Thread: Stupid shit in Medellin
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02-08-22 20:01 #3289
Posts: 1798Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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02-08-22 19:04 #3288
Posts: 2947Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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02-08-22 17:43 #3287
Posts: 1643Thanks for the response
Originally Posted by ElCapo [View Original Post]
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02-08-22 17:34 #3286
Posts: 1643Looks like I was mistaken about your viewpoints
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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02-08-22 17:29 #3285
Posts: 1643I see
Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
For most clinical data, the most useful measure is the end outcome, and not a measure of the process itself. Smallpox end outcome? Gone, eradicated. Polio? Soon to be the same. For me, your argument is a Red Herring. Ostee out.
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02-08-22 17:21 #3284
Posts: 15941Originally Posted by Osteoknot
I never said a vaccine should not have been tried. I said it should be left to the individual whether they wanted to receive it or not and things such as benefits or employment should not be held over their head for them choosing not to undergo said medical procedure. You are showing who is really coo coo for cocoa puffs around here.
Originally Posted by Osteoknot
Now I am going back to my vaccine board where we discuss hookers.
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02-08-22 17:10 #3283
Posts: 1798Originally Posted by FunLuvr [View Original Post]
But if it is a successful example of how to apply targetted protection, then I will take a closer look. What I find amazing is that it flies in the face of those states that are still advocating even for children to get vaxd. It seems that the conservatives are slowly waking up to reality now. I see David Pakman is now changing his position post omicron. Sam Harris is now taking an anti-mandate psoition despite having public spats and falling out with some of his best science friends. As per usual, mostly authoritarian governments are the last to wake up. Plus a few obstinate folk that refuse to accept they are on the wrong side of the fence.
BTW - My hypothetical option of targetted protection is what the Barrington Declaration was about, many many months ago. Those people were removed from social media by our authorities. Yet I still think they were correct.
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02-08-22 16:59 #3282
Posts: 1798Originally Posted by Osteoknot [View Original Post]
You clearly did invent the stat. How could anyone stare in to a crystal ball and declare with certainty that 80-90% of the deaths would have died anyway within the next 2 years. At best its an estimate, not a stat.
"proposed choices" - I didn't make any proposed choices. I put forward a hypothetical for people to think about.
Osteo, sometimes chatting with you is like talking to a drunkard in a club. I say smthg, then you say smthg back that is not even related to what I said. You been taking lessons from JPaedo?
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02-08-22 16:47 #3281
Posts: 1043Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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02-08-22 15:09 #3280
Posts: 1643That's a Dirty Trick
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
I did not "invent" that stat.
Both of your proposed choices are wrong.
If you had been paying attention to my posts, then you would know the answer, which is, "do nothing. " However, that answer is now moot, and was not realistic at the time because it would have taken medical and political willpower that did not and still does not exist to implement.
That part of the solution is theory and not fact, but because of the source, me, that theory happens to be correct. Geez. You will need to study this answer a bit, well everyone here would, in order to properly understand it.
And puhleeez tell me, that you did not actually intend to write "hyperthetical"? JFC, don't answer, it's a "hypothetical" question, jajajajajajajaaaaaaaaaa.
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02-08-22 14:32 #3279
Posts: 1798Grim reaper is at your door
A invented stat that Osteo posted got me thinking, if it were indeed true that 80-90% of deaths were of old people that would have died in the next coupla years. Which given the average age and prevalence of comorbidities, might not be wildly off the mark. How would you respond to this. Hyperthetical:
If we had known beforehand that this was the case, would you still mandate to lock everyone up, close the economy, and fire the non-vaxd, or would a more targetted protection policy be appropriate?
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02-08-22 14:26 #3278
Posts: 1798Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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02-08-22 14:10 #3277
Posts: 1643I will answer this one last question for you
Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
I am not worried, but you made a factual statement. One of those parameters would be, "Ignore the data".
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
You are one of the 3 or 4 posters here who would be able to understand and comprehend The Truth of what is going on. JuJuBee is another one. Maybe a couple of other random posters who I forget. I try not to associate too many Usernames with specific posts, in order to keep the content of the posts in my head without prejudicing myself against or for specific Users. Obviously, sometimes that is impossible to accomplish because I see the names next to the post and cannot always force myself to forget. Plus a lot of guys have an obvious style of writing.
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02-08-22 09:00 #3276
Posts: 14Originally Posted by Osteoknot [View Original Post]
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02-08-22 08:15 #3275
Posts: 5475Originally Posted by Osteoknot [View Original Post]
For Polio it was pretty easy. The disease can only be spread through fecal material and a person is only infectious for 1-2 weeks. Also polio virus is only found humans. No animals are known to carry it. This is beneficial.