Stupid shit in Medellin

[JustTK]

I quoted the exact definition of socialism. Those are not even my words. You are the one who is making up definitions.

And your inconsistency astonishes me. Did you own the business or did the workers?

Elvis, it amzaes me that you clearly know zero about socialism yet you state your views so authoratively.

"I quoted the exact definition" - You think there is only one definition of socialism on the internet? Good grief man. Where did you look, the official Repuplican website? Try this one:

"In socialist society power is in the hands of the working people, headed by the working class. They own the means of production. ".

https://www.marxists.org/subject/eco...pe/pe-ch28.htm

As I told you before, state ownership of everything is a form of communism, not socialism. Under socialism a government would provide public services and often own public utilities and resources. For the people. I suggest you do some studying before before forming your views on socialism. Then you can share them too.

Yes, China is all state in reality. It mimics capitalism to sucker people in.

And China was dirt poor. It adopted private ownership and the country saw its wealth explode. Now they are tightening things up again and are going to get killed. You do not see what is happening.

Utter nonsense again. Just to give you a modern example. Tiktok - under Chinese ownership yet it is a platform that is banned in China. Why would the Chinese Govt own a platofrm and then ban it? Ownership rights are protected under Article 39 of The Property Law of China.

Yes, there is some of that but that is against the 4th amendment, and there are those of us screaming about our government doing just that. And even when it does take something of value, it does or is supposed to do so using the law of eminent domain, the right of a government or its agent to expropriate private property for public use, with payment of compensation.

What about the US seizure of Russian assets? Its freezing of bank accounts. It acts with total impunity. And furthermore, who sets the law?? China make make its own law and sieze property, just like Venezuela did. But its ok when USA does it, but its not okay according the Law of Elvis when someone else does it that you don't like.

How can you be championing "the worker" and then paying sex workers such a pittance? How come you are not advocating for the "sex worker" getting more money and blasting guys bragging about how little they pay? How come you do not think paying so little affects sex workers and their dignity? You do not have to answer. I know the reason.

Actually a street sex worker epitomises socialism. He / she owns his / her own means of production. Having a pimp would make it capitalism. I don't pay any girl a pittance, I pay them more than the market rate. And I don't set the market rate. That is set by Colombian clients and workers in the Colombian economy. And I don't judge treating people with dignity to be measured by how much I pay them. Just to show you how stupid that is. Lets say I fucked your GF. If I offered her more money than you, would that mean I was showing her more dignity than you?

It is very clear to me that it is you that does NOT respect sex workers, bcos you think money can buy you everything.

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis, it astonishes me how you can speak with so much authority on almost every issue yet your ignorance seems to know no bounds. I beseech you to look up what socialism means. Corporate ownership by the workers. You clearly cannot even tell the difference between socialism and communism.

I quoted the exact definition of socialism. Those are not even my words. You are the one who is making up definitions.

And your inconsistency astonishes me. Did you own the business or did the workers?

Terrific. I gave you 50% private ownership as a gift in this conversation, but you won't even accept that. Ok, so according to you, China is all state. So based on economic growth over past 30-40 years, China wins hands down, state ownership wins hands down. Thanks for making my case..

So you admit to making up the 50%? LOL. Yes, China is all state in reality. It mimics capitalism to sucker people in.

And China was dirt poor. It adopted private ownership and the country saw its wealth explode. Now they are tightening things up again and are going to get killed. You do not see what is happening.

And why do you have such double standards? Don't you know that USA also takes your assets whenever it wants?

Yes, there is some of that but that is against the 4th amendment, and there are those of us screaming about our government doing just that. And even when it does take something of value, it does or is supposed to do so using the law of eminent domain, the right of a government or its agent to expropriate private property for public use, with payment of compensation.

Don't you know that USA has such huge loopholes in its accounting law that huge banks and investment companies can go bust overnight?

Yes, that is called capitalism. Do you have a better accounting system than the American one? Obviously, you have not looked at China's.

You use an appropriate word here my "choice". So why do you judge me on *your* choice when it is clearly *my* choice? And what does that have to do with dignity? Please explain how a person's choice of sex worker impacts upon that person's ability to treat said sex worker with dignity?

How can you be championing "the worker" and then paying sex workers such a pittance? How come you are not advocating for the "sex worker" getting more money and blasting guys bragging about how little they pay? How come you do not think paying so little affects sex workers and their dignity? You do not have to answer. I know the reason.

What cracks me up about this is the guys with all the virtue signaling are the cheapest ones on the forum.

[JustTK]

You do not even get what socialism is: socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. You CANNOT own a business in a socialist society. Do you even know what that word means? Talk about ignorant.

Elvis, it astonishes me how you can speak with so much authority on almost every issue yet your ignorance seems to know no bounds. I beseech you to look up what socialism means. Corporate ownership by the workers. You clearly cannot even tell the difference between socialism and communism.

There is no 50-50 ownership. Foreigners cannot buy land and the stock sold by Chinese companies, are called VIE which confer no ownership. The Chinese government can take your shares all at once, and Chinese accounting standards are a joke. The one thing China had going for it, cheap labor, is no longer cheap. Mexico has cheaper labor. China is a ponzi scheme that is going to fall down in my lifetime.

Terrific. I gave you 50% private ownership as a gift in this conversation, but you won't even accept that. Ok, so according to you, China is all state. So based on economic growth over past 30-40 years, China wins hands down, state ownership wins hands down. Thanks for making my case.

And why do you have such double standards? Don't you know that USA also takes your assets whenever it wants? Don't you know that USA has such huge loopholes in its accounting law that huge banks and investment companies can go bust overnight?

And your choice of sex worker and the company you keep here reflects that you do not treat workers with dignity.

You use an appropriate word here my "choice". So why do you judge me on *your* choice when it is clearly *my* choice? And what does that have to do with dignity? Please explain how a person's choice of sex worker impacts upon that person's ability to treat said sex worker with dignity?

[Mtndew704]

They are not exactly the most desired women..

I'm in long term relationship with a Dominican woman here in my town and she's the mother of my child. I went to jail on a probation violation stemming from marijuana trafficking case I had a few years back.

[Elvis 2008]

All developed economies are "mixed economies" with both socialist and capitalist features. Show me an electable conservative outside of some fringe local election that's against Social Security and Medicare, student loans, public parks, public education, anti-trust measures, building codes and fire safety, etc. , etc. , all which is socialism.

No, that is not true. Look at the Heritage ratings. The four criteria of economic freedom are rule of law, government size, regulatory efficiency, and open markets. https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking.

Social security is a system the citizen pays into. Student loans are made by private companies. Anti-trust measures are in place for economic freedom. And capitalism does not mean there can be NO public ownership.

A number of western Euro countries have heavy elements of democratic socialism, especially the Scandinavian and are quite successful.

Nordic countries are labeled as more economically free than the USA. https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking.

You are not going to have a prosperous economy without rule of law, private ownership, a fair regulatory system, and open markets. China is #154 on the list which is a strong indicator it is going down.

I think you are mistaking high taxes and extensive social programs as socialism. The issue conservatives have with taxes are their inefficiencies. It is having to pay school taxes but the public schools are so shitty you have to home school or send your kids to private schools for example. It is not paying taxes I object to but the abysmal return I see on them. The Nordic nations get a much better return on the taxes they pay when it comes to education.

[Mtndew704]

You just said you don't fuck scam artists. But still scared to bring them back to your place?

If its a normal chick I met somewhere in the city and she's got a real job then yeah no problem. But a random chica who's only job is sucking dick? The $5 love motel down the street will do just fine. I also have a Dominican girl here in the states so TLNs have little interest to me these days.

[Elvis 2008]

You are correct. It has been settled. Compare the last 30-40 years of stagnant Western growth caused by ever growing levels of inequality, with China. The nation with a 50-50 hybrid state-private ownership, and the only nation with a growth rate over 3 times that of the USA, now surpassing the USA on all economic indicators, and soon to replace it as the leading superpower. Yes, it has been well and truly settled.

There is no 50-50 ownership. Foreigners cannot buy land and the stock sold by Chinese companies, are called VIE which confer no ownership. The Chinese government can take your shares all at once, and Chinese accounting standards are a joke. The one thing China had going for it, cheap labor, is no longer cheap. Mexico has cheaper labor. China is a ponzi scheme that is going to fall down in my lifetime.

A really stupid statement. I have spent most of my life running my own business bcos I couldn't stand being a rat in a treadmill, like the other memebers of capitalist society. Owners who work in businesses, as well as all managers, would benefit from that business success in a socialist society. Truly ignorant comment Elvis. Management is crucial to success..

You do not even get what socialism is: socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. You CANNOT own a business in a socialist society. Do you even know what that word means? Talk about ignorant.

In your capitalist worldview, yes, where companies have the right to explout its workers. Not in my world, where people are treated with dignity.

And your choice of sex worker and the company you keep here reflects that you do not treat workers with dignity. You see eye to eye with this guy MtnDew who lives in the dog eat dog world.

The best workers I have had I would call family. There is trust beyond friendship. I still talk with them all the time even if we have gone our separate ways. On the other there are thieving scum bags I have had work for me that I would not throw a cracker to if there were dying and hungry on the street.

Strata 6 girls would not be offering themselves as paid sex to some materialist, egotistical bloke from a facist state.

And here we go again with more mental masturbation. Socialism is good even though you have no clue what it is. Workers are good when they vary in quality tremendously and you are now pushing your ideals on Strata 6 women who like workers vary widely.

[Elvis 2008]

What's wrong with midgets and big booty chicas?

They are not exactly the most desired women.

Because I don't bring working girls back to my place, you do.

Shoutout to MB and the other simps for taking care of these ladies financial needs so they can focus on getting high and fucking with me in the love motel.

You aren't sleeping with strata 6 chicas because of your good looks or personalities. Quit lying to yourself.

Shit fresh out of jail ready to go to Medellin.

I am just shaking my head at these lines. I do not have a problem going to the equivalent of the hood to find a woman for a short term transaction, but that was not my preferred venue.

The problem with you is that you live the dog eat dog world where stealing dominates everything. All the women do it, and if a man trusts a woman and takes care of her needs, you brag about how you are going to steal from the guy. Strata 6 women are just bigger thieves.

I am not sure if the jail line is real, but given your attitude with theft, it may as well be.

The whole notion of a long term relationship with a woman worthy of trust does not exist in your world. You expect no morals and brag about having none. That is sad.

[MiamiBoy1]

Because I don't bring working girls back to my place, you do.

You just said you don't fuck scam artists. But still scared to bring them back to your place?

[Mtndew704]

What makes you think you are immune from being robbed? Your friend Gabacho was robbed by some cheap Centro hooker in his own house. If you think low priced skanks do not rob or steal, you are being delusional. Can't wait to see your report of being drugged and robbed.

Because I don't bring working girls back to my place, you do.

[MiamiBoy1]

I don't fuck scam artists. MB going to wake up without his iphone and laptop 1 morning wondering where his high priced hooker ran off too.

What makes you think you are immune from being robbed? Your friend Gabacho was robbed by some cheap Centro hooker in his own house. If you think low priced skanks do not rob or steal, you are being delusional. Can't wait to see your report of being drugged and robbed.

[Mtndew704]

The original post.

And who he is fucking:



Curvy is what cheap guys use to describe fat. I guess I am curvy too then. LOL.

And what he pays:

And who he is not fucking:

How many times are you Medellin morons going to put your feet in your mouth?

What's wrong with midgets and big booty chicas?

[Mtndew704]

Thankfully, we fuck different women. Shoutout to all Centro rats and cheap Charlies for keeping the uglies busy and supporting drugs and shower heads sellers.

I don't fuck scam artists. MB going to wake up without his iphone and laptop 1 morning wondering where his high priced hooker ran off too.

[Eszpresszo]

It's possible that people are fibbing to get to senior status but I know that at least 75 guys have contacted me and come down and maybe 7 or so wrote a trip reportso if anything there's way dudes who suck up information without contributing than the other way around.

Besides although there's no Clock Tower or Parque Llreas strolls there's tons of Casas and the Apartastudios in Granada are jam packed so there's guys on this board or not grabbing chicas and taking them to their room, I've seen several obvious mongers when hanging out with mongers there not to mention some of the mongers I met in different casas.

And the guy who I'd say is the Man when it comes to Cali coochie hadn't even heard of this board and won't join.

In reality Posts generate posts people are copycats in that regard..

Finally. Somebody speaks some truth. Yes, you are putting it very politely when you say people are copycats. I think it was last fall, I read a TR here and it seemed to be well written. Then I realized said poster had gone to all the places I had gone to, the same amount of times I went. And quite frankly all those TRs that came immediately after mine were all at the same places I reported and full of errors that were a huge red flag. And that is the main reason I stopped posting TRs for a long time. I had no interest in providing fodder for fap fantasies.

Yes, I have seen some gringos in Dr. Amor. They were sitting in the waiting area, talking way too loud in American English. Then there was another gringo ahead of me in the line to pay for services at the window. He had this look of shame on his face, like he had been caught doing something bad by another gringo. It was so pathetic I had to contain a giggle. But, that place sucked despite its outstanding structure / setup. At least that was the case at the end of September, 2019.

Fortunately, I have learned some basic Spanish, and started to access the Colombian and Peruvian forums. That's showed me options that aren't discussed here on this site. And once you get familiar with a country, you learn to recognize your pleasure palaces. I have mostly been traveling in Brazil since the pandemic, and retired at the end of last June, and I have mostly been in Brazil since then. I can converse in Brazilian Portuguese and can find my way around many cities well enough to find the vice zones on my own. Which is good, because at this point the Brazil forums have little up to date intel. It goes without saying, nothing beats "being there" if you want to know what is truly going on.

Anyways, thanks for your input.

[MiamiBoy1]

Personal experience? Please, boy. Fantasy would be a better word. Boy, if in fact, you had as much experience with this hobby that you would have us believe, you wouldn't be spewing bile at other board members and ranting about shower heads. What you would doing,(assuming you wanted to post anything here) would either be a) trying to cut through the crap and fiction (as I am doing with you right now), or B) posting real trip reports that actual have useful information for anyone who actually is going abroad for the purpose of punting. If you don't know what a TR is supposed to be, then check out my recent posts on my experiences in Florianopolis, Curitiba, Arequipa and Lima. If it would hurt your pride to do that, then go back several years and look at the various forums, ANY FORUM of any country and you will see how detailed and informative contributions were the standard. Boy, as it stands now, nothing you have ever posted recently has any value whatsoever. Just rants and vague claims. I guess incel losers can't imagine seducing an ordinary girl, so they make up fantasies about paying for it. Right?

Boy, I've noticed that you and your other bellicose pals seem to have a problem with me posting my passport stamps. Why is that? What's wrong with authenticity and veracity? Because it's something you wouldn't be able to do, right? I But, if you want to prove me wrong, go ahead and post your passport stamps here like I do. I won't be holding my breath.

You are the only weirdo on this board who posts passport stamps all the time and begs other members to do the same. I told you already, nobody fucking cares. And I don't have to prove anything to anyone, especially to a jerk like you.

Once again, there is no significant mongering scene in Centro nor are there a bunch of prostitutes hanging around Parque Lleras. Really. People who talk about mongering there are living in a fantasy, and a stupid one, at that. Anyone who has ever been to decent brothel in Colombia or hooked up with a decent prepago will know that.

Your reports, specifically about Medellin, have very little, if any, credibility, after you you made the above statement. I don't care how much time you spent in Medellin, but you have to be fucking blind not to see the obvious things.