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01-04-22 16:03 #2806
Posts: 1283Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
First, you start just as predicted: smear the source. 'They don't name a single expert'. Yet, had they, their credentials would be in dispute. Instead, they use Pfizer's data.
What your response does prove is your mind is made up. That's not a criticism, per se. But don't act as though you looked at this objectively. Comments like: "Pfizer study shows the vaccine causes more illness and death than it prevents. OMG! Alert the media!" So, if that isn't concerning, then don't talk about Grandma sitting at home with COPD. Both groups are just collateral damage in your line of thought.
You misrepresent the safey phase. The standard is 3 years (not 5-10 as you say). But we had 2 months of safety. Say what you will about circumstances and the urgent need to get to market. But don't tell me that the concern is invalid or that the point is BS.
You conpletely ignore the relative vs absolute argument. You accept the relative risk reduction as fact, despite it being the lower standard. And I won't even mention how Pfizer bastardizes their "efficacy" numbers to the public. In Pfizer's own study, the absolute reduction is 1%, and that's rounding up! They are taking their relative number and selling it as absolute. And the public is too lazy to know the difference.
Here is another example of your closed mind: "Sounds serious, except saline solution is easily absorbed without problems. Whereas the vaccine is supposed to cause an immune system response. " I would not argue with your statement. But, um, how else would you measure impact? LOL instead, you excuse this as expected, necessary problem. That illustrates your willingness to excuse or accept more collateral damage.
I could go on, but why. Arguing this is boring. Sadly, most of us have retreated into our camps and prefer name calling, accusations and warfare instead of thinking for and educating ourselves. Full disclosure: I'm not anti-vax. I've been vaxxed and boosted. I am anti-mandate. And I am heavily in favor of holding our "experts" responsible for their actions, decisions, and conflicts of interest.
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01-04-22 16:03 #2805
Posts: 35Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 15:37 #2804
Posts: 1283Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
The incidence and rate of respiratory issues are alarming.
The forever shutdown crowd cannot dispute this because this only uses Pfizer's own data.
As for Malone, he is not anti-vax by definition. He made some great points, as have others, about our approach to vaccines. As Americans, and other highly developed countries, we're now on our 3rd and 4th doses. We're now at the point of hurting our immune system, as many experts now say. And given omicron's mild symptoms, we're also suppressing the benefit of natural immunity.
But for those lining up for your 10th jab and hug your face diapers, tell me how that's working for New York. Then think big picture. Omicron came from South Africa. There's another new variant now from Cameroon. This obsession with vaccination, or the concept of a pandemic of the unvaxxed, is actually prolonging the problem.
I've said it from day 1. You know, when Fauci told us to wear masks for 2 weeks to slow the spread. We're now more than 660 days into those 2 weeks! But why do we cling to it? We have an inherent need to feel in control. News flash: you aren't. Nature will do what nature does. Our vax approach is now going to cause unintended consequences.
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01-04-22 11:09 #2803
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
One quick example is "Let's hear all the baseless smears now. " This is a gem, since you've repeatedly mentioned that anyone who consistently disagrees with you gets put on ignore. You can't hear what you refuse to listen to.
With this one, the irony goes deeper. Canadian Covid Care Alliance, according to their Instagram account provides "Independent, science based evidence to empower Canadians. " However, the only thing on the Instagram feed are anti-vax memes, with no supporting evidence. There's nothing to identify, or provide credentials for any "member" of the Canadian Covid Care Alliance. It is not registered in any way. It's simply an anonymous Twitter and Instagram account and a website.
Which brings us to the irony trifecta. The CCCA doesn't identify a single "expert" who provides "independent, science based evidence" for them. Which, and this bit is hilarious" makes everything they publish (drumroll please) Baseless.
It gets better. Clicking on the link provided takes you to a click bait news blurb, with a link to the CCCA website and a pdf presentation which is supposed to prove the CCCA claim that the Pfizer study shows the vaccine causes more illness and death than it prevents. OMG! Alert the media! Oops. I forgot that the media is all part of the conspiracy. Instead we'll just have to look at the "facts" presented by the CCCA.
One of their first complaints is there was no long term safety data in the 2 month report. No kidding? Huh? That's shocking. It's just completely irresponsible that they didn't provide 5-10 years of safety data for a vaccine that had only been available for testing on human subjects for a few months.
If you're keeping score, that's one BB (baseless bullshit) point against the CCCA.
Next up, a significant increase in illness from the vaccine compared to the placebo (a simple saline solution), of the illness the vaccine was supposed to prevent. The Pfizer study identified 4 types of adverse events: Efficacy, Related Adverse Events, Any Serious Adverse Event and Any Serious Adverse Event requiring ER visit or hospitalization.
Efficacy is protection against Covid. Of the test group, 850 people who received the placebo got Covid, compared to 77 who received the vaccine, a 91% reduction in the disease the vaccine was supposed to prevent. That's another BB point for the CCCA.
Before looking at the other 3 classifications of adverse events, it's worth pointing out that injecting a simple saline solution has almost no risk of an adverse event. It should also be noted that the most common adverse event was pain at the injection site.
Roughly 1 in 4 people who took the vaccine had a related adverse effects, compared to 1 in 20 for the placebo. Sounds serious, except saline solution is easily absorbed without problems. Whereas the vaccine is supposed to cause an immune system response. That means more people are going to experience pain or nausea with the vaccine.
When you get to the serious adverse effects, about 1. 2% of vaccine recipients had an issue which interfered with normal function, compared with 0. 7% of those receiving the placebo. Slightly less than 0. 6% receiving the placebo required medical treatment, compared to 0. 6% in the vaccine group.
So, the placebo group was much less likely to have a minor issue, but almost as likely to have an adverse effect requiring medical treatment. However, they were much more likely to get Covid. That's 3 BB points.
Next up, increased deaths for vaccine recipients. The vaccine group reported 14 deaths within 6 months of the trial, compared to 14 deaths in the placebo group. This might be confusing. There are 17 reported causes of death for the 15 from the vaccine group and 19 for the 14 in the placebo group.
There were only 2 deaths from Covid, both in the placebo group and 1 death from Covid pneumonia in the vaccine group. None of the other deaths are directly attributed to the vaccine. So this adds another BB point to the CCCA claim.
Next on the agenda, Pfizer didn't follow established protocol. Established protocol says that it should take 5-10 years to develop a vaccine. Anyone who wasn't in a coma for all of 2020 understands that 5 years or more to develop a vaccine was unacceptable. Are we up to 5 BB points already?
Next bit of baseless bullshit, study demographics. According to the CCCA, a study should be focused on the people who could most benefit from a vaccine. This one is worth 2 BB points. If you run a try limited to people with 4 risk factors who are all over 75, most of your data is useless. The likelihood of a member of that group to die is much higher than for the general population. A vaccine doesn't do much good for someone who is already dying. You don't test your new recipe for triple fudge brownies on a bunch of diabetics. People of any age can get Covid. The proper demographics requires a test group representative of the entire population.
There's an additional demographic complaint. Groups, such as breastfeeding women, pregnant women, people with prior exposure to Covid, immunocompromised people, people with psychiatric conditions and others. There's ethical issues for testing on pregnant women or breast feeding women. People who have previously had Covid would skew the result. People with serious medical conditions are also not good subjects.
There's more of the same. I'm too tired to read through a baseless smear campaign, so I can spread some based smears.
However the CCCA Claim is a baseless smear campaign already.
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01-04-22 09:51 #2802
Posts: 3215Originally Posted by Dcrist0527 [View Original Post]
We vaccinate 70% of the country, and the number of people dying from Covid related illnesses goes up about 50% in 2021.
The study predicted this was going to happen.
So why is that? Then you read this, Maddie de Garay is a 12 year old trial participant who developed a serious reaction after her second dose and was hospitalized within 24 hours. Maddie developed gastroparesis, nausea and vomiting, erratic blood pressure, memory loss, brain fog, headaches, dizziness, fainting, seizures, verbal and motor tics, menstrual cycle issues, lost feeling from the waist down, lost bowel and bladder control and had an nasogastric tube placed because she lost her ability to eat. She has been hospitalized many times, and for the past 10 months she has been wheelchair bound and fed via tube. In their report to the FDA, Pfizer described her injuries as "functional abdominal pain".
And her side effects were excluded from the trial!
So yeah, Covid deaths may go down if you get the vaccine but so what? If the overall death rate goes up if you take the vaccine or you end up like this girl, why in the hell would anyone take the vaccine let alone mandate it?
The vaccine is only approved for emergencies anyway.
So Dr. Malone posts this information and he is banned from Twitter? That certainly is not for public health reasons, and the fact that he is banned from all media centers and has to go on Joe Rogin's show tells you all you need to know about the legacy media.
When you ban opposing points of view, you are no longer talking about science. You are talking about religion, and Dr. Malone is right about this. It is a mass psychosis event.
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01-04-22 08:01 #2801
Posts: 6517Villainy,
I said I was disappointed by the large, lumpy, tattooed, pear-shaped women with huge fake boobs and fake butts at P Lleras, New Life Casa and La Isla. The quality of talents at these mongers' venues are way below Tijuana, various places in Europe and Asia.
I did not generalize that all Colombian women were fat and ugly, but I was watching hundreds young women leaving work at SantaFe mall everyday, did not find even one I would get romantically involved with. The same as with shoppers in Santa Fe mall. Majority is pudgy with big asses and pear-shaped bodies like the women in this random pic taken at the Technologie park.
Every country has its beautiful women. Not all can be ugly. However the main focus should not be on just a few beauty queens but how many percent of the women population look nice, trim, fit, healthy, attractive vs. The heavy, obese, lumpy, sick, unattractive ones. For this criterion, Buenos Aires has far higher percentage of beautiful women walking on the streets than Colombia.
If you go to any beaches in Southern California on weekends, you will see the highest percentage of nice, trim, healthy, beautiful girls in swim suits.
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01-04-22 07:13 #2800
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
If you name any specific activity, I probably can direct you to an excellent destination within the US. However, this is a monger forum, so choosing a superior destination ignoring sex wouldn't make sense.
I know there are many who consider Sao Paulo and Rio as superior destinations, but, at least for me, Medellin has some advantages. First there's the flight. It would take me twice as long and cost 3 times as much to go to Brazil. Then there's the language barrier. My Spanish is good enough to get by in Spanish speaking countries.
I'm sure there are great destinations in SE Asia, but there's also the time and cost factor. Eastern Europe has the same drawbacks.
Your opinion is one I highly respect on ISG, mainly because you try everything and give an honest opinion. In your opinion, considering all the factors, including sex, what destination is significantly better than Medellin?
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01-04-22 05:58 #2799
Posts: 15908Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 05:51 #2798
Posts: 1056Colombian Coffee IS not This Expresso Shit
The best in the world. Colombia is the world's third biggest producer, after Vietnam and Brazil. Not only is Colombian coffee's region a world and EU heritage site but its arabica bean is the benchmark on US futures markets against which all others are measured (like Maine potatoes, Brent Crude, Texas Lite etc).
Expresso: A sure sign there is no hope for the USA. Arab princes pay fortunes for tea, depending on rain fall, wind direction and a ton more. Coffee is similar, even if Americans just drink shit swept up in the favelas of Rio and São Paulo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUKJWsnAAXs
Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 05:46 #2797
Posts: 2922Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 05:36 #2796
Posts: 2922Originally Posted by Villainy [View Original Post]
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01-04-22 05:33 #2795
Posts: 1775CanadianCovidCareAlliance
This is a superb analysis of huge faults in the self sponsored Pfizer vaccine research.
https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer...than-good.html
I wonder if this will ever be heard in the public sphere?
Let's hear all the baseless smears now.
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01-04-22 04:47 #2794
Posts: 1775Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Am going to watch this Canadian Pfirr debunk now.
The world has gone bat shit crazy, and the conservatives that rule the world are trying to brainwash everyone thru thought control via the media and media shutdown. It could not be any clearer that this is not left v right. This is authoritarians vs libertarians. And the governments are pulling the the strings and the sheeple have been propgandized by fear. It is going to be very difficult to walk back from this point. They have broken so many rules on trust, law, morality, honesty, freedoms. George Orwell wrote about this. But people laugh it off as if it is pure fantasy, but it should be a nervous laughter. Bcos it is very real and among us now.
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01-04-22 03:43 #2793
Posts: 650Medellin Information
Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
People are passionate about their soccer in South America and attending games is inexpensive and exciting (and I'm not a big fan of soccer).
Colombia due to its location has a growing season that lasts year round. You can get the best and freshest fruits and vegetables here at very inexpensive prices. There are fruits and vegetables that are completely unknown in the US (or Europe). In addition because agriculture is so bountiful, stores don't use preservatives or artificial chemicals in order to extend the shelf life a few more weeks. Here if the fruits or vegetables start to look the least bit stale they replace them with freshly picked produce.
The coffee here is arguably the best in the world. The US frequently buys Colombian coffee (and from other countries as well) but here the coffee is made from beans that have been picked very recently and have not been sitting in burlap sacks in a warehouse for weeks / months until needed.
Medellin is the most modern city in Colombia with an extensive Metro system which is always being improved and expanded. The buses are inexpensive (just a hair over 50 cents) what is unique is that you don't have to find a bus stop. Wave at a bus as it approaches and the driver will pull over and let you on. And once on, you press a button and the driver will promptly pull over and let you off.
The health care system in Colombia is very good and Medellin specifically has several of the highest rated hospitals in all of South America. Your Medicare won't work here but health insurance as a foreigner is not very expensive and the prescriptions are very cheap. (You see, their healthcare systems negotiate prices with the pharmaceutical companies, something that Medicare isn't allowed to do in the US) If you don't want to wait for an appointment or you want to see a specialist it won't cost you a testicle. Also there are a large number of Dentists here in Medellin (and throughout Colombia) and a fair percentage of them learned their trade in the US. Even so, I have spoken to many extranjeros from the US that have come here for a vacation and to have dental work done. The rates are less than the deductibles you would pay in many areas of the US (and that assumes you have a highly rated medical plan that includes dental).
I could go on and on. But let me address one comment that CaptainSolo has made several times. The women in Colombia are easily among the most beautiful in the world. Perhaps, CaptainSolo picked a bad time to come to Colombia. The second half of December is very slow. Many women have saved their money and bought presents for their families and aren't "available" the second half of the month. Or maybe the Captain got his bearings wrong and didn't find the right places to find his companions. I just can't say. But there is a reason that the Miss Universe contest has a Colombian or Venezuelan woman in the top 5 almost every single year. Colombian women are stunning and are very highly focused on their appearance.
I've also had acquaintances tell me they have been going to Panama or Costa Rica for years. But they started coming here becase the best looking women in P & CR were Colombianas doing working vacations.
I might also mention that sexual customs here are much more relaxed compared to the Puritan customs in the US. Here if a woman goes on a date with you to a restaurant (you'll need to speak Spanish. Google translate won't cut it) but then if she accepts another date. Well that pretty much means you are headed to a bedroom.
In my estimation Medellin can't be beat. But that assumes you've read the forum and know what you are doing and how to get around. Having at least some degree of fluidity in Spanish will make a significant difference.
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01-04-22 01:30 #2792
Posts: 1283Originally Posted by Villainy [View Original Post]
So, for those that want actual fact, I'd encourage you to watch the presentation that got Dr. Malone banned. It is eye opening. And scary. And before anyone slams the source, just know that what they exposed was produced by Pfizer. Their own studies! It is fairly easily found. Produced by a group called the Canadian COVID Care Alliance.
Again, believe what you want to believe. But if you look at Pfizer's own study, which they expose, and you don't come away alarmed? Well, then you are exactly the person Pfizer is counting on.