Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

OMG, I kid you not one of my best friends in the world, near Chicago. She showed me fotos from her young niece's birthday party, and the clown was John Wayne Gacy. The fotos were just mixed in with all the other fotos, but she knew who it was. Nothing bad happened. Like you said, decent citizen and member of the community.

That's the big picture reality. Almost everyone is a decent citizen and member of the community. It's become cliche. Whenever someone commits an atrocity, there are friends, neighbors, old teachers all saying how the perpetrator was just a normal citizen.

[JjBee62]

Look man, I don't want to go back and forth with you all day. In all my life, I have never met a dude who donates 25% of his hard earned cash to charity. Seems really fucking strange to me. If I had to guess, you got to be full of shit and just trying to look noble in a filthy sex mongering forum. But if that's what really lights up your day, giving tens of thousands of dollars to total fucking strangers, then god bless you. You certainly don't need me to tell you what to do with your money.

Paulie has jumped in plenty of time and started shit with me over the vaccine shit. He's a big boy, he can handle it I am sure. Again, your posts are just weird and it bothers me. Are you really going back and reading and counting posts where I attacked people and keeping score? Again, you have way too much time on your hands. For the record, if you do go back and read my posts, I am usually responding to the hate and not starting it.

You would help your cause immensely if you took the time to read and understand what you respond to. If you had properly understood my post there would be no need to go back and forth.

"Last year my cash donations came up to almost 25% of my income (and none of that went to a church or other non-profit group). " Yet you respond " I have never met a dude who donates 25% of his hard earned cash to charity. "

I don't donate cash to charities. I help out people who, for whatever reason are in need. The reason is simple. Every non-profit organization uses some of the money for overhead, salaries, advertising, or political donations. If I wanted to pay people to decide which people deserve assistance, I'd start my own charity.

Someone's house burns down and they lose everything, I spend some money helping them recover. Someone has a legitimate need, if I can, I help.

You don't have to guess about what I do with my money. Although your guess is hilarious, since you label ISG as a "filthy sex mongering forum." There's some serious self-hate in that label. You obviously monger, but you consider mongering as filthy. Perhaps we've found the core of your anger.

If my posts are weird and they bother you, it appears the problem lies with you. You claim I'm here 24/7 writing dozens of posts, so I went and looked. That's part of the process of gaining knowledge. If you just blindly accept what you're told, you learn nothing and often end up looking like a fool.

Since I looked at my post history, it made sense to look at yours. At that point you only had 109 posts. It took 2 minutes to scan through and count how many were posted in this thread. Since you now post exclusively in this thread, you're making yourself look worse with every post.

Paulie has jumped in and attacked you many times? Go ask mommy to kiss it and make it better. Then, after you dry your tears, explain why you decided to include me in your response to Paulie. If you had left me out of your rant, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

With each of your posts, you make yourself look worse. You attack Paulie because, in your fantasy, he does nothing to help others. Then you attack me because I do too much to help others. Meanwhile, it appears you do nothing to help others.

Except for your job, the thing you get paid to do, which helps others. In other words, you won't help others, unless you are getting paid to do it. Every job that everyone does helps others. From ditch diggers to dishwashers, plumbers to physicians, every job helps others.

Speaking of your job, your health plan probably includes mental health screening. You might benefit from taking advantage of that particular benefit.

[Nounce]

...If you want a serious discussion about what a human life costs, these are valued in civil courts every day. ...

It's not about monetary cost at all if that is what you are getting at

Assume there is a population of 1 million and only 1 person is over 50, that person's age is 99. Assume there is no monetary cost to quarantine (means curfew, restrictions, tests) anyone, and the people younger than 50 will get the virus but none will die.

You can 1: Quarantine the old men, or you can 2: Quarantine the rest of the population, what is your choice, 1, or 2? And why?

All human lives should have equal value

I can agree with that. My question to you is how do you measure it? Purely by number of years lived? What if a person's live span is shorten but not dead, should the shorten live span be taken into consideration?

[JjBee62]

I am not saying we should do anything to speed up death for anyone who is at risk. I do not mean to disrespect anyone based on age or health. It is funny to me because it is so glaringly obvious that we cannot control this virus and whether or not we have lockdowns, vaccine mandates, travel restrictions, etc. The same amount of people at this point are going to contract the virus. We might as well preserve our economy and freedom rather than destroy it in the name of politics, shaming, and fear mongering. I feel sorry for those affected by this virus, both young and old. The young losing out on normalcy during childhood and of course the elderly losing out at enjoying their golden years. As I have said before, this virus is a force of nature, it's like trying to control a hurricane, you can't to a certain degree. All you can do is minimize the damage it causes. I didn't need to do 12 hours of reading peer reviewed studies either to come to this conclusion. I am very concerned about real world problems like crime, inflation, and social isolation which is also wreaking havoc across society. Poor have gotten much poorer during this pandemic and it should addressed as much or if not more than vaccine mandates and travel tests for tourists.

I don't see how anyone can say what I wrote is insane, but I am sure haters will come out and spit venom because I am not a sheep in the herd.

Insane? Pretty close. I've got a bit of time to waste, so let's revisit it.

Old people die Huacho LOL. It's part of life. You can't make all of society suffer for a virus we haven't been able to control for over 2 years. At this point anyone advocating for vaccine mandates or crazy restrictions is not thinking clearly and following the "science". Even besides the "science", the people have spoke, no one gives a fuck anymore. Let people live while they are healthy and if you are at risk, you should be the one quarantining. Not shutting society down for people who are on their death beds anyway.

"Old people die Huacho LOL."

Not only does your opening line demonstrate a complete lack of empathy, you tack on a LOL to show that the idea of people dying prematurely is funny to you. If you're arguing that your post wasn't insane, you're off to a bad start.

"You can't make all of society suffer for a virus we haven't been able to control for over 2 years. "

I'll give you a pass on the 2 years part, even though in the US, absolutely no attempt was made to control the virus until April 2020. Let's just focus on "we haven't been able to control. "

Every attempt at control has met with fierce resistance. There was even a plot to kidnap the Governor of Michigan because people didn't want to wear masks. There was only one 4 week period when the US made a real attempt to control the virus. It was effective. As soon as it became obvious we were having success almost everyone stopped following the measures which were successfully controlling the virus.

The insane part of your comment is your failure to comprehend that the US isn't the only country in the world. Kind of nutty.

Since the beginning of the pandemic about 0. 4% of the US population has died from Covid. Over the same period, 0. 02% of the Cambodian population has died from Covid. In Canada deaths account for 0. 09% of the population. Deaths in Germany 0. 01% of the population. New Zealand, 0. 002%, Singapore 0. 02%.

It seems obvious, once you recognize that the US isn't the only country in the world, that controlling the virus has been done quite well in other places.

I won't quote the rest, but twice you put quotes around science. Doing so indicates you're not talking about science. Were you unaware, or are you talking about some pseudoscience? I will agree that many people aren't following the science, which is why the US has sucked so much ass at attempting to control the virus.

Your final bit of lunacy; "people who are on their death beds anyway. " Again, a complete lack of empathy and a failure to understand anything about human life. Being 60,70 or 80 years old doesn't equal "on their death beds. " Having diabetes, a heart condition, COPD or any other condition which is a Covid comorbidity isn't "on their death beds. " I met a guy in Medellin who was over 70 and still making 3 or 4 mongering trips per year. Another guy on ISG is in his 80's and is having the time of his life. Probably half the people here are eligible for the senior citizen discount at Denny's. Yet you clearly consider them all to be disposable.

Back to your post at the top. You mentioned "destroy our economy. " I've been scoffing at that idea for nearly 2 years now. No economy, throughout history has ever been destroyed. Severely damaged, yes. Destroyed, no. The US economy grew over 1. 7% last quarter, which is equal to an annual rate of 6. 9%, the strongest growth in decades. If you're claiming we need to stop "fear mongering", while claiming a strong and growing economy is being destroyed, what you're doing is fear mongering.

You also said we need to stop shaming, I'm assuming your talking about shaming people who argue that people shouldn't get vaccinated. However, in practically every post you're trying to shame someone. Why do you constantly do things you claim shouldn't be done?

In conclusion, perhaps "insane" is a bit strong. "Deranged", "uninformed" or "out of touch" might be more accurate labels.

[Mr Enternational]

Evidently a lot less people really want these jabs than the numbers say. Making a digital trail is really a rookie mistake. Do your dirt, but for scammer sake don't put the evidence in the state's database!

"Two nurses on New York's Long Island are being charged with forging Covid-19 vaccination cards and entering the fake jabs in the state's database, a scam that allegedly raked in more than $1.5 million.

From November 2021 to January 2022, the pair allegedly forged vaccination cards, charging adults $220 apiece and $85 per child for a fake record that would land in the New York State Immunization Information System database. ".

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/01/29/...5-million.html

[ChuchoLoco]

You guys jump to extreme conclusions so fast. Why would you assume I want unhealthy people to die? This is such a common thing I see about the weirdos who view the vaccines like its 15th century religious sin to always go to extreme lengths to promote the vaccine and shame anyone who doesn't want it mandated. I never said anything close to wanting unhealthy people to die. You make yourself look so biased and unhinged when you attribute views to people that they don't support just to argue your opinion.

Again, just look at the hundreds of thousands of cases a day of covid. Look at the hundreds of thousands of deaths since the 95% effective vaccines have been available. The mandates and restrictions are not going to slow the virus down at this point. The vaccines failed us. We all for the sake of society should be as realistic as possible about this virus and our response. We shouldn't just blindly blame everything on the 8% of people who didn't get the vaccine. That 8% did not make a significant difference. The difference was the vaccines didn't prevent transmission. The vaccines were not 95% effective at stopping death and hospitalization. We cannot control the virus at this point. If you at risk and value your health and safety, you should be social distancing / masking and forcing people to shutdown the economy and socially isolate themselves because we have done that and it doesn't work. It just destroys our economy, our youth's education, and increases crime and mental illness..

Read what you wrote. Old people die LOL. What's so funny about that? And you also said let the healthy live. You don't seem to be a Nazi at least not a real German Nazi. But you do seem to be a very angry person. Since you are so smart, what is your solution to the virus and where have you travelled in the last 3 years?

[Osteoknot]

Yet another topic that I should have previously listed in order to properly understand the Covid issues, probably next to the bell curve stuff, is of course p values and null hypotheses, basic stuff. I am certain I could come up with many more relevant topics if I put in the time and energy.

Assume for a moment you answered "yes" to all the topics I mentioned previously about what you needed to have for at least a working knowledge to understand the Covid issue. Then I would have to ask you, on what basis are your arguing your point? Do you have some secret inner knowledge or magic powers that enlightens only you and no one else in the world?

El Capo's story was the tip of the iceberg. Believable. That's not supposed to happen. Or let's say there is no utility in counting his outcome as a positive test result, because he wasn't sick. Or is there? Does he pass on the virus and make other people sick? And do they do the same? No one knows. People who tell you they know, don't know. That is the most common pitfall of people with above average intelligence, they don't know what they don't know.

There are significant enough errors in the totals of all the following data sets to render them unusable and corrupt:

People who didn't get "sick" but tested positive (Capo).

People who got sick and tested positive (this is the data set that needs the highest specificity) who lived or died (and highest positive predictive value).

People who got sick with Covid but tested negative, for numerous reasons, the least of which is not the unidentified mutations circulating in the population right now. Huge factor.

People who didn't get sick but tested negative and were still carrying and transmitting Covid with varying, unknown pathogenicity (significant, yet totally uncounted).

People who tested negative and died from Covid (you probably didn't even think of that one).

Not only are their significant numbers in each of these cohorts, except for perhaps the last one, the numbers are off by way more than a significant margin within each cohort. We have no idea of the accurate numbers in each cohort because of unreliability in testing, collecting data, and outcome measures. The exact mechanisms of those errors are many and beyond the scope of this answer. You could write a book about it and maybe I will.

That's what I am talking about when I tell you Covid is a giant clulsterfuck and shitshow. The train has left station. That ship has sailed. There is no valid data upon which we can draw useful conclusions about current state. If you happen to be right it is by intuition or dumb luck. That's why it is unnecessary for me to read all your posts about this because those of you who are arguing the loudest and the longest are the same ones who are the most clueless.

There is no giant conspiracy or any dominant force controlling anything with Covid other than nature, or God, or The Cosmic Blueberry Muffin, whichever you prefer. There may be groups that wish they could interject their control, but they can't, because you can't organize random mass chaos.

The reason everything is so unnatural right now is because this is the first major epidemic since the invention of the Internet, and just like assholes, everyone has an opinion and if they rant loud enough they can get heard.

We never should have intervened in the beginning, but now it's too late go back. No matter what we do, pretty much this virus is going to run a natural course. We may eventually get ahead of the eight ball with annual custom Covid vaccine shots. What does that remind you of? Fucking influenza A or flu shots for which we do exactly that already. Since everything I have predicted so far has come true with Covid, let me tell you how I believe it's going to end up.

You will get your annual Covid shot. They will mix it with flu vaccine to make it more convenient and you get protected from both Covid and flu each year with one stick. Somehow they will legislate it to be mandatory, which will be it's own separate clusterfuk. I don't know how many years it will take for this to happen, maybe 5-6? My guess is better than yours.

The Covid era will be history until the next new epidemic hits. And if we don't apply lessons learned from this pansy virus, and we get hit by a new virus with a seriously high attack and mortality rate, guess what kiddies? That's the end. The end of all of it. The end of mankind.

Every time someone on ISG says something Covid related like, "Oh, you did this so that happened" they are simply stroking their own ego by agreeing with themselves and their own preheld, biased, uninformed beliefs.

There is no good data to support any stance you take with Covid now. That is one reason why everyone gets so emotional because there is no valid data to back up their argument. There is no argument for current state. Intelligent and informed people should be discussing future state and lessons learned.

Maybe two or three of you have the intelligence and insight enough to understand this. I already admitted to my failure in being able to teach it. Oh, and BTW I did not look up one fucking thing on the Internet to write this. All on the fly. If a couple of you bend a little and realize the futility of your viewpoint then that will be the best for which I can hope, but for now, I am done. If you could grasp what I am teaching you then you would realize it doesn't matter what you believe or think about Covid up until now. Calm down. Relax. Move on or work on improving current state of Covid or the next public health debacle in the Internet Age. I am going back to concentrating on spreading love. Jajajjaja.

I told myself I would never get sucked into this argument, especially in a place like this, but you dragged me out of the piranha pool like a snarling, gnashing Pit Bull. Just like I solved your nagging Supply and Demand quandary, this one is also in the books. QED. Done.

Ostee Out, and as always, Keep On Keepin' On and obviously I love you guys or I wouldn't be doing this. I still owe you a treatise on why Intelligence is counterproductive in the mongering game, jajajajaa. Whut Whut? I might tidy this article up a bit and get it published in a more widespread, general venue. If that happens, I will let you know. But it needs to be professionally edited, first.

[ChuchoLoco]

Lmfao, you're obviously too stupid to understand the full situation. I'm not saying that you're a terrible person but the consequences of the actions you're supporting are terrible.

Yeah, I must be too stupid to understand so explain the full situation and the consequences since you are so smart. By the way, who are you to butt in? The others who responded and who I had addressed my comments to did so in a mature civil manner. Look in the mirror to see who is the stupid one. Keep laughing, it keeps you from talking and you only look like a fool rather than prove it.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Right my bad. It was the Good life, and Felicity Kendal, the real star, was the second winner of rear of the year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear_of_the_Year.

It is amazing that contest is still going on in these days of PC.

Thing about Osteo's proclamation about truth is that you look at all these people who were wrong:

Joe Biden: You're Not Going To Get COVID If You Have These Vaccinations.

Tony Fauci: You Become A Dead End To The Virus.

Rochelle Walensky: "Vaccinated People Do Not Carry The Virus They Don't Get Sick. "

Alberta Bourla: "The COVID-19 vaccine was 100% effective in preventing #COVID19 cases in South Africa. 100%..

Great as if the CCP exporting and flooding the world with slave-made toxic inferior trash isn't bad enough.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/547534-digi...credit-system/

Now there's this.

[Osteoknot]

It's worth pointing out that most of the time, John Wayne Gacy was a decent citizen and member of the community.

OMG, I kid you not one of my best friends in the world, near Chicago. She showed me fotos from her young niece's birthday party, and the clown was John Wayne Gacy. The fotos were just mixed in with all the other fotos, but she knew who it was. Nothing bad happened. Like you said, decent citizen and member of the community.

[Huacho]

I am not saying we should do anything to speed up death for anyone who is at risk. I do not mean to disrespect anyone based on age or health. It is funny to me because it is so glaringly obvious that we cannot control this virus and whether or not we have lockdowns, vaccine mandates, travel restrictions, etc. The same amount of people at this point are going to contract the virus. We might as well preserve our economy and freedom rather than destroy it in the name of politics, shaming, and fear mongering. I feel sorry for those affected by this virus, both young and old. The young losing out on normalcy during childhood and of course the elderly losing out at enjoying their golden years. As I have said before, this virus is a force of nature, it's like trying to control a hurricane, you can't to a certain degree. All you can do is minimize the damage it causes. I didn't need to do 12 hours of reading peer reviewed studies either to come to this conclusion. I am very concerned about real world problems like crime, inflation, and social isolation which is also wreaking havoc across society. Poor have gotten much poorer during this pandemic and it should addressed as much or if not more than vaccine mandates and travel tests for tourists.

I don't see how anyone can say what I wrote is insane, but I am sure haters will come out and spit venom because I am not a sheep in the herd.

You have never been to Colombia based on your posting history. In fact based on your posting history you are a virgin. You probably mostly engage in felching.

[RamDavidson84]

I guess that I am the other end then. I don't put a price on life especially when we waste so much on death. He said let the healthy live. Does that mean anyone who is not healthy whatever that means, should die?

P.S. The USA is Not a democratic country. Democracy is the most over used and incorrectly used word in fashion now. Just go to any " News Channel" and you will hear it over and over.

You guys jump to extreme conclusions so fast. Why would you assume I want unhealthy people to die? This is such a common thing I see about the weirdos who view the vaccines like its 15th century religious sin to always go to extreme lengths to promote the vaccine and shame anyone who doesn't want it mandated. I never said anything close to wanting unhealthy people to die. You make yourself look so biased and unhinged when you attribute views to people that they don't support just to argue your opinion.

Again, just look at the hundreds of thousands of cases a day of covid. Look at the hundreds of thousands of deaths since the 95% effective vaccines have been available. The mandates and restrictions are not going to slow the virus down at this point. The vaccines failed us. We all for the sake of society should be as realistic as possible about this virus and our response. We shouldn't just blindly blame everything on the 8% of people who didn't get the vaccine. That 8% did not make a significant difference. The difference was the vaccines didn't prevent transmission. The vaccines were not 95% effective at stopping death and hospitalization. We cannot control the virus at this point. If you at risk and value your health and safety, you should be social distancing / masking and forcing people to shutdown the economy and socially isolate themselves because we have done that and it doesn't work. It just destroys our economy, our youth's education, and increases crime and mental illness.

And again, I am sure as always, someone will post some idiotic reply how I am a nazi and I want everyone to die because no one can come up with a valid argument to my point. Lets see if there are any intelligent arguments made to my view instead of just shaming and blind loyalty to the "science".

Oh yea, fully vaccinated and boosted here just in case you are wondering.

[RamDavidson84]

MrE often shares useful information. He also often makes up shit because he believes it somehow proves a point. Occasionally, he posts things which are potentially dangerous to others. I have no personal animus against him, only against the bad information and made up stories.

You can substitute any other member of ISG, whose posts I've argued against and it's the same. I have nothing against the individual. It's an anonymous internet message forum. Except for the people I've actually met, I don't try to make up back stories for the other people who post here. I don't care about their politics, religion, eating habits, or how they make or spend their money. Every person on ISG, if they send a message and ask to meet up when I'm in Medellin, I'm happy to go wherever and have a drink with them.

First you're assuming someone who you've never met and know almost nothing about, does nothing to help out others in need, and now you're calling me an idiot because I give too much helping others out? Okay. Settle it for me. Considering my income, my expenses, my available time and all the other factors, how much, in dollars, or as a percentage of either my net, or gross income, is the proper amount I should offer to help others?

Since you're calling people out, who you assume do nothing to help others, how much of your time, energy and money do you give to those in need? How much is too little? How much is too much?..

Look man, I don't want to go back and forth with you all day. In all my life, I have never met a dude who donates 25% of his hard earned cash to charity. Seems really fucking strange to me. If I had to guess, you got to be full of shit and just trying to look noble in a filthy sex mongering forum. But if that's what really lights up your day, giving tens of thousands of dollars to total fucking strangers, then god bless you. You certainly don't need me to tell you what to do with your money.

Paulie has jumped in plenty of time and started shit with me over the vaccine shit. He's a big boy, he can handle it I am sure. Again, your posts are just weird and it bothers me. Are you really going back and reading and counting posts where I attacked people and keeping score? Again, you have way too much time on your hands. For the record, if you do go back and read my posts, I am usually responding to the hate and not starting it.

[Elvis 2008]

I rarely start the bullshit, this time I did because every time I hop on this forum, your posting away tearing into people. You going at Mr. E hard like a weirdo. You did the same to me a few weeks back. You pick out the smallest most insignificant things to criticize people about and its just weird bro. I never spit any false info. Look, the vaccines were not what they were promised to be. That's a simple fact. I am not anti vaccine, as I have stated so many times. I just don't think they should be mandatory and I think the vaccine shaming needs to stop, its not healthy for society. Is that so bad? And if you are still advocating lockdowns and travel restrictions at this point, I think your judgement is very clouded by your bias.

I agree with you Ram. WSJ today said hospitalization rate with omicron per a Kaiser study was 0. 16%. They also quoted an administrator as saying that 80% of people admitted were vaccinated in one health care system. Seeing as how the most vulnerable are the elderly and that they are like 99% vaxxed, that sounds about right to me.

What I have been surprised with in the last week is that it seems like the entertainment class has been unleashed. There was the Kid Rock song, Bill Maher and a guest of his speaking out against the pandemic. His guest said this is a "pandemic of the bureaucrats" and she got thunderous applause from a left leaning audience.

The most bone headed thing I had read recently was forcing truck drivers in North America to be vaccinated in the midst of a supply chain crisis. The Biden administration implemented such a measure and then back tracked on enforcement. Apparently, 40% of truckers are unvaccinated, but Justin Trudeau and Canada did not back down on the vaccine requirement, and a brigade of truckers 43 miles long have driven to Ottawa to protest.

Trudeau left town in a hurry and one Canadian newscaster said the brigade was due to Putin and Russia. Seriously. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...edical-tyranny.

A buddy of mine is in this business, and he has told me that truckers are a different breed, but if they are united and motivated, and they usually are very independent, they could shut down our whole country in 3 days. I wonder how much of Ottawa has been shut down.

There is talk the truckers head to the USA but I am not sure what the exact point would be. Still, it is nice to see some protest over the tyrannical responses we have seen. I was so proud of Colombia for rising up.

This has been the strongest backlash I have seen in North America over Covid, and I think this more than anything might give the bureaucrats pause with their vaccine passports and mandates, but we shall see.

[Huacho]

It goes back to the question of at what cost?

So the way to manage cost is to um manage cost and the powers that were did a terrible job of that. Handing out corrupt contracts, denial is a river in Egypt, mask sourcing fiascos, and so forth. No one is perfect but early mistakes made for political rather than health or cost reasons wasted a lot of money.

If you want a serious discussion about what a human life costs, these are valued in civil courts every day. I disagree with these valuations as they are based on shit like 'future earning potential' which is based on shit like being born rich or white or from a developed country. And your dead ass is worth more if you had kids. Um no it's actually not, in the open market.

All human lives should have equal value. Here is a cynical view point. My guess is that if I make it ten more years, and we look back on this, we will see that COVID disproportionately killed and affected weaker members of society. Old, fat, too poor to get health care, too ignorant to get vaccinated, etc. To me, the true measure of any society is how it treats its weakest members. I did not personally profit from the pandemic but I made it through 2020 without getting laid off and was ready to pack it in anyway. Now I'm in a place I really like, that normally is overrun with tourists, and now is not. The gym used to be really crowded and now it's not. The stock market crashed so I bought my ass off. I was essentially financially unaffected. I did not get COVID so far as I know. I did not suffer financially from COVID. But, emotionally it was a vast wasteland and I think I'm fully recovered from that, but I'll never be sure. Severe lockdowns where I was reminded me of jail and may have scarred me a bit more. I went six months without pussy and had to survive on beer and weed.

TK is not vaxxed and is not worried because he has a healthy immune system or so he thinks, and a good diet. I am not worried because I have a healthy immune system or so I think, and a good diet, and am in A-1 aerobic shape. So if you accept that we are both healthier than average for our unknown ages, it still gets back to asymptomatic transmission being more common in unvaccinated people, making them irresponsible, plus the greater strain those people put on the health care system and thus the sacred economy when they get sick and start blathering about monoclonal antibodies and veterinary medicines. What I would do there is offer to medevac them with a helicopter, make them pay up front, and then toss them out of the helicopter in the finest Argentinean military tradition. Tip: do this over deeper water than those assholes did.

But the virus seems to be attenuating and there is quite a bit of history saying that is what viruses do. I would not be too quick to use that to criticize restrictions because you want to prevent deaths until a virus attenuates, and as we've seen, that takes years.