee or blowjob) help more people than it hurt? And until you deal with your confirmation bias, you'll never be able to answer that question, or even hear any answers to that question.
Unfortunately, people almost never give up their confirmation bias. Instead, they cling tighter to it, wandering ever farther away from knowledge in search of anyone who supports their paranoia.
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05-12-24 11:49 #7204
Posts: 1806Originally Posted by Huacho [View Original Post]