Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

WoW. JjBee62 is paying working-girls but not Elvis. Oh no! He is supporting a working-girl that he cares about. I'm sorry Elvis. There is a universal rule and it applies whether you are a frequent monger or just an occasional one. You don't fall in love with your hooker. You can like her, you can be in awe of how she makes you feel for those rented moments but come to grips with reality. She loves your wallet and not you. The minute someone comes along and throws more money at her than you can. You're going to wonder how she could disappear after all you've done for her.

You call her a '10'. OK, of course, your rating system is based on your own subjective tastes. Your '10' might easily be my '7' and vice versa. There is no universal standard with regards to beauty. But what makes her so special? Does she have an advanced degree? Does she spend hundreds of hours a year helping people who are less fortunate than herself? What qualities does she have other than you like the way she looks and they way she makes you feel in bed??

I'll summarize it in a way you might be able to understand (if not now, then later). JjBee62, Mr. E and Huacho are finding their pleasures in an economical, rational way. They aren't looking for love in all the wrong places.

You (Elvis) on the other hand are trying to buy love. And you're trying to buy it from a "sugar baby" (to use one of the less pungent descriptions)..

Any reality check for Elvis is going to come back marked "NSF."

I fall in love with every hooker. I get sweaty, my pulse races, I get flushed, all clear signs. But I always remember "if you love something set it free. If it comes back it's yours forever."

Once my pulse returns to normal, I set my love free by peeling off the condom and dropping it in the trash. So far none have returned.

[Huacho]

You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about.

And the difference is minuscule and unclear to many on this board.

In the USA, one is virtuous stupid and simp-like and the other is a crime whose 'victim' remains unclear.

Fixed that for you!

[JjBee62]

You keep trying to make your 7's into 10's. The ex fianc was a petrochemical engineer and model not a WG. A best of the best woman is not going to put up with your seeing four other women and if you had one special one, you would have kept her and blown the others off.

You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. In the USA, one is virtuous and the other is a crime, and you are calling me names? LOL. You are a five time john, loser.

That comment about her "fucking up" by having a kid is about as tactless as you can get. Who knew Osteo would be the voice of reason? You are actually saying a woman should have had an abortion to win an argument? WTF is wrong with you?

All your really doing is showing what loser hos your women are. You would not know what a 10 woman was if she bit you in the ass.

A petrochemical engineer now? My goodness! Next she'll be a former Miss Universe. It's strange that a petrochemical engineer would give up her career to be a SB, or need someone to not only support her, but pay to relocate her and her family. And she gave up her free ride to fall for (if I remember correctly) a MLM scam? Doesn't seem like she was a very good petrochemical engineer.

I'm paying WGs and you're supporting someone you care about? Is there a difference? I'm paying by the fuck, you're paying by the month. Considering the someone you care about was advertising on SA looking for someone to support her, the only difference is I don't confuse paying for sex with being in love.

I've never tried to turn a 7 into a 10. Rating beauty on a 1-10 scale is for adolescents, particularly if you're discussing anything beyond FFF encounters (find them, fuck them, forget them). As for the women I'm with, my rating system is Boolean, not numerical.

1. Do I want to spend time with her?

2. Did I enjoy spending time with her?

3. Do I want to spend more time with her?

Whether or not other people want to spend time with her isn't part of the process. Why would it be? Do you also worry that other guys won't be impressed by what you eat?

The beauty of my system is my happiness isn't bound to some stranger's opinion. It also has a simple solution. If I'm happy, the loop resets. If I'm not, it breaks the loop. Your system goes on until the girl realizes you aren't paying her enough to put up with you. Then there's the crying, the begging, the name calling, the threats, followed by the pouting.

Who mentioned abortion? Perhaps you haven't heard about the options for preventing pregnancy? There are quite a few, and most are inexpensive and readily available. There's also the free option, "think before you fuck. " Granted, most teenagers don't consider the consequences of their actions.

Here's a bit of wisdom for you. The time to make a decision about an action with potential consequences, is before the action, not after you're facing the consequences.

How am I showing what "loser hos" my women are? First, they're not mine. That whole owning other people thing was outlawed. Second, how does having a job, or attending university make someone a loser? How does making it past 18 without a child they can't support make women losers? Finally, how does not requesting or expecting payment for sex make a woman a ho?

Just for the sake of illustrating your foolishness, let's assume the women I see are "loser hos. " Why are the women I date such a significant factor in your life? They could all be psychopaths or saints and it should have no bearing on your life, yet it does. I only mentioned them to illustrate that your criteria for a "best of the best" girl are not the universal best criteria.

Just to clarify, saying someone fucked up, even if it involves the most important decision in their life, isn't a judgment. Almost everyone fucks up a few important decisions. Most recover from their mistakes and go on to fuck something else up. Are you saying that getting pregnant by someone you called a loser was a wise choice?

I do see WGs. It's clearly stated and agreed upon in advance. Whether they have jobs or children doesn't matter, except as a topic of conversation between the WG and I. If I didn't see WGs I would never have signed on to ISG. If people who see WGs are all losers, why are you here?

As with all of your tantrums, this one was completely unnecessary (but I'm enjoying it). You found a girl. You decided to commit to that girl, without actually committing. You could have simply said "I found my dream girl and I'm no longer looking" and everyone would have toasted your success and wished you luck. Drop mic and exit triumphant.

But that doesn't work for you. You would rather fail and have everyone congratulate you for succeeding, than to succeed without anyone noticing. Instead of making a simple statement (or fading away, as most people would do), you had to claim a success beyond anyone's reach. When nobody erected a statue to commemorate your incredible achievement (finding a girl who was looking for someone to support her, and agreeing to support her, an achievement the equivalent of successfully buying a beer at a bar, correction, the best of the best beer), you went through your normal cycle. First you pleaded for someone to acknowledge you, then you resorted to hyperbole, self-congratulation and ultimately, insults.

Why not just lead with the insults?

[JjBee62]

Yeah, after I responded to your post I thought better of it. Didn't really make sense to read your post out of context like I did.

My prototype for the best of the best kind of chica you can find around here is the young single mother with an only child delivered by Cesarean and with her mom at home.

Kid: Mom is highly motivated to use her wet holes to provide for child.

Cesarean: Outlet tract has not been dilated and stretched, although these Colombian and Venezuelan pussies and assholes snap back like nothing I ever saw in North America.

Mom: Built in child-care.

At this point, we are discussing personal preference, so you may certainly have the last word if you wish.

Nothing wrong with your personal preference. I could debate either side of with or without kids, if we're talking strictly for compensated coitus. I'll go against the Cesarean, however. The less scars the better. I might feel differently if I has encountered any Tom Petty pussy in Colombia.

If I decided to marry one, with or without a kid would be possible. However, if I was looking for a Sugar Baby, childless is better.

[Villainy]

You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. In the USA, one is virtuous and the other is a crime, and you are calling me names? LOL. You are a five time john, loser.

That comment about her "fucking up" by having a kid is about as tactless as you can get. Who knew Osteo would be the voice of reason? You are actually saying a woman should have had an abortion to win an argument? WTF is wrong with you?

All your really doing is showing what loser hos your women are. You would not know what a 10 woman was if she bit you in the ass.

WoW. JjBee62 is paying working-girls but not Elvis. Oh no! He is supporting a working-girl that he cares about. I'm sorry Elvis. There is a universal rule and it applies whether you are a frequent monger or just an occasional one. You don't fall in love with your hooker. You can like her, you can be in awe of how she makes you feel for those rented moments but come to grips with reality. She loves your wallet and not you. The minute someone comes along and throws more money at her than you can. You're going to wonder how she could disappear after all you've done for her.

You call her a '10'. OK, of course, your rating system is based on your own subjective tastes. Your '10' might easily be my '7' and vice versa. There is no universal standard with regards to beauty. But what makes her so special? Does she have an advanced degree? Does she spend hundreds of hours a year helping people who are less fortunate than herself? What qualities does she have other than you like the way she looks and they way she makes you feel in bed??

I'll summarize it in a way you might be able to understand (if not now, then later). JjBee62, Mr. E and Huacho are finding their pleasures in an economical, rational way. They aren't looking for love in all the wrong places.

You (Elvis) on the other hand are trying to buy love. And you're trying to buy it from a "sugar baby" (to use one of the less pungent descriptions).

Will she still be a 10 when she sprouts a few wrinkles? What about when her boobs start to sag? What about when you get tired of steak and you crave lobster? Or Peking duck? (it feels pretty slimy to compare women to food but that analogy seems to thrill you).

Oh and finally, how is her English? Good? Great? Still learning? Well maybe she can teach you the difference between "your" and "you're".

[Osteoknot]

You failed to comprehend.

Yeah, after I responded to your post I thought better of it. Didn't really make sense to read your post out of context like I did.

My prototype for the best of the best kind of chica you can find around here is the young single mother with an only child delivered by Cesarean and with her mom at home.

Kid: Mom is highly motivated to use her wet holes to provide for child.

Cesarean: Outlet tract has not been dilated and stretched, although these Colombian and Venezuelan pussies and assholes snap back like nothing I ever saw in North America.

Mom: Built in child-care.

At this point, we are discussing personal preference, so you may certainly have the last word if you wish.

[Elvis 2008]

No. You would be a "simp" (and I hate that word), because of things like:

1. Supporting a woman is a privilege.

2. A woman must earn your monogamy.

3. Paying to move a hooker and her family to another country.

6. Claiming a woman who already has a kid by some loser is the best of the best. She fucked up the most important decision she'll ever make and had to find a sucker to support her, her mistake and apparently her family too.

You keep trying to make your 7's into 10's. The ex fianc was a petrochemical engineer and model not a WG. A best of the best woman is not going to put up with your seeing four other women and if you had one special one, you would have kept her and blown the others off.

You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. In the USA, one is virtuous and the other is a crime, and you are calling me names? LOL. You are a five time john, loser.

That comment about her "fucking up" by having a kid is about as tactless as you can get. Who knew Osteo would be the voice of reason? You are actually saying a woman should have had an abortion to win an argument? WTF is wrong with you?

All your really doing is showing what loser hos your women are. You would not know what a 10 woman was if she bit you in the ass.

[AmorPorFavor]

Payment does not determine price in a free marked controlled by Supply & Demand, but nice try.

It was a joke but thanks for the econ lesson.

[Mr Enternational]

Perhaps I am missing some context because I did not read Elvis' post to which you responded, but your number 6 answer seems waaaaay off. I guess you know enough to call the guy who impregnated her a loser, but your point is sexist, as if all the blame falls on her.

You definitely missed it. According to Elvis, his girl, his girl's daughter, and his girl's family considers the guy a loser because he uses drugs and hits women. I asked so what does that make her for choosing him. His excuse for her is that she was young. Although the guy was young too, no excuses for that loser.

Seems he is basing her being the best of the best because she is pretty. He has never pointed out any other outstanding qualities about her, and to be honest, I do not even remember him saying she is pretty. The only adjective he gives to describe his bill is "best". She is the best bill ever in history and sux for us that we can not get one just like her. Really hard for sub-par guys like us to find someone to let us pay their bills in this day and time. Life stinks!

[Mr Enternational]

Mr. E. he is actually the one I was talking to about this not you guys. He has own issues so he is not going to replicate what I have done or if he does, at least not talk about it right away. Mr. E bitched about sugar babies and then looked to get an account on seeking. He was totally with you on Covid and then changed his mind. He changes his mind and just forgets what he said to start with.

Of course I am not intending to replicate paying the rent for any sorry ass grown woman.

I went on Seeking to see the chicks. I never paid any money to send them emails. The chicks there look the same as the chicks on any other website despite those that use the site saying how above other chicks Seeking chicks supposedly are. Anyone can look for themselves. I even saw a couple of chicks on there that I already knew from Cupid that I have never given money to. So I would like to thank guys like Elvis for paying their bills so that they would not expect me to.

I do not know who I was supposedly with on Covid or what I changed to. I have had my own opinions since day 1 and have not faltered. I am still not vaccinated and have yet to fall ill. I have a vaccine card, a qr code, and can still make test results at the click of a finger. So really what did I change from and to?

It seems many countries are finally lifting restrictions as well. As of May 1 Thailand is no longer requiring stupid tests or booking of covid hotels to quarantine in. As of May 1 people will not have to wear masks in Lima outside although half the people already don't. Philippines has opened back up. Europe. Whoever is still balls deep in their defense of covid restrictions seem to be on the sinking side of history.

[JjBee62]

Anyone typing out long posts day in and day out fighting to get the best of strangers in a hooker forum has a "fragile ego. " The rare occasional indulgence is excusable, but as a regular thing, and damn near as a way of life then someone has a problem. Size up the shoe and see if it fits.

As to the "women" or GFs, well most of these hookers have several guys they call their "BF" who send them money so we can add sucker to the list. That's while pointing out once again that one couldn't find a worse place for advice on relationships than a hooker forum, as most guys who congregate here are failures at this, and thus choose to satisfy their primal urges with P4P.

I'm surprised. I figured you would be off licking your wounds for another week. Did you just get a testosterone booster and started feeling macho again?

Getting the best of strangers on a hooker board doesn't require much of a fight. Afterall, there aren't many stranger than you and I've had no trouble there. You've resorted to sending PMs to others, hoping one of them could do what you can't, get the best of me. Shit, you even made a trip to Parque Lleras to find me, because I had blocked you. Just out of curiosity, can you name 1 person who regularly visits Medellin, who you can message and say "let's go get a beer?" Anyone out there who you haven't alienated?

As for making it a regular thing, you've been guilty yourself, many times, except it's almost your only contribution. Then when someone dunks on you, you sit on the bench pouting for 2 weeks. Besides, it's 600 miles between Denver and Kansas City with nothing interesting on the way. Pointing out your inadequacy helps cover the miles.

You're right about one thing. Most of the working girls will take all the gringo boyfriends they can get. However, as usual, you assume your experiences are the same as mine.

By the way, whatever happened to your Colombian friend who drugged and robbed you? Maybe he will come and drink with you again.

[JjBee62]

Perhaps I am missing some context because I did not read Elvis' post to which you responded, but your number 6 answer seems waaaaay off. I guess you know enough to call the guy who impregnated her a loser, but your point is sexist, as if all the blame falls on her.

I also see it as exceedingly unfair to brand every female with an unwanted pregnancy as fucking up the most important decision she'll ever make. Perhaps if she were to choose to stay home and take care of her kid instead of going to work as a research scientist to discover the cure for cancer, then maybe you have a point. That is a hypothetical and extreme example by design.

I just remembered after I started answering this, I was an unplanned, illegitimate kid who forced the marriage of two people. Exactly where does the "fuck up" of that decision begin and end?

Maybe in your never-ending quest to bash Elvis you got a little carried away? I probably should go back and read what Elvis wrote before I responded to you, but that would be a change for me, and I fear change, jaja.

You failed to comprehend.

First, Elvis identified the father as a loser. You'll have to go back a ways to find that post, and he might have used a different word, but same basic idea.

The main point was calling the woman "best of the best." By my criteria, she's disqualified from being far above any other woman that anyone on ISG, has ever had, by the fact of the child. As always, I'll explain.

She might be incredibly beautiful, talented in bed and a world class cook and housekeeper. She might make an excellent girlfriend or even wife. However, per his somewhat vague description, she's much more. She's a pinnacle which nobody else has any hope of ever conquering. However, she has a kid.

And that knocks her down to the same level as most of the women most of us are using for entertainment purposes. She has a prior obligation. That creates limits. Spontaneity is severely restricted, if not eliminated. He can't, in the middle of dinner decide to go straight to the airport and take the next flight to anywhere. If they're spending a week away, he can't extend the trip indefinitely. The child must come first.

If he decides on a real commitment and wants to have children with her, her existing child will almost certainly cause some issues. Certainly it will complicate things.

I don't blame the woman for getting pregnant, it's the Colombian national pastime for teenagers. However, it undeniably altered the path of her life and created a more difficult path for the offspring.

Her child also creates a potential problem for Elvis. If the two bond emotionally, it puts him in a difficult position. If he decides he no longer wants to keep the woman as his SB, he might feel obligated to continue because of the child. If he chooses to walk, will the child suffer?

I'm not interested in the SD-SB thing, but as I see it, it's a compromise. You get the benefits of a relationship, with the freedom to walk away, no muss, no fuss. Add a child and it's basically a marriage without the tax deduction.

[DontSayMuch]

Hello board,

I'm thinking of going to Medellin in the next six months but am having a little problem with this forum's layout and finding questions. I'll ask some questions here and if there's a post or thread this is answered then if you could let me know where that is I'd really appreciate it.

I'll try not to ask too many questions at once and will break it up.

I'm looking to stay at a hotel / complex that has alright security, is guest friendly (multiple and no questions asked), and is near a good place to monger. For under $100 ideally.

Thanks for any responses, I appreciate it.

DSM.

[Osteoknot]

6. Claiming a woman who already has a kid by some loser is the best of the best. She fucked up the most important decision she'll ever make and had to find a sucker to support her, her mistake and apparently her family too.

Perhaps I am missing some context because I did not read Elvis' post to which you responded, but your number 6 answer seems waaaaay off. I guess you know enough to call the guy who impregnated her a loser, but your point is sexist, as if all the blame falls on her.

I also see it as exceedingly unfair to brand every female with an unwanted pregnancy as fucking up the most important decision she'll ever make. Perhaps if she were to choose to stay home and take care of her kid instead of going to work as a research scientist to discover the cure for cancer, then maybe you have a point. That is a hypothetical and extreme example by design.

I just remembered after I started answering this, I was an unplanned, illegitimate kid who forced the marriage of two people. Exactly where does the "fuck up" of that decision begin and end?

Maybe in your never-ending quest to bash Elvis you got a little carried away? I probably should go back and read what Elvis wrote before I responded to you, but that would be a change for me, and I fear change, jaja.

[Paulie97]

And I won't go the childish route of claiming any of them are the best of the best. My ego isn't fragile.

Anyone typing out long posts day in and day out fighting to get the best of strangers in a hooker forum has a "fragile ego. " The rare occasional indulgence is excusable, but as a regular thing, and damn near as a way of life then someone has a problem. Size up the shoe and see if it fits.

As to the "women" or GFs, well most of these hookers have several guys they call their "BF" who send them money so we can add sucker to the list. That's while pointing out once again that one couldn't find a worse place for advice on relationships than a hooker forum, as most guys who congregate here are failures at this, and thus choose to satisfy their primal urges with P4P.