Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[Houston Player]

Quite right, and in the dating scene, my money is on Tinder at the moment. TF, Badoo, Tagged are just a mere side entertainment.

As a local, the only negative in playing the non P4 P game is that, no matter how many times you tell these girls you are not looking for a relationship, they always want more.

Golden Rule: Never bring them home (they should not know where you live), or work.

Your Golden Rule of advice is certainly in the right thread. LOL.

[NicFrenchy]

Fuck that. I have money. Some of the dating sites that you use and have proven to work for you, then it is best to pay the money.

Quite right, and in the dating scene, my money is on Tinder at the moment. TF, Badoo, Tagged are just a mere side entertainment.

As a local, the only negative in playing the non P4 P game is that, no matter how many times you tell these girls you are not looking for a relationship, they always want more.

Golden Rule: Never bring them home (they should not know where you live), or work.

[Mr Enternational]

Are some people still getting effective use from the free membership? I can only view profiles for free, I must pay to contact the desirable ones.

Fuck that. I have money. Some of the dating sites that you use and have proven to work for you, then it is best to pay the money. It is all a numbers game, and the more numbers you can hit in a given time, the better. Damn waiting 10 minutes. That is ridiculous. As far as TF goes, I have not paid for it since I left because there is no reason to. I do not need it when I am not there. But when I am in the country I keep my subscription paid. My Latinamericancupid I pay by the year ($119) because I am always traveling around Latin America.

[HorseTrader]

I can guarantee you that TF is still alive. And Kicking. It is actually even better than Tinder in the sense that because you need a 10 mn cooldown to write messages (as a free member) it's easier to ask for LineID to chat.

I match with quite a lot of ladies (I don't go for the 20-26 babies) 27-50 mark.

Interesting comment regarding being a free member. When I first started ThaiFriendly in 2016-2017, the free membership was enough. I could contact about 95% of the girls and the 10 minute delay was not a problem. But, in about 2019 TF changed things and about 95% of the girls became listed as "popular member" and I was forced to become a paid member to contact them. I bought a 90-day membership in early 2020. Since then I've made multiple free TF IDs, but all of them have the same limits and I can only contact a few uglies. I'm also interested in the older ladies (40-50).

Are some people still getting effective use from the free membership? I can only view profiles for free, I must pay to contact the desirable ones.

[Kurredut]

What's left is all the guys maybe worth talking to ( 50% for argument's sake), why would a girl worth her salt be talking to john Rambo on the other side of the planet? Why waste time on a guy she may never meet or might meet for a week when he visits, want to have sex and go back to his country or to another girl he chats with?

Exactly the point I was trying to make: a futile task.

[NicFrenchy]

trying to keep girls interested from other side of the globe is a futile task

I'm assuming you're talking about girls with above average looks, well these girls get quite a LOT of messages on a daily basis. Weed-out the guys that message about the size of their dicks and wanting video sex calls or just asking for sex on first message.

What's left is all the guys maybe worth talking to ( 50% for argument's sake), why would a girl worth her salt be talking to john Rambo on the other side of the planet? Why waste time on a guy she may never meet or might meet for a week when he visits, want to have sex and go back to his country or to another girl he chats with?

These girls ask pretty quick: Where you from and where you live. If you don't live in their area or near their area? They're not investing time and efforts.

While you're juggling with 10 20 conversations, they have hundreds of guys messaging, especially on TF where you don't need to match to send a message.

[Kurredut]

I am disappointed but not in the least surprised about the limitations of the November 1st reopening. Instead of 10 plus countries promised quarantine free entry there will be only five on the list: Britain, the United States, Germany, China and Singapore. That closes the door for a quick tour in November.

Possibly good news is that COE is being replaced by an app that should / could be simpler to use.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...s-being-opened

[Kurredut]

The big advantage I have is I live in Bangkok so the ladies are interested to "Finally" talk to someone they could potentially meet without having to wait for the next tourist vacation. They're also very careful because many have been scammed (so they say).

I usually am the one to give my LineID to carry on the conversation and about 70% actually bite.

Living in Bangkok is certainly an advantage. I used to spend 10-15 weeks a year in Thailand back in 2012-2017 but now trying to keep girls interested from other side of the globe is a futile task. During past two years almost 20 percent of my hundred or so WG Line contacts have either moved back to family homes or had babies or just plain disappeared. I should get my boots on the ground again.

[EihTooms]

I can guarantee you that TF is still alive. And Kicking. It is actually even better than Tinder in the sense that because you need a 10 mn cooldown to write messages (as a free member) it's easier to ask for LineID to chat.

I match with quite a lot of ladies (I don't go for the 20-26 babies) 27-50 mark. The big advantage I have is I live in Bangkok so the ladies are interested to "Finally" talk to someone they could potentially meet without having to wait for the next tourist vacation. They're also very careful because many have been scammed (so they say).

I usually am the one to give my LineID to carry on the conversation and about 70% actually bite.

The key to success is patience, it takes quite a few days / weeks of chat to set up the story you want and meet them in a setting that leads to bed. It's worth it in the end for me.

Tinder is also one that I have had success with but a lot more LBs and Pros there. Girls right away ask for your LineID, and send you pictures, prices, services.

Badoo is also good but you need to really be patient before you find something you might like.

As I said, I like girls with experience, no young puppies. As a local though, the downside is that some girls really get attached once you take them out and have sex.

Yes, I do pretty well with TF and Tinder too. I still say a lot of TF girls are no longer in the area their profile says they live and are only going to chat chat chat into infinity but not meet due to Covid fears. But the ones who are actually IN Bangkok where I live are game. Just have to video chat and meet where escape is easy to avoid as much shock and regret as possible.

Badoo, on the other hand, has been a complete waste of time for me. After thousands of profile clicks by me and rejections by me of others, I have not connected with one lady from Badoo in the 6-7 months that I have had a "Lifetime" membership (3,000 baht, one time). Oh, I could meet a lot if fat old ladies or chat forever with better looking ones who live in Chiang Mai. LOL. But so far I have not made a connection with 1 doable lady who actually lives within 100 km of me and is up for being done by me.

[NicFrenchy]

I feel the same about the decline of TF. Up to 2017 I was still able to harvest few Line IDs of working girls but converting TF ladies to bed companions has not worked for me after that.

I can guarantee you that TF is still alive. And Kicking. It is actually even better than Tinder in the sense that because you need a 10 mn cooldown to write messages (as a free member) it's easier to ask for LineID to chat.

I match with quite a lot of ladies (I don't go for the 20-26 babies) 27-50 mark. The big advantage I have is I live in Bangkok so the ladies are interested to "Finally" talk to someone they could potentially meet without having to wait for the next tourist vacation. They're also very careful because many have been scammed (so they say).

I usually am the one to give my LineID to carry on the conversation and about 70% actually bite.

The key to success is patience, it takes quite a few days / weeks of chat to set up the story you want and meet them in a setting that leads to bed. It's worth it in the end for me.

Tinder is also one that I have had success with but a lot more LBs and Pros there. Girls right away ask for your LineID, and send you pictures, prices, services.

Badoo is also good but you need to really be patient before you find something you might like.

As I said, I like girls with experience, no young puppies. As a local though, the downside is that some girls really get attached once you take them out and have sex.

[Mr Enternational]

The Thai government will respond according to how COVID progresses and nobody knows how COVID will progress.

That has shit to do with shit. I am in the Dominican Republic where no test or vaccine is required to enter. Ain't a myriad of tourists coming here spreading covid around or falling out in the street and needing the government to care for them because they did not get the covid insurance. It is the same in Colombia. These folks are dummies.

[HorseTrader]

But sometimes there are enough bits and pieces of mounting evidence that some of these entertainment venue owners, operators and interests have been tipped off about a move that is more firm than usual even before it is made available for public consumption.

Even with inside information, it's a crapshoot. The Thai government will respond according to how COVID progresses and nobody knows how COVID will progress. We also dont know how customers and workers will respond to whatever future health may become.

[Kurredut]

For me, TF was at its peak (for regular girls, not PFP) around 2010-2013 and declined afterwards, slowly but noticeably.

No idea about the reasons, I can only speculate. Perhaps it has to do with demographics, average age in Thailand rose from 35 in 2010 to 40 in 2020, so there are fewer young women. For me, 40 is when the good and cuteness looks of most Thai women decline, although there are exceptions. snip.

I feel the same about the decline of TF. Up to 2017 I was still able to harvest few Line IDs of working girls but converting TF ladies to bed companions has not worked for me after that. I tried WeChat in 2019 but got replies mostly from tall ladies with big hands. I have used past 15 months building up my Facebook friend list but like you said, aside from obvious bar girls the interest of the younger generation in farangs seem to have waned considerably. I use fake pictures in my FB account so it is not due me being bald, 40 kg overweight, miserable old man.

I have ten times more Messenger activity with young FB friends from Philippines than from Thailand. Maybe it is also a language barrier issue.

[EihTooms]

"By Dec 1, we will also consider allowing the consumption of alcoholic beverages in restaurants as well as the operation of entertainment venues under appropriate health precautions to support the revitalization of the tourism and leisure sectors, especially the new year period," Prayut said.

By now you should know to read that quote more carefully "consider allowing" are the key words. Nothing is set in stone until the Royal Gazette prints it and it can all change in an instant, like it has been in the past year with everything they say. Clearly this is a marketing ploy because there is absolutely no mention to what happens to vaccinated arrivals who test positive after they land. This has been the case since Thailand reopened their airports. People testing negative on departure, but positive on arrival. Imagine the backlash when they do, do not carry insurance (like backpackers), and get forced quarantined even if they are fully vaccinated and have no symptoms, and are forced to pay out of pocket. And they aren't even sick.
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Yes, I am with you on the fact that things can change in an hour. That is why I posted the report without comment, just FYI to anyone looking for positive signs.

But sometimes there are enough bits and pieces of mounting evidence that some of these entertainment venue owners, operators and interests have been tipped off about a move that is more firm than usual even before it is made available for public consumption.

I have mentioned signs of life in terms of renovation and sprucing up of some go-go bars and beer bars lately. Well, this week I am seeing more of it.

And I dare say it appears to me there are several more restaurants and "entertainment venues" in the area (not go-go bars yet) that juuuust might be jumping the gun on the moves cited in that report by 3-7 weeks as though they don't expect much hassle or penalty at all for their eagerness to get up and running.

Btw, "marketing" for what if it isn't for travelers and tourists to start firing up to book flights and rooms on the premise that there will be plenty for them to do and spend money on when they arrive other than time in a quarantine hotel or hospital care and medical staff?

[RacShack]

"By Dec 1, we will also consider allowing the consumption of alcoholic beverages in restaurants as well as the operation of entertainment venues under appropriate health precautions to support the revitalization of the tourism and leisure sectors, especially the new year period," Prayut said.

By now you should know to read that quote more carefully "consider allowing" are the key words. Nothing is set in stone until the Royal Gazette prints it and it can all change in an instant, like it has been in the past year with everything they say. Clearly this is a marketing ploy because there is absolutely no mention to what happens to vaccinated arrivals who test positive after they land. This has been the case since Thailand reopened their airports. People testing negative on departure, but positive on arrival. Imagine the backlash when they do, do not carry insurance (like backpackers), and get forced quarantined even if they are fully vaccinated and have no symptoms, and are forced to pay out of pocket. And they aren't even sick.

"Another problem with the program has been the policy requiring that travelers who test positive, or who are traveling with someone who tests positive, be transferred from their hotel to a health care facility and kept in strict quarantine for up to 14 days at their own expense. This has led to the mandatory quarantine of tourists who were sitting near an infectious passenger on their flight to Phuket."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/w...uarantine.html