Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Paulie97]

From the Wapo comments section:

"BREAKING NEWS! On today's Fox News announcement, Vladimir Putin has ordered all Russian flags to be lowered at half mast. " logcabin 1836.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media...aves-fox-news/

[Elvis 2008]

However, in stark contrast to many (including you), I have the ability to keep my personal opinions separate from my observations with respect to objective fact (s). So, when I post about a specific piece of evidence, or a specific set of facts, I do my best to stay within the parameters those facts delineate. Also, I am always happy and ready to engage in fact-based debates and discussions. And I've even challenged the narrative-mongers to such debates. The response has either been more narrative or, more often (wait for it), nothing but crickets.

I fully understand what confirmation bias is, and I studiously avoid it. I let the facts shape my view, whereas others (like you) see everything through the lens of their preferred narrative.

Another fine example of projection by you. Blinders much?

You are so clueless it hurts. Your ego is the size of a mountain as you pat yourself on the back for facts and then are clueless to as what they really are.

Seymour Hersh beaks the story on the Nordstream pipeline bombing. It goes into meticulous detail. If even one fact of the report is wrong, they can toss the whole thing, so is that what the government does? No, they do exactly what you would expect if all the facts are correct. They assert he has one source, they bring up times he was wrong in the past, and they make him and not the facts the issue upon which people judge.

And let's get real. You did not read Hersh's story. You just read the bullshit "fact checkers" story.

The next thing to do is the classic Democratic douche move and slam me as a Tucker Carlson listening, closed minded right winger. Only issue with that is Hersh is anything but a right winger. He is as liberal as they come. Still, anyone telling truth to the progressive narrative is a right winger these days.

Then there is this kid Jack Teixeira leaking documents about the Ukraine war. He is arrested and of course, those in the military industrial complex call the information he was releasing disinformation and misinformation but once again they do not give any specifics as to what he released was wrong. So if someone states facts harmful to the government narrative, and the government does not state they are untrue specifically, they probably are true.

Quite frankly, I found the whole story to be so outrageous that I believed it to be true. Dramfrree said this guy was a CIA plant, but I did not see any of the information Teixeira released to be helpful to the CIA. I put that at low odds around 10%.

Well, now it turns out Teixeira was leaking information about the war since it began, and his information was vey accurate. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...nvaded-ukraine.

When you call Russians orcs, JM, you are advertising your cognitive bias. You swallowed whole that absolutely idiotic notion that because Russian ships were near Nordstream, the Russians blew up said pipeline. I would say that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, but that got topped.

"In what sounds like it might just be a comically absurd attempt to portray Teixeira as a Russian asset, prosecutors this filed new information with the court, noting that he once shot a vintage Soviet pistol. " At this point, I may as well be a Russian agent because I once had a shot of Stolichnaya vodka.

So now that we or rather I know that what Teixeira released was 99+% true it begs the question what is the USA doing in Ukraine. This fight for Democracy crap always was nonsense. The second part was to weaken Russia but for what? They do not seem all that strong to begin with. The DOD inflating Russian military strength to get money has been going for 50+ years.

Well, we already know that Biden has lined his family's pockets with American aid packages before, but this war is on a scale 100 X larger than Hunter and Burisma. It also shows me the dumb Dems still believe in Russiagate and think weakening Putin will help them in 2024.

[Paulie97]

Just look around how many Russian and Chinese women are working as Prostitute (Masseuse) in Europe and American and eager to marry a white men, and how many Americans or G7's women are working in sex industry in Russian or China ((legally or illegally), almost zero. If you think you are superior, would you like others dig all your holes?

Based on your reasoning white supremacist idiots in the states would never be found living in run down trailer parks but they often are. False pride is often all someone has, and in that case they'll cling to it with a death grip. National, racial or ethnic pride can certainly co-exist with some individuals of the same seeking better economic opportunities elsewhere. Your whole angle is a laughable non-sequitur.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...s/Non-Sequitur

Monger forums truly win the day for the volume of stupid remarks found. Sports forums are a close second.

[HessenStud]

Both Russians and Chinese view themselves as superior to other races and ethnicities, so I'm guessing any pairing could be a real shit show!

Just look around how many Russian and Chinese women are working as Prostitute (Masseuse) in Europe and American and eager to marry a white men, and how many Americans or G7's women are working in sex industry in Russian or China ((legally or illegally), almost zero. If you think you are superior, would you like others dig all your holes?

[Jmsuttr]

Pretty much OSINT: Only this year half a million contract soldiers are going to join Russian military. 1600 tanks, new and taken from conservation are going to be on a front line, 2 new repair tank plants built and mobile repair facilities expanded closer to to the lines of engagement. Only in and around Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) the daily losses for AFU for the last 3 months were appr. 16,000 dead per month plus injured. These are all horrific numbers. The team incentives for each modern Western tank with a private funds added in reach $200,000 and specially trained and equipped teams are standing by. This is highly non-symmetrical conflict: Ukraine would need a foreign army and there are no takers. Just call the guys below and see if they answer your call:

It's telling that the only links you post are to inane videos, or stupid cartoons. You rattle off BS and pretend there's some kind of factual basis or authoritative source behind it. It's my guess that everything you post comes straight from the Kremlin's preferred propaganda sources. I'm sure you regularly suck at the tit of RT, and similar Putin mouthpieces. And that's perfectly fine, as you're free to believe whatever deluded BS you want.

But throwing out supposed "data" and "information," while refusing to reveal your sources, is intellectually dishonest. Nobody is going to take your word for anything, eapecially since you've firmly cemented your reputation as a Putin butt-boy. So it's the height of hilarity to watch you try to pretend that you actually care about objective fact and truth.

Let's take your tank production "figures," as just one example. Here's a source that provides information that pretty much blows your narrative out of the water:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...st-in-ukraine/

The article starts by talking about the effect of sanctions on things like optical systems for tanks, then it moves on to the more mundane (yet essential) topic of ball bearings.

"But optics aren't the only thing in short supply in the Russian armored vehicle industry. The Russians also are desperately short of ball-bearings, which they used to get from the United States and Europe before the United States and Europe tightened their sanctions on Russian industry.

A new study from the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington DC confirmed what independent analysts have been saying for months. Tanks and other modern armored vehicles need a lot of ball-bearings. And Russia doesn't have enough bearings to maintain steady production of new vehicles".

"The ball-bearing problem might be even harder for Moscow to solve. Even after trading Sosna-Us for 1 PN96 MT-02's, Uralvagonzavod and Omsktransmash still were at an impasse. Workers were building or restoring most of a tank, then running out of parts.

It's for that reason that Russia has struggled to make good the 2,000 or more tanks it has lost in 14 months of hard fighting in Ukraine. Russian forces need at least 150 new or restored tanks a month just to maintain their front-line strength".

"Careful analysis of activity at Uralvagonzavod and Omsktransmash strongly hints the factories every month are shipping out just a few dozen modern-ish tanks: either new-build T-72 BM3's or T-90 Ms or reconditioned T-72's, T-80's and T-90's that technicians have pulled out of long-term storage.

Which is why the Russians are traveling back in time, technologically speaking, and reactivating 1960's-vintage T-62's and 1950's-vintage T-55's that have been moldering in storage since the 1980's".

So there you have it. A source that explains why the Russians have no balls (bearings, that is), and explains what it means for ACTUAL tank production, which is different from the propaganda coming out of the pro-Russia outlets.

So here's a direct challenge: Do you have the balls to post the actual sources of your alleged facts? Or are you as much of a eunuch as the Russian tank industry?

[GDreams]

You will have no military left in 10 months. You guys truly are delusional.

Aren't you the guy who repeatedly fell for Ukrainian scammers and couldn't get laid in pussy heaven?

[Questner]

We are certainly not listening to you. The fact is Russia has been on the offensive for 3 months and achieved nothing. Ukraine can probably take back half of Donbass with 10 Leopards given the Russians have murdered most of their own forces.

Pretty much OSINT: Only this year half a million contract soldiers are going to join Russian military. 1600 tanks, new and taken from conservation are going to be on a front line, 2 new repair tank plants built and mobile repair facilities expanded closer to to the lines of engagement. Only in and around Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) the daily losses for AFU for the last 3 months were appr. 16,000 dead per month plus injured. These are all horrific numbers. The team incentives for each modern Western tank with a private funds added in reach $200,000 and specially trained and equipped teams are standing by. This is highly non-symmetrical conflict: Ukraine would need a foreign army and there are no takers. Just call the guys below and see if they answer your call:

[VinDici]

Today Russia has got her own KKK...

An attempt was made here, poor little orc.

[Xpartan]

Both Russians and Chinese view themselves as superior to other races and ethnicities, so I'm guessing any pairing could be a real shit show!

True. Of theses two ethnicities, however, only the Chinese have at least some historical evidence to back up that claim (please take it as half joke -- I'm the last person to support any superior race theory).

And, no matter the country in which the parents decided to settle, any children would be "half-breeds," with all the negatives that inevitably accompany that status. The problem with ubermenschen is that they place a high value on the purity of the bloodline, which doesn't make for a hospitable attitude toward mutts.

Again, totally true. Half-breed kids will always suffer growing up in either country. That's not even debatable.

Which means, if the parents (or parent) moves to a third country (assuming they can), then they won't be doing anything to help either Russia's or China's demographic problem. Same thing if the child leaves when they're older and on their own. I guess it's an occupational hazard for any "Master Race" that they either eliminate or alienate any who don't meet their purity standards.

Yes, but "assuming they can" is a big qualification. China might be betting on keeping these kids in China when they grow up, which, for a totalitarian regime, is not that far-fetched come to think about it. But what's really going to happen 20-30 years from now is a crapshoot anyway.

[Jmsuttr]

You will have no military left in 10 months. You guys truly are delusional.

Wasn't true then, and isn't true now. Once again, zero facts to back up your assertion. You might have better luck if you stick to predictions about the CDMX mongering scene.

BTW, whenever I see or hear any of those so-called experts who made wrong predictions, and they haven't acknowledged their mistakes, I automatically flag them as unserious posers. No one is infallible, but anyone who cares about the truth should have the intellectual integrity to admit past mistakes.

An honest pundit or expert would detail the reasoning behind the wrong prediction and then move forward to explain how their analysis has evolved. Shameless narrative-mongers and self-promoters will never do that.

[VinDici]

You will have no military left in 10 months. You guys truly are delusional.

Talk about delusional. You have none left now, just prisoners with HIV forced to fight to get some meds.

[Jmsuttr]

Russian girls who would be interested in mating with the Chinese would have an intention to leave stepmother-Russia behind and shut the door behind them. As much as they might get a buyer's remorse later on (because China is not exactly a promised land), their intention would be to relocate to China.

Also I think it was you who reported official Chinese dating commercials on Russian TV. I don't know if China would easily let children of Chinese citizens leave the country.

Both Russians and Chinese view themselves as superior to other races and ethnicities, so I'm guessing any pairing could be a real shit show!

And, no matter the country in which the parents decided to settle, any children would be "half-breeds," with all the negatives that inevitably accompany that status. The problem with ubermenschen is that they place a high value on the purity of the bloodline, which doesn't make for a hospitable attitude toward mutts.

Which means, if the parents (or parent) moves to a third country (assuming they can), then they won't be doing anything to help either Russia's or China's demographic problem. Same thing if the child leaves when they're older and on their own. I guess it's an occupational hazard for any "Master Race" that they either eliminate or alienate any who don't meet their purity standards.

[DramaFree11]

We are certainly not listening to you. The fact is Russia has been on the offensive for 3 months and achieved nothing. Ukraine can probably take back half of Donbass with 10 Leopards given the Russians have murdered most of their own forces.

You will have no military left in 10 months. You guys truly are delusional.

[GDreams]

You guys truly live in a Fantasy world. Ukraine is done. The sooner they figure that out, many lives will be saved, we can move on, and we will avoid World War 3. Sometimes I actually believe this is what you want. You wanted a war, now we all have to deal with the consequences, and Ukraine is being destroyed, but in your liberal world this might be a win.

Ukraine military has out performed every ones expectations, but they are done and the support from their allies is slowing down. If there government was not so corrupt who knows what might have happened, but they always have to cheat, lie and steal. You guys watch CNN and All the other crap networks. The sad part is your actually believe there Crap.

We are certainly not listening to you. The fact is Russia has been on the offensive for 3 months and achieved nothing. Ukraine can probably take back half of Donbass with 10 Leopards given the Russians have murdered most of their own forces.

[Jmsuttr]

Today Russia has got her own KKK, namely Kaliningrad Region, Kuril Islands and Krim (Crimea) as the most fortified and strategic regions of the country. Would you expect to cede Hawaii to Chinese, San Diego to Mexico and Chesapeake Bay to, let's say, the British? Nope. How successful would Mexico be in retaking control of Texas should we supply it with tanks, ammunition and finance the conflict? Nonsense, it would never happen. So, how do you think Crimea is different? The thing that had pissed the agencies in the West was the secrecy, the boldness and the swiftness of the 2014 operation which was achieved without even one round shot and almost with complete support of the local population.

The other important distinction was the decision in Moscow to support the region, the administration and the people who opposed the right wing nationalistic coup, but at the same not to extend the same support in other regions of Ukraine, where the opposition and resistance to the coup was ultimately defeated by all known dictatorial means. In the recent interview the Russian President admitted that the country in that time was not ready to offer such support on one hand, and relied on the process of negotiations on the other.

'The Crimea is ours and always will be' - the WWII poster below.

'Ours' meaning of course Russian belonging to the people of Crimea. Ukrainians, Russians, Crimean Tatars, Greeks etc. But not to Germany, Britain, Poland, France, Turkey or any other country.

A: Because he's a cowardly clown!

I responded directly to your bogus assertions with clear evidence that debunks any so-called claim of Russia over Crimea. The full post isn't very far down the page, so it's obvious that you chose to ignore, rather than address it. That's a clear mark of cowardice AND a tacit admission that you're unable to refute the facts presented. As to those facts, here's a short excerpt:

Russia OFFICIALLY recognized Ukrainian independence in August 1991.

If Russia had any territorial claims to make, or any objection to the referendum being held in Crimea, or the Donbas, that was the time to raise the issue. All the events of 1991 detailed above are conclusive evidence that Crimea, Donbas, and ALL the territory of the Ukraine SSR, were considered part of the newly independent Ukraine. And that fact was officially recognized by Russia, Ukraine itself, and the world at large.

In 1997 two treaties were signed between Ukraine and Russia. One was the "Partition Treaty on the Status and Conditions of the Black Sea Fleet," and the other was the "Russian-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty" In neither of those treaties did Russia seek to exert a claim on Crimea or any other area.

Two additional points re 1997:

1. As part of the Friendship Treaty, BOTH nations recognized the inviolability of EXISTING borders. And those borders included Crimea + Donbas as part of Ukraine (see 1991).

2. As part of the Black Sea Fleet Status Treaty, by agreeing to pay Ukraine for the lease of the naval base at Sevastopol, Russia explicitly recognized it as sovereign Ukrainian territory. They, Russia, were leasing from the owner, Ukraine.

I could go on, but there's no need.

All the source links are contained in my original post. But you won't check them, or even acknowledge them, because you've clearly shown your cowardly stripes.

Here's an interesting question I'm sure the forum would find fascinating: Are you the kind of coward who, when confronted, pisses himself in public? Or are you the kind of coward who slinks off to his hole and pisses himself in private?

I'm guessing you're the second kind. Maybe we should start a forum poll, eh? Or maybe it doesn't even matter, 'cause either way you're still a cowardly self-pisser.