Thread: Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand
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09-22-18 12:36 #166
Posts: 666Originally Posted by Eszpresszo [View Original Post]
They ask me if I'm their white knight upon a fiery steed. That's because late at night they toss and turn and dream of what they need. I answer back what kind of hero do they want. To that they say. He's got to be strong. And he's got to be fast. And he's got to be fresh from the fight. He's got to be sure. And it's got to be soon. And he's got to be larger than life! Larger than life! To that I said, you probably are waiting for God.
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09-22-18 12:02 #165
Posts: 5452Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]Me=IF you are going to indulge in a life of bareback fucking, I strongly recommend you
(list) get a vasectomySyzygies=Also you seem to claim your measures are more effective than a condom, which is extremely fanciful and I doubt there is any evidence for it. Condoms ARE known to be effective against HIV. I don't see any reason to belittle those using a condom at all. They are going to be at less risk of catching many diseases and obviously less likely to cause a pregnancy, one of the highest risks.
In all likelihood, she has never met or been with a man who is circumcised, has had a vasectomy AND is in possession of a current negative blood check result document other than me. I have never sat next to a man in Thailand where the subject has come up who could claim to have just those three known significant precautions on his side as we are both heading out for a night of bar hopping. Those three measures alone make me one of the safest men to have sex with tonight, bareback or not, in all of Bangkok. LOL. And that isn't even mentioning the other safety factors I listed.
Show of hands, and we're obviously on the honor system here, how many guys reading this thread can say they at this moment have taken just those three precautions while at the same time has or would go bareback tonight if the girl was fine with it or can absolutely guarantee their condom will be used 100% properly and stay intact without slipping, tearing, breaking or failing?
The precautions the condom guy is using will only work if he uses them properly every time and they never fail. In fact, for preventing pregnancy, my vasectomy is 20 times more effective than his condom even if he uses it properly 100% of the time (I read that on one of those condom info pamphlets inside the box. LOL). My precautions work whether I give them a thought or not, whether I'm shit-faced drunk or not, whether I'm overwhelmed with horniness or only middling into it, whether I'm clumsy and nervous or sharp as a tack and, moreover, whether I'm with someone who would prefer I use a condom or not.
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09-22-18 11:56 #164
Posts: 1575Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
As for hookers getting pregnant, if the father is a foreigner, the baby becomes a passport to freedom and security. If your reference is to the local men, then I am as baffled as you are.
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09-22-18 11:43 #163
Posts: 1232Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
In my opinion, given the higher risk of HIV for the women, this makes a man demanding BBFS from a sex worker selfish and borderline abusive. Sure, there's usually semi-informed consent, but regardless of that, condoms are such an exceedingly simple solution that reduce the risk to the girl from substantial to negligible.
Even if I'm fully capable of convincing someone to voluntarily cross the street blindfolded for money, should I really be doing that?
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09-22-18 10:52 #162
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Also you seem to claim your measures are more effective than a condom, which is extremely fanciful and I doubt there is any evidence for it. Condoms ARE known to be effective against HIV. I don't see any reason to belittle those using a condom at all. They are going to be at less risk of catching many diseases and obviously less likely to cause a pregnancy, one of the highest risks.
I never ever got any girl pregnant, however it must be that some guys are causing unwanted pregnancies somehow, and there are girls claiming to take precautions of some sort that were not effective. After a condom accident I did make sure the girl took other precautions, and naturally condom accidents are fairly rare if lube is used properly and ensure no air bubbles when putting it on, with good technique. For marathon fucks it can be necessary to change the condom. I don't like condoms sure, but put up with some thin Japanese ones, that I supply myself. I have cancelled with girls insisting to use her own thick or wrong sized condom. Would probably be useless for me. Fortunately 98% of girls are O.K. with my condoms, and maybe 99% for Thais. I have definitely met a few Thai girls that accidentally had a baby from a non Thai man, probably a customer in each case. Even more met hookers stupidly getting pregnant to Thai boys, with boy often doing a runner to a new girl at some point. Teenage pregnancies are high, and abortions low. Why would a hooker be so stupid as to have a baby? Hard to fathom. Why not wait?
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09-22-18 10:14 #161
Posts: 1056Russian Rouletter with 2 or 3 bullets?
Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
Theories like these are like the Buddhism of the Pattaya hookers, who believe sacrificing a chicken will cure them. The Pattaya "Buddhists" might be more scientific.
The risks are real. Deal with them and be careful about what you read on the Net.
I'm adopting a new approach: bonking airline cabin crew who are glad of the extra $$, more so the Americans who are taxed on their per dime but not on what I pay. I figure the risks are lower as they are unprepared, are only doing one customer a day (I have my suspicions about yesterday's stack them high bonk) and they have to be uber careful). I get a good rate too and so far, so good.
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09-22-18 04:03 #160
Posts: 5452Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
I will repeat now what I have posted several times, almost as many times as the subject has come up, that IF you are going to indulge in a life of bareback fucking, I strongly recommend you get yourself circumcised, get a vasectomy, don't go bareback unless you have a current (within 1-2 months) negative HIV + other STI blood test result document from a qualified clinic, avoid any obvious visual or otherwise seriously problematic and suspiciously unhealthy vaginas, keep every pertinent body part well lubed at all times, avoid as much as possible prolonged "rough" kinds of sexual activities that might cause skin abrasions, always roll out of bed and wash your package with soapy water within minutes after finishing and take a leak (avoiding the Code Word trigger here) soon after.
IMO, for men who routinely engage in bareback fucking AS WELL AS the occasional "forgetting" to wear a condom, being "too drunk" to wear a condom or that the girl "didn't ask me" to wear a condom guys, those pro-active measures and actions that I have taken and that I strongly recommend other barebackers take are the only true technical means to avoid catching as well as infecting your sexual partners with anything nasty along with avoiding unplanned pregnancy.
Understanding and appreciating the reasons women take all kinds of physical and emotional risks with a man and he with her, being more acquainted with the man and he with her, etc. are all nice additions to the mix. But nothing compares with taking those actual pro-active actions and measures I listed above and have repeated several times previously. If anything, those pro-active measures very much trump any well-meaning effort of most guys I have ever known who say they always try to use a condom and so should everyone else. IMO, they are letting themselves off easy with that approach compared to the far more effective pro-active measures they could take instead.
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09-22-18 03:17 #159
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
If I did needles, gays, LBs, etc. I sure she would be doing anything with me at all.
Needles and BB ass fucking remain far greater risks, and quite hard to identify males that really caught HIV another way, and they can easily be lying about exactly what they did. There are probably a lot more likely ways to die. Plenty of studies showed persons did not catch it from their HIV partner with certain safer practices. E. g. I think DATY was considered pretty safe. We don't use protection for that and is unlikely to be needed. I think it is possible to catch Chlamydia from a BBBJ (although rare) and that is how I believe I got it once.
For all those village kids, who lost both parents to HIV, would be interesting to know the percentages of the causes, if could be obtained truthfully. Could be a high percentage of cases where needles were involved at least for the guy. Could be that some of the women were ass fucked, using wild speculation, although they could catch it from BBFS. It really isn't that easy for the male partner to get it, one would think, if he is not a bisexual and not a drug user. Can be the male caught from his wife too, but that might be less than 10% of the cases. If fuck the HIV person BBFS enough times, eventually the risks catch up with you or just get unlucky.
I imagine that older guys are thinking that they have only so many years left anyway, so why not enjoy, taking a few faint risks. There are riskier things, like how many Farangs joined the Pattaya Flying Club, "jumping" (or being jumped) off tall buildings. How many guys caught HIV from a blood transfusion? I certainly met at least one Hemophiliac (spelling) years ago that got HIV from blood transfusion. Blood banks don't want any guys that do hookers, but I am not sure that hookers are actually riskier than non P4P population.
I theorise that doing BBFS with a very small number of well known women, is less risky that BB with any girl that is always willing as a matter of course. Early days in Thailand I was less careful as had no wife to pass on any type of STD. So that is the vastly bigger risk. Catching any type of very transmittable STD, and passing on to GF, wife, etc. HIV gets an unproportionate amount of the publicity. There are plenty of STDs including ones I never heard of before.
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09-21-18 23:00 #158
Posts: 3474Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
Next time your about to get it on and pull out the condom, pay attention to detail for a change. Notice how the girl didn't inspect the package? Didn't bother to check the condoms integrity. Just accepted that the condom was a normal condom when in fact it was anything but. Girl can want to practice safe sex but when you add liquor, overnight stays and dark rooms to the mix anything goes. She didn't check your condom then she didn't check the condom if the guy who cut off the tip.
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09-21-18 21:33 #157
Posts: 514Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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09-21-18 18:23 #156
Posts: 42Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw [View Original Post]
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09-21-18 14:01 #155
Posts: 15926Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
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09-21-18 12:34 #154
Posts: 1575Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
Of course, abortion, from a Buddhist viewpoint, is an act of killing and is negative, generally speaking. But it depends on the circumstances.
If the unborn child will be retarded or if the birth will create serious problems for the parent, these are cases where there can be an exception. I think abortion should be approved or disapproved according to each circumstance.
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09-21-18 12:22 #153
Posts: 15926Originally Posted by Mostek6502 [View Original Post]
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09-21-18 10:48 #152
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I also accept you have found lots of ladies from all strata of society who took this risk but in my opinion they are foolish and furthermore I suggest they only do so to please the man which can be for any number of ulterior motives from desperation for a mate, loneliness, horniness, money and yes also out of ignorance.
I am not judging anybody, simply stating the reality that there are risks associated with BBFS for both parties and despite your own experiences I still believe really smart health conscious women aware of these risks are unlikely to go BBFS until they are much more acquainted with the guy.