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01-05-22 01:56 #2809
Posts: 649Solo
Originally Posted by CaptainSolo [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 18:32 #2808
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
The purpose of a Covid vaccine is to reduce death and serious illness from Covid. It is not supposed to prevent death from all causes. This is the same purpose as the "herd immunity" that anti-vax groups are touting. The only major difference is that vaccines try to get to an immune population while minimizing the serious negative outcomes. Just letting the disease run its course, considers the lives lost as acceptable.
When I look at claims that the vaccines are causing more deaths and illnesses than the disease, I have to only look at the facts. The best part, I don't have to depend on some pharmaceutical company (or some conspiracy theorist nut job) to give me the facts. I can just open my eyes and take a look around.
Unvaccinated, I knew, 1st person 2 people who died from Covid. I knew 2nd person (I knew someone who directly knew them) at least 30 people who died from Covid. 1st person I know at least 20 people who were hospitalized for Covid.
Vaccinated, I know 2 people who were hospitalized for Covid (1st person), no deaths 1st, 2nd or 3rd person.
Serious side effects from the vaccine, at a guess, I know 400 people who are vaccinated. One person reported feeling sick for 2 days. None required medical treatment. A few reported feeling sick for 1 day. Most mentioned pain at the injection site.
In addition, my first 2 doses of the vaccine I received at a clinic setup by a major hospital. They had 7 stations setup to check people in and at least 12 vaccination stations. Each station was vaccinating about 1 person every 2 minutes. After vaccination they requested everyone stay for 15 minutes. Roughly, each shot, I observed 150-200 people who had just been vaccinated. If the vaccine is causing serious side effects and death, I should have seen some indication. However, there was nothing whatsoever to indicate serious adverse reactions were occurring, or were expected. Add in the experience of all the vaccinated people I know and the group has easily, directly observed over 50,000 vaccinations without seeing any medical emergency caused by the vaccine. At least 1 of the vaccinated people I know is 95 years old and in poor health.
It's easy to make a video and claim it shows something. If you recall, several years ago a group made a video supposedly showing Planned Parenthood selling aborted fetuses. The people who made the video ended up in prison. If you want, I know a guy, for a price he can put together a video which shows anything you want. Anything.
Sadly, there are a lot of people who won't question something they see in a video, or hear on a podcast. They will completely ignore the reality right in front of their face, in favor of a fantasy presented by an anonymous stranger.
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01-04-22 16:03 #2807
Posts: 1283Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
First, you start just as predicted: smear the source. 'They don't name a single expert'. Yet, had they, their credentials would be in dispute. Instead, they use Pfizer's data.
What your response does prove is your mind is made up. That's not a criticism, per se. But don't act as though you looked at this objectively. Comments like: "Pfizer study shows the vaccine causes more illness and death than it prevents. OMG! Alert the media!" So, if that isn't concerning, then don't talk about Grandma sitting at home with COPD. Both groups are just collateral damage in your line of thought.
You misrepresent the safey phase. The standard is 3 years (not 5-10 as you say). But we had 2 months of safety. Say what you will about circumstances and the urgent need to get to market. But don't tell me that the concern is invalid or that the point is BS.
You conpletely ignore the relative vs absolute argument. You accept the relative risk reduction as fact, despite it being the lower standard. And I won't even mention how Pfizer bastardizes their "efficacy" numbers to the public. In Pfizer's own study, the absolute reduction is 1%, and that's rounding up! They are taking their relative number and selling it as absolute. And the public is too lazy to know the difference.
Here is another example of your closed mind: "Sounds serious, except saline solution is easily absorbed without problems. Whereas the vaccine is supposed to cause an immune system response. " I would not argue with your statement. But, um, how else would you measure impact? LOL instead, you excuse this as expected, necessary problem. That illustrates your willingness to excuse or accept more collateral damage.
I could go on, but why. Arguing this is boring. Sadly, most of us have retreated into our camps and prefer name calling, accusations and warfare instead of thinking for and educating ourselves. Full disclosure: I'm not anti-vax. I've been vaxxed and boosted. I am anti-mandate. And I am heavily in favor of holding our "experts" responsible for their actions, decisions, and conflicts of interest.
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01-04-22 16:03 #2806
Posts: 35Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 15:37 #2805
Posts: 1283Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
The incidence and rate of respiratory issues are alarming.
The forever shutdown crowd cannot dispute this because this only uses Pfizer's own data.
As for Malone, he is not anti-vax by definition. He made some great points, as have others, about our approach to vaccines. As Americans, and other highly developed countries, we're now on our 3rd and 4th doses. We're now at the point of hurting our immune system, as many experts now say. And given omicron's mild symptoms, we're also suppressing the benefit of natural immunity.
But for those lining up for your 10th jab and hug your face diapers, tell me how that's working for New York. Then think big picture. Omicron came from South Africa. There's another new variant now from Cameroon. This obsession with vaccination, or the concept of a pandemic of the unvaxxed, is actually prolonging the problem.
I've said it from day 1. You know, when Fauci told us to wear masks for 2 weeks to slow the spread. We're now more than 660 days into those 2 weeks! But why do we cling to it? We have an inherent need to feel in control. News flash: you aren't. Nature will do what nature does. Our vax approach is now going to cause unintended consequences.
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01-04-22 11:09 #2804
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
One quick example is "Let's hear all the baseless smears now. " This is a gem, since you've repeatedly mentioned that anyone who consistently disagrees with you gets put on ignore. You can't hear what you refuse to listen to.
With this one, the irony goes deeper. Canadian Covid Care Alliance, according to their Instagram account provides "Independent, science based evidence to empower Canadians. " However, the only thing on the Instagram feed are anti-vax memes, with no supporting evidence. There's nothing to identify, or provide credentials for any "member" of the Canadian Covid Care Alliance. It is not registered in any way. It's simply an anonymous Twitter and Instagram account and a website.
Which brings us to the irony trifecta. The CCCA doesn't identify a single "expert" who provides "independent, science based evidence" for them. Which, and this bit is hilarious" makes everything they publish (drumroll please) Baseless.
It gets better. Clicking on the link provided takes you to a click bait news blurb, with a link to the CCCA website and a pdf presentation which is supposed to prove the CCCA claim that the Pfizer study shows the vaccine causes more illness and death than it prevents. OMG! Alert the media! Oops. I forgot that the media is all part of the conspiracy. Instead we'll just have to look at the "facts" presented by the CCCA.
One of their first complaints is there was no long term safety data in the 2 month report. No kidding? Huh? That's shocking. It's just completely irresponsible that they didn't provide 5-10 years of safety data for a vaccine that had only been available for testing on human subjects for a few months.
If you're keeping score, that's one BB (baseless bullshit) point against the CCCA.
Next up, a significant increase in illness from the vaccine compared to the placebo (a simple saline solution), of the illness the vaccine was supposed to prevent. The Pfizer study identified 4 types of adverse events: Efficacy, Related Adverse Events, Any Serious Adverse Event and Any Serious Adverse Event requiring ER visit or hospitalization.
Efficacy is protection against Covid. Of the test group, 850 people who received the placebo got Covid, compared to 77 who received the vaccine, a 91% reduction in the disease the vaccine was supposed to prevent. That's another BB point for the CCCA.
Before looking at the other 3 classifications of adverse events, it's worth pointing out that injecting a simple saline solution has almost no risk of an adverse event. It should also be noted that the most common adverse event was pain at the injection site.
Roughly 1 in 4 people who took the vaccine had a related adverse effects, compared to 1 in 20 for the placebo. Sounds serious, except saline solution is easily absorbed without problems. Whereas the vaccine is supposed to cause an immune system response. That means more people are going to experience pain or nausea with the vaccine.
When you get to the serious adverse effects, about 1. 2% of vaccine recipients had an issue which interfered with normal function, compared with 0. 7% of those receiving the placebo. Slightly less than 0. 6% receiving the placebo required medical treatment, compared to 0. 6% in the vaccine group.
So, the placebo group was much less likely to have a minor issue, but almost as likely to have an adverse effect requiring medical treatment. However, they were much more likely to get Covid. That's 3 BB points.
Next up, increased deaths for vaccine recipients. The vaccine group reported 14 deaths within 6 months of the trial, compared to 14 deaths in the placebo group. This might be confusing. There are 17 reported causes of death for the 15 from the vaccine group and 19 for the 14 in the placebo group.
There were only 2 deaths from Covid, both in the placebo group and 1 death from Covid pneumonia in the vaccine group. None of the other deaths are directly attributed to the vaccine. So this adds another BB point to the CCCA claim.
Next on the agenda, Pfizer didn't follow established protocol. Established protocol says that it should take 5-10 years to develop a vaccine. Anyone who wasn't in a coma for all of 2020 understands that 5 years or more to develop a vaccine was unacceptable. Are we up to 5 BB points already?
Next bit of baseless bullshit, study demographics. According to the CCCA, a study should be focused on the people who could most benefit from a vaccine. This one is worth 2 BB points. If you run a try limited to people with 4 risk factors who are all over 75, most of your data is useless. The likelihood of a member of that group to die is much higher than for the general population. A vaccine doesn't do much good for someone who is already dying. You don't test your new recipe for triple fudge brownies on a bunch of diabetics. People of any age can get Covid. The proper demographics requires a test group representative of the entire population.
There's an additional demographic complaint. Groups, such as breastfeeding women, pregnant women, people with prior exposure to Covid, immunocompromised people, people with psychiatric conditions and others. There's ethical issues for testing on pregnant women or breast feeding women. People who have previously had Covid would skew the result. People with serious medical conditions are also not good subjects.
There's more of the same. I'm too tired to read through a baseless smear campaign, so I can spread some based smears.
However the CCCA Claim is a baseless smear campaign already.
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01-04-22 09:51 #2803
Posts: 3205Originally Posted by Dcrist0527 [View Original Post]
We vaccinate 70% of the country, and the number of people dying from Covid related illnesses goes up about 50% in 2021.
The study predicted this was going to happen.
So why is that? Then you read this, Maddie de Garay is a 12 year old trial participant who developed a serious reaction after her second dose and was hospitalized within 24 hours. Maddie developed gastroparesis, nausea and vomiting, erratic blood pressure, memory loss, brain fog, headaches, dizziness, fainting, seizures, verbal and motor tics, menstrual cycle issues, lost feeling from the waist down, lost bowel and bladder control and had an nasogastric tube placed because she lost her ability to eat. She has been hospitalized many times, and for the past 10 months she has been wheelchair bound and fed via tube. In their report to the FDA, Pfizer described her injuries as "functional abdominal pain".
And her side effects were excluded from the trial!
So yeah, Covid deaths may go down if you get the vaccine but so what? If the overall death rate goes up if you take the vaccine or you end up like this girl, why in the hell would anyone take the vaccine let alone mandate it?
The vaccine is only approved for emergencies anyway.
So Dr. Malone posts this information and he is banned from Twitter? That certainly is not for public health reasons, and the fact that he is banned from all media centers and has to go on Joe Rogin's show tells you all you need to know about the legacy media.
When you ban opposing points of view, you are no longer talking about science. You are talking about religion, and Dr. Malone is right about this. It is a mass psychosis event.
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01-04-22 08:01 #2802
Posts: 6513Villainy,
I said I was disappointed by the large, lumpy, tattooed, pear-shaped women with huge fake boobs and fake butts at P Lleras, New Life Casa and La Isla. The quality of talents at these mongers' venues are way below Tijuana, various places in Europe and Asia.
I did not generalize that all Colombian women were fat and ugly, but I was watching hundreds young women leaving work at SantaFe mall everyday, did not find even one I would get romantically involved with. The same as with shoppers in Santa Fe mall. Majority is pudgy with big asses and pear-shaped bodies like the women in this random pic taken at the Technologie park.
Every country has its beautiful women. Not all can be ugly. However the main focus should not be on just a few beauty queens but how many percent of the women population look nice, trim, fit, healthy, attractive vs. The heavy, obese, lumpy, sick, unattractive ones. For this criterion, Buenos Aires has far higher percentage of beautiful women walking on the streets than Colombia.
If you go to any beaches in Southern California on weekends, you will see the highest percentage of nice, trim, healthy, beautiful girls in swim suits.
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01-04-22 07:13 #2801
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
If you name any specific activity, I probably can direct you to an excellent destination within the US. However, this is a monger forum, so choosing a superior destination ignoring sex wouldn't make sense.
I know there are many who consider Sao Paulo and Rio as superior destinations, but, at least for me, Medellin has some advantages. First there's the flight. It would take me twice as long and cost 3 times as much to go to Brazil. Then there's the language barrier. My Spanish is good enough to get by in Spanish speaking countries.
I'm sure there are great destinations in SE Asia, but there's also the time and cost factor. Eastern Europe has the same drawbacks.
Your opinion is one I highly respect on ISG, mainly because you try everything and give an honest opinion. In your opinion, considering all the factors, including sex, what destination is significantly better than Medellin?
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01-04-22 05:58 #2800
Posts: 15908Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 05:51 #2799
Posts: 1056Colombian Coffee IS not This Expresso Shit
The best in the world. Colombia is the world's third biggest producer, after Vietnam and Brazil. Not only is Colombian coffee's region a world and EU heritage site but its arabica bean is the benchmark on US futures markets against which all others are measured (like Maine potatoes, Brent Crude, Texas Lite etc).
Expresso: A sure sign there is no hope for the USA. Arab princes pay fortunes for tea, depending on rain fall, wind direction and a ton more. Coffee is similar, even if Americans just drink shit swept up in the favelas of Rio and São Paulo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUKJWsnAAXs
Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 05:46 #2798
Posts: 2920Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 05:36 #2797
Posts: 2920Originally Posted by Villainy [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 05:33 #2796
Posts: 1770CanadianCovidCareAlliance
This is a superb analysis of huge faults in the self sponsored Pfizer vaccine research.
https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer...than-good.html
I wonder if this will ever be heard in the public sphere?
Let's hear all the baseless smears now.
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01-04-22 04:47 #2795
Posts: 1770Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Am going to watch this Canadian Pfirr debunk now.
The world has gone bat shit crazy, and the conservatives that rule the world are trying to brainwash everyone thru thought control via the media and media shutdown. It could not be any clearer that this is not left v right. This is authoritarians vs libertarians. And the governments are pulling the the strings and the sheeple have been propgandized by fear. It is going to be very difficult to walk back from this point. They have broken so many rules on trust, law, morality, honesty, freedoms. George Orwell wrote about this. But people laugh it off as if it is pure fantasy, but it should be a nervous laughter. Bcos it is very real and among us now.