Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Hestendk]

Newsweek.

. . In just the last few days, the narrative has palpably shifted. First, Thomas Friedman of the New York Times sent up a trial balloon, a clear signal straight from one of the White House's most dependable stenographers:

Dear reader: The Ukraine war is not over. And privately, USA Officials are a lot more concerned about Ukraine's leadership than they are letting on. There is deep mistrust between the White House and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyconsiderably more than has been reported.

What are those limits regarding Ukraine? Well, for starters, Zelensky rules much like his adversary, the universally denounced Putin, does. Zelensky shut down all opposition media in Ukraine, then banned opposition political parties. He declared that Russia would have to kill every single citizen of Kyiv to get to him, but also found time to pose for a melodramatic Annie Leibovitz portrait spread for American fashion magazine Vogue. Zelensky also fired the Ukrainian equivalent of the USA Attorney General and the head of the CIA, on the very same day, perhaps during breaks from his grandiose photo shoot.

Like Friedman, CBS News apparently got the memo to start tarnishing Zelensky's halo. That network explored the folly of sending a mountain of USA Taxpayer money into one of the most corrupt countries on Earth, though later deleted its tweet on the topic. CBS admitted that vast amounts of American largesse has been pilfered, conceding that "much of the billions of dollars of military aid that the USA Is sending to Ukraine doesn't make it to the front lines. " CBS also quoted an on-the-ground operative who disclosed the reality of America's generosity: "like 30 percent of it reaches its final destination. ".

So, American taxpayers borrow tens of billions of dollars their country does not have, to send fortunes to the unaccountable leader of a corrupt country, all to escalate a war in which America has no vital national interest. Oh, and during a recession with runaway inflation at home. Gotcha. That reality would be damning enough, but Zelensky just upped the ante, making American escalation even more wrongheaded. . . . Zelensky has now put out feelers to the USA's primary adversary, China, promising a "bridge to Europe".

Putin is a thug and Zelensky is a corrupt autocrat. Their battle involves no vital USA National interest. Biden's intervention harms America and worsens the plight of the Ukrainian people, who have become pawns in a battle of Black Sea oligarchs. America should insist on dialogue, negotiation, and de-escalation. If the parties refuse, then it's time for an American approach of realism and restraint, because this is simply not our fight, and Zelensky sure as hell is not our fighter. Steve Cortez.

Comment: The sane solution here is for the USA to remain neutral like Switzerland and sell arms and supplies to both sides for cash. However, this option will not occur since "much of the billions of dollars of. . . Aid that the US is sending to Ukraine" is skimmed and sold, presumably by the Ukrainian mafia with kickbacks to "The Big Guy" and other politicians. Those who are chickenhawks here should stop trying to get others to fight for them (Hawk for war) and stop being Chickens themselves and enlist in the Ukie Legion! Practice what you preach! It's a rich politicians'$ war and a poor man's fight. If this is what you want, enlist in the Ukie Legion and leave the rest of us out of it!

https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-na...pinion-1731875

Linking to an article that's an Opinion Article what's your point with that?

You complain that Zelinsky uses his power to fires people he want to change in the Government.

Thats fully inside the scope of the democratic way to rule.

Zelinsky been replacing alot of people lately, and In my opinion its because there is now a need for different people.

Same as a Company, when you start Person X is probbaly a Good CEO, but after 5 years he is maybe a Bad CEO because the company is somewhere else then 5 years ago.

You write it like 70% of the help is stolen, which is untrue, alot of the promised help are not arrived yet, and some of it is comming slower then promised.

To Call Zelinsky a Autocrat show you don't know what an Autocrat is.

There is No proff of larger scale stealing of the Weapons help, yes there been some stealing and its beeing delt with.

There also been private people who collected money and used them for own gains, this also beeing delt with.

Zelinsky also not banned all opposition political parties, the Rada banned all Communist / Russian Parties until the war is over.

There is still many Opposition parties operating today, including big one with members in Rada (Poroschenko etc).

Most of what you write is plain old BS, you not even know what a Presidenst job is, you complain that he istrying to get attentions of the media, which is how you infact make sure Ukrain is not forgotten.

I like that you want the the USA should insist in dialogue.

You remember Russia said they would NOT invade?

How do you have a positive dialogue with a asshole who one days says one thing and the next day do the opposite of that?

[Travv]

Newsweek.

. . In just the last few days, the narrative has palpably shifted. First, Thomas Friedman of the New York Times sent up a trial balloon, a clear signal straight from one of the White House's most dependable stenographers:

Dear reader: The Ukraine war is not over. And privately, USA Officials are a lot more concerned about Ukraine's leadership than they are letting on. There is deep mistrust between the White House and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky—considerably more than has been reported.

What are those limits regarding Ukraine? Well, for starters, Zelensky rules much like his adversary, the universally denounced Putin, does. Zelensky shut down all opposition media in Ukraine, then banned opposition political parties. He declared that Russia would have to kill every single citizen of Kyiv to get to him, but also found time to pose for a melodramatic Annie Leibovitz portrait spread for American fashion magazine Vogue. Zelensky also fired the Ukrainian equivalent of the USA Attorney General and the head of the CIA, on the very same day, perhaps during breaks from his grandiose photo shoot.

Like Friedman, CBS News apparently got the memo to start tarnishing Zelensky's halo. That network explored the folly of sending a mountain of USA Taxpayer money into one of the most corrupt countries on Earth, though later deleted its tweet on the topic. CBS admitted that vast amounts of American largesse has been pilfered, conceding that "much of the billions of dollars of military aid that the USA Is sending to Ukraine doesn't make it to the front lines. " CBS also quoted an on-the-ground operative who disclosed the reality of America's generosity: "like 30 percent of it reaches its final destination. ".

So, American taxpayers borrow tens of billions of dollars their country does not have, to send fortunes to the unaccountable leader of a corrupt country, all to escalate a war in which America has no vital national interest. Oh, and during a recession with runaway inflation at home. Gotcha. That reality would be damning enough, but Zelensky just upped the ante, making American escalation even more wrongheaded. . . . Zelensky has now put out feelers to the USA's primary adversary, China, promising a "bridge to Europe".

Putin is a thug and Zelensky is a corrupt autocrat. Their battle involves no vital USA National interest. Biden's intervention harms America and worsens the plight of the Ukrainian people, who have become pawns in a battle of Black Sea oligarchs. America should insist on dialogue, negotiation, and de-escalation. If the parties refuse, then it's time for an American approach of realism and restraint, because this is simply not our fight, and Zelensky sure as hell is not our fighter. Steve Cortez.

Comment: The sane solution here is for the USA to remain neutral like Switzerland and sell arms and supplies to both sides for cash. However, this option will not occur since "much of the billions of dollars of. . . Aid that the US is sending to Ukraine" is skimmed and sold, presumably by the Ukrainian mafia with kickbacks to "The Big Guy" and other politicians. Those who are chickenhawks here should stop trying to get others to fight for them (Hawk for war) and stop being Chickens themselves and enlist in the Ukie Legion! Practice what you preach! It's a rich politicians'$ war and a poor man's fight. If this is what you want, enlist in the Ukie Legion and leave the rest of us out of it!

https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-na...pinion-1731875

[Hestendk]

Gonzalo Lira gave the number of Russian troops assigned to the invasion. You gave the total number of Russian troops available. Many of the Russian troops are posted on the Chinese or other borders and are not available for use in Ukraine since they are protecting distant regions. I googled and found this number of troops from a neutral website link posted below which roughly agrees with the number of Russian troops that Gonzalo Lira said were being used. Since Ukraine doesn't have to defend its border with Poland, it has freed up Ukie troops but still has not stopped Russia from taking the Donbass region. Seems to me Gonzalo Lira is correct!

Also, why are you still posting here? Shouldn't you be at the Ukrainian Embassy as was suggested a few days ago, taking the Ukie military oath for the International Legion and preparing to take your place in the trenches on the Eastern Front near the Donbass?

I suspect the biggest battle will be to get the chickenhawks, keyboard commandos and call of duty Rambos from their mommies basement and get them enlisted in the Ukie Legion! The Ukies should be able to draft a brigade of chickenhawks off of ISG posters that drool for war but refuse to leave their Xbox game consoles and head out to the Ukrainian trenches where they demand the rest of us be sent! LOL.

How many troops has Russia sent into invasion of Ukraine?

Estimates of the total number of Russian forces involved in the invasion of Ukraine vary but around 150,000 troops are thought to be deployed in total.

https://en.as.com/en/2022/02/24/late...70_894320.html

Your quoting an article from 26 February 2022 ?

A good Guess about how many troops / Meccernaries Russia have in Ukraine would be +300.000 that's been or are involved, this counts all troops, including 200 & 300 Status.

Then people talk about the Global Firepower rankings.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...ountry2=russia

I always been saying this is BS.

One thing is to count how many Tanks Russia have, when knowing little bit about russia and there way to operate then you need count how many tanks are infact WORKING.

If Russia was so strong as soem people still think, then Ukrain would be fighting inside Kyiv already, also the Air defence is still working in Ukraine inclduign planes.

I myself personally seen 4 Newly made Landingsstrips for fighting planes, seen more then 20 planes parked at these (different planes, tail tag).

To think the Russians are winning is based on what proff?

Last month they gained 0. 02% of land compared the month before.

Before suggesting me to join the Foreign legion, then let me come before you there.

I'm workign with The foreign legion but as Support staff, on the eve of 23 Feb., I prepared the Bagpack and the weapons we had in house and was ready to drive.

On the 24 aot of us who was ready as foreigners was asked to wait and bette make noise and get support down.

My Team (4 guys) managed to get more then 75 highly trained European soldiers down and equip them and they was send into battle and helped liberate Irpin / Bucha area.

No dead ones yet of these, but some with injuries.

All the ones I spoken with, everyone of them says that the Russians using old tactics at best or else just running without any tactics and they where unprepared and poorly trained.

[Xpartan]

How many troops has Russia sent into invasion of Ukraine?

Estimates of the total number of Russian forces involved in the invasion of Ukraine vary but around 150,000 troops are thought to be deployed in total.

https://en.as.com/en/2022/02/24/late...70_894320.html

I'm not arguing with you that the main 2 reasons Russians fucked up so spectacularly are their eternal arrogance and sheer incompetence. That wouldn't be the first time in their history, of course. They decided to show up, rain fire on Ukrainian cities, kill a few hundred civilians, and wait till Ukrainians drop their drawers and bow down to the boss.

That doesn't matter though. Even if your sources are correct, and even if we assume that the ENTIRE Ukrainian army from the get go was fighting the advancing Russian troops along the 700-mile front line (a laughably impossible assumption, because the attack took AFU by surprise) -- even then your and your boy Gonzalo's "3 to 1" formula flies out of the window.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

[Travv]

Gonzalo Lira gave the number of Russian troops assigned to the invasion. You gave the total number of Russian troops available. Many of the Russian troops are posted on the Chinese or other borders and are not available for use in Ukraine since they are protecting distant regions. I googled and found this number of troops from a neutral website link posted below which roughly agrees with the number of Russian troops that Gonzalo Lira said were being used. Since Ukraine doesn't have to defend its border with Poland, it has freed up Ukie troops but still has not stopped Russia from taking the Donbass region. Seems to me Gonzalo Lira is correct!

Also, why are you still posting here? Shouldn't you be at the Ukrainian Embassy as was suggested a few days ago, taking the Ukie military oath for the International Legion and preparing to take your place in the trenches on the Eastern Front near the Donbass?

I suspect the biggest battle will be to get the chickenhawks, keyboard commandos and call of duty Rambos from their mommies basement and get them enlisted in the Ukie Legion! The Ukies should be able to draft a brigade of chickenhawks off of ISG posters that drool for war but refuse to leave their Xbox game consoles and head out to the Ukrainian trenches where they demand the rest of us be sent! LOL.

How many troops has Russia sent into invasion of Ukraine?

Estimates of the total number of Russian forces involved in the invasion of Ukraine vary but around 150,000 troops are thought to be deployed in total.

https://en.as.com/en/2022/02/24/late...70_894320.html

I've almost quit arguing about politics in this and the other forums, but this lie is so dumb and outrageous--how can I just let it go?

February 2022, before the Russian invasion. Source: Global Firepower.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...ountry2=russia

Russia; Ukraine.

Active Personnel: 850,000; 200,000.

Paramilitary: 250,000; 50,000.

Tanks: 12,420; 2,596.

Armored Vehicles: 30,122; 12,303.

Total Aircraft: 4,945; 387.

Total Helicopters: 2,087; 146.

Naval Fleet: 605; 38.

[Xpartan]

Based on that criteria you'll be posting here every day, several times a day as the supply of lies, half-truths, and logical fallacies is boundless. Best policy is to not login to the site if you have more important and productive things to do.

LOL, you've got a point.

But Travv's posted a direct and vicious falsehood, not their typical half-truths or logical fallacies. That he's now trying to say, oh no, it wasn't me, just some nutso blogger, makes it even more pathetic, IMHO.

[DramaFree11]

Then what the hell are they waiting for? 6 months in and as it stands now they've lost in the range of 40 to 75 K personnel, 1,768 of those silly jack in the box death trap tanks, 4,014 armored combat vehicles, 936 artillery systems, 223 aircraft, 117 air defense systems, 2,914 vehicles and tankers, 15 ships, etc. Etc. And all for marginal gains and two humiliating tuck tail and run defeats at Ukraine's two largest cities. Throw in the heavy economic sanctions, the many grieving Russian families of the war dead who are scared to speak out, the fact that win, lose or draw Russia is a pariah for generations, and thus far it's a lousy return on the investment, to say the least. Better shit or get off the pot. That or start to take negotiations seriously. Ukraine can field an army in the one million range and support from the West shows little signs of waning.

Puts can start by dropping the "de-Nazification" hogwash, while those on the extreme right represent only 2% of the voting population of Ukraine and have won no seats in parliament. And no the Jewish president, son of Holocaust survivors isn't a Nazi plant. LOL In case no one has noticed the Ruskies have a penchant for silly conspiracy theories just like the MAGAs, and the stance is always that of victimization while acting as the aggressor. That better explains Trump's role as Russo suck up while some of his followers have taken the same cue, shameful and unAmerican.

Pauline talk about lying. Where in the Hell is Ukraine, going to get 1 million man army. (That is trained, under 50 and sorry females do not count. You are completely delusional) You really no nothing about Ukraine. Stop watching CNN and all the other fake news. This is the words negotiations have come out of your month. Both parties should be negotiating, including your hero Pres. Z. The head clown in charge.

[DramaFree11]

I've almost quit arguing about politics in this and the other forums, but this lie is so dumb and outrageous--how can I just let it go?

February 2022, before the Russian invasion. Source: Global Firepower.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...ountry2=russia

Russia; Ukraine.

Active Personnel: 850,000; 200,000..

XMan you finally wrote a good report. I never thought Ukraine had a 3-1 edge. The rest of his report is correct about the desertions and as the war drags on it will become a bigger issue for Ukraine. They have no reserve units and grandparents do not count.

[Travv]

You also forgot to tally the unofficial and official assistance of the US Army as shown in the original attached photo entering Ukraine! The power of US Diversity and Gay Pride will defeat Russian Masculinity and the Patriarchy! LOL!

I've almost quit arguing about politics in this and the other forums, but this lie is so dumb and outrageous--how can I just let it go?

February 2022, before the Russian invasion. Source: Global Firepower.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...ountry2=russia

Russia; Ukraine.

Active Personnel: 850,000; 200,000..

[Paulie97]

I've almost quit arguing about politics in this and the other forums, but this lie is so dumb and outrageous--how can I just let it go?

Based on that criteria you'll be posting here every day, several times a day as the supply of lies, half-truths, and logical fallacies is boundless. Best policy is to not login to the site if you have more important and productive things to do.

[Paulie97]

He asserts that I am drinking Moscow's kool-aid because I point out the obviousRussia is winning and will defeat Ukraine completely and decisively.

Then what the hell are they waiting for? 6 months in and as it stands now they've lost in the range of 40 to 75 K personnel, 1,768 of those silly jack in the box death trap tanks, 4,014 armored combat vehicles, 936 artillery systems, 223 aircraft, 117 air defense systems, 2,914 vehicles and tankers, 15 ships, etc. Etc. And all for marginal gains and two humiliating tuck tail and run defeats at Ukraine's two largest cities. Throw in the heavy economic sanctions, the many grieving Russian families of the war dead who are scared to speak out, the fact that win, lose or draw Russia is a pariah for generations, and thus far it's a lousy return on the investment, to say the least. Better shit or get off the pot. That or start to take negotiations seriously. Ukraine can field an army in the one million range and support from the West shows little signs of waning.

Puts can start by dropping the "de-Nazification" hogwash, while those on the extreme right represent only 2% of the voting population of Ukraine and have won no seats in parliament. And no the Jewish president, son of Holocaust survivors isn't a Nazi plant. LOL In case no one has noticed the Ruskies have a penchant for silly conspiracy theories just like the MAGAs, and the stance is always that of victimization while acting as the aggressor. That better explains Trump's role as Russo suck up while some of his followers have taken the same cue, shameful and unAmerican.

[DramaFree11]

That's what I call service. My post wasn't up 30 minutes and you've already posted a reply. Stupid Shit in Kyiv is no doubt a great place to build your life around. Wink.

You whine with the same mantra over and over daily for months but your only alternative is for Ukraine to surrender their country, their culture and identity, toss their women to the wolves, accept tortures and executions, and submit their children to deportations and "re-education. " That isn't an option for them nor do they want it, irrespective of Zelensky. It's also not an option for the West to look the other way at this aggression against a democratic partner.

You are delusional in that your analysis is way overly simplistic with use of the black and white thinking fallacy. There are other possible outcomes besides a complete Russian defeat and surrender or else Ukraine should bend over and grab their ankles.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white

There's unlikely to be any clear cut winner and loser as in one side unconditionally surrenders. Even if Russia managed to occupy Ukraine there would still be armed resistance. Occupying territory is one thing. Holding it is another. Russia isn't going to use nukes as that's suicide. Even if only tactical nukes they'd lose the few friends they have left in the world. So with that hardly at risk and NATO weapons and greater motivation among the Ukrainians in play, it's a pretty fair fight. Russian casualties and humiliation have been high, and it would be much worse if our weapons support wasn't restrained and delayed. Your prediction of Ukrainian demise within one week proved not only laughable, but the Ruskies lost key battles running from Kyiv and Kharkiv. Make a video game of that. Currently the Ukrainians are staging counter offensives in the South. The outcome will likely come at the negotiating table where Ukraine will be in a much better position than your bend over and grab their ankles, throw their identity, culture, women, and children to the wolves suggestion. While Russia has already lost the war with the failures of their key objectives, embarrassments on the battlefield, weighty economic sanctions, and worldwide pariah status.

https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/chie...-and-sanctions

From the Western perspective, we've done what we had to do, sent the message that if one wants to change borders in Europe with aggression then there will be consequences. The appeasement you suggest of course invites more aggression. Thankfully that's how our politicians and most Americans see it. If that troubles you then you are free to surrender the freedoms you are enjoying and move to totalitarian Russia, say something they don't like, get caught with a joint and spend 15 years in Siberia. But instead you'll just hang out in the US all day posting in Stupid Shit in Kyiv. None of your predictions have panned out so far so we'll see how it goes. That or tell us all about everything you heard and saw in the Ukraine when we know you've never been. Wink.

P.S. Gas prices dropping, 50+ days and running.

You have never been to Ukraine, but why would that matter. Yes, good news that gas prices are falling.

Occasionally, maybe you could write a post about a girl or getting laid. I spent Saturday in MTY and now I am CDMX, having a great trip. You are probably slumming somewhere in Colombia, chasing fat chicks.

[Xpartan]

More support for your statement below from Gonzalo Lira:

"For those new to this blog and unfamiliar with TTG, TTG is a retired US Army Special Forces officer of Lithuanian heritage. He no longer thinks rationally about war. His hatred of all things Russian cloud his judgment. He asserts that I am drinking Moscow's kool-aid because I point out the obviousRussia is winning and will defeat Ukraine completely and decisively. TTG insists that the arrival of HIMARS and M777's are game changers and, wait for it, the Ukrainians will mount the ultimate offensive and push the Russians back to Moscow. Normally, I would not want to waste time to engage such nonsense but in this case I think it is warranted.

. . The fact that Ukraine had a three to one advantage and were embedded in defensive positions should have led to the defeat of the Russians.

I've almost quit arguing about politics in this and the other forums, but this lie is so dumb and outrageous--how can I just let it go?

February 2022, before the Russian invasion. Source: Global Firepower.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...ountry2=russia

Russia; Ukraine.

Active Personnel: 850,000; 200,000.

Paramilitary: 250,000; 50,000.

Tanks: 12,420; 2,596.

Armored Vehicles: 30,122; 12,303.

Total Aircraft: 4,945; 387.

Total Helicopters: 2,087; 146.

Naval Fleet: 605; 38.

[Paulie97]

Pres. Z. is playing the same game you are playing, he is getting many incident people killed in the process

Well you got all the Russo propaganda / lingo down, now all you need is a "Z" t-shirt to wear. Or maybe you can come up with a Z flag to fly beside your Trump flag. I'm sure all the "incident" people in your trailer park will be very impressed. LOL Meanwhile the vast majority of even Republicans support lethal aid to Ukraine so we are in good shape.

Slava Ukraini.

[Paulie97]

You truly delusional. Yes, I do want cheaper gas and peace would be even better. There is no way Ukraine wins, only in your Video Game and your Fantasy world. Unfortunately Pres. Z. is playing the same game you are playing, he is getting many incident people killed in the process and his country is being destroyed. This is not winning.

That's what I call service. My post wasn't up 30 minutes and you've already posted a reply. Stupid Shit in Kyiv is no doubt a great place to build your life around. Wink.

You whine with the same mantra over and over daily for months but your only alternative is for Ukraine to surrender their country, their culture and identity, toss their women to the wolves, accept tortures and executions, and submit their children to deportations and "re-education. " That isn't an option for them nor do they want it, irrespective of Zelensky. It's also not an option for the West to look the other way at this aggression against a democratic partner.

You are delusional in that your analysis is way overly simplistic with use of the black and white thinking fallacy. There are other possible outcomes besides a complete Russian defeat and surrender or else Ukraine should bend over and grab their ankles.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white

There's unlikely to be any clear cut winner and loser as in one side unconditionally surrenders. Even if Russia managed to occupy Ukraine there would still be armed resistance. Occupying territory is one thing. Holding it is another. Russia isn't going to use nukes as that's suicide. Even if only tactical nukes they'd lose the few friends they have left in the world. So with that hardly at risk and NATO weapons and greater motivation among the Ukrainians in play, it's a pretty fair fight. Russian casualties and humiliation have been high, and it would be much worse if our weapons support wasn't restrained and delayed. Your prediction of Ukrainian demise within one week proved not only laughable, but the Ruskies lost key battles running from Kyiv and Kharkiv. Make a video game of that. Currently the Ukrainians are staging counter offensives in the South. The outcome will likely come at the negotiating table where Ukraine will be in a much better position than your bend over and grab their ankles, throw their identity, culture, women, and children to the wolves suggestion. While Russia has already lost the war with the failures of their key objectives, embarrassments on the battlefield, weighty economic sanctions, and worldwide pariah status.

https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/chie...-and-sanctions

From the Western perspective, we've done what we had to do, sent the message that if one wants to change borders in Europe with aggression then there will be consequences. The appeasement you suggest of course invites more aggression. Thankfully that's how our politicians and most Americans see it. If that troubles you then you are free to surrender the freedoms you are enjoying and move to totalitarian Russia, say something they don't like, get caught with a joint and spend 15 years in Siberia. But instead you'll just hang out in the US all day posting in Stupid Shit in Kyiv. None of your predictions have panned out so far so we'll see how it goes. That or tell us all about everything you heard and saw in the Ukraine when we know you've never been. Wink.

P.S. Gas prices dropping, 50+ days and running.