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  1. #3145
    Quote Originally Posted by Huacho  [View Original Post]
    You sure write like you have six years of education. Seventh grade is 'haaard'. You have to learn the difference between you and you're, and it's and its, all kinds of stuff. I think you have to learn what 'x' is in 2 x + 4 = 6 that year too. You're lucky you quit when you did, because then in 8th grade you have to learn semi-colons.
    Haha, you got me here Huacho. I meant 6 years post high school. Again, I never claimed to be the smartest guy going, but smart enough to realize when I see total bullshit mandates and pointless restrictions.

  2. #3144

    At the other end

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    If you read carefully, he has never said to speed it up.

    The question is at what cost?

    Let's say the correct way is to save live at any cost, forever, do you agree with this position?

    If yes, I think this is at one end of the spectrum of all choices. Some people who don't agree are questioning this single end of spectrum position. I will also add this is an almost impossible choice for a democratic country like US to take if that includes forced quarantine of anyone regardless of the infection status.

    If no, then it seems to me that people share a common ground except numbers are different. It goes back to the question of at what cost?
    I guess that I am the other end then. I don't put a price on life especially when we waste so much on death. He said let the healthy live. Does that mean anyone who is not healthy whatever that means, should die?

    P.S. The USA is Not a democratic country. Democracy is the most over used and incorrectly used word in fashion now. Just go to any " News Channel" and you will hear it over and over.

  3. #3143
    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    I rarely start the bullshit, this time I did because every time I hop on this forum, your posting away tearing into people. You going at Mr. E hard like a weirdo. You did the same to me a few weeks back. You pick out the smallest most insignificant things to criticize people about and its just weird bro. I never spit any false info. Look, the vaccines were not what they were promised to be. That's a simple fact. I am not anti vaccine, as I have stated so many times. I just don't think they should be mandatory and I think the vaccine shaming needs to stop, its not healthy for society. Is that so bad? And if you are still advocating lockdowns and travel restrictions at this point, I think your judgement is very clouded by your bias.
    MrE often shares useful information. He also often makes up shit because he believes it somehow proves a point. Occasionally, he posts things which are potentially dangerous to others. I have no personal animus against him, only against the bad information and made up stories.

    You can substitute any other member of ISG, whose posts I've argued against and it's the same. I have nothing against the individual. It's an anonymous internet message forum. Except for the people I've actually met, I don't try to make up back stories for the other people who post here. I don't care about their politics, religion, eating habits, or how they make or spend their money. Every person on ISG, if they send a message and ask to meet up when I'm in Medellin, I'm happy to go wherever and have a drink with them.

    And if you donating 25% of your income after you pay your income and property tax, then you are an idiot LOL. 25% That's a little excessive man, unless you are making close to half a million a year, and if you are god bless you, but I highly fucking doubt that because it seems you spend way too much time on this forum. If I was making that dough, I certainly wouldn't be wasting a dozen posts a day on this forum like it seems you do.
    First you're assuming someone who you've never met and know almost nothing about, does nothing to help out others in need, and now you're calling me an idiot because I give too much helping others out? Okay. Settle it for me. Considering my income, my expenses, my available time and all the other factors, how much, in dollars, or as a percentage of either my net, or gross income, is the proper amount I should offer to help others?

    Since you're calling people out, who you assume do nothing to help others, how much of your time, energy and money do you give to those in need? How much is too little? How much is too much?

    A dozen posts every day? I've been here for 7 years, with less than 4000 posts. Go ahead and do the math. There probably have been days when I've posted 12 times. At least once I've posted 10, so I assume there have been days with more posts. But every day? Not even close. The average is about 2 per day. At a guess I'd say 3 out of 4 of my posts have been either sharing information, or answering questions. What are your numbers? I took the time to look them up.

    Your post count is 109.59 of your posts are in this thread. Out of your most recent 70 posts, 59 are in this thread. Actually, I believe it's 59 of 62. It's been less than 9 months since your very first post on ISG, well over half of your posts have been attacking others in this thread and you want to judge me on my posting history?

    I am no saint, and I would never claim to be. I do work a full time career helping people daily which required 6 years of education and other credentials as well. I pay my taxes and most of the time I am decent citizen and member of the community. I draw the line right there though, LOL I am definitely not donating 30-40 thousand a year to charity though lololol. Hell no! Love you guys so much, you make me so warm and fuzzy inside, especially T-king Osteo haha.
    Let's look at this one more time.

    1. You start off attacking Paulie (who is generally a decent guy, and occasionally an ass, like just about everyone else) because you believe he's unemployed, uneducated, and does nothing to help others.

    2. You then attack me because I help others too much.

    3. Your justification for both attacks is that you're a "decent citizen and member of the community?" At the same time you strongly suggest that other than being "most of the time a decent citizen and member of the community" you don't do anything else to help others?

    It's worth pointing out that most of the time, John Wayne Gacy was a decent citizen and member of the community.

  4. #3142
    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    I do work a full time career helping people daily which required 6 years of education.
    You sure write like you have six years of education. Seventh grade is 'haaard'. You have to learn the difference between you and you're, and it's and its, all kinds of stuff. I think you have to learn what 'x' is in 2 x + 4 = 6 that year too. You're lucky you quit when you did, because then in 8th grade you have to learn semi-colons.

  5. #3141

    at what cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco  [View Original Post]
    What's so funny? Sure everyone will go sometime but why speed it up? You obviously don't have any elder loved ones. There used to be a saying that the good die young. If that is the case, you should live forever.
    If you read carefully, he has never said to speed it up.

    The question is at what cost?

    Let's say the correct way is to save live at any cost, forever, do you agree with this position?

    If yes, I think this is at one end of the spectrum of all choices. Some people who don't agree are questioning this single end of spectrum position. I will also add this is an almost impossible choice for a democratic country like US to take if that includes forced quarantine of anyone regardless of the infection status.

    If no, then it seems to me that people share a common ground except numbers are different. It goes back to the question of at what cost?

  6. #3140
    Quote Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco  [View Original Post]
    What's so funny? Sure everyone will go sometime but why speed it up? You obviously don't have any elder loved ones. There used to be a saying that the good die young. If that is the case, you should live forever.
    Lmfao, you're obviously too stupid to understand the full situation. I'm not saying that you're a terrible person but the consequences of the actions you're supporting are terrible.

  7. #3139
    Quote Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco  [View Original Post]
    What's so funny? Sure everyone will go sometime but why speed it up? You obviously don't have any elder loved ones. There used to be a saying that the good die young. If that is the case, you should live forever.
    I am not saying we should do anything to speed up death for anyone who is at risk. I do not mean to disrespect anyone based on age or health. It is funny to me because it is so glaringly obvious that we cannot control this virus and whether or not we have lockdowns, vaccine mandates, travel restrictions, etc. The same amount of people at this point are going to contract the virus. We might as well preserve our economy and freedom rather than destroy it in the name of politics, shaming, and fear mongering. I feel sorry for those affected by this virus, both young and old. The young losing out on normalcy during childhood and of course the elderly losing out at enjoying their golden years. As I have said before, this virus is a force of nature, it's like trying to control a hurricane, you can't to a certain degree. All you can do is minimize the damage it causes. I didn't need to do 12 hours of reading peer reviewed studies either to come to this conclusion. I am very concerned about real world problems like crime, inflation, and social isolation which is also wreaking havoc across society. Poor have gotten much poorer during this pandemic and it should addressed as much or if not more than vaccine mandates and travel tests for tourists.

    I don't see how anyone can say what I wrote is insane, but I am sure haters will come out and spit venom because I am not a sheep in the herd.

  8. #3138
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    The Good Life. And the real star of the show wasn't even in those 6 minutes!
    Right my bad. It was the Good life, and Felicity Kendal, the real star, was the second winner of rear of the year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear_of_the_Year.

    It is amazing that contest is still going on in these days of PC.

    Thing about Osteo's proclamation about truth is that you look at all these people who were wrong:

    Joe Biden: You're Not Going To Get COVID If You Have These Vaccinations.

    Tony Fauci: You Become A Dead End To The Virus.

    Rochelle Walensky: "Vaccinated People Do Not Carry The Virus They Don't Get Sick. "

    Alberta Bourla: "The COVID-19 vaccine was 100% effective in preventing #COVID19 cases in South Africa. 100%.

    Bill Gates: "A key goal of the vaccination program is to stop transmission. "

    Rachel Maddow: "Now we know that the virus stops with every vaccinated person. "

    Francis Collins: "'Reason to be pretty optimistic' that the available COVID-19 vaccines will be effective against the new Omicron variant of the virus; All of the other variants that have emerged during this COVID-19 pandemic have shown response to the vaccine, including Delta.

    Brian Stelter: "The newspaper USA Today describes 'America's fourth Covid-19 surge,' noting this 'didn't have to happen,' since vaccinations are so widely available. The headlines are followed by a call to action: 'Let's end it now. '

    Then you have this jewel from Adam Carolla: "You closed the beaches down, you closed the schools down, cloth masks were going to save us all, the vaccine was going to be effective, natural immunity wasn't effective what have you been right about?

    The comedian then asserted that he would be confident in putting Joe Rogan's batting average up against CNN's batting average "any day of the week," referring to CNN's infamous dismissal of Ivermectin as horse dewormer.

    The irony about that is we have had people here saying, "Well, you know, the lockdowns / vaccines / whatever were never predicted to get rid of Covid. "

    Of course, it is not Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is just allowing doctors like Dr. Malone and McCollough, who IMO have been way closer to the truth than anyone else, to be allowed to speak because censorship has been off the chain.

    I myself did not see the waves every 3 months coming with Corona (not sure who did though) and have kicked myself for not being educated on the natural history of viruses. So I made a decision on being vaccinated without knowing all that I should have. Still, I am not sure had I known I would have done anything different. As I said, my choice in getting vaccinated a second time was purely political, and the notion that my getting vaxxed gives me any kind of superior standing, as so many others think, is IMO moronic.

    From a health POV, the notion that being vaxxed puts you medically in a better place is a dubious claim. But from a political POV and the ability to travel, the risk of being unvaccinated is there and seemingly getting worse by the day.

    But to have a guy run out and catch Covid and then gets vaccinated after getting sick and thinks he knows all about the virus? That is too much to take.

    That overconfidence, the giraffe I referred to, has been mapped out by Dunning and Kruger.

    I like the graph here and maybe you can agree or disagree if we have someone looking down from Mount Stupid: https://understandinginnovation.blog...in-innovation/.

    And then you have the wonderful article here upon which the graph was based: https://josephparis.me/my-articles/l...rom-mt-stupid/.

  9. #3137
    Quote Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco  [View Original Post]
    What's so funny? Sure everyone will go sometime but why speed it up? You obviously don't have any elder loved ones. There used to be a saying that the good die young. If that is the case, you should live forever.
    I never accept that I am old. But if I live much longer, I can't pretend for many more years. BUt one thing is for sure. I certainly would not be so selfish as to ruin children's education, and to impose on the every day freedoms that younger people should have, just bcos I were be at a higher risk. That would be smthg that I must manage, not expect everyone else to suffer for.

  10. #3136

    You will live forever

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Old people die Huacho LOL. It's part of life. You can't make all of society suffer for a virus we haven't been able to control for over 2 years. At this point anyone advocating for vaccine mandates or crazy restrictions is not thinking clearly and following the "science". Even besides the "science", the people have spoke, no one gives a fuck anymore. Let people live while they are healthy and if you are at risk, you should be the one quarantining. Not shutting society down for people who are on their death beds anyway.
    What's so funny? Sure everyone will go sometime but why speed it up? You obviously don't have any elder loved ones. There used to be a saying that the good die young. If that is the case, you should live forever.

  11. #3135

    Measurable vs not measurable

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Please explain what was crazy about my rant..
    I associate them together, it is my read, don't know what he meant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    ... I see (of the many) argued here about Covid is that people confuse population health with individual health.

    ... The only recent post that came close was RamsButt or whatever his name is, his insane sounding rant was actually closer to the truth than anyone has acknowledged ...
    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Old people die Huacho LOL. It's part of life. You can't make all of society suffer for a virus we haven't been able to control for over 2 years...

  12. #3134

    Good advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    LOL. I should have done the cliff notes version. Yeah, I agree you are protected from getting Covid from someone else. Do not worry about travel insurance, a booster, or anything Covid related and have a great time.
    I will try like hell. Have succeeded so far. First time was in '73. Man was it different. Then. So much smaller and Parque Bolivar was the place to hangout especially at night. I just drive through in a taxi now just to see From Dusk till Dawn in person, hahahah. Thanks for the positive send off.

  13. #3133
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    There was this wonderful British TV comedy called the Simple Life.
    The Good Life. And the real star of the show wasn't even in those 6 minutes!

  14. #3132

    Yin and Yang

    Null and Void. Frick and Frack. Klackkity Klack. Poetry. ISG at the same time becomes the most meaningless and important construct in my life. Go figure.

  15. #3131
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    One common error I see (of the many) argued here about Covid is that people confuse population health with individual health, or probably even more, don't understand the difference or even know there is a difference.

    I won't respond directly to anyone's post about this, there is not one person taking an overall cohesive overall stance on this topic. The only recent post that came close was RamsButt or whatever his name is, his insane sounding rant was actually closer to the truth than anyone has acknowledged, but I think he is basing that on intuition and not knowledge, which is okay.

    You are all a pack of rabid Pit Bulls who jumped into a pool of jungle piranha, and you don't know what you don't know.

    Carry on like I know you will. Geez.
    I know most people do not click on links, but this post above is what I like to call a giraffe. There was this wonderful British TV comedy called the Simple Life, and if you watch here from the 8:08 mark to about the 14 minute mark, you will see what I mean by the term giraffe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RPLX9w2d5E.

    Bonus points if you can pick out which of the three men is Osteo.

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