Globe Club

[Dupont88]

A few ex-Globe girls I met there confirmed that they would be in big trouble if they did it. As an aside, I notice the very large kino there sees very little action. Maybe an Italian cultural thing?

Maybe.

In the years 2014/15 the manager was here muller.

Was possible to see action in the cinema.

In a wild Saturday a see 3 /4 couple fuck in the cinema.

At the door were the annoying stupid that make a sort of sentinel.

A have just a quick look because these fucker.

Then muller leave and come a Italian manager.

Coming from lap dance business.

You know is a business where you have to pay just for look.

Stop cinema hard core.

At that time don't like w anymore and I leave never returned.

[ShoesAndSocks]

Excluding swingers club, a world of its own, did you ever ask yourself why it is never ever possible in any austrian FKK or sex / night club (including Babylon or Casabianca) to have sex in public in the club (except the cinema), everywhere you like or feel like?

Before I visited Wellcum I checked out their website and it said sex is "strictly prohibited" within the club. So, I assumed that meant it was illegal.

A few ex-Globe girls I met there confirmed that they would be in big trouble if they did it. As an aside, I notice the very large kino there sees very little action. Maybe an Italian cultural thing?

Funny thing is, Wellcum could actually be a viable no-sex establishment. If you're happy with Ibis Hotel-level rooms (minimalist, clean), plus a very nice restaurant, bar, saunas, spa, heated outside swimming pool, lovely outdoor area with views of the alps, then it would make a pleasant place to stop for a few nights. Of course, as you say, it would take a very high level of trust to say that no girls would be present. A trust the authorities would no doubt baulk at.

Globe, on the other hand, is (extremely) good for only one thing, that is fucking the girls.

[Sirioja]

14/15 girls on tagesplan at the beginning of confined, but disappeared and when prostitution is now illegal at the moment in Switzerland, so very risky business. I wonder if not only communication to say: we are still alive.

[AdamCki]

Sure. I was describing how I understood the Palace Bar worked in normal times. Interesting to note how differently two clubs where I've spent a lot of time (& money) are handling this.
Wellcum in Austria closed voluntarily (yes, they had no choice considering the crisis affecting their client base in Italy), and are simply saying "Club on vacation, see you soon".
The Globe chain, on the other hand ... erotic massage parlour turns into non-sexual massage therapist, Globe turns into a restaurant, brothels turn into bars.
Can't say I'm surprised by the behaviour of either.

OK I get your point about Palace bar (in the past). But about the two different chains covid related behaviour, also consider different laws about sex and prostitution in AT, way way more strict than in CH.

Excluding swingers club, a world of its own, did you ever ask yourself why it is never ever possible in any austrian FKK or sex / night club (including Babylon or Casabianca) to have sex in public in the club (except the cinema), everywhere you like or feel like? This instead is possible in, say, all the Globe chain clubs. Everytime, anytime. On stage, on any sofa, in a hallway, I even saw a girl performing a blow job in Globe restaurant once! Two girls sucking a client at the bar below the counter is everyday stuff in Globe...

Austrian clubs regarding this strictness are like German ones, almost impossible to even do a deep french kiss anywhere today, apart from the shadows of Kino of course! It's all very sad.

Wellcum does not have a separate bar or massage activity. So I suspect they wouldn't allow Wellcum to reopen the hotel only as a sex scam (like you book the hotel as a regular customer and casually girls are outside the club to be picked up), they would be fined after 5 minutes for organizing behind the scene prostitution and close the business and goodbye forever. So the owner wisely doesn't fall into these desperate solutions. Ingo on the other hand knows in CH they are way more relaxed, as long as you do what is on paper. What is not on paper, and you know not everything can be ruled, is ok.

[Sirioja]

Yes, too many unknowns about this virus & uncertainties about the economic effects to even think about planning international travel. Obviously IF a vaccine becomes available, that would change things quickly.

I don't know what percentage of Globe clients are non-EU visitors from overseas (be they travelling for business or leisure), but that group won't be seen for quite some time even if re-opening is allowed in the coming months. Over the last 4-5 years, the constant gripe I've heard from Globe girls has been about the decline in client numbers, so if & when they return things will only be tougher for them.

Having said that, I imagine any re-opening will be celebrated with a gala party. Given Globe's reputation for public sex, the desire of girls to start earning money again, and the pent-up horniness of the guests, it should be a pretty wild & wanton night.

What I know for sure is business was getting slower in Swiss clubs before virus, I saw Globe empty at night on my last Thursday or Friday visits when casting is the best, Amesia girls don't have to pay entry, foods, drinks, if they don't get business. Swiss are not enough and don't have enough money to make work clubs and even only Globe. Globe need foreigners, many Italians, to get enough business, when they had to create for voyeurs to attract new clients who just pay entry, but leave at 9 pm when public sex is finished and don t go with girls, when failure for me, when I drive 650 kms but not able to find a attractive girl for my desire. Of course, I can move to Amesia or Freubad to try to find. Switzerland need Romanians and not only in brothels. Also many French and Italians working in Switzerland.

[PaulInZurich]

Over the last 4-5 years, the constant gripe I've heard from Globe girls has been about the decline in client numbers, so if & when they return things will only be tougher for them.

The girls will come the second they can, their pimps need money. We can't imagine how much the girls can be under the influence of their pimps. There are several recent articles in the Romanian press about pimps arrested in a city in Transylvania, at least 2 ex Globe girls are involved. One of the girls scammed a Swiss guy of 160 k, it all came unraveled when the Swiss guy complained to the police. That girl ended up with nothing in the end, everything that was bought from her earnings in 4-5 years (apartments, cars) was not in her name. BTW, her brother is a pimp too and good friends with her pimp.

[ShoesAndSocks]

I think re-open will depend on:

Yes, too many unknowns about this virus & uncertainties about the economic effects to even think about planning international travel. Obviously IF a vaccine becomes available, that would change things quickly.

I don't know what percentage of Globe clients are non-EU visitors from overseas (be they travelling for business or leisure), but that group won't be seen for quite some time even if re-opening is allowed in the coming months. Over the last 4-5 years, the constant gripe I've heard from Globe girls has been about the decline in client numbers, so if & when they return things will only be tougher for them.

Having said that, I imagine any re-opening will be celebrated with a gala party. Given Globe's reputation for public sex, the desire of girls to start earning money again, and the pent-up horniness of the guests, it should be a pretty wild & wanton night.

[ShoesAndSocks]

No, they can't use rooms in the club otherwise technically Palace would be "open" and running and not closed, hence being out of the law.

Sure. I was describing how I understood the Palace Bar worked in normal times.

Interesting to note how differently two clubs where I've spent a lot of time (& money) are handling this.

Wellcum in Austria closed voluntarily (yes, they had no choice considering the crisis affecting their client base in Italy), and are simply saying "Club on vacation, see you soon".

The Globe chain, on the other hand ... erotic massage parlour turns into non-sexual massage therapist, Globe turns into a restaurant, brothels turn into bars.

Can't say I'm surprised by the behaviour of either.

[KaveMan]

I think re-open will depend on:

-Open Swiss borders?

-Air-traveler restriction / quarantine (#days?

-Business-travel / economics of EU & USA.

-Liquidity of brothels.

-Liquidity of mongers.

-Supply of Girls.

-Supply of Mongers.

FKK model is a fine tuned equation; and if you lose one variable it spirals down.

FKKs as we know it may be gone; in 1980's gay bathhouses / swingers clubs (eg, Platos Retreat) in NYC were outlawed in AIDS crisis.

P.S., German FKK forum is in panic & pandemonium; everything from mongers swearing off FKKs; buying hazmat suits; suicidal despair, dating 50 yrs. + women.

Guess this was more than a hobby or lifestyle for some LOL.

[AdamCki]

....Reading its description, it sounds like a regular bar, but I got the impression its purpose was to be an alternative way to meet Club Palace girls without having to get undressed like in the club, and the girls take any interested guys across to a room in the club. So, as long as the club remained closed, it could operate under current restrictions as a bar.

No, they can't use rooms in the club otherwise technically Palace would be "open" and running and not closed, hence being out of the law.

I am sure girls will tell customers in the Palace Bar they have a private place (apartment, room) not far away and they must go there to do the session one way or another. Obviously landlord or renter of these flat for ladies should not be nominally the club or Ingo, but somebody under his control or a bogus company.

[Sirioja]

Club Palace does have a bar in the main lounge, but the Palace Bar is a relatively new separate establishment just to the left of the club as you approach from the street.

https://www.palace-bar.ch/

I have never been in there. Reading its description, it sounds like a regular bar, but I got the impression its purpose was to be an alternative way to meet Club Palace girls without having to get undressed like in the club, and the girls take any interested guys across to a room in the club. So, as long as the club remained closed, it could operate under current restrictions as a bar.

Visited Palace only once, what a run leaving Zermatt, taking little train through Furkapass, I enjoyed to climb Furkapass on a Summer but windy, then on snow around Andermatt with super soft tires, it was night on ice, then lightened all radars on my run to Palace, this led me to jail few years later, I didn't find any attractive look among around 10 girls. I think Zeus is less expensive and higher level, for around Luzern. Didn't notice a bar. If brothels are forbidden in Switzerland at the moment, are bars allowed?

[RealZoom]

According to the Federal Office for Public Health any type of prostitution, escort services etc are forbidden until 31 August. Before the summer vacation (July?) the situation will be evaluated and measures could be extended.

Please ignore my previous question, Google helped me and I found this: https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/fr/home...es-bundes.html#-1613991706.

Scroll down a litte and you will see what PaulInZurich already stated before.

So without a major change in situation, there won't be any opening of Globe or other clubs until beginning of September, nor any Escort services available in Switzerland.

[RealZoom]

According to the Federal Office for Public Health any type of prostitution, escort services etc are forbidden until 31 August. Before the summer vacation (July?) the situation will be evaluated and measures could be extended.

Do you have any source (link) for this? Or is it just a rumor?

[ShoesAndSocks]

As far I remember Swiss Dietikon and Palace bars are in lounge, close to small kino on the right and jacuzzi on the left at Swiss, both not at all separate from brothel, with only one entry.

Club Palace does have a bar in the main lounge, but the Palace Bar is a relatively new separate establishment just to the left of the club as you approach from the street.

https://www.palace-bar.ch/

I have never been in there. Reading its description, it sounds like a regular bar, but I got the impression its purpose was to be an alternative way to meet Club Palace girls without having to get undressed like in the club, and the girls take any interested guys across to a room in the club. So, as long as the club remained closed, it could operate under current restrictions as a bar.

[Sirioja]

Cause 101% there will be "oh casually" prostitutes inside the bar but obviously he's not advertising cause he can't but they are free indipendent workers so can go to a bar, they can't?! Then you go outside somewhere else to, well, eat her cake!

Knowing kantonal polizei and Swiss administration, if no corruption to keep them away, then risky business for staff.