Stupid shit in Medellin

[MarquisdeSade1]

Sorry to quote myself, but this story is now even more funny now, and the media reaction is precious to it as well.

First off, Kyrie Irving, who refused to be vaccinated, was not allowed to play for his NBA team, the Brooklyn Nets. The media lined up and just blasted this guy saying he should get the vaccine, he didn't care enough, was not a team player, and all the usual antivaxx shaming rhetoric.

But it turns out the fully vaccinated Nets have a problem. Nearly half their team, 7 of 15, the part of the team that was vaccinated, is in Covid protocols now https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/brookl...ry?id=81755847.

Then I watch this video on ESPN and Mike Wilbon, whom I like, asks the question, How will Irving be received in the locker room? http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=32891275.

I was just shaking my head, such a media reaction. People make decisions based on what is going around them. If half my teammates got vaccinated and tested + for Covid and I saw soccer players who were vaxxed dropping like flies, I would say to Irving, "You were smart, bro, I should not have gotten vaccinated either."

Then you learn the vaccine is for emergency use, and "Coach Nash noted that "predominantly" all of the players who had tested positive had been asymptomatic.".

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mi...18/id/1049202/

[Norbert61]

I understand it Ram. But anyone who has knowledge of politics outside of the USA, would agree that the o oh ifnly thing left about the Dem Party is that it is to the left of the Rep party. But that does not make it left. Thats like claiming a dwarf is tall bcos he is stood next to another and smaller dwarf. Hehe.

None of the Dem policies would pass as left wing in any orher country. The parties are 2 sides of the same coin.

Oh fuck. I was going to stay out of here and I try really really hard not to talk about politics with Americans but yes. Barack Obama (a democrat) was about three step right of our Prime Minister at the outset, Stephen Harper (A Conservative) - you folks are far and away the most conservative (you can insert the adjectives you want here) of any of the western democracies. HEY - WTF. How is this getting discussed in a forum about Colombian hookers!

[RamDavidson84]

Again, a few points.

You said you don't want to be a dick, but at the same time you chose to be a dick. If you don't want to be a dick, don't be a dick. Respond in a civil manner.

If you are stating an opinion, clearly identify it as an opinion. When you say "policies are not based on real science" that's an objective declaration, rather than a subjective opinion.

How do you know what qualifications the next guy has? I know of at least 3 people who post here who are highly qualified and their qualified posts are in opposition to your unqualified opinions.

My intention is not to reach the largest audience. That should be obvious since my posts are here, in a subgroup which most members of ISG don't read. My intention is to address false and misleading information, made by people who are merely repeating what their favorite talking head blabbed about. Ultimately, my intention is to identify people who are able to develop and support an intelligent and informed opinion.

Some very basic information for you:

It's not ion exposure, you get that every time you take a breath or drink a glass of water. It's exposure to ionizing radiation, something which is highly regulated because of the health risks involved.

My bad JJbee, I'm just bullshiting around in the forum, if I am being a dick please don't take it too personal. I would hope everyone here is wise enough not to take what anyone here posts as someone who is a qualified professional in whatever they post without a legit source. I don't know why anybody is going to assume whatever I write is fact and anything but my humble opinion. I can assure you, I am the furthest thing from any type of scientific professional in the areas of vaccines, government, or politics. If it is ok with you, I still feel like I have the right to express my opinion and I encourage everyone else to do the same. Thanks for explaining the ion stuff, but I can't muster the energy to take any that serious, kudos to you for being so well educated though.

And I always have respect for intelligent debate, no hate from me on that.

All that being said, do you feel these new lockdowns are necessary and based on purely on science?

[RamDavidson84]

Holy shit. Still talking about vaccines? Just drop it for fuck sakes.

Well this is the stupid shit forum, what do you expect haha? It is quite repetitive, although I have learned a bit about different views. Would def be cooler to learn some new mongering spots in Medellin besides the obvious joints haha.

[RamDavidson84]

I understand it Ram. But anyone who has knowledge of politics outside of the USA, would agree that the o oh ifnly thing left about the Dem Party is that it is to the left of the Rep party. But that does not make it left. Thats like claiming a dwarf is tall bcos he is stood next to another and smaller dwarf. Hehe.

None of the Dem policies would pass as left wing in any orher country. The parties are 2 sides of the same coin.

I got you. In my opinion, just goes to show you how extreme Democrats have gotten in USA. Thanks for explaining a bit about European politics, I like the multi-party systems of some of the European nations, maybe that's what the USA needs.

[JustTK]

trust me referring to Democrats as right-wing is really strange for an American to hear.

I understand it Ram. But anyone who has knowledge of politics outside of the USA, would agree that the o oh ifnly thing left about the Dem Party is that it is to the left of the Rep party. But that does not make it left. Thats like claiming a dwarf is tall bcos he is stood next to another and smaller dwarf. Hehe.

None of the Dem policies would pass as left wing in any orher country. The parties are 2 sides of the same coin.

[JustTK]

So correct me if I am wrong, according to this article, the center right party is in control in Austria and forcing the lockdowns and the new far right political party is anti-lockdown?

That seems correct Ram.

[BlackThought]

Holy shit. Still talking about vaccines? Just drop it for fuck sakes.

[Elvis 2008]

There is a player in the NBA named Kyrie Irving who refused the Vax. His team just activated him to play. This is huge IMO because it means management concluded the vaccine does not prevent transmission and there is so much Covid now they and Irving cannot be demonized if he were to play. And they also concluded players getting Covid is no big deal.

Sorry to quote myself, but this story is now even more funny now, and the media reaction is precious to it as well.

First off, Kyrie Irving, who refused to be vaccinated, was not allowed to play for his NBA team, the Brooklyn Nets. The media lined up and just blasted this guy saying he should get the vaccine, he didn't care enough, was not a team player, and all the usual antivaxx shaming rhetoric.

But it turns out the fully vaccinated Nets have a problem. Nearly half their team, 7 of 15, the part of the team that was vaccinated, is in Covid protocols now https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/brookl...ry?id=81755847.

Then I watch this video on ESPN and Mike Wilbon, whom I like, asks the question, How will Irving be received in the locker room? http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=32891275.

I was just shaking my head, such a media reaction. People make decisions based on what is going around them. If half my teammates got vaccinated and tested + for Covid and I saw soccer players who were vaxxed dropping like flies, I would say to Irving, "You were smart, bro, I should not have gotten vaccinated either."

Then you learn the vaccine is for emergency use, and "Coach Nash noted that "predominantly" all of the players who had tested positive had been asymptomatic."

So now you have to ask what was the emergency? If the excuse is used that the vaccine prevented more serious illness, the athletes can now look at Aaron Rogers, say he looks pretty good, and ask how many unvaccinated athletes who got Covid wound up like him? And the answer is almost all of them.

Then you look at the soccer players with heart problems and the vaccine is known to cause problems. And these scientists will say there is no proven link that their heart problems are due to the vaccine, but they cannot say there is no link either. When will the scientists know for sure? In a few years maybe.

The only reason that the vaccine companies are for vaccinating pro athletes is they have immunity from lawsuits. Heck, the vaccine companies will not even vaccinate refugees, refugees!, without an immunity deal: https://www.reuters.com/world/refuge...ts-2021-12-16/.

So which is it now that is so important, vaccinating the world against Covid or vaccine company profits? It is pretty obvious it is the latter.

So you can sue a doctor who prescribes you ivermectin but not one who gives you a vaccine? Does that not tell you which treatment is safer?

I repeat, we should all be antivaxxers now.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Yea we all understand political spectrum JustTK, but I was not aware Conservatives were enforcing the lockdowns in Austria. I did a little research and it is still showing the conservative parties are anti-lockdown? The left in the USA advocates for Authoritarian polices, what is unfair or untrue about that?

He thinks people will allow him to define everything not whacko like him extreme right wing LMAO.

[RamDavidson84]

No, the Austrian government is right wing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party#Ideology_and_Platform.

As is the Australian.

What left would that be Ram? I have been following USA politcis for quite a while and I have yet to see a leftist party so I am surprised that you even heard what the left might be advocating. What I see is the right wing Democrats advocating for vax card mandates on entry to the USA and destroying US social investment plans that could have helped the USA recover from its downward spiral.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/f...otest-rcna5695

So correct me if I am wrong, according to this article, the center right party is in control in Austria and forcing the lockdowns and the new far right political party is anti-lockdown?

[RamDavidson84]

No, the Austrian government is right wing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party#Ideology_and_Platform.

As is the Australian.

What left would that be Ram? I have been following USA politcis for quite a while and I have yet to see a leftist party so I am surprised that you even heard what the left might be advocating. What I see is the right wing Democrats advocating for vax card mandates on entry to the USA and destroying US social investment plans that could have helped the USA recover from its downward spiral.

I was surprised to learn this about Austria, I do not follow politics in Europe.

So in the USA, there is really no such thing as a right wing Democrat. If you said that to anyone in the USA, they would look at you like you have two heads. In the USA, if you say left wing, it is almost interchangeable with Democrat, or liberal at this point. Right wing is associated with Republicans and conservatives in the USA. And again, if you say left wing Republican, its not something you will ever hear in American politics. The left aka, the Democrats in the USA are advocating the Authoritarian policies we have been discussing. This is what has become of the left in the USA. If you ask the vast majority of Democratic voters in the USA, are you right or left on the political spectrum, they will say left and they will also advocate for mot of the time for vaccine mandates, contact tracing, lockdowns, socialism "maybe", and other authoritarian policies. JusTK, I find it really strange I have to explain that to anyone who follows American politics, but you are from another country so you get a pass, but trust me referring to Democrats as right-wing is really strange for an American to hear.

[JjBee62]

Hahahaha I have to stop posting on this forum SMH. I am expressing my opinion. On a sex mongering forum, I have no qualifications, just like the next guy. And what the fuck is this rambling post even about haha? I don't want to be a dick, but the fuck are you even talk about with Ion exposure and stove burners and shit. You could benefit from this saying K. I. S. S. - Keep it simple stupid. You'll convey your message more clearly to a larger audience.

Again, a few points.

You said you don't want to be a dick, but at the same time you chose to be a dick. If you don't want to be a dick, don't be a dick. Respond in a civil manner.

If you are stating an opinion, clearly identify it as an opinion. When you say "policies are not based on real science" that's an objective declaration, rather than a subjective opinion.

How do you know what qualifications the next guy has? I know of at least 3 people who post here who are highly qualified and their qualified posts are in opposition to your unqualified opinions.

My intention is not to reach the largest audience. That should be obvious since my posts are here, in a subgroup which most members of ISG don't read. My intention is to address false and misleading information, made by people who are merely repeating what their favorite talking head blabbed about. Ultimately, my intention is to identify people who are able to develop and support an intelligent and informed opinion.

Some very basic information for you:

It's not ion exposure, you get that every time you take a breath or drink a glass of water. It's exposure to ionizing radiation, something which is highly regulated because of the health risks involved.

Ionizing radiation is the type you get from nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons. Non-ionizing radiation, the easiest example is sunlight.

The connection between exposure to ionizing radiation and Covid policies is quite simple, "Exposure. " You can't see radiation, you can't see the coronavirus. At least with radiation you can detect it and keep people away from it.

Here's a simple analogy to explain the policies which, in your opinion aren't based on real science:

You are in a group of 1000 people. There are 3 toilets. 200 of you are going to have explosive diarrhea. Is it better for all 200 to have explosive diarrhea at the same time, or is it better for the bouts of diarrhea to be spread out over several hours?

That's the real science behind the policies which you think are just politics, put into terms anyone can understand.

Is it better to have 50,000 people needing ICU beds, at the same time when you only have 10,000 available, or is it better to spread those 50,000 patients out over several months?

In your other post you said that all of those nursing home patients would have contracted the virus eventually. Probably true. However, how many would still be alive if they not been exposed before effective treatment protocols were established? How many would still be alive if they could have been vaccinated before exposure?

Finally, the thing I was talking about with stove burners was a very simple way to demonstrate how incredibly stupid it is to apply political ideologies to science problems. You weren't able to understand it because your limited understanding of science is entirely based upon your politics.

[JustTK]

I was not aware Conservatives were enforcing the lockdowns in Austria. I did a little research and it is still showing the conservative parties are anti-lockdown?

No, the Austrian government is right wing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party#Ideology_and_Platform.

As is the Australian.

The left in the USA advocates for Authoritarian polices, what is unfair or untrue about that?

What left would that be Ram? I have been following USA politcis for quite a while and I have yet to see a leftist party so I am surprised that you even heard what the left might be advocating. What I see is the right wing Democrats advocating for vax card mandates on entry to the USA and destroying US social investment plans that could have helped the USA recover from its downward spiral.

[Villainy]

Peckford links to all the relevant sources. Rogan was interviewing a doctor who made a number of good points.

Joe Rogan is interviewing a doctor, and you are so fucking stupid you attack Rogan?

Rogan said that drug companies are making tens of billions on the vaccine and do not want that to stop. Your opinion on that is Rogan is an idiot.

Attacking the source versus the facts is a Democratic douche move, and your post gets the Pfizer seal of approval but for me, this is the second time you have made really, really stupid attacks and you are on ignore.

Pecker Blog linked another Libertarian blog that had no sources, none for the article which Pecker Blog reprinted. In short that means there was zero support for the article.

Apparently you aren't yet literate. That's fine. So let me say it so that even a 3rd grader can understand it. I didn't call Joe Rogan an idiot. Read the Wikipedia piece. He called himself a "moron" and further said.

"I'm not a respected source of information". So just so you get it. I didn't have to say anything, he said it about himself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan

The point is you blather on about CoVid like you know something when the only sources you come up with are libertarian blogs and self-confessed morons who are color commentators for UFC. Why in the world should anyone believe anything that you write??