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  1. #3884
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    You have a point there at the end, maybe the number of people with high salaries is more relevant than average or minimum salary. In the large financial corporations except people with less than a few years experience or branch cashiers, pretty much everybody makes more than 100 k, heck there are thousands of people in the banks who make more than 200 k excluding bonuses. You have the high tech sector here (Google), insurances, wealth managers, all the corporate headquarters of global companies in Switzerland etc. I am too lazy to look up the stats now, but I remember one stat that 8% of the population in Switzerland is millionaire. For these people time and convenience is more important, they won't drive for 2 hours to save a few hundred francs. Now if there would be a really amazing FKK which always has the best women in the world somewhere further away, different story. But if you don't get better girls, why bother.

    They must be hurting now financially, maybe that is why they try a different pricing concept in History with a low starting price, but with haggling for every little bit of service other than a suck and fuck. I hope that model doesn't get extended further and they come back to their senses.
    Number of millionaires is reported as 438000 which is a lot for a population of approx. 8. 5 million. Convenience is a factor but also family. It is a lot harder for married guys to drive to Germany. Globe is the most successful club but compared to all the other offers gets only a small slice of the whole pie. But it is the most profitable if the business is running well. Also name recognition is a big reason for the good business with visitors from outside Switzerland. Look at the forum here. Most posts around Globe except yours Siri.

    Agree with you on History and I hope the experiment fails miserably. Globe also does have the 80 CHF rate for suck and fuck but at least it is not fully ala cart. I don't like to bargain before the room and this is one of the advantages of most Imperium clubs. I prefer the all in approach and don't use the lower rate.

  2. #3883
    Quote Originally Posted by DidiVise  [View Original Post]
    But it is not the same service.
    I knew girls who were more fresh for look and behavior in Germany for 50 € per 30 mn, than they are now at Globe with less freshness and charm, but much more expensive. I also don t find Globe girls services, when quality is based on beauty, elegance, charm and manners for me, on higher level than girls I choose elsewhere and I work on to get back. Good point for Globe is still open when Germany is closed, but not anymore higher level.

  3. #3882

    Disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by DidiVise  [View Original Post]
    But it is not the same service.
    Speak for yourself. I get excellent service in Germany at much lower (and reasonable) prices. Not a fan of Switzerland because the cost of pussy (and everything else) is too damn high!

  4. #3881
    Quote Originally Posted by PhuckBiden  [View Original Post]
    It's a rip-off because I see the same girls in Germany for 50/30 minutes.
    But it is not the same service.

  5. #3880
    Quote Originally Posted by PhuckBiden  [View Original Post]
    It's a rip-off because I see the same girls in Germany for 50/30 minutes.
    But Zurich is very expensive and still open, when Germany is closed for a while. Globe is not the most expensive in Zurich. Also porn to wait for Germany.

  6. #3879
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin39  [View Original Post]
    Also your average salaries look like gross salary to me (did you use salaryexplorer?). As a single guy 4050 Euro is approx. 2500 Euro net in Frankfurt. Your average Zurich salary is also too high and looks like gross as well but taxes are a bit lower here. Men going to Globe probably make more then average though or if they don't won't go weekly.
    You have a point there at the end, maybe the number of people with high salaries is more relevant than average or minimum salary. In the large financial corporations except people with less than a few years experience or branch cashiers, pretty much everybody makes more than 100 k, heck there are thousands of people in the banks who make more than 200 k excluding bonuses. You have the high tech sector here (Google), insurances, wealth managers, all the corporate headquarters of global companies in Switzerland etc. I am too lazy to look up the stats now, but I remember one stat that 8% of the population in Switzerland is millionaire. For these people time and convenience is more important, they won't drive for 2 hours to save a few hundred francs. Now if there would be a really amazing FKK which always has the best women in the world somewhere further away, different story. But if you don't get better girls, why bother.

    They must be hurting now financially, maybe that is why they try a different pricing concept in History with a low starting price, but with haggling for every little bit of service other than a suck and fuck. I hope that model doesn't get extended further and they come back to their senses.

  7. #3878
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Considering annoying negotiation is done by management for us, and we get passionate DFK, BBBJ, sex and among other things for 140 chf per 30 min, it is fairly priced!

    Now, I just hope Globe management will keep the line up, stunner level beauty with no surgery or tattoos as possible! Girls has to be stunner level beauty as well, not just service!

    If both above are delivered, 140 chf per 30 min is fairly priced! If not, it is rip off!
    It's a rip-off because I see the same girls in Germany for 50/30 minutes.

  8. #3877
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin39  [View Original Post]
    I agree with your general statement looking at salaries Globe is close to German clubs. But 140 CHF is still 130 Euro and salaries are not 2.6 x higher in Switzerland. Your comparison only works if you have 1 session with no extras. I tend to have 2 sessions, sometimes longer or extras and usually its anywhere between 500-800 CHF for 1 visit. I am not a big spender compared to some you see at Globe. Entry at Globe is 95 CHF (not 105) because you get 10 back when you leave.

    Also your average salaries look like gross salary to me (did you use salaryexplorer?). As a single guy 4050 Euro is approx. 2500 Euro net in Frankfurt. Your average Zurich salary is also too high and looks like gross as well but taxes are a bit lower here. Men going to Globe probably make more then average though or if they don't won't go weekly.

    You have to see it from a girls perspective though, if they go back to their home country it translates back to their cost of living and local salaries. Making more than twice as much adds up quick and they make very good money. One girl told me that a customer complained to her that she makes more then him. If you scroll further back you can see some estimates but I never talked to any girl about money and I am happy if they make good money, are happy and give good service. I am sure they make a lot more compared to men their age except its like sports stars with the best years of their career at a younger age.
    Isn't 4000 CHF = around 3700 € , for minimum salary in Switzerland? Very high minimum salary, around 3 times more than in France or Germany, but nothing exceptional if You want to visit escorts, brothels, go to ski and holidays, have a house, cars, having passions and travelling. But when You know a bit about the whole business, among Germany, Austria, NL, Spain, then You know Globe is more expensive when not anymore higher level for casting, I found more attractive girls at GT Vienna on July, I had many prettier and higher level in bed in Germany than level now at Globe, had real Slavian with Slavian charm woman types in Catalunya. But like for ski, Switzerland remain open for some kantons brothels, when others are closed under covid, because Switzerland like for administration don t follow EU laws. But when will reopen, even I find few attractive woman types at Amesia, but Germany is more interesting for me than Globe now which is not anymore so interesting with falling casting, lack of charm and elegance, since 2019 and even before covid. More fresh natural beauties, less plastic, elsewhere, where better for my desire. But most of Swiss just don t know when they are used to live in a very small, quite closed, country. I remember a around Zurich guy telling me at Freubad he was happy to meet again a girl he liked when she worked around Zurich, so I was just happy for him he enjoyed her again, less happy when she tried to attract me as soon he left, when I told him: good for You, now You found her again, You can come again to enjoy her, but he answered me: I enjoyed with her again, but Freubad is too far from my home = Zurich, when only 1 hour driving between, when I use to drive more than 1000 kms, most often at night, easy for me even in Winter, under rain, or on snow, every week end. We don t all live same life with same standards.

  9. #3876
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Considering annoying negotiation is done by management for us, and we get passionate DFK, BBBJ, sex and among other things for 140 chf per 30 min, it is fairly priced!

    Now, I just hope Globe management will keep the line up, stunner level beauty with no surgery or tattoos as possible! Girls has to be stunner level beauty as well, not just service!

    If both above are delivered, 140 chf per 30 min is fairly priced! If not, it is rip off!
    Agree with you, the service guarantee and level of looks is the main reason for Globe's success. I did have a new girl recently though (2nd day at Globe, worked in a Italy before, my bad to pick her) and was disappointed with the service but not a big loss aborting after 30 minutes. So even Globe has challenges to keep the service level up but at least this type of girl usually does not last very long.

    Stunner is a lot in the eye of the beholder and it is important to have variety. Good girls have a staple of repeating customers and especially the most popular ones have longer room bookings. There is then a fine line between experienced but slowly aging girls and new blood.

  10. #3875
    Quote Originally Posted by Ovechkin08  [View Original Post]
    The average net take home monthly salary in Zurich is CHF 7,841. If I visit Globe and pay CHF 105+140 for 1 session, and I go every week (52 weeks) for a year (12 months) that works out at 13.5% of my net take home pay. The average net take home monthly salary in Frankfurt is EUR 4,050. If I visit an FKK club and pay EUR 70+50 for 1 session, and I go every week (52 weeks) for a year (12 months) that works out at 12.8% of my net take home pay. So, as a local living in the Zurich area, I find no real arbitrage opportunity in the pricing between German and Swiss clubs. Obviously as a foreign visitor you get "more bang" for your buck in Germany.
    Considering annoying negotiation is done by management for us, and we get passionate DFK, BBBJ, sex and among other things for 140 chf per 30 min, it is fairly priced!

    Now, I just hope Globe management will keep the line up, stunner level beauty with no surgery or tattoos as possible! Girls has to be stunner level beauty as well, not just service!

    If both above are delivered, 140 chf per 30 min is fairly priced! If not, it is rip off!

  11. #3874

    Apples and Oranges

    I'm not a resident so my experience may not count, but I'll offer my opinion nevertheless. For me, Globe and Frankfurt clubs are two different breeds. I never compare them on a per entry and per room rate. I need to look at them at the per day rate based on average spend. I can comfortably say that Frankfurt clubs are a 200 to 300 EUR per day affair. That's two or three sessions, plus entry and maybe even a few alcoholic drinks. If I'm feeling especially frisky then maybe that'll bump up to a 400 or maybe even 500 EUR excursion, but never really more than that.

    Globe however is a totally different calculation. Firstly, more beautiful women usually results in a greater likelyhood of more back to back sessions. Maybe 3 or 4 compared to the 2 or 3 at Frankfurt. Then the more personalized attention by the girls leads to longer sessions. Then add the pricey extras and a little alcohol for me and her. All of a sudden you will be in for 600 CHF without even really scratching the surface of the club. Public sex day? Maybe that's an extra session. How about the vip room? Throw in an extra couple of hundred. For me, any day leaving Globe not being at least 600 CHF lighter is a poor performance. By comparison, when I leave Sharks having only dropped 300 Eur for two or three rooms, I'm usually feeling a little smug at the bargain.

    For me. It's apples and oranges, these two. One does not compare to the other. Regardless of income. Both however serve a noble service and I hope they both survive this awful year.

  12. #3873
    Most of new Globe girls are not anymore higher level for look and in bed, than pretty ones in Germany, most new Globe girls coming from German clubs and were not on the highest wow there. When Germany will reopen, I will return for more fresh Romanian beauties I love to work on to get from, for less expensive, when most of Romanians now at Globe are not on my standard.

  13. #3872
    Quote Originally Posted by Ovechkin08  [View Original Post]
    The average net take home monthly salary in Zurich is CHF 7,841. If I visit Globe and pay CHF 105+140 for 1 session, and I go every week (52 weeks) for a year (12 months) that works out at 13.5% of my net take home pay. The average net take home monthly salary in Frankfurt is EUR 4,050. If I visit an FKK club and pay EUR 70+50 for 1 session, and I go every week (52 weeks) for a year (12 months) that works out at 12.8% of my net take home pay. So, as a local living in the Zurich area, I find no real arbitrage opportunity in the pricing between German and Swiss clubs. Obviously as a foreign visitor you get "more bang" for your buck in Germany.
    You can visit Sharks, Oase or Palace for only 50 €. I have no problem about expensive Globe rate for girls, if I find a girl who worth this rate, for look and elegance, charm and behavior, but now unfortunately too rare for me. I pay even more expensive at Amesia for girls who attract me. But I didn't see any look at Aphrodisia worthing 280/30. But for 95 for entry, Globe foods are lower level than in some German clubs, or Freubad. But at least, since reopening on June, Globe and Amesia adapt to law to stay open, when can wait for German clubs to reopen, not in 2020.

  14. #3871
    Quote Originally Posted by Ovechkin08  [View Original Post]
    The average net take home monthly salary in Zurich is CHF 7,841. If I visit Globe and pay CHF 105+140 for 1 session, and I go every week (52 weeks) for a year (12 months) that works out at 13.5% of my net take home pay. The average net take home monthly salary in Frankfurt is EUR 4,050. If I visit an FKK club and pay EUR 70+50 for 1 session, and I go every week (52 weeks) for a year (12 months) that works out at 12.8% of my net take home pay. So, as a local living in the Zurich area, I find no real arbitrage opportunity in the pricing between German and Swiss clubs. Obviously as a foreign visitor you get "more bang" for your buck in Germany.
    I made a similar point some time ago in this thread. However, your figures don't look so correct to me. By the way, the point is that for many of the mongers at globe a standard session (e.g. 30 m or 1 h, without extra) is not more expensive than a comparable session (I assume 1 h 100, because 30 m 50 usually does not lead to good service) for many of the mongers in Frankfurt clubs. Swiss are just richer.

    Another reason (which holds also for foreigners) that makes Globe not so expensive in comparison with Frankfurt clubs is that at Globe you can give for granted some degree of service quality. This is not the case in Frankfurt, in particular if (i) girls do not know you, (ii) you want to change girl every time, and (iii) you are a newbie. Thus, to make a fair price comparison, you should account for the fact that with some probability you pay a room for nothing. So the expected price of a good room is above 100. And, thus, it's not so far from the 140 chf that are sufficient at Globe in the end.

    Assume this probability is 20%. Then, you pay 1000 to make 8 good rooms in Frankfurt. Similarly, at Globe you pay 140*8=1120 chf, which is 1000€. Same price.

  15. #3870
    Quote Originally Posted by Ovechkin08  [View Original Post]
    The average net take home monthly salary in Zurich is CHF 7,841. If I visit Globe and pay CHF 105+140 for 1 session, and I go every week (52 weeks) for a year (12 months) that works out at 13.5% of my net take home pay. The average net take home monthly salary in Frankfurt is EUR 4,050. If I visit an FKK club and pay EUR 70+50 for 1 session, and I go every week (52 weeks) for a year (12 months) that works out at 12.8% of my net take home pay. So, as a local living in the Zurich area, I find no real arbitrage opportunity in the pricing between German and Swiss clubs. Obviously as a foreign visitor you get "more bang" for your buck in Germany.
    I agree with your general statement looking at salaries Globe is close to German clubs. But 140 CHF is still 130 Euro and salaries are not 2.6 x higher in Switzerland. Your comparison only works if you have 1 session with no extras. I tend to have 2 sessions, sometimes longer or extras and usually its anywhere between 500-800 CHF for 1 visit. I am not a big spender compared to some you see at Globe. Entry at Globe is 95 CHF (not 105) because you get 10 back when you leave.

    Also your average salaries look like gross salary to me (did you use salaryexplorer?). As a single guy 4050 Euro is approx. 2500 Euro net in Frankfurt. Your average Zurich salary is also too high and looks like gross as well but taxes are a bit lower here. Men going to Globe probably make more then average though or if they don't won't go weekly.

    You have to see it from a girls perspective though, if they go back to their home country it translates back to their cost of living and local salaries. Making more than twice as much adds up quick and they make very good money. One girl told me that a customer complained to her that she makes more then him. If you scroll further back you can see some estimates but I never talked to any girl about money and I am happy if they make good money, are happy and give good service. I am sure they make a lot more compared to men their age except its like sports stars with the best years of their career at a younger age.

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