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  1. #6490

    Another view on the subject of relationships

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I love how you Medellin morons make the definition of girlfriend and sugar baby / daddy personal definitions when they are societal ones. It is very convenient for you when you all are bullshitting yourselves.
    You are the mother fucking bullshitter and you have been polluting this thread by talking a lot of shit and practicing what you preach since I have been posting about Colombia. Men in general are not monogamous nor are girls. In nearly all types of relationships men and girl enter into monogamy is the standard but not the practice. What many men do is practice non-ethical non-monogamy. I practice ethical non-monogamy.

    The problem is that you (any many others of your type) want to take the ideas of your cultural background (you know the original pussy colonizers) and apply them to cultures where they do not apply or accept them. That makes you an International Moron and the dumbest of the dumb mother fuckers. Because you are posting about monogamy in a country where girls except that they are not going to get it from even their husbands. They may not like it but the majority of them make the trade off in order to get the financial security that come with the societal institution of marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I don't care what you all do. I just think it so funny how you Medellin morons swear up and down you are not sugar daddies when you obviously are.
    But you do. You want to force your views down the throats of others by engaging in personal attacks. Read Man Law 101 you DMF!.

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...019.00230/full

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...s/70824743007/

    "Most male mammals do not look after their offspring; humans are an exception in this respect. Like most mammals, humans are not strictly monogamic. A tendency to social monogamy has evolved, however, and is subject to strong reinforcement by cultural factors, particularly religion".

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12685340/

    Yes, I can google and post links too. But I am not making the same logical fallacies are you are. Namely: Appeal to authority. Everyone fuck this dumb mother fucker with the handle of Elvis. Just DOWHATCHA like!

  2. #6489
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]

    What you said is that for a real relationship it needs to only be about money. Granted, you change what you say more often than most people change their underwear. So, from your most recently stated position, being emotionally committed means it's not a relationship.

    I spend my money on many things. It's mine. I earned it. Daddy didn't give it to me. My girlfriend has no say on how I spend it. If she is busy doing other things and I feel like fucking someone else, it's my penis. She doesn't control that either. If I take the other girl to dinner, I'm spending my time, which is mine alone, my money, which is mine alone, to fuck with my penis, which is mine alone..
    I love how you Medellin morons make the definition of girlfriend and sugar baby / daddy personal definitions when they are societal ones. It is very convenient for you when you all are bullshitting yourselves. Of course, the definitions are not mine. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10....31121419875115.

    Sugar dating was the most common type of sugar relationship as 31 percent of participants had this type of arrangement. Those involved in sugar dating engaged in a variety of activities with their benefactor including going out to dinner, getting drinks, attending work events, and traveling. Sexual interactions were also a predominant part of the interpersonal relationship script of sugar daters.

    One of the most important characteristics of the sugar dating interpersonal relationship script was the expectation for benefactors to provide gifts and monetary benefits to female recipients. The monetary arrangements involved in sugar dating did not follow the "pay-for-play" format that is typically seen with prostitution. Consistent with the general subcultural sugar relationship script, I found that most participants emphasized having some sort of emotional connection and / or genuine liking for their benefactor.

    The lives of sugar daters and their benefactors were not usually intertwined, as women typically preferred to keep their sugar relationships separate from their other, more conventional social roles. This stemmed from the general subcultural sugar relationship script that involved the expectation that both parties create and maintain an arrangement that was NSA. This meant that sugar partners were not expected to form committed or monogamous relationships with one another. In fact, most sugar dating relationships were nonmonogamous.

    End of link.

    So while sugar relationships pretty much default to nonomogamous, the GF / BF ones go the other way. The most common area this rears its ugly head is when a guy founds out his GF has a SD.

    Almost all the advice given is to dump the girl when that happens because she is not committed to the guy.

    https://dearwendy.com/the-girl-im-da...r-sugar-daddy/

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=6274530

    I don't care what you all do. I just think it so funny how you Medellin morons swear up and down you are not sugar daddies when you obviously are.

  3. #6488

    Lateness

    If you are dealing with online girls visiting you, some have mentioned that they tend to be late. If you tell her to meet you at 8 pm, she may show up at 9 pm or later. Very rarely will she show up at 8 pm but if she gets there before 8:30 pm, it's like she's on time. Someone mentioned a technique that I have been using, setting the date an hour earlier than you want and then chances are that she will show when you actually want. So if you want her to show up at 8 pm, ask her to meet you at 7 pm and it is likely that she will show up closer to 8 pm. Now, every once in a while, a girl screws everything up and actually shows up on time, but that is only once in a while.

    Some may say it is rude but it is more that time is very casual here and the girls treat these meetings as social events even though it is really a business transaction.

    Now, I do get girls who are very late, and I just tell them it is too late for me and cancel the date if they have not left yet and it is already one hour past. Usually they beg you to change your mind, and then they actually make more of an effort to get going.

  4. #6487

    I love Colombians

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    A little further on this so others can better understand what your saying is that Colombians try to avoid confrontation, so instead of being blunt or speaking their minds, they will say one thing to avoid confrontation and do something else which is hard to accept and something you cannot really change when dealing with Colombians which I struggle with at times.

    Another cultural item here which I find maddening in step with what you have brought up is communication.

    Typically they will say they will meet at a certain time whether they can make it or not, and then when they don't make it, they don't even contact you to tell you there not going to make it or advise you if they are going to be late.

    This is probably one of my biggest frustrations dealing with Colombians, and for them, it's totally normal in their culture.

    And probably the biggest frustration mongers have here myself included.

    On many occasions over the years I have had to discipline some Chicas for showing up late by giving them a deadline to arrive, and if not blow them off, and typically after they miss a payday, they become more punctual.
    I love Colombians. All of them excerpt the mean rolos. 2 things I don't like about the culture is when you ask for the check at a restaurant hey only bring the receipt and then they leave for 3 hours and don't bring the dataphono so you can pay. It's like broski I said bring the check so I can pay not so I could admire it.

    And the other thing is when you go to the store like a clothing store and you're just there to look at things. The girl ornguy whi works st the store just follows you sround and looks at you while you look at the items. Its like broski can inlook at the items in piece I dint need your helo and I'm not going to steal anything.

    Aside from that I love paisas. The tardiness thikg is kinda whack too tbh but I learned that when you tell then be somewhere at 4 to them it means ok got it ill leave my house at 4. So I judt tell them to come an hour before were supposed to meet and I get there on time and it works. And if they are early, in another timeline they wouldve been late LOL.

  5. #6486
    Pursuing regular girls is a lot of work. Forget the time is money excuse people are using. We are lazy. It's like exercise. People always say they don't have time to exercise. That's a lie. We all have 10 minutes before bed to do sit-ups pushups and jumping jacks. The reason we don't do it, is because we hate exercise. I didn't start mongering until my 30's, and if I had to go back in time, I would have started at 18. LOL.

  6. #6485
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    In Colombia almost everyone will agree with you. It's one of the things in the culture, they hate directly contradicting anyone. It can be maddening because someone agrees to meet at a certain time, or do a certain thing, but it never happens.
    A little further on this so others can better understand what your saying is that Colombians try to avoid confrontation, so instead of being blunt or speaking their minds, they will say one thing to avoid confrontation and do something else which is hard to accept and something you cannot really change when dealing with Colombians which I struggle with at times.

    Another cultural item here which I find maddening in step with what you have brought up is communication.

    Typically they will say they will meet at a certain time whether they can make it or not, and then when they don't make it, they don't even contact you to tell you there not going to make it or advise you if they are going to be late.

    This is probably one of my biggest frustrations dealing with Colombians, and for them, it's totally normal in their culture.

    And probably the biggest frustration mongers have here myself included.

    On many occasions over the years I have had to discipline some Chicas for showing up late by giving them a deadline to arrive, and if not blow them off, and typically after they miss a payday, they become more punctual.

  7. #6484

    Man Law 101

    Let's get back to basics:

    Man law 101

    No real man is telling another real man how to spend his hard earned money or who to fuck.

    Pussy is Pussy

    All you need to do is go to a few different countries fuck the girls there to realize this. Now if you are the type of person that gets hung up on the pussy life support system, if you like it then I love it.

    I have girlfriends in three different countries. I help them all out with money. And because they are my girlfriends I talk to them. I do not talk to prostitutes, I give them money to gain access to their mouth, pussy and ass without have to do that. And I am not going to let anyone hear on ISG or anyone that actually exists in real life to define my relationships for me.

    Only wage slaves believe that time is money. I am an emancipated wage slave so I know this personally. Those who are financially literate know money is money. And you use money to make more money, not your time. Because your time is limited. Everyone gets the same 24 hours in a day, no matter how much or how little money that they have.

  8. #6483
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Obv some people agree w you but I put it to you that's its a biased sample. People that agree w you would comment to you. But likewise I see many comments from newbies to Colombia that the women are stunning. It odd don't you think, that there is no country in the world where mongers would say the standard of girls is getting higher. Not even spain or usa, where these millions of beautiful chicas have sposdely gone to.
    In Colombia almost everyone will agree with you. It's one of the things in the culture, they hate directly contradicting anyone. It can be maddening because someone agrees to meet at a certain time, or do a certain thing, but it never happens.

  9. #6482
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere  [View Original Post]
    Strange. The foreigners and locals I spoke with have all agreed with me. Obviously you have not been reading the posts here that verify my assessment that the quality in street girls, spas / casa, and Lleras / Pobaldo are all down.
    t.
    Do you remember the first time someone bought you a box of assorted flavour xhocolates? It was quite amazing hey? All those great flavours to try out. What a great present!

    But by the 4th or 5th time many folks will be thinking, oh no, not more choclates! Can't they offer me smthg else? Boring!

  10. #6481
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere  [View Original Post]
    Newbies do not know the before and after.

    Some of the hot girls disappeared through food.
    Many Western countries are marrying overseas girls and is increasing every day.

    The incomes of many countries are increasing .
    I never said newbies would know the before and after. I simply said they often find the women stunning, and this supports my overall claim.

    Agreed that obesity is a problem worldwide but not at 5% per year. And it effects young people less, and the physically active sex workers less. Plus some guys prefer girls w some flesh. And very few girls turn from stunners to obese and unacceptable. Often its the puglies anyway.

    Marrying- this is normal in the career of anyone. Its nothing new.

    Incomes increase, so do costs. It has nothing to do with the percieved beauty of the people.

  11. #6480
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    But likewise I see many comments from newbies to Colombia that the women are stunning. It odd don't you think, that there is no country in the world where mongers would say the standard of girls is getting higher. Not even spain or usa, where these millions of beautiful chicas have sposdely gone to.
    Newbies do not know the before and after. They never saw the girls from 2+ years ago to compare against the girls available today. Simplified newbies do not know % at! If I was a newbie I would be thrilled to death too.

    Some of the hot girls disappeared through food. Food globalism from the USA fast food and junk food are making huge percentages of the girls fat now. I used to see thin girls all over the Philippines and slowly watched them fatten up. Look at how fat kids are in Western countries. There were not that many fat kids in my classes when I was growing up.

    Many Western countries are marrying overseas girls and is increasing every day. Nobody wants the Western attitude "I do not need a man" woman.

    The incomes of many countries are increasing so the need to offer sex is not as large as before and countless other reasons.

  12. #6479
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere  [View Original Post]
    Strange. The foreigners and locals I spoke with have all agreed with me. the quality in street girls, spas / casa, and Lleras / Pobado are all down..
    Obv some people agree w you but I put it to you that's its a biased sample. People that agree w you would comment to you. But likewise I see many comments from newbies to Colombia that the women are stunning. It odd don't you think, that there is no country in the world where mongers would say the standard of girls is getting higher. Not even spain or usa, where these millions of beautiful chicas have sposdely gone to.

  13. #6478
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    The thing is, this is all made up in your head, both the number and the assessment. People find the girls less attractive simply bcos they get used to them. They are just not blown away by the false positive emotion they felt the first time.

    As for AC, I always thought the quality of girls was prett low. Wanting bikinis, well that's just your own subjective preference. Not mine. Not the majority. Cheap girls you can still find down the far end or outside of the big clubs. Its only ruined if you allow it be that way in your mind.
    Strange. The foreigners and locals I spoke with have all agreed with me. Obviously you have not been reading the posts here that verify my assessment that the quality in street girls, spas / casa, and Lleras / Pobaldo are all down.

    Naked is best but illegal in AC. Bikinis are preferred to see if there is hidden baby damage and to be sure bras or dress breast area are not padded and see if she really in thin or hiding her fat body in baggy clothes. You need to look at Score Birds pool parties from the first 2 years and then watch the last 2-5 years so you know what the hell you are talking about. Still they do not do justice to the girls that were there before that.

  14. #6477
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    You parade around all superior to others for getting laid without paying for it when you are paying with time. You are oblivious to the fact that for other guys the reason they pay is that it is cheaper than wooing a woman like you do because for them time equals money. Do you get time equals money is something that is true for a "grown man" not a 10 year old? Again, here you go parading around all superior while you are being immature.
    Simple things for simple minds. "Time is money" applies to everyone, because everyone has a limited amount of it and almost everyone wants more of it.

    The simplistic, 10 year old view is that time is money, because you could be using the time to make money. The adult view is that time spent making money is a necessary waste of time. I enjoy what I do to make money, but I'd rather spend the time wooing, or fucking women. And if I feel like wooing a woman, then just finding a hooker is time wasted.

    I said you are not financially or emotionally committed. You and JJBee are off spending your time and money on other women and care about pleasing them more than your "girlfriends".
    What you said is that for a real relationship it needs to only be about money. Granted, you change what you say more often than most people change their underwear. So, from your most recently stated position, being emotionally committed means it's not a relationship.

    I spend my money on many things. It's mine. I earned it. Daddy didn't give it to me. My girlfriend has no say on how I spend it. If she is busy doing other things and I feel like fucking someone else, it's my penis. She doesn't control that either. If I take the other girl to dinner, I'm spending my time, which is mine alone, my money, which is mine alone, to fuck with my penis, which is mine alone.

    For the record, whenever I'm with a hooker, I care about pleasing myself. When I'm with a woman, who isn't a hooker, I care about pleasing both, or all 3 of us. I don't worry about pleasing someone who isn't in the bed.

    Truth is when you and JJBee parade around with the term GF, all you are doing is showing everyone you are arrogant POS liars. He has a sugar baby and you have a friend with benefits, and everyone knows it.
    Parade around? If I'm going to be parading around I want a fucking marching band. Nobody is parading around. For some unknown reason a few brainless, psychotic twits on ISG are obsessed with the fact that I have a girlfriend. The other 99.999% don't give a flying fuck. Why it's become the focal point of your life is a mystery to me. You waddle around and care more about discussing my relationships than about pleasing your own girlfriend. Talk about wasting time.

  15. #6476
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    SMH. Three times I went to Senior Frog's with one, two, and three women in tow. I was not serious with any of them at the time. SF's has funny signs they put up behind their customers. Three times they put the sign sugar daddy behind me, and three times, they were right.

    When I kissed my much younger GF goodbye, a cab driver told me, "You have a pretty GF" which again was on target.

    You can insert your personal insult like you always do here, but the point is these people correctly knew what kind of relationships I had just from the vibes the women and I gave off.

    And so if you went to Senior Frog's the sign would read "In a Biblical relationship" versus "sugardaddy"?

    Yeah, you would think that.
    Pixar needs to make a Buzz Lightyear spinoff movie about your abject stupidity. They've already got the catch phrase, because "to infinity and beyond" perfectly describes your ignorance. It's truly boundless.

    Last summer, in the Midwestern United States, heart of the Bible Belt, in a conservative small town, in a conservative state, I took a girl from Colombia into an empty barbecue restaurant. The girl is 40 years younger than me. She was in the bathroom when the 65-70 year old waitress brought our food. The waitress said, in English, "your girlfriend is very beautiful. " I posted about it last year.

    That means exactly nothing. Another woman, a greeter at Wal-Mart, glared at us when we walked in. There are about 8 billion people on this planet. One person making a statement doesn't control worldwide opinions.

    Senor Frog's is a party place. The signs are to get laughs. If an older gringo enters with 1, 2, 3 or 34 young locals, about the only sign they could hold up to get a laugh is "Sugar Daddy. " "Gringo with Putas" might make some people angry.

    Same with the taxi driver. What's he going to say? "I like your hooker?" "Does she do anal?" "Think she'll do a threesome with me and you?" If he says anything at all (and most won't say anything at all), his options are limited, plus the limitations of his English.

    It's both fun and frustrating making a fool of you. It's fun, because like your stupidity, there is no end to the opportunities. It's frustrating because you can't grasp anything that you have previously written and connect it to any reply, as illustrated here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    GF and wife have positive societal connotations, and you all know that and that is why you want to use them. If you have a woman who you call GF and she says that she does not mind you fucking other women, that just means the two of you have gotten together and tried to redefine its meaning. Show me one mainstream source that says it is okay to have a GF and fuck hookers on the side.
    You asked for a source, I gave you a source. In the US these days, it doesn't get more mainstream than the Bible. If Hefner was still alive, I could have used Playboy as another.

    If you had the capacity to grasp something so simple, there were dozens of possible responses. Instead, with your miniscule understanding of everything, you decided that:

    1. I would have any interest in taking my girl to Senor Frog's.

    2. At Senor Frog's they would hold a sign over my head.

    3. The staff at Senor Frog's would intuitively know that I occasionally will fuck other women.

    4. The staff at Senor Frog's will then translate that intuition into "Biblical relationship. ".

    I think your name needs to change from Elvis to Elvisn't. As in "it's really fucking simple, but Elv Isn't able to understand it. ".

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