Stupid shit in Medellin

[Osteoknot]

I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.

I love in the last foto how she has that slight "dent" in middle of the crack of her ass, sure tail (pun intended) sign will take a trip down the Hershey Highway, jeje.

[Villainy]

I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.

[Elvis 2008]

Because you paid $6 for a gallon of unleaded by the airport in Los Angeles you are acting like a mf passing through Bessemer, Alabama can not get the same gallon of gas at a station for $3.30.

WTF are you talking about? I can look on line and see what prices are with gasoline and with women.

You assume the only road to Rome is the one you are driving on and someone saying they arrived by any other road is full of shit.

No, you are full of shit because you have not showed anyone any road, and I am here, and you are not.

I can show you countless women on line and their prices. Tell me the ones who are charging nothing or how about even more than that, how about a whole $5 an hour? Can you do that?

If you cannot do that, and I know you cannot, then you are full of shit.

[JjBee62]

The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.

The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations..

This brings to mind a few things.

1. When I was always going to strip clubs, I learned the difference between what you see and what is really there. All the makeup and the lighting, plus the atmosphere makes every girl look better.

2. Again from my titty bar days, I looked for the positive in every dancer. She's fat, but she's a great dancer. Her face is nothing special, but her pole work is amazing. Every woman has her flaws, but also her strong points.

3. While working with a friend, mostly driving downtown making deliveries, he kept pointing out women. Each time it was a woman with a nice ass. At the end of the day I saw a woman with by far the best backside we had seen all day, and she had a great body and face. I pointed her out to him and he was disgusted. He wondered how I could ever think someone like that was attractive. It took a moment before I understood. She was black, he was racist.

If I'm discussing a particular woman with someone, instead of saying she's a number, I simply show a picture. He then responds with what he does or doesn't like.

One last bit. I'm a real, reasonably normal man. That means what I think looks best today may not be what I want tomorrow. I can't imagine going through life and only being attracted to one specific set of attributes.

[Elvis 2008]

Even if I was sending a chick money for any reason, I would have a key to her place. I am not helping out on bills at a place I do not have a key to and can not pop up anytime I damn well please.

LOL. You think I do not have a key?

Funny how this woman is so great that no other suitors and their money were good enough for her. Only Elvis and his magic $500 per month held the key to her heart. What is your secret? What did you do to crack this nut that everyone else did not?

Yawn. I did not pay $500 a month until we went out for six months but keep calling her a ho; that is what you guys do.

You guys who live abroad have no sense of how things are here. $500 is what you pay a well reviewed 8 in the USA for an hour. If you think that is a lot of money, you are not a player at all.

See a player like myself would have said okay go ahead and take the job and we will see how things work out. There would probably end up not even being a job at that point. Something would have happened and the offer would have fell through. And if it really was a real job offer, she could have always quit later with you then deciding to pay the rent if you had not continued to see each other to your satisfaction. But you put the cart before the damn horse. You need to stay 3 steps ahead of these women instead of running behind them playing catch up.

That is what I mean. When you go after average women and you lose one, it is no big deal. You go all through all this bullshit about stupid women and women asking for marriage and standing you up and then say I got played by a 10 for $500 a month. That amount means very little to me. What do you do Mr. E and how much do you make an hour and how much do you think I make?

You have no clue what the market is in the USA and what the high end market is in Colombia. You are equating your average women with a 10.

Funny thing is the ex-fiance all you douches said was average looking just found a guy to spend $30,000 on plastic surgery on her. That is not a surprise to me. She was the prettiest girl I saw in Peru, and my current gal is even more striking.

You are completely content with your average looking women so just keep on keepin' on.

But just to be clear, I do not think you are a player. You are a bullshit artist trying to equate your 5's with my 10. You think you are so fucking smart and have the game all figured out, but I am not interested in the game you are playing and the guys I hang with typically are not interested in it either.

[Elvis 2008]

Nah, these chicks spent much more time than 45 minutes doing what they were supposed to do. I don't like to get into too dirty of details, but they did everything we wanted with enthusiasm and they were compensated quite fairly. As I have said for the millionth time now, its not my style to spend money like that, but these chicks def earned their doe and did not pull any shady shit.

No need to defend this Ram, you paid the going rate. I was kind of wondering what the fuck was going on with the pandemic. I was scoring great women in Mexico and Colombia but prices in the USA doubled.

I was usually able to pull an 8 or 9 type out of a strip club for $300. The pandemic hit and girls were asking for a $1000 an hour. LOL. They would go down but it made no sense to me until I saw this:

https://twitter.com/billmaher/status...43705801674752

This is the money going into the hands of hos. I even talked to a dancer who got a $30,000 low interest loan and bragged about how easy it is. I bet it will be forgiven. Biden is trying to pay everyone off by forgiving all kinds of loans.

Thing is that there was this belief that printing money would not cause inflation. Well, you do enough of it and it happens. Inflation does not seem like it has hit Medellin like Cartagena but it will.

I have been loading up on triple inverse ETFS and am going to cash in. Seeing hos is like the ultimate luxury item, and it is a good time to go short when prices with them is out of control like it is now.

[Mr Enternational]

I am seeing the same prices as Ram is and Mr. E is saying he can get gals for free and you can get them for $200 an hour.

How is that possible? Oh right, you two are completely full of shit. Do you have any fucking clue what today's rates are in the USA?

It is possible because there are tons of different chicks in tons of different places. You are talking like the big ass USA is a monolith and the only place anyone can find a female is a place where they want $2000.

Because you paid $6 for a gallon of unleaded by the airport in Los Angeles you are acting like a mf passing through Bessemer, Alabama can not get the same gallon of gas at a station for $3.30.

Just because Elvis rented a private plane to get to Miami does not mean the next mf has to get to Miami by renting a private plane and it is impossible to get there by hitchhiking, by taking a train, by driving your own car, or even by fucking walking.

You assume the only road to Rome is the one you are driving on and someone saying they arrived by any other road is full of shit.

[MarquisdeSade1]

And what would she be getting in Botero Plaza? Probably the same 30 or 40K that everyone else gets around there.

If anyone seen her with him, much much less than that LOL.

[MarquisdeSade1]

The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.

The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations.

In my experience, a lot of guys who play this ratings game do not discern between the illusion of a girl with make-up and dressed a certain way compared to chicas who don't. In fact, take away the make-up and a lot of these so called nines look very different. Experienced mongers know it's not what they look like when you take them home, but what they look like when you wake up next to them in the morning.

I agree with most of this post.

I think the 1-10 rating system is so subjective it is almost meaningless when talking with others.

That said.

If you put a gun to my head, I will say I have seen and done a few 10's.

Blonde haired blued eyed 18 yo absolutely perfect goddesses (xero physical flaws), no ink no babies no implants but unfortunately too much attitude for my liking (I can get more pleasure from pornhub for free sans the bitchiness).

When I monger I hunt for what in my mind would be an 8 on my internal 1-10 scale.

I will settle for some PSE with 7's, (but I typically try to avoid the divas that I would consider 9's or 10's).

But really don't want to go below that.

So in closing I think this scale should be used for "internal purposes only".

[Mr Enternational]

My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC

And what would she be getting in Botero Plaza? Probably the same 30 or 40K that everyone else gets around there.

[Mr Enternational]

A more enlightened conversation could go something like this. Mongerer Joe says, "I love my new girlfriend, she's just what I have been looking for. " Mongerer Bob, "What do you find so attractive about her"? Joe replies, "She weighs 400 pounds, and I love fat chics".

You said something in that post brother. Never have I been out mongering with friends and one of us picked a chick and another said ewww, are you sure you want her. She is just a 4. Go over there and grab one of those 8s. We have no competition going. Get what you want and have fun.

Online there seems to be a big competition among strangers though. The girl that I am paying is better than yours. You girl is not good because you only have to pay her 30,000 pesos. Chicks that want more money are better. Chicks that sell pussy in this neighborhood are better than the chicks in the neighborhood you are buying pussy in.

[Mr Enternational]

In my experience, a lot of guys who play this ratings game do not discern between the illusion of a girl with make-up and dressed a certain way compared to chicas who don't. In fact, take away the make-up and a lot of these so called nines look very different. Experienced mongers know it's not what they look like when you take them home, but what they look like when you wake up next to them in the morning.

I was thinking about starting a dating site where chicks could only post 3 pictures. All would have to be against a white wall and 1 would have to be with no makeup, like a drivers license picture or mugshot, so guys would really know what they are bargaining for. I do not think it would work though because there are too many guys that are deep into the fantasy or illusion as you put it. They think if the chick has a picture on a boat or wearing special shoes then she is automatically better than another chick and worth more.

[Mr Enternational]

She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place,

And you fell for that bullshit? What skills does she posses and what was she going to be doing to be paid 2 million pesos per month? I was at an old flame's house last night here in Barranquilla. For 1,100,000 pesos she works from Monday through Saturday, 6:30am to 8pm with an hour and a half for lunch.

Seems there would have been a line straight into the next city if they were giving out a job paying 2 million to someone with no skills (assuming your girl has no special skills because if she did you would have already mentioned them.)

How could she have known you two would see each other less? You may have even adjusted your schedule and it turned out you could see each other more. Me thinks you got played my man.

See a player like myself would have said okay go ahead and take the job and we will see how things work out. There would probably end up not even being a job at that point. Something would have happened and the offer would have fell through. And if it really was a real job offer, she could have always quit later with you then deciding to pay the rent if you had not continued to see each other to your satisfaction. But you put the cart before the damn horse. You need to stay 3 steps ahead of these women instead of running behind them playing catch up.

If I am ever paying rent then it is on MY place. Maybe I would allow a broad to stay in MY place (which I would not actually do) but I am not handing over money recurringly for some broad to have a place to lay her head. That shit is out of the question. Even if I was sending a chick money for any reason, I would have a key to her place. I am not helping out on bills at a place I do not have a key to and can not pop up anytime I damn well please.

Funny how this woman is so great that no other suitors and their money were good enough for her. Only Elvis and his magic $500 per month held the key to her heart. What is your secret? What did you do to crack this nut that everyone else did not?

[Osteoknot]

The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.

The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations.

In my experience, a lot of guys who play this ratings game do not discern between the illusion of a girl with make-up and dressed a certain way compared to chicas who don't. In fact, take away the make-up and a lot of these so called nines look very different. Experienced mongers know it's not what they look like when you take them home, but what they look like when you wake up next to them in the morning.

If I had to apply a ranking system, (gun to my head) I would say all my girls are nines to me, and it is irrelevant what another monger thinks. Looks might grab my attention initially, but then I immediately start factoring in all the other things that make a girl a pleasure to be around. Personality can be the attraction without a primary consideration of appearance. Basically, the girls who I end up with look the way they look, another guys 9 or a 3, I don't care.

Guys who say there girls have to be a certain number will cop-out and say they still want a girl with personality and all the intangibles but that she has to be a nine or whatever number, first. I got a newsflash for you. That is code for "I can only get it up if a girl looks a certain way". We are right back where we started. Self-doubt and insecurity.

The other cop-out is saying, "I use a number, but it only matters to me. " Newsflash #2: then you don't need a number which only has utility for comparisons with other hunters. Even if a monger believes he is using the system with like-minded mongers, for example, all their "nines" have blonde hair, blue eyes and big tits, then at least in theory you could be creating competition for yourself, which would counter-productive. Every experienced monger knows the best wingman's "nine" should be very different from your "nine", another fatal flaw of this ranking system, jajaja.

Finally, the absurdity within the absurd is a ranking of ten. If the scale is 1-10, then ten represents perfection, and no girl in the history of the world is perfect. Show me any female, any person, and my trained eye will call out an imperfection within seconds.

We will always be saddled with the common, the base, in this case using numbers to rank beauty. That is a less enlightened, less advanced viewpoint that creates unnecessary obstacles and restrictions designed to relieve the internal psychological conflicts of the mongers who use the system. They pay artificially inflated prices they themselves have created. Since all participants appear willing, I don't see the harm.

There are venues designed to attract guys who partake in this system, such as high end bars and clubs, where not surprisingly the prices are the highest for everything from the girls to the drinks.

A more enlightened conversation could go something like this. Mongerer Joe says, "I love my new girlfriend, she's just what I have been looking for. " Mongerer Bob, "What do you find so attractive about her"? Joe replies, "She weighs 400 pounds, and I love fat chics". Jaajajajaja Ostee Out.

[Villainy]

LOL. And now you are going through what I am. You pay a decent price for USA pussy and everyone on this forum says you overpaid. What I have learned the guys do on the Medellin forum is compare their 5's and 6's to 9's and 10's and say you are wasting your money.

Yeah, paying her to fuck never happened. I gave her no cash the first six months or so we we were together. She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place, but I would have to be for a hotel if I did not get the place.

Odd, I know you haven't met me and my dates. And the same for several other people. So what makes you think our girls would be 5's or 6's? As usual you don't know what you are talking about. Nobody cares about Ram's night of debauchery, I don't get along with Ram but I'm glad he had a good time. But notice this. Ram isn't saying he bedded the hottest woman who ever lived, he doesn't think he found the Mount Everest of mongering.

My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC if she went that route, but she never would.

Sofia Vergara is five foot seven, 140 lbs. Her measurements are 38-28-39. My gal is five feet 10,125 lbs. Measurements are around 34-24-37, and she worked from age 13 to the day she got pregnant as a model. I am biased, but I think my girl is prettier than SV.

Your friends? You have friends? Maybe your friends lied so as not to get into a never-ending argument. Or maybe your friends think you are koo-koo for coco puffs and just tried to keep you sedated.

Oh and as too Sofia Vergara. Seriously you think you have bragging rights? How old is your dependent call-girl? 30? 28? Sofia is 49 going on 50 and she looks slamming to everyone who doesn't have eyesight impairment. Maybe you'll save a few SV photos and compare your girl after a few more years. And we'll see what your "friends" say then.

Thing with these dummies is they keep trying to throw out these rules based on the centro chick low lifes and do not get that their rules will not work to get a gal like the one I have

Seriously? You met your girl how? Through SA? How many ways are there to meet girls in Medellin. "Let me count the ways" .

1. El Centro streetwalkers.

2. Casas- throughout the city and 75% of them you won't find without local help.

3. Parque Lleras and Gustos and that area. Higher-end tourist traps.

4. Strip Clubs (Fase2, La Isla, Luna Lunera, Club Ejectivo and on and on).

5. Internet agencies (Photoprepagos, Mileroticos, Skokka).

6. Face-Book girls & Tinder.

7. Seeking Arrangement, Colombia Cupid, Latina America Cupid.

And then we reach a different plateau where the girls are amenable to an intimate tryst but they either have a job or are enrolled in university and this is just a side thing.

I'm sure I didn't get anywhere listing every possibility. So why is it you think people criticizing you are picking up the El Centro streetwalkers? And not any of the other myriad possible meeting methods?

I was trying to tell them how to fish for what I got, and all these bullshit artists insist what they have is as good as what I do and that I am overpaying for a ho.

The real truth is that you came on claiming you had the prettiest working-girl ever and you were committed to her. And none of the rest of us could ever hope to do as well as you.

Sorry Elvie, as is almost always the case you don't know what you are talking about. Just because some working girl fell in love with your wallet, don't get too swollen a head.

You may not know this Elvis but there are an incredible number of gorgeous women in Colombia, and Medellin in particular. Many of them are already in love with your wallet (or mine or JjBee62's or.) it's what they do to make money. You're just another guy who fell in love with his hooker. Maybe you'll be wiser the next time.