Stupid shit in Medellin

[RamDavidson84]

To be clear, I am ok, You are ok!

Came across more like thoughts and opinions after reading your post.

I don't get the above statement at all. All grown men should think like you? Well I am here to tell you my fellow ISG brother, that given where you are from and the attitude you display you are most likely a member of the group of males (along with your friends) that I came to hate during the my time of working and living in the Disunited states of America. And this became one of the main reasons I left the Disunited states of America. This group of males consists of individuals who think by the wining of the birth lottery (and other factors) that they are superior by birth. That their ideas or the ideas that everyone should have. And if you don't think like me then I will marginalize you by calling names (Elvis 2008 comes to mind). I have no problem with the information you delivered to us. But I do take issue with the level of superiority displayed in the type of language you used and how you used it. But it was your post to write as you saw fit. And this is my post to deliver my comments about it. Thank you for the insight into your inner thoughts about this issue.

This is a weird post. I am here to just try to help other mongers and myself exchange info on the game.

[MiamiBoy1]

Once again in my opinion if you are under 50 and you are paying for pussy something is wrong with you. Exceptions, when you are on trips and don't know anyone or don't have time to develop a "real relationship".

Something is wrong? LOL. If someone under 50 is paying for pussy, this should be none of your concern, because as you said it, my money, my dick. There are various reasons why someone in his prime age pays for pussy. Maybe he has no time nor desire to start a real relationship, too focused on career / work to invest time and effort in building one. Maybe he is married or just got out of a marriage / relationship and doesn't need any commitments. Maybe just for the sake of adventure, hunt, or convenience.

Should the admins set a minimum age requirement of 50 for all ISG members then, because there is something wrong with younger mongers?

But I think we both would agree on this. The wider the age gap, the more difficult it becomes to develop a real relationship or just hooking up with someone on a non-p4 p basis, and the more necessary it becomes to pay to cover the age gap. Therefore, I don't believe fairy tales about older dudes dating girls 40 years younger, unless these girls are ugly af and can't find a better alternative.

[JjBee62]

MiamiBoy these guys are clowns / total idiots. They would not know what to do with a hot chick. I am in my 50's and killing, but I do pay market value, honestly a little less, for what I get back in return. Many of the girls I am meeting spend the night or there are no rules. What more can I ask for.

Let it go and move on. You have proved your point.

Here's a question I've been meaning to ask.

Is DramaQueen just Elvis in drag? Same atrophied grasp of English, and logic. Same bitterness.

Illuminate us, oh Great Queen of Fabricated Drama. What is it I'm supposed to do with a "hot chick?" Pay her market rate (more or less doesn't matter)? But if I'm doing that, I'm not with a hot chick. I'm just spending time with a prostitute. Not exactly a difficult task. I'd put it equal to ordering a pizza for delivery. No anchovies please.

That's your definition of "killing?" Or did you mean to say "killing time with hookers until I die of boredom?

Here's a list of things to do with a "hot chick" (I don't advise doing these things with prostitutes. You wouldn't hire a plumber and take him out to watch the local wildlife):

1. Take her to a bookstore. Does she get excited and start perusing the titles? What books interest her?

2. Introduce her to new (to her) cuisine. Teach her to use chopsticks. Test her palate and her willingness to try new things.

3. Take her to an amusement park, or a waterpark (make sure she brings a bikini other than the Wicked Weasel you bought her. Buying a bikini at a waterpark is expensive).

4. Plan and cook a meal with her. Does she know her way around a kitchen? Is she interested in learning a new skill? Does she feel a sense of accomplishment when the food tastes great?

5. Take her to see something she's never seen. It could be as simple as going to El Museo Castillo in Medellin (or if she's Mexican, take her to a public restroom that doesn't require you to buy toilet paper), or to a famous landmark in another country.

6. Take turns picking music. How does she react to your music? How broad is her music appreciation?

7. Play tourist together. If you can swing it (meaning a hot chick who has or can get a US Tourist Visa), Chicago, New York, Seattle and Washington DC are all good choices. See the local sites, eat the local foods.

8. Take her off the grid, where her phone has no signal, no Wi-Fi and see how she handles being with you, just you.

9. Play games with her. It can be video games or something like Jenga. Modify the rules a bit, to allow Spanish and English, and play Scrabble. Or she probably knows Uno. How does she handle winning and losing?

10. Introduce her to new sexual experiences. This won't be easy with a prostitute, but should be no problem with a "hot chick. " Uncover her fantasies, explore them.

There's so much more, which doesn't matter if you're just paying market rates to fuck prostitutes.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm planning a dive trip with a "hot chick" and need to get busy.

[Mr Enternational]

If someone gets turned on by fat chicks in their 40's with low self esteem, god bless them. But a fat chick in her 40's with low self esteem should not be rated highly on a 1-10 scale for purposes of exchanging information on the forum because the vast majority of men who are competitive in the dating game do not find that desirable.

What about a rich fat chick in her 30's with high self esteem? Ie Lizzo.

[SubCmdr]

To be clear, I am ok, You are ok!

To be clear, this post is not directed toward anyone in particular. Just an explanation of my logic.

Came across more like thoughts and opinions after reading your post.

Personally, I think it's weird I have to state that, but the more time I have spent on this forum, the more I realize there is some strange mother fuckers with some strange thinking posting up in here.

I don't get the above statement at all. All grown men should think like you? Well I am here to tell you my fellow ISG brother, that given where you are from and the attitude you display you are most likely a member of the group of males (along with your friends) that I came to hate during the my time of working and living in the Disunited states of America. And this became one of the main reasons I left the Disunited states of America. This group of males consists of individuals who think by the wining of the birth lottery (and other factors) that they are superior by birth. That their ideas or the ideas that everyone should have. And if you don't think like me then I will marginalize you by calling names (Elvis 2008 comes to mind). I have no problem with the information you delivered to us. But I do take issue with the level of superiority displayed in the type of language you used and how you used it. But it was your post to write as you saw fit. And this is my post to deliver my comments about it. Thank you for the insight into your inner thoughts about this issue.

Your entire post can be summed up with this line:

Of course, I know the scale is very subjective.

And that all that needs to be said on the matter in my opinion.

Why are men who are young, fit, have jobs and are in all aspects perfect, having stepped out of central casting, with girl falling to their knees upon sight to suck their dicks paying for pussy anyway?

I am more interested in a response to that question than the endless debate on the 1 - 10 scale. Studies have been done on appearance. Those who think they are the same across all countries, I suggest you educate yourselves. It is only simple in the minds of the individuals that wish to impose their standards of beauty upon others. And I will not accept it.

https://whyttmagazine.com/all/beauty...erent-cultures

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...-beauty-2014-6

[JustTK]

Here is the scale I use. No one ever has to use it but me. Of course, I know the scale is very subjective.

9-10: Very attractive and indemand women. Think Models and Actresses.

7-8: Very Attactive women but cannot obtain employment solely based on their looks. Think cute bartender or hot nurse at your local bar or hospital.

5-6: Cute girl with mostly nothing wrong with her but not quite a hot face or fit body. The girl you would be happy to fuck out of the bar for a night, but not going to call her the next day.

4 and below: Druggies, older chicks, total slobs, etc. Girls you don't fuck with.

Out of curiousity Ram, why do you feel the need for a scale of 1-10. Surely in your case 1-4 would achieve the same thing (together with the words high / low)?

[SubCmdr]

The problem with what you're saying is getting hot girls in mongering countries is so much work. It's just easier to pay, especially over 40 mongers. I'm over 50 now. How much time do I have left. I already feel my libido and energy levels crashing. One nut per day. Can I still do this at 65. I don't know. Idk how Hugh Hefner was banging all these girls at 80. Viagra isn't a wonder drug. A girl is either a hooker or not in Colombia. There is no in between. I've mongered over 20 years and a real girl would be ashamed to charge for sex. People that say hookers don't charge them are lying. You know how many guys at Help told me they weren't paying. Tons. They were all liars. You are in the biggest working girl club and you aren't paying. Ok.

Let's start with I am ok, You are ok. And I understand your position. Every grown man should be doing what is best for his own dick. I know that is what I do.

If a grown man wants to pay for the hottest girls (his definition) because that is what gets him off, if he likes it, I love it. I don't need to call him names because I disagree with him. I do not need hot girls as defined by other men. I need hot girls (my definition). And a hot girl to me is a girl I have chemistry with. A girl that I want to be with. A girl that turns me on. And a girl that that give me access to her three holes.

I base my judgement for how much I pay on how much the girls in my regular relationships cost me. I am not going to pay a prostitute more than I give a girl that has been consistently there for me and that brings more to the table than just pussy. That is what has happened to me as I got older. I no longer need to fuck as many girls as possible. Now I want to fuck girls that provide me with a benefit beyond pussy. Even if she is a prostitute.

I have been living in the Dominican Republic for the last 10 years. Do you know how many times I have heard "I don't usually do this, but I am in a financial crisis. " And it is not a story either. They have verified to me afterwards. And what do you know, I am hearing the same thing from girls her in Colombia.

It is a very rare occasion that I just have to have a girl at any price. When a Colombian girl asks me for 400,000 COP the conversation just ends at that point. I am not paying that to any girl. I can give that to my regular girl and fuck for the entire month and she will be super appreciative because she can get her hair and nails done and look pretty for me and feel good about herself.

Individuals need to understand, I am not attacking the methods of others. Only sharing what works for MY dick! But that being said, I really don't give a fuck about what anyone else things about what I do or how I do things. I am interested in what others do and how they do it because that is how I learn. Lastly, I don't worry if someone lies on their dick. I don't need to prove to them or others that they are lying on their dick. We all should be grown men up in here. Lie to your girls, but you should not lie to yourself.

How you like me now?

[SubCmdr]

I agree. You know what the issue is?

Actually I don't know what the issue is. In fact I don't know why there would even be an issue. Remember my one dick rule? The only dick that matters in mine. I don't pay attention to what other guys that I do not know are doing with their dick or their money.

These overweight unemployed slobs in their 50's are being delusional, thinking they get the same girls as successful men in their prime and for much less $.

Are you one of the successful men in their prime? And do you pay these hot girls that are in demand to fuck you?

Because if you are under 50 and are paying hot girls to fuck you anyone and I do mean anyone of any age or appearance can do that. I was in my late 40's before I started to pay girls to fuck me. Now, if you are talking "real relationships" (however you define it), then yes that can make a difference. And yet, I have no problem having girls enter "real relationships" (as I define it) that are 20 to 30 years younger than I am.

Now I am new to Colombia. And there are individuals who insist on calling me "newbie", but I do believe that there is no stigma for young girls to get with older guys. If individuals get out of prostitution ally and out into the real parts of the city you will see that older Colombian men can pull young Colombian girls. There may be some stigma with being with an older gringo. But if the girl is happy then they ignore that.

Now if you take your standard of 50 that means 30 years younger is 20. That means for those like me (pushing 60) then 30 years younger is 30. Now thirty might seem old to you young bucks. And yes they have passed their "real relationship" expiration date. But that puts the pussy on discount and even discounted pussy can fuck good. Once again in my opinion if you are under 50 and you are paying for pussy something is wrong with you. Exceptions, when you are on trips and don't know anyone or don't have time to develop a "real relationship".

Heck, some even call them "girlfriends" and claim they have real relationships with young fit women who could be their granddaughters.

I got a few years of living in a Latin American culture. Visitors not going to tell me 2 COP worth of anything about about culture. Any one posting here can tell me about where to find prostitutes. I stipulate that you guys (especially Elvis 2008) knows more about prostitution in Medellin than I do. And so I ask, when you come to Colombia MiamiBoy do you develop real relationships or pay prostitutes?

How you like me now?

[RamDavidson84]

When I was a young, fit dude with cash, there was no need for cash to get women. All any guy had to do then (and it hasn't changed) is just talk to women. If someone my age 30 years ago would have told me they need to travel to third world countries in order to get laid, and then they have to pay for sex, I'd have bought them a shot and told them that was the saddest story I'd ever heard.

In fact, I keep hearing that same story from "young fit dudes with cash", except now I just laugh my ass off at the poor saps, who never managed to get laid without buying it, trying to explain why I can't have sex with the women I'm having sex with.

But enough about your situation. Let's talk about your 1-10 scale (because in a thread full of stupid shit it wins the golden septic tank trophy).

First we have to survey the most in demand women to determine:

1. What they consider to be prime age for a man.

2. Their definition of success.

3. Their definition of "fit. ".

4. Their fitness preferences for prime aged, successful men.

Then, after analyzing all the data, contact all the men who statistically fall into the top of the 'prime aged, successful fit" group and get them to create a 1-10 scale. After analyzing all of that data, you finally have a scale which you can then apply to describe a woman who you may or may not ever be able to fuck.

Shit. Forgot 1 crucial step. First, we have to determine who are the most in demand women. I'm guessing we're supposed to get that from the prime age, fit, successful men, but we can't know who they are until we ask the most in demand women. You've created an infinite loop.

Here's the key question:

Why do I need to ask a bunch of other men whether or not I want to fuck a woman?

Another fun question:

How do you know what type of women any man who you've never met, never talked to, never even said "Hello," to, is interested in?

Plus the companion question:

How do you know what any woman, who you've never seen, never chatted with, never even heard a first hand description of, is looking for in a man?

A final note:

You obviously don't know a fucking thing about any nations, cultures or ethnicities if you believe beauty standards are consistent across them all.

So this post is just for you JBJBJ. I ll answer some of your questions even though as adult men I find it silly I have to do this for you or any other man.

1. Prime means when something is at its best. Here we are referring to the sexual market place value for men, so a man's prime is when he is at his peak value in the sexual market place meaning he can obtain the most highly desirable women. Men can hit their prime value in the sexual market place at all different ages, but in general this is going to be anywhere from late 20's to early 40's.

2. Generally if a man is deemed to be successful in American society, he has a acquired the necessary skills to obtain lifelong resources in the form of owning property / home, steady salary / cash, and a form of income for when he retires / pension. Success also refers to the man's happiness in regards to his mental health and sense of worth as well as the meaningful relationships he has obtained with friends and family.

3. "Fit" would be a healthy man, he has no afflictions from disease or vice and maintains an aesthetically pleasing physique in the form of low body fat and some form of muscle tone. This doesn't mean a man has to be a bodybuilder, but a dude should not look unhealthy if he wants to hit his peak in regards to his value in the sexual market place.

Simple stuff. I don't understand why you go so hard out of your way to complicate this. I feel as though, since you are older and no longer in your prime and your preferences have changed, that you think all men's preferences are irrelevant and all of society needs to change as well. You kind of come off as a narcissist if I am going to be honest.

KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. Guys with options like young fertile fit women who are not jaded and open to emotional and sexual connection.

[RamDavidson84]

When I was a young, fit dude with cash, there was no need for cash to get women. All any guy had to do then (and it hasn't changed) is just talk to women. If someone my age 30 years ago would have told me they need to travel to third world countries in order to get laid, and then they have to pay for sex, I'd have bought them a shot and told them that was the saddest story I'd ever heard.

In fact, I keep hearing that same story from "young fit dudes with cash", except now I just laugh my ass off at the poor saps, who never managed to get laid without buying it, trying to explain why I can't have sex with the women I'm having sex with.

But enough about your situation. Let's talk about your 1-10 scale (because in a thread full of stupid shit it wins the golden septic tank trophy).

First we have to survey the most in demand women to determine:

1. What they consider to be prime age for a man.

2. Their definition of success.

3. Their definition of "fit. ".

4. Their fitness preferences for prime aged, successful men.

Then, after analyzing all the data, contact all the men who statistically fall into the top of the 'prime aged, successful fit" group and get them to create a 1-10 scale. After analyzing all of that data, you finally have a scale which you can then apply to describe a woman who you may or may not ever be able to fuck.

Shit. Forgot 1 crucial step. First, we have to determine who are the most in demand women. I'm guessing we're supposed to get that from the prime age, fit, successful men, but we can't know who they are until we ask the most in demand women. You've created an infinite loop.

Here's the key question:

Why do I need to ask a bunch of other men whether or not I want to fuck a woman?

Another fun question:

How do you know what type of women any man who you've never met, never talked to, never even said "Hello," to, is interested in?

Plus the companion question:

How do you know what any woman, who you've never seen, never chatted with, never even heard a first hand description of, is looking for in a man?

A final note:

You obviously don't know a fucking thing about any nations, cultures or ethnicities if you believe beauty standards are consistent across them all.

To be clear, this post is not directed toward anyone in particular. Just an explanation of my logic.

When I said, "Young fit dudes with cash", I was making the simple point they have a career oriented job and have the resources or marketable skills to acquire resources for themselves and a partner over a lifetime. I was not implying young fit dudes with cash in their hand trying to purchase sex. Like you stated, it's sad if a young fit dude with a career is buying sex. Obviously he doesn't have too, well the vast majority of the time he doesn't have too. It's sad I have I to spell this out for people who have paid for sex so long they no longer realize that women want a man with a job. Even if your the smoothest talker and an amazing fuck, the vast majority of women will still not respect you if you do not have some type of meaningful employment. Personally, I think it's weird I have to state that, but the more time I have spent on this forum, the more I realize there is some strange mother fuckers with some strange thinking posting up in here. And yes I know, some women don't care about money at all, but they are not the majority, they are the minority.

I am going to try and keep this as simple as possible. The 1-10 scale should be used on the forum just to exchange information. If you want the highest quality most in demand women, girls I would rate 7 and above, Gustos and La Isla is your easiest and simplest bet, yes I know also not your cheapest. If you don't mind girls in the 5-6 range, just hit a casa up. Personally if I am traveling to another country I don't want to pay for an average looking hooker in the 5-6 range. That's easily obtainable in the USA. I prefer to get what I can't get here in the USA for cheap prices. I also don't prefer the stuck up instgram models because they are hit or miss with service and I don't like to risk it on a short vacation. My sweet spot is the 7-8 range. For the cheapest of charlies who want girls at rock bottom prices and good service but the girls are in the 4-5 range, Centro is your best bet. Yes I know diamonds in the rough can be found in centro.

Here is the scale I use. No one ever has to use it but me. Of course, I know the scale is very subjective.

9-10: Very attractive and indemand women. Think Models and Actresses.

7-8: Very Attactive women but cannot obtain employment solely based on their looks. Think cute bartender or hot nurse at your local bar or hospital.

5-6: Cute girl with mostly nothing wrong with her but not quite a hot face or fit body. The girl you would be happy to fuck out of the bar for a night, but not going to call her the next day.

Low 5: Has one redeemable quality but the rest is just a mess. Think fat chick. Girl with hot face but fat sloppy body. Girl with ugly face but has kind of a fat ass.

4 and below: Druggies, older chicks, total slobs, etc. Girls you don't fuck with.

My scale is based off my peer groups preferences which are based off the girls we encounter and see everyday and of course women who are considered to be celebrities in my country. USA. Think of the major Hollywood actresses, funny how they all fit a certain profile. Intelligent, thin waist, nice ass, beautiful face. When I look at other cultures all around the world, the majority all seem to favor these same preferences. I am sure there is some strange sub cultures out there that have a fetish for fat girls with skinny legs or chicks with big tits that are really tall or something like that, but that is the exception, not the rule.

If you have a preference for a certain type of woman that is not the norm. God bless you, I could care less what you like. Personally, I think this forum should be about sharing information to make our lives and mongering experiences better. I think a 1-10 scale so we can find the appropriate venues that has the caliber of woman we want is useful. If we over complicate the scale and think so deeply in to it that we can't tell the difference between a crackhead druggy centro gluesniffer and a part time student instagram model, then I think we are doing ourselves a disservice.

The reason I know what women want is I have an IQ over 80 and the most basic common sense. Below 80 is legally considered mentally handicap in case anyone was wondering why I selected that number. Plus I have fucked dozens of women for free, maybe hundreds, I stopped counting decades ago. My close friends over the years combined have fucked thousands and we all constantly compare the girls we have had and this is also what I base what women want on. This is very simple stuff here. I don't even understand why anyone tries to argue this stuff and fuck it up. If someone gets turned on by fat chicks in their 40's with low self esteem, god bless them. But a fat chick in her 40's with low self esteem should not be rated highly on a 1-10 scale for purposes of exchanging information on the forum because the vast majority of men who are competitive in the dating game do not find that desirable. Ok I am going on a bit of a rant so I ll stop here. I hope my logic rubs off on some of you for the benefit of the forum and it was not my intention to offend anyone who has a different way of thinking. Except for JJBJ and Miamiboy haha.

[Mr Enternational]

People that say hookers don't charge them are lying. You know how many guys at Help told me they weren't paying. Tons. They were all liars. You are in the biggest working girl club and you aren't paying. Ok.

Maybe you have not had many hookers, because I have met plenty that did not charge me. Right now I mess with a chick in Thailand that works at a hotel during normal hours. She goes out to the discos some nights to find guys though. She always wants to come see me when she has free time and she has never mentioned needing money from me.

I remember one of my first times in Sosua pulling up to the Europa Hotel. There were always chicks outside on the driveway. Chick named Yennifer told me I will fuck you free today but next time you have to pay me. Speaking of Help. I was messing with a chick I met on Cupid that told me she worked in some type of office. One night I was standing in front of Help when she did not know I was in town. She came up and saw me all embarrassed. She said she was sorry and asked to come to the apartment with me but I told her no thanks. Soon after that she moved to the south of France.

Also recently. I had been messing with a chick in Peru the last 10 years. A couple of years ago she got married and moved to Europe. I posted something about her in the Lima thread at the end of last year and someone figured out who it was and sent it to her. She chewed me out for putting her on this site and admitted that she was a hooker before, but never charged me. The list goes on such as the porn star chick that worked at Monte Carlo that my buddy introduced me to.

[MiamiBoy1]

Did you eat an extra big bowl of passive-aggressive Corn Flakes today?

I am a bit overweight, but:

1. I'm in my 60's.

2. I'm employed.

3. Why would I, or anyone, want to get the same woman someone else is getting? Unless you're either into gang bangs or like eating semen secondhand.

4. I have no children. Therefore, no woman, or girl is young enough to be my granddaughter. However, if you must fantasize about incestuous relationships, a girl 40 years younger than me would be young enough to be my great granddaughter.

However:

1. She is young.

2. She is fit, especially now that she's training for competition again.

But she can't be my granddaughter. Maybe you can get mommy and daddy to explain that part to you again.

Now define "relationship. " see'Mon. Give me a definition. Next, explain in detail my interactions with the girl I refer to as "my girlfriend. " When you finish with that, tell me how she feels about all of it.

You live completely within a fantasy world. You imagine what people who you've never seen are doing and who they are doing it with, then you create emotions for all the imaginary people. In your fantasy world, you're at the top of food chain. You use your superior skills to find only the best of the best women, hundreds of them in Colombia. It's all very time consuming, and requires much effort. However, it's worth it. Right?

Unfortunately, reality doesn't support your fantasy. Using your own rating scale you declared you've only managed to score a few women better than one who I just consider above average. Then, there are those "hundreds" of average to above average women. With the actual time you've spent in Colombia, you would have to have been averaging between 2 and 4 women every day. I know guys who do that, have done it for several years, but they aren't running around claiming they're scoring only the best women. I'm estimating you've barely broken 30 women, not just in Colombia, in your life.

The funny thing is, you keep mentioning how the top girls won't even respond to you, but all I have to do is post that I'm in Medellin and the top girls are messaging me asking if I want to see them.

So, what do we have in a summary? We have an employed, a bit overweight gringo in his 60's, who doesn't live in Colombia permanently, claiming to have a genuine relationship (which, in simple words, could be defined as feeling love for someone, or having a close romantic and sexual connection) with a young, fit female competing athlete, who can't be his granddaughter, because the gringo has no kids, but is young enough to be one. Also, the said gringo is claiming every time he posts about his arrival in Medellin, the top girls of all Medellin message him wanting to meet. Also, we know that the gringo would fuck 75% of his target audience of women 18 to 32 yo, the gringo is not using the 1-10 scale or any other scale except the binary one, but somehow knows who the top women in Mde are and the top women in Medellin know who he is, and completely sucks at estimating how many women an ISG member has been with in the course of his life. Keep your long ass fairy tales coming.

[JjBee62]

I agree. You know what the issue is? These overweight unemployed slobs in their 50's are being delusional, thinking they get the same girls as successful men in their prime and for much less $. Heck, some even call them "girlfriends" and claim they have real relationships with young fit women who could be their granddaughters.

Did you eat an extra big bowl of passive-aggressive Corn Flakes today?

I am a bit overweight, but:

1. I'm in my 60's.

2. I'm employed.

3. Why would I, or anyone, want to get the same woman someone else is getting? Unless you're either into gang bangs or like eating semen secondhand.

4. I have no children. Therefore, no woman, or girl is young enough to be my granddaughter. However, if you must fantasize about incestuous relationships, a girl 40 years younger than me would be young enough to be my great granddaughter.

However:

1. She is young.

2. She is fit, especially now that she's training for competition again.

But she can't be my granddaughter. Maybe you can get mommy and daddy to explain that part to you again.

Now define "relationship. " see'Mon. Give me a definition. Next, explain in detail my interactions with the girl I refer to as "my girlfriend. " When you finish with that, tell me how she feels about all of it.

You live completely within a fantasy world. You imagine what people who you've never seen are doing and who they are doing it with, then you create emotions for all the imaginary people. In your fantasy world, you're at the top of food chain. You use your superior skills to find only the best of the best women, hundreds of them in Colombia. It's all very time consuming, and requires much effort. However, it's worth it. Right?

Unfortunately, reality doesn't support your fantasy. Using your own rating scale you declared you've only managed to score a few women better than one who I just consider above average. Then, there are those "hundreds" of average to above average women. With the actual time you've spent in Colombia, you would have to have been averaging between 2 and 4 women every day. I know guys who do that, have done it for several years, but they aren't running around claiming they're scoring only the best women. I'm estimating you've barely broken 30 women, not just in Colombia, in your life.

The funny thing is, you keep mentioning how the top girls won't even respond to you, but all I have to do is post that I'm in Medellin and the top girls are messaging me asking if I want to see them.

[JjBee62]

I can't be believe you two are still arguing over this shit haha. Here's my two cents. The 1-10 scale is of course subjective, however if you took concensus from high status in demand men who can obtain almost any woman they desire, you will see they prefer certain types. This is the scale miamiboy is more likely to agree with. Now a man who is decades removed from being able to obtain young fit intelligent women with many options WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR IT, is going to be attracted to women who are going to be receptive to his sexual desires. This means what he finds attractive is going to be vastly different from what a fit wealthy successful intelligent man in his prime is going to find attractive. This is why young fit dudes with cash don't fuck ugly overweight moms in their 40's. This is why beautiful fit women in their 20's don't fuck overweight unemployed slobs in their 50's.

My point is this, the 1-10 scale should be based on the preferences of prime aged fit successful males who are most desired by the most in demand females. That scale is pretty consistent across cultures, nations, and ethnicities. Fat ass, thin waist, sexy face, down to get fucked hard. Hmmmm not rocket science. I am sure many members will find a way to argue this shit and fuck up the scale so we can't accurately exchange information for our benefit to increase our level of enjoyment during our mongering experiences though. Such is the forum.

When I was a young, fit dude with cash, there was no need for cash to get women. All any guy had to do then (and it hasn't changed) is just talk to women. If someone my age 30 years ago would have told me they need to travel to third world countries in order to get laid, and then they have to pay for sex, I'd have bought them a shot and told them that was the saddest story I'd ever heard.

In fact, I keep hearing that same story from "young fit dudes with cash", except now I just laugh my ass off at the poor saps, who never managed to get laid without buying it, trying to explain why I can't have sex with the women I'm having sex with.

But enough about your situation. Let's talk about your 1-10 scale (because in a thread full of stupid shit it wins the golden septic tank trophy).

First we have to survey the most in demand women to determine:

1. What they consider to be prime age for a man.

2. Their definition of success.

3. Their definition of "fit. ".

4. Their fitness preferences for prime aged, successful men.

Then, after analyzing all the data, contact all the men who statistically fall into the top of the 'prime aged, successful fit" group and get them to create a 1-10 scale. After analyzing all of that data, you finally have a scale which you can then apply to describe a woman who you may or may not ever be able to fuck.

Shit. Forgot 1 crucial step. First, we have to determine who are the most in demand women. I'm guessing we're supposed to get that from the prime age, fit, successful men, but we can't know who they are until we ask the most in demand women. You've created an infinite loop.

Here's the key question:

Why do I need to ask a bunch of other men whether or not I want to fuck a woman?

Another fun question:

How do you know what type of women any man who you've never met, never talked to, never even said "Hello," to, is interested in?

Plus the companion question:

How do you know what any woman, who you've never seen, never chatted with, never even heard a first hand description of, is looking for in a man?

A final note:

You obviously don't know a fucking thing about any nations, cultures or ethnicities if you believe beauty standards are consistent across them all.

[DramaFree11]

I agree. You know what the issue is? These overweight unemployed slobs in their 50's are being delusional, thinking they get the same girls as successful men in their prime and for much less $. Heck, some even call them "girlfriends" and claim they have real relationships with young fit women who could be their granddaughters.

MiamiBoy these guys are clowns / total idiots. They would not know what to do with a hot chick. I am in my 50's and killing, but I do pay market value, honestly a little less, for what I get back in return. Many of the girls I am meeting spend the night or there are no rules. What more can I ask for.

Let it go and move on. You have proved your point.