Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

It's already been demonstrated, in fact a few posts ago, that this local and Argentine national was never called a friend by myself but a "wingman," while it was never proven that he was part of the crime. After a lot of reflection I'd put the odds at 70/30 against. I used the word "friend" in quotation marks once in response to JJBee who had called him a friend. So yea, you simply rehash the same lies that were corrected a few posts ago, while completely ignoring other posts where you were caught in lies. That's the sort of MO that will get you left alone and secure for you the last word, but you won't win anything. That's because you aren't arguing against me, but only the content you've made up. If that ultimately makes you feel remotely significant, while friendless and living out your final laps of life in the 3rd World, I'm pleased to oblige. LOL.

The lesson for the audience is to pay close attention to your drink. I took my eyes off mine for a moment. This especially applies to night clubs where there are distractions. In the past I've recommended bottled water in clubs for near complete safety, while screwing the cap back on after every sip. This occurred in 2017 when there was little talk of these crimes in our circles. I've had no trouble since, but anyone including me can be got. Never feel like you have it all under control. Always stay on alert. There's also the option of vacationing in safer cities which we all must weigh on a personal level.

Sorry, I've been somewhat busy.

1. There is a huge difference between "demonstrated" and "stated. " As an example, I could state I can juggle. I haven't demonstrated the skill, merely made a claim. You've never demonstrated that "the Argentine national" was a wingman and not a friend, I'm not sure that's even possible.

For the record, when you told me the story, at a table by the street, at the pool hall on La 70, where you were also perusing fake Ray Ban sunglasses from a street vendor, you stated you had been with a Colombian friend and claimed he had also been robbed and lost more than you. You claimed the drugging had occurred at Pico why Botella, which I believe has a new name now. When you later told the story, you stated that you thought your friend had been part of the robbery, and that you thought it occurred at Luna Lunera.

In your defense, you were still recovering from the drugging when you told me the story and your mind was not working right from the drugs. It's quite possible you got details wrong, or didn't feel like explaining why you would use a Argentine wingman in Colombia. Since you told the story, I have referred to the Argentine wingman as a Colombian friend, simply because you stated to me he was a Colombian friend. Since you haven't demonstrated otherwise, I'll assume, in your vulnerable moment, when the only person in the world you felt you comfortable telling the story to was sitting in front of you, you didn't intentionally mislead me about the nationality and status of your Colombian friend.

Just an editorial note:

Getting set up, drugged and robbed by a wingman isn't much better than having a friend do it. A friend is someone you party with, while a wingman is supposed to be someone who is watching your back.

2. It is a good lesson to watch your drink. A better lesson is to not drink shots with strangers.

3. From your other post, it has been over 6 years. Why is the elapsed time significant for your bad experience, but irrelevant for my experience?

4. Also from your other post, 2 true friends in 64 or 65 years isn't a treasure, it's a sad tale. Admittedly, there are many levels of friendship.

Another editorial note:

Why do you ask Villainy to do the same things you have repeatedly refused to do when responding to my posts?

[Paulie97]

Say, weren't you the one that ended up drugged and robbed through your own blissful ignorance thinking that you had found a 3rd friend.

It's already been demonstrated, in fact a few posts ago, that this local and Argentine national was never called a friend by myself but a "wingman," while it was never proven that he was part of the crime. After a lot of reflection I'd put the odds at 70/30 against. I used the word "friend" in quotation marks once in response to JJBee who had called him a friend. So yea, you simply rehash the same lies that were corrected a few posts ago, while completely ignoring other posts where you were caught in lies. That's the sort of MO that will get you left alone and secure for you the last word, but you won't win anything. That's because you aren't arguing against me, but only the content you've made up. If that ultimately makes you feel remotely significant, while friendless and living out your final laps of life in the 3rd World, I'm pleased to oblige. LOL.

The lesson for the audience is to pay close attention to your drink. I took my eyes off mine for a moment. This especially applies to night clubs where there are distractions. In the past I've recommended bottled water in clubs for near complete safety, while screwing the cap back on after every sip. This occurred in 2017 when there was little talk of these crimes in our circles. I've had no trouble since, but anyone including me can be got. Never feel like you have it all under control. Always stay on alert. There's also the option of vacationing in safer cities which we all must weigh on a personal level.

[Paulie97]

I moved into an apartment over a year ago but I suppose you were too busy arguing with other members to catch that.

That tit for tat with another member who very much loves to argue ended last month. I was at the tail end of an argument he had with another that lasted six months. Where was your clownish sanctimoniousness then? LOL Way to go leading with your chin.

I have no idea where you live or what you live in, as all we have to go on is what you choose to tell us and you are a proven liar. I addressed some of that in a post to you in late November but you ignored it. Why not grow a pair, go back and answer it? Also tell us about your "good source" that I stayed in hostels when I've never darkened the doorway of one. Show evidence that I claimed here to work for near minimum wage. Link us to the post that doesn't exist.

But if you do live in Medellin you live in a city where the cops will go away for $20, and where the locals regularly scorn and beat them up. They are about as useless as the courts. What a downgraded retirement huh? I stand by my original statement. You are friendless and destined to at best die alone in a 3rd World hospital.

And yes two "TRUE" friends in a lifetime are a treasure trove.

The drugging story has been told a number of times by myself here. I lowered my guard for a moment in a night club. If I'm self-destructive then I'm quite lousy at it. It was a one off event over 6 years ago and the loses were next to nil. Since then I've made several trips to Medellin, a few to France, and am now retired comfortably in Florida, state employee pension, social security, plus recently boosted savings from an inheritance. I'm in excellent health, and unlike you, I don't avoid hills but love the cardiac workout involved in walking up them. And again you do yourself no favors mocking someone for getting drugged. It could happen to any of us as no one has their guard all the way up all the time.

Regarding useful posts from yours truly, the search function is your friend. I post on a lot of different threads in different forums. Interests have been the "hobby" plus Covid and the war in Ukraine.

Again, Happy New Year one and all.

[Villainy]

Coming from someone camped in a 3rd World hotel, will die in a 3rd World hospital if you aren't first zipped up in a bag in the street, it's safe to say you've never had one, much less two.

P.S. Keep that head on a swivel.

I moved into an apartment over a year ago but I suppose you were too busy arguing with other members to catch that. And don't worry about me getting zipped up in a bag. Although I do appreciate the concern. Say, weren't you the one that ended up drugged and robbed through your own blissful ignorance thinking that you had found a 3rd friend.

Instead of kvetching about other people talking about your self-destructive carelessness why don't you just come clean and tell people how you managed to get yourself drugged and robbed? Who knows, some people might respect you for sharing that story which might help others avoid a similar fate.

But isn't that the point Paulie? If you ever spent your time posting information that might actually benefit other members on here instead of attacking everyone else, you might actually make another friend.

[Fedor420]

Having 15 straight pages if you guys debating how dangerous Medellin is extremely annoying. Any time anyone asks a question you scream RTFF. Then you do and it's 15 pages of you guys posting links of dumb ass youtubers making shit up to get views. Is fucking Colombia. Yes things happen here, if you big babies are scared of everything go sit in a robe in an FKK. "I carry 3 separate wallets and nine burner phones" god damn you guys are annoying.

Fourth visit to MDE since 2018. Due to the price I never went to Loutron but I've always been very curious. Finally decided to go just for the experience. 8 girls in the lineup, incredible quality. Like exactly what you think of when you think of hot Colombian women. Was 400 k with cash 480 k with card. Expensive but like I said this was just a one time curiosity thing. The main reason I wanted to visit was to get the girls number so we can meet at my place, and possibly get a much lower rate. Got her WhatsApp she quoted in USD, which is annoying, and was $150, down to $120 after I said no. Said sorry but no again. So it's back to the casas and centro I go.

Ok you guys can back to posting useless info now.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Bullshit. Everyone knows there are beauty queens and models on Seeking who are only looking for love. I know that Seeking means Seeking Love. Why are you trying to lie and say it means Seeking Suckers?

Seeking aka Seeking Suckers LOL not unlike Gustos or La Isla LOL.

I tried it for 90 days and didn't bother with one turd on that whole website.

And was to 6 different countries during that time that I collected numbers from, that dood that owns it, really loves chumps as do the females.

Its a perfect tag team, if you're gullible enough to join and overpay (and stay a member LOL) you're the perfect target.

Just like Gustos, anyone look at how much a bottle of "Dom" is on the menu lately ROTFLMMFAO.

[Paulie97]

You've had only TWO true friends in your life? That isn't fortunate, that is sad.

Coming from someone camped in a 3rd World hotel, will die in a 3rd World hospital if you aren't first zipped up in a bag in the street, it's safe to say you've never had one, much less two.

P.S. Keep that head on a swivel.

[Villainy]

There's a quick point of clarification. The Argentine was identified by me as a "wingman," not a "friend. " The latter is JJBee's word and a search bears that out, my name with keyword Argentine, this while we are on the topic of making things up. My use of the word was in quotation marks in response to his use. He may or may not have been involved in the drugging. On review I've had two true friends in my life and consider myself very fortunate.

You've had only TWO true friends in your life? That isn't fortunate, that is sad.

[Paulie97]

There's a quick point of clarification. The Argentine was identified by me as a "wingman," not a "friend. " The latter is JJBee's word and a search bears that out, my name with keyword Argentine, this while we are on the topic of making things up. My use of the word was in quotation marks in response to his use. He may or may not have been involved in the drugging. On review I've had two true friends in my life and consider myself very fortunate.

[Paulie97]

If I'm honest I have to admit Exito cashiers are as slow as molasses. .

I missed JJBee's novel / filibuster from early this month, scanned over it and will make a few comments.

Let's revisit the timeline, shall we?

Without a doubt, to recent events, late last month that represent a long pattern you persistently avoid talking about while trying to drown it out with novels. It's a lot more relevant than Whatsapp banter from 6 years ago about a cashier then a Venezuelan hooker, that I eventually fucked as she showed up in the lineup in Affie. But yea we have all observed it. The evidence is all over this thread and the main Medellin thread. You love flame wars, have been at it for years here, and especially trolling newbs while pretending that you are so smart, competent, and superior. Attacks on you are fair game. I've served you up some, and none of that justifies publishing information regarding a drugging that you agreed to keep in confidence. That is a major douche move, and others here have said the same. You also do yourself no favors mocking anyone for getting drugged. That could happen to anyone, as all one has to do is lower their guard for a moment. Also, back in 2017 we weren't so cognizant of these crimes. In my case it was a one off event.

Also what was shared about you wasn't in confidence, but all volunteered by you. It's reported here to demonstrate that you aren't the brain and bigshot that you claim to be. Yes you failed to finish college, failed at multiple marriages, the same at multiple careers, habitually had your pocket picked in Medellin by strippers and hookers, with the crescendo in the same city, as you at nearly 60 years of age were left stranded without money after running a camera for a webcam model, all after bending over and allowing yourself to be gipped week after week for a total of a year's pay. That's all your admission. And yes, you in our meetings wouldn't shut up about how webcamming was the future, and how you were on the verge of securing your fortune. But in the aftermath with great leaps of cognitive dissonance, claim you knew all along that it was a "long shot" and "at least I got an apartment for free. " You had a room whatever, but you have a lot of explaining to do, thus the novels.

And last but not least, if there's a 21 year girl in your life you most certainly are sending money. We all know this. You can lie and say you aren't, but no one believes you. Which goes back to your favorite kind of evidence, anecdotes, personal stories that can't be verified. Convenient huh? Go on and on, "I, me, my" write something so long, anecdotal, and boring that few will bother reading it, then crawl back in your corner and claim victory. Now type up another novel, that I may or may not pay attention to.

Happy New Year one and all. Make it a great 2024, and stay safe out there.

[Elvis 2008]

Seekingarrangement is the only site I know, you pay more than $100/ M US and the women don't. What you get is liars, overweight old milfs, ugly twisted former pros or expensive as shiit young women who are no better looking than what you get in a club. Not only you pay a hefty monthly fee but you expose yourself, real photo for the world to see that you are trying to be a sugar daddy. The effort and time it consumes searching and chatting will blow your mind.

It seems like the Medellin moron cult is aching for a fight, and your post has pumped them up. They are going to disappointed. For the record, I never paid more than a hundred a month nor did I ever post a photo.

Seeking is a big ripoff. I tried it for a Month, most of them wasted my time, blah blah for days only when I tried to arrange something they back away, one came and she was a twisted ugly old rag who was a former street prostitute, another I met, she was average but ok looking and she said she is not sex for a hire but want real Sugar / baby / Daddy relationship although I made it clear to her what I wanted and she agreed.
If you have money to throw away then get one of these who want thousands per month only for you to be with them few times. If you are trying to find sex for pay as you go, do not use this site.

I think you posted you have not been to Colombia Zendunka, and I never met any woman asking for that much in Colombia.

I was last on seeking in the USA in 2018. Over 3 months, I had 3 dates. Thankfully, two of them panned out but the number of scammers went through the roof. Seeking was awesome in 2009, good in 2013, and flat out sucked in 2018.

In Mexico, I used it in 2019. I got a dozen numbers, had 4 dates, and got one long term prospect. If someone told me seeking was not worth it then, I would not have argued with them.

Then the pandemic / scamdemic hit. I read all I could about Covid and got to see cases myself. The vaccine worked well early on and I got the injection as soon as I could. I did not get the second injection because I read there was no proof it was really needed. Then the authorities required you to have it to travel and I got the second shot. I took common sense precautions, had no issues, and I enjoyed dirt cheap travel and lodging.

So in the Medelln moron cult, there were some guys who got fake vaccine cards. There was one guy who was so sick he was in a hospital right before going to Colombia, decided he did not have Covid symptoms, went to Colombia, spread it to God knows how many people, and when he tried to return to the USA had to isolate himself after testing positive. There was yet another moron who locked himself in his basement for 2 years and said if he got sick, he would die in his house versus going to a hospital. All this time the morons were lecturing others on how smart they were about Covid. You cannot make this stuff up.

I had also used seeking in Colombia prior to the scamdemic in 2019. I got like 30 responses, got a dozen or so dates, and found a handful of keepers. I would have said it was good then not great, but I would have recommended guys use it.

Then the scamdemic hits. In Mexico, I am getting dozens of responses. More importantly, now I am getting women who are stunning and had to quit work. This was a gold rush like I have never seen before. Prior to the scamdemic, the top girl I met was maybe an 8, but post Covid, I literally met about a half dozen of the 9-10 types. Mexico never shut down or had a travel ban.

On the other hand, Colombia did. All but essential workers were laid off and the women who could no longer work were hard up for cash, and they were banned from leaving their homes for most of the day. They had nothing to do but watch TV and be on line. The response I was getting were unreal, the mother of all gold rushes. I stopped at close to 200 and had to rank them on an Excel spreadsheet. Seriously. Once the travel ban ended, I had an epic run.

And I told the forum everything I was doing in real time, and one guy did like me. The rest of the Medellin moron cult just sat on their hands and balked. I can say now. If you were not on seeking then, you were a fucking idiot, and these guys were not on seeking. That is why your post has made them feel so good.

Shortly after the travel ban ended, I hooked up with my gal and have not used the site since. So if you are saying seeking sucks these days in the USA and Tijuana, then yeah, I would agree with you. My guess is it would be decent in the rest of Mexico and okay in Colombia, but I could not swear to it.

[Knowledge]

If I'm honest I have to admit Exito cashiers are as slow as molasses. .

Detective Paulie of the ISG Paulice force is out there making deductions. Unfortunately, you're deducting from zero.

Let's revisit the timeline, shall we?

April 2017 I arrived in Medellin. Sometime early July of the same year I received a PM from Paulie97. The gist of the message was that you enjoyed reading my posts, were in Medellin and would like to meet me. At that time, I had no idea who you were because you never posted. We met at a little bar in Laureles, drank beer, talked and eventually went to your favorite casa. I don't know the name because I never had the urge to return. It was the least impressive casa I visited in Medellin. However, I did pick a girl and she performed to my satisfaction. You picked a girl and it turned out there was an odor issue. We left, you expressed a desire to return, I headed to the Metro and went home.

Within a day or so you wanted to hang out with me again, this time in Parque Lleras. I was meeting with another person from ISG, who was also meeting someone else. After a drink, you and I went to Jenson's Bar, drank beer and stayed late. So far, so good. Shortly thereafter was the first sign not all was right in the mind of Paulie. It seems you were stuck waiting in line at Exito. You spent a lot of time complaining about the incompetence of Colombians. My response was that it was something you should expect. Cashiers in Colombia move slow under the best circumstances. At which point you began attacking me, nothing too serious, but it was obvious you only wanted someone to justify your victim status.

Then the real trouble began. You had told me about a Venezuelan girl who hung out near your hotel with a bunch of street rats. She was your target and you spent a fair amount of money trying to get her to fuck you, all to no avail. In a true sign of desperation, you decided to buy pizza for her and her friends, hoping your generosity would win her over. Not only did your ploy fail, it ultimately led you right here, taking out your frustration with your failure on me. None of the Venezuelan street rats thanked you for the free pizza. When you messaged me the next day about the grave injustice, I asked what you expected. First thing, if you give a gift expecting something in return, it's not a gift. If you expect something in return, you should express your terms in advance. Every monger knows that.

My failure to sympathize with the terrible injustice of a bunch of borderline criminals failing to thank you for cheap pizza opened the floodgates. You proceeded to rant and insult me for the next few hours. What did I do? I offered to take you around Medellin, to spend a day getting you away from the constant diet of beer, viagra and cheap hookers, all on my dime. Am I lying? After you spent hours attacking me, my response was to help you, at my expense, to get away from the stress which was obviously affecting your judgement. Your response to my offer? "Fuck you. ".

Fast forward, probably to September. You returned to Medellin and sought me out. You actually came to Parque Lleras for the sole purpose of finding me. I was ready to go home, and agreed to meet you the following day, when you told me about being drugged and robbed. You wanted me to post about it, without revealing your name, which I did. Let that sink in for a bit. After your worst experience in Medellin, one which could have killed you, your first reaction was to seek me out, tell me of your ordeal and ask me to tell your story. With all of your mongering experience, when things were at the bottom, the only person you could turn to was a guy who you had told to fuck off. What does that say about you? What does it say about me?

I told your story, as closely as possible to what you told me. However, I made a minor mistake. It had no effect on the story, but it set you off with another profanity filled attack on me. At that point, after all of my attempts to be reasonable, after my willingness to not hold your previous attacks against you, I said fuck it and identified you as the victim. Let's add in just a bit more spice. On several occasions, since your first insane outburst, whenever I have argued with another ISG member, you have given out personal or inaccurate information about me. Still interested in talking about integrity?

I will ask again. Is any of that untrue? You know it isn't. Now let's look at your deductions.

You last saw me over 6 years ago. Any deduction based on minimal contact 6 years in the past isn't "an easy deduction. " It's something made up out of thin air. Furthermore, although you are trying to paint a picture of someone who nobody would ever want to be around, I was clearly someone who you wanted to be around. You initiated contact, requested further meetings and came to find me, knowing that I might completely reject you. After a terrible experience, your first impulse was to come to me. You even sought contact with me again after I called you out for passing information about me to another monger. Cut the bullshit.

Back to your deduction that I can't have a girlfriend. She's not a third world hooker, never was and it's unlikely she ever will be. I'm not sending her money, considering our current situation, sending her money would be silly, which I told you 2 months ago. She's not selling me anything, but once again all of your statements are just shit you made up.

My natural aptitude got me into the Navy Nuke program? That might be the most clueless statement you've ever made. In 1980, getting into the Navy Nuke program required 5 things.

1. Basic education requirements, easily fulfilled in high school on the college prep track.

2. A high score on the ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery). I don't know the threshold.

3. A passing score on the NFQT (Nuclear Field Qualifying Test).

4. The ability to learn the equivalent of a BS in Electrical, or Mechanical Engineering, with a minor in Physics and Chemistry, in 6 months.

5. The ability to learn everything about a functioning Nuclear Propulsion Plant and pass comprehensive written and oral exams in less than 6 months.

At the time only 25% of those accepted into the school completed the program. I finished high enough to stay on as an instructor.

Failed at college? Another made up out of thin air sign of desperation. My first college experience was a certification program in Computer Science I finished top of my class. My second experience I was on the Dean's List, enrolled in Honors courses and holding a 3. 81 GPA when my financial situation could no longer support my education.

Failed at marriages? 40-50% of first marriages end in divorce. 60-67% of second marriages end in divorce. Apparently, I'm in good company. When there are no kids involved, and I am childless, it's not much of a failure. BTW, didn't you have a kid and get divorced? You never answered before, but isn't that ironic?

Failed at careers? Maybe you can open for David Copperfield, because you have a knack of pulling stuff put of thin air. I never sought a career, never wanted one. All I want is to earn enough to pay for my fun. I've accomplished that. Since you mentioned careers, what about yours? I'm pretty sure that you weren't doing what you do now for 40+ years.

Duped by a webcam model. Abracadabra! During most of the time I was in Medellin, the webcam model and her boyfriend were paying around 6 million COP monthly to rent 3 3 bed apartments, plus over 1 million for dedicated fiber and utilities. When I broke ties with them (towards the end of 2017), I received a nice deposit from them. It wasn't enough to offset my expenditures for the prior 8 months, but it helped. It was nearly 4 months after when I was penniless.

The core of your problem is that you have only 1 desire here, to attack me and anyone you perceive as my friend. You ignore anything which stands in the way of your desire. You completely bypass logic and make up whatever fits your skewed narrative. Here's a simple example. "I was duped by a webcam model and her boyfriend. " Duped for what purpose? For over 9 months I had almost free use of an apartment, a space which could have been used by a webcam model who would have made money for them. For 6 months I had almost unlimited access to another 3 bedroom apartment, intended to be used as a studio. Why give up chances to earn money to dupe a gringo into staying in your apartment for free while spending his own money to have fun?

Even if I was duped, as you say, I profited greatly from the experience and the expense was well worth it to me. Meanwhile, you were duped by a "friend" into ingesting dangerous drugs which could have killed you, and you were robbed. Say what you will, but I'll take spending $25 k to spend a year in Medellin, making friends, learning Spanish and fucking hookers over waking up in a hospital, with all my money gone and a 14 hour gap in my memory.

[Knowledge]

Yes, my understanding is it works like bars and clubs where there is no cover for women and / or women drink free or 1/2 price.

Seeking is free for women.

[Knowledge]

It is like every other premium price point in the game. You are not paying for a good performance or even sex. You are paying a premium for fantasy, illusion, make up, sometimes plastic surgery, furnishings, air freshener, etc. It's all good as long as we don't get caught up in the bullshit like gamblers who think they are going to change their lives if they just keep playing until the big score comes.

Yea I always figured it was probably bullshit. I've gotten tons of women from Facebook then have them introduce me to their friends and then friends of those friends and so on and that seems to work really well for me and I don't have to pay any fucking fees at all.

[Knowledge]

I'm going to make a big bowl of popcorn and watch the rebuttals from guys who really believe the seeking lore. This should be good, even though Mr. E spoiled some of the fun with this response.

Bullshit. Everyone knows there are beauty queens and models on Seeking who are only looking for love. I know that Seeking means Seeking Love. Why are you trying to lie and say it means Seeking Suckers?