Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Blood Red]

Correct, I will add everyone in the world has lost from this disaster. What a Mess and yet some want the killing to continue. Throwing money towards Ukraine will only prolong them getting their ass kicked and losing more lives / territory. Great job liberals.

Exactly. More money or weapons won't change the outcome (a Russian victory). Just like the Himars, or the Atacms, or the F16's, or the Leopards, or the Storm Shadow didn't and won't (in case some fool is counting on the F16s to make a difference, whenever they arrive, they will quickly burn like those Leopards are burning). Etc etc. Etc. Time to make peace and end this senseless killing.

[Blood Red]

They both lose. The only difference is the degree of loss.

Russia will be able to survive this. Ukraine on the other hand will get totally wrecked and will become a dysfunctional rump state that will never join NATO or the EU. So what was the point of all this from Ukraine's perspective? Those are the questions that Zelensky will have to answer one day, why did he walk away from the peace talks in Istanbul in 2022 March. So many lives would not be lost today.

[VinDici]

I've made a pretty solid claim, where is your evidence to the contrary?

You are so wrong, but when does the truth matter to a liberal.

[Xpartan]

You are like one of them University presidents, blind and dumb.

One of what "University presidents" bullshit boy?

What exactly is he wrong about?

Your mighty, invincible, peerless army was supposed to have taken Kyiv by Feb 27,2022. Remember that?

Instead, the only country you have managed to defeat is your own.

The only people you have managed to enslave is your own.

Good job!

[Riina]

Given the size, strength and budget of the Orc army vs Ukraine, the orcs are by no means kicking ass, in terms of lives lost, economic destruction and equipment losses, Russia is the one getting pummeled.

You are like one of them University presidents, blind and dumb.

[DramaFree11]

Given the size, strength and budget of the Orc army vs Ukraine, the orcs are by no means kicking ass, in terms of lives lost, economic destruction and equipment losses, Russia is the one getting pummeled.

You are so wrong, but when does the truth matter to a liberal.

[VinDici]

Given the size, strength and budget of the Orc army vs Ukraine, the orcs are by no means kicking ass, in terms of lives lost, economic destruction and equipment losses, Russia is the one getting pummeled.

Correct, I will add everyone in the world has lost from this disaster. What a Mess and yet some want the killing to continue. Throwing money towards Ukraine will only prolong them getting their ass kicked and losing more lives / territory. Great job liberals.

[DramaFree11]

They both lose. The only difference is the degree of loss.

Correct, I will add everyone in the world has lost from this disaster. What a Mess and yet some want the killing to continue. Throwing money towards Ukraine will only prolong them getting their ass kicked and losing more lives / territory. Great job liberals.

[Questner]

To add some content (mostly omissions with some MIC sales pitch):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-war-defenses/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ng-russia-war/

By the way, do you know the difference between a Russian Roulette and an Ukrainian Roulette? (pun intended: in Russian 'roulette' also means any type of ground food product).

The players of the Ukrainian Roulette charge 5 rounds into the cylinder.

[AntonySun1996]

I told everyone on this forum that Russia would win and to write that down.

They both lose. The only difference is the degree of loss.

[Elvis 2008]

Each time the orcs suffer a major setback, the activity in here and other forums by the Kremlin Troll factory goes into overdrive. The more they post hateful posts in Ukrainian forums, the worse it tends to be going for the occupiers.

I'll remind everyone again, that no one is posting trolls in the Russian forum, but here as in the geographical location, Ukraine support is constantly under attack.

Sigh. Orcs huh?

Here is one of the last honest reporters left commenting on the Ukraine war, Matt Taibbi.

According to one measure we spent over $75 billion between January 2022 and July 2023, just a shade under Russia's $81 billion military budget for 2022. In other words, just to keep this one storyline in Ukraine growing, we've had to basically match Russia's entire military budget.

That was never going to continue forever, and everyone knew it, except the handful of insane monsters in politics and media who pretended that the war in Ukraine was not a pure proxy conflict. It was obvious this moment of truth was coming even before the Hamas-Gaza situation changed the political dynamic at home. We knew it from the Vatican-style smoke signals that occasionally emanated from talking heads in the news, like NATO official Stian Jenssen, who sent heads reeling in September by admitting the alliance was no longer imagining a "complete Russian defeat," adding that Ukraine should instead contemplate a deal in which they "give up territory and get NATO membership in return."

Jenssen is chief of staff to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, to whom he had to apologize publicly for suggesting this territory-for-peace trade every sane person knows is the likely ending of this awful bloody farce. Stoltenberg nonetheless was still talking about "winning" even last week, but nobody is going to "win" in this war. There's only bloodshed and a big and fat, but ultimately temporary, feeding frenzy for Lockheed, General Dynamics, Raytheon and the rest of Lloyd Austin's buddies. If our leaders were straight with us at the start of this thing, that's what they'the have asked: "Hey, can we risk nuclear war for a couple of years so taxpayers can fork over a couple hundred extra billion bucks worth of arms dealer bonuses?

The country of course would have said no, like they're saying no now, which is exactly why Biden and company didn't ask. Instead, they lied and lied, but now that the lying doesn't work anymore, they're trying the truth, not realizing it's a little late for that, and insulting as hell to boot. Is there a clue anywhere in the skulls of these people?

[GDreams]

Yeah, it looks like the narrative has finally failed to work. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...russian-troops.

On Wednesday President Joe Biden suggested that if Congress doesn't send Ukraine more money, now, it may 'embolden' Russian President Vladimir Putin to invade a NATO ally, which would precipitate "American troops fighting Russian troops. ".

The threat was not persuasive. Senate Republicans Block Biden Ukraine Aid Despite Warning. Senate Republicans channeled Elon Musk (G. F. why.), blocking Biden's $111 emergency supplemental package that would also include aid for Israel, humanitarian aid for Gaza, and a smattering of border funding.

So your lesson out of this is Americans should not buy insurance because the government will rebuild everything for you?

I hope I can visit Ukraine for the victory of Russia day.

[VinDici]

Each time the orcs suffer a major setback, the activity in here and other forums by the Kremlin Troll factory goes into overdrive. The more they post hateful posts in Ukrainian forums, the worse it tends to be going for the occupiers.

I'll remind everyone again, that no one is posting trolls in the Russian forum, but here as in the geographical location, Ukraine support is constantly under attack.

It's funny how they're grasping at straws hoping to deliver the victory to the Russian dictator and Trump's buddy -- now by denying assistance to the nation fighting against the bloodthirsty tyrant. It's all futile. Helping Ukraine defeat this pure fascist regime is crucial to our own and European security. So much so that this fuckfest too will pass, Ukraine will get the money and the weapons, the Third Rome will choke in the pool of its own blood, and new states (including new Russia) will emerge from this bloody mess. Won't be long, either.

[Xpartan]

It's funny how they're grasping at straws hoping to deliver the victory to the Russian dictator and Trump's buddy -- now by denying assistance to the nation fighting against the bloodthirsty tyrant. It's all futile. Helping Ukraine defeat this pure fascist regime is crucial to our own and European security. So much so that this fuckfest too will pass, Ukraine will get the money and the weapons, the Third Rome will choke in the pool of its own blood, and new states (including new Russia) will emerge from this bloody mess. Won't be long, either.

[DramaFree11]

Drama's finally gotten reinforcements, I see. Good! I can only imagine how lonely it's been for him lately.

I wonder how things are at the Internet Research Agency nowadays -- After Putin blew up their former boss out of the air.

Finally, the truth is coming out. Now maybe you will go away, or go hang out with Paulina and your other whacked out friends. I guess the job with CNN did not work out.

This is one of the dumbest wars of all time, and yes, I was correct and with a few others. Now maybe the liberals will learn a lesson from the massive debacle, but I doubt it.