Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[Banana Boi]

I'm not a preacher of safe sex but this was an article from today.

Numbers higher than I thought. 16 new cases of reported aids per day. 1. 5 million reported infected. 15,000 reported deaths annually.

https://pattayaone.news/en/cases-aids-diagnosed/

[EihTooms]

That is quite a statement, Mr. E.

May I ask out of how many different Thai women you have engaged in this never fail, never try to dodge CIM technique of yours so I can be even more astonished and amazed by your response?

Crickets?

Ok. See, this is why we have to challenge at least some of these tall tale fantasy sex scenarios and bring them back down to earth. Not to kill anyone's buzz, but because it does no one, newbies, oldtimers, the business and market in general any good to let these "Can You Top This" fantasy scenarios go on and on and thereby promote the idea that you, MP, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio or, yes, even I can easily meet, say, 10 Thai girls, five pros and five non pros and, first time out and unplanned, every one of them will probably provide a CIM finish without even dodging a little bit (or you name the sex scenario) just like that. Five pros not working in BJ Bars, that is.

Some dudes read that stuff and they either think there is something drastically wrong with them for not getting such results so readily or they are so disappointed they dump the whole idea of ever returning to Thailand. Assuming they are choosing girls they actually want to have sex with and not pathetic souls who must either go along with anything and everything or starve in the next couple of hours. Maybe that is fine with some, but I do believe it is not good for any of us in the long run. What actually does happen in Thailand with Thai girls is already pretty darn good. No need to come up with those high flying, never fail, never try to dodge, she started giving me a deep throat and then swallowed all of it and begged for more before I got my shoes off kind of stuff.

And there's another factor to consider. If we don't challenge these things (not saying ALL of them are impossible, just that some are worthy of a challenge), then we have no right to turn our derision on posters who out of the blue ask goofy questions like, "Which go-go bar has beautiful girls who will do anything without hassle for very little money and what time do they usually show up?" LOL. Little wonder some posters, especially first time poster lurkers, think this must be the land of conveyor belt 100% True GFE do anything, get anything on demand P4P girls after they've read some of MP and others' fantasy scenarios. We have to go back and reinvent the wheel every time one of those questions comes up and don't realize how some of us are actually encouraging such thinking by posting those fantasy scenarios.

[EihTooms]

Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away.

Well, see that is where you and I definitely differ. I believe where my cum goes IS my business if she has agreed to make it go somewhere specific as a matter of OUR doing BUSINESS together. Not only in her mouth or down her throat and into her stomach, but in her pussy or up her butthole, in her ear or up her left nostril as well. I'm not going to say, hey, I "got my orgasm", who cares if at that moment she hopped off me, my dick came out of her pussy and I wound up jerking myself off just to get those last squirts out. Not if she and I both agreed that we would fuck bareback until my sperm / semen came into her pussy, I'm not. Will you?

No, there is no law requiring her to honor the BUSINESS deal we struck on that issue. She can hop off, pull away, run to the toilet to spit, do whatever her little heart desires when the time comes and I have nothing to say about it in that respect. Can't throw her in jail, won't be justified in beating her up or anything of the kind. But then I most certainly do reserve and will very likely exercise my right to deny paying her what I agreed to pay for wherever she previously agreed my cum would go.

And, believe it or not, not every woman thinks of sperm / semen as "garbage". At least many of my ladies have not. Unless they work hard to get actual street "garbage" up their snatch or into their mouths as many have even for no money at all with their partner's cum. I don't think of a woman's vaginal secretions as "garbage" and don't treat it as such when it lands in my mouth and slides down my throat when I purposely swallow it instead of spitting it out. Do you? Come on now, not every woman is so diametrically opposite to men in that regard.

[PedroMorales]

The only reason to pull it out, is if the girl does not want to cop the sperm. Only in porn does it need to be pulled out to see where the sperm goes, because they are making a video, and has to include as much degradation of the girl as possible to attract the extreme porn watchers. Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away. The japanese woman at the condo was very upset that her garbage was in the garbage bins below and an old Thai women was sifting through that garbage to find what could be sold. Could easily find period blood or sperm in the trash, or bottles to sell. LOL In Thai culture they don't care. Only the Jap woman was so upset about it. Don't know why exactly (a cultural thing).

Like you I don't find that all Thai girls want to cop sperm directly in their pussy or mouth, and even less want to swallow. I never ask for a swallow as not my business (and seems a bit warped to me) but 90%+ spit it out (completely their right). Just like them, I don't want to drink it. Fortunately anal is not my thing, as very few girls are reporting to enjoy anal, and mainly only do it for guys who cum quick. So the odd girl said yes she does anal, but not for me. LOL I have been offered but I could count the number of times on one hand, and some of those offers were for extra payment.

I am sure a lot more girls would be into swallowing if there was a good money bonus. However I would never pay extra for it. Can't see any logical usefulness to it.

One girl was telling me about her freak customer that did want to drink the sperm. We both agreed he must be a bit psycho.

Because sperm is a high protein shake, women should really P4's (pay for swallow). Swal; lowing has the advantage of not staining the bed sheets. To imagine that CIM degrades and COH (cum on hair) or CON (cum on nose) does not only shows YMMV.

I doubt the Japanese woman bins her menstrual left overs. Most women flush such crap dowen the toilets and, along with wet wipes, they are a major source of plumbing problems. I do feel for the Japanese woman, not wanting the ferals to root around, rat like, in her discarded bags.

The increased demand for anal is, like the CIM, CON, COH things, a feature of today's virtual society where more mongers want the porno experience they previously jacked off to.

[Nyezhov]

The only reason to pull it out, is if the girl does not want to cop the sperm. Only in porn does it need to be pulled out to see where the sperm goes, because they are making a video, and has to include as much degradation of the girl as possible to attract the extreme porn watchers. Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away. The japanese woman at the condo was very upset that her garbage was in the garbage bins below and an old Thai women was sifting through that garbage to find what could be sold. Could easily find period blood or sperm in the trash, or bottles to sell. LOL In Thai culture they don't care. Only the Jap woman was so upset about it. Don't know why exactly (a cultural thing)..

Years ago in NYC I got a free BJ because some trick wanted the girl to spit some other dudes cum in his mouth. OK. I'm game. Free BJs are the best.

[Syzygies]

But for those of us who aren't going to spend much time or money in Thailand pulling out of vaginas at the crucial moment to masturbate ourselves to a finish no matter how close to the girl's mouth we can shoot it or even into it every now and then, that doesn't really replace getting a full and complete beginning-to-end BBBJ+CIM in my book.

The only reason to pull it out, is if the girl does not want to cop the sperm. Only in porn does it need to be pulled out to see where the sperm goes, because they are making a video, and has to include as much degradation of the girl as possible to attract the extreme porn watchers. Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away. The japanese woman at the condo was very upset that her garbage was in the garbage bins below and an old Thai women was sifting through that garbage to find what could be sold. Could easily find period blood or sperm in the trash, or bottles to sell. LOL In Thai culture they don't care. Only the Jap woman was so upset about it. Don't know why exactly (a cultural thing).

Like you I don't find that all Thai girls want to cop sperm directly in their pussy or mouth, and even less want to swallow. I never ask for a swallow as not my business (and seems a bit warped to me) but 90%+ spit it out (completely their right). Just like them, I don't want to drink it. Fortunately anal is not my thing, as very few girls are reporting to enjoy anal, and mainly only do it for guys who cum quick. So the odd girl said yes she does anal, but not for me. LOL I have been offered but I could count the number of times on one hand, and some of those offers were for extra payment.

I am sure a lot more girls would be into swallowing if there was a good money bonus. However I would never pay extra for it. Can't see any logical usefulness to it.

One girl was telling me about her freak customer that did want to drink the sperm. We both agreed he must be a bit psycho.

[Mogwai]

If he is a big time and frequent visitor at gogos, then I am sure the gogo girls have info about him on their secret facebook groups.
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1 a. If it is so secret how do you know about it?
1 b. You know there is a system, but know nothing about it? I know there are aliens and I know nothing about them either.
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Looking at some BMs here I think the aliens are already among us LOL. (I don't mean the both of you).
And we have ET of course (EihTooms).

It really wouldn't surprise me if these facebook groups exist. I can imagine that especially beer bar, massage and beach road girls like to gossip and exchange information about guys they frequently see during their long boring days / nights.

[Mogwai]

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You might have it backwards about who was envious of whom.

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Again, maybe I've missed all the other follow up reports from guys who have matched the names, badge numbers, baht amounts, disco locations, etc. provided by MP and gotten something quite close to the results he claims to get in his "reports". Results of a sexual nature, I mean, not of a super high bar tab nature.

Great analysis. As usual.

[EihTooms]

I have never known a chick in Thailand to try to dodge it.

That is quite a statement, Mr. E.

May I ask out of how many different Thai women you have engaged in this never fail, never try to dodge CIM technique of yours so I can be even more astonished and amazed by your response?

[Mr Enternational]

Congrats to you if instead at that moment all or most of your girls dive on your dick and start pumping it with mouth wrapped around tightly and keep it wrapped around tightly until the last squirt. But I'll go out on a limb here and conclude that is not even close to what happens all or most of the time, right? With new, untested for that event girls, I mean. You never or almost never get the slightest cum dodge, head turn or pursed lips welcome at such a moment? Again, congrats to you and others if you don't.

I have never known a chick in Thailand to try to dodge it. And these are mixed pros and nonpros that I am talking about. But like you said I don't think many will swallow it. I do remember my neighbor swallowing though and then falling asleep. And whenever a chick licks my ass she is generally a swallower too. It is not something that I keep tabs on because like I said it does not matter to me one way or the other. It is always just a spur of the moment go with the flow thing.

Chicks that don't swallow I always hold them down and tickle them before they can run to the bathroom. They will fight to kill to get you to let them up and run to the toilet. But I'm like you have already swallowed the elephant; no sense in choking on the tail. Once when I shot a load in my girlfriend in the Philippines mouth she started crying after. It was her first time and she really did not like it. I felt bad.

[EihTooms]

Asking for CIM is one of those uncertain things: unless the girl really wants your repeat business, she can always pull away at the last moment, and would NOT be within your rights to deny her payment for doing that.

IMO, it would be within your rights to deny payment if she had agreed to no payment for failure to do so. I have done that with girls who want a second chance to "make you happy" and finish it properly. Good time to add Cum Swallowing to the deal as well. In fact, I won't give a second chance unless that no payment if tricked again deal has been struck. And I have given quite a few second chances with very happy results for me. And third and fourth chances as well under the same conditions. Once tricked on the CIM agreement, I will not neglect to add the "no payment" clause in the discussion in subsequent meetings.

[Chacal60]

My reglar Massage w BBBJ gal would happily take me deep and let me shoot, but dang if she'the never ever swallow. Always politely removed herself from our bed, mouth closed to hold my seed, then spit quietly in the bathroom. Nana condos but she's since moved back upcountry.

I'm happy I'm not the only one who doesn't ask permission. LOL. I usually say " I'm cumming" and point my dick to their mouth. Works every time.

[Crocodilexp]

Instead of breaking out a list of things I want a girl to do, I just usually go with the flow.

I think negotiating a laundry list with a hooker is useless, with very few exceptions, such as BBBJ or anal. You can ask ahead of time if she does certain things, but that's no guarantee it will happen to your liking once you're in the room.

Asking for CIM is one of those uncertain things: unless the girl really wants your repeat business, she can always pull away at the last moment, and would NOT be within your rights to deny her payment for doing that.

We're fortunate Thai hookers tend to be generous: stuff like a BBBJ, getting undressed, not being impolitely rushed, and not showing open disdain for the customer is still the norm. That is not the case in many (most?) pay-for-play markets. For instance, in most places, any kind of BJ is not a given unless agreed upfront, and in Amsterdam, you have to pay extra for taking of the bra.

[BaddHabbit]

1 a. If it is so secret how do you know about it?

1 b. You know there is a system, but know nothing about it? I know there are aliens and I know nothing about them either.
2. The girls are not going out soliciting, so there is no reason for them to keep "files" on customers. They are cooped up in the bar and the customer comes to find them. They are not cold calling customers based on some gathered data.
3. There are only so many girls in the venues. There are too many customers to count that come through the bars. Easy for us to talk about girl number 123 in such and such bar. Imagine them trying to discuss Henry from Coventry. Is this the Henry with brown hair or the Henry that walks with a limp?
4. When is the last time you saw a hooker whip her phone out to take a picture of a trick?
5. It is hard enough trying to deal with 1 of those chicks at a time. Dealing with more than 1 at a time is like herding cats. Do you really believe that uneducated hookers are as organized to conduct such an undertaking?
6. The only thing these chicks are concerned with from a customer is getting money. They are not trying to sort through all kinds of other trick theory and bullshit algorithms as many mongers try to do. That is too much like work. And the reason they are hookers in the first place is because they are allergic to work. They keep it simple: go with man for money.
7. You really think they do not have anything better to do than talk about falang johns? Sure they are gossiping, but you would have to have a pretty big ego to believe the gossip was about us. After you have given them money you have served your purpose. They are not wasting brain cells on you past that. They have more important Thai shit to do.

Actually, I have been shown part of one of these groups, and there are a number of them around, in many countries. As it was explained to me, it is mostly about helping girls avoid / be aware of dangerous customers.

[EihTooms]

I am not a stickler and never have to have a certain thing when it comes to sex. Instead of breaking out a list of things I want a girl to do, I just usually go with the flow. When I feel that I want to skeet in a chick's mouth then I just say give me your mouth and commence to skeeting into it.

Haha. Sure, I've done that, too. But when I've done it it's a BBFS+CIM and not really a BBBJ+CIM. Which, if we get a tad bit more technical, I'm guessing turns out to be for you as it was for me much closer to masturbating into (or, far more likely, onto) the girl's mouth in a big hurry at the end. Much like a COB or COF I suppose, although I've never bothered to go for either one of those.

Congrats to you if instead at that moment all or most of your girls dive on your dick and start pumping it with mouth wrapped around tightly and keep it wrapped around tightly until the last squirt. But I'll go out on a limb here and conclude that is not even close to what happens all or most of the time, right? With new, untested for that event girls, I mean. You never or almost never get the slightest cum dodge, head turn or pursed lips welcome at such a moment? Again, congrats to you and others if you don't.

But for those of us who aren't going to spend much time or money in Thailand pulling out of vaginas at the crucial moment to masturbate ourselves to a finish no matter how close to the girl's mouth we can shoot it or even into it every now and then, that doesn't really replace getting a full and complete beginning-to-end BBBJ+CIM in my book.