Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Xpartan]

QUOTE=Riina;2910563 And what difference will this 61 bil package make? Nada, zero, zilch.

QUOTE.

https://www.economist.com/leaders/20...ew-aid-package

America's latest aid will give Ukraine only a temporary reprieve.

"Temporary" is all Ukraine needs.

What the Economist and other intellectuals fail to understand is that Putin can't keep it up indefinitely. He's already spending over 40% of Russia's entire budget on waging his war of choice. America and the West have the money. He, on the other hand, will spend his way into oblivion.

[FilthyBeaver]

Russia has historically been willing to absorb tremendous casualties for political causes. What Mr Putin doesn't understand is this isn't history, this is today. The generation fighting are accustomed to the internet, free thought, and personal freedoms the previous generations (including his) were not. He's only in control because he has a very effective propaganda machine and still has enough following at the lower levels of local government to stiffel any amount of social disorder.

The aid will not end the war. The aid will slow the Russians down tremendously but the end will only come when the will of NATO to prop-up Ukraine fades or when Putin is gone. As an American I'm sad to say the issue has become more political than pragmatic and is being held hostage by a small number of legislators with very big mouths. The fact of the matter is at least 1/3 of the money we spend to support Ukraine is directly funding production of weapons in our massive defense industrial complex so it's basically going right back into our economy in the form of wages and taxes. There isn't an intelligent legislator that would fight that (unfortunately there are plenty of unintelligent legislators).

Having been all over Ukraine and seen the contrast between a very Ukrainian city like Lviv (where you never hear Russian being spoken) and a resort town like Odessa (where Russian is spoken out in the open everywhere, at least before the war). I think I can say they're just as stubborn as the Russians, have proven themselves resourceful and ingenious with what they have, and employ clever tactics. Add that to fact that they are fighting for their very existence I think they have a very good chance of ending this with their heads held high. At a minimum, Russia will never control Ukrainian territory. Partisans will run a gorilla war against them for decades with plenty of help from the CIA using its black budgets that don't get scrutinized like everything else that goes through congress. If Ukraine "looses" Russia will have created Afghanistan for themselves all over again which is sad because Putin was alive for that Russian nightmare and there will be a lot of young hot slavs that get killed which breaks my heart.

This is ISG after all.

QUOTE=Riina;2910563 And what difference will this 61 bil package make? Nada, zero, zilch.

QUOTE.

https://www.economist.com/leaders/20...ew-aid-package

America's latest aid will give Ukraine only a temporary reprieve.

[Jojosun]

QUOTE=Riina;2910563 And what difference will this 61 bil package make? Nada, zero, zilch.

QUOTE.

https://www.economist.com/leaders/20...ew-aid-package

America's latest aid will give Ukraine only a temporary reprieve.

[VinDici]

And what difference will this 61 bil package make? Nada, zero, zilch.

Let's wait and see. That kind of money buys a heck of a lot of things that will absolutely destroy the Russians. Not to mention the ongoing aid that is increasing from the European states. The coming period will be very interesting to see.

[Xpartan]

And what difference will this 61 bil package make? Nada, zero, zilch.

Western hegemony is gone.

You're right.

The Russians are way more effective than American billions could ever be.

Russia drops 21 bombs on itself in huge humiliation for Putin as casualties remain mystery.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...7893266f&ei=13

Keep up a good work!

[Questner]

The following has more truth in it than literally the stupid shit coming out of the mouth of the arm chair enemy:

https://youtu.be/duPBb1ftpsM?si=axquBj_A2cyakpry

[Riina]

So the first part (resumption of the US military aid) has almost come true, much earlier than I anticipated.

And the last 6 months have proved that Ukraine can stand on its own even with Russia's artillery advantage of 6-10 to 1, denying the aggressor any significant gains and making them pay in tens of thousands of dead and crippled Russian solders for every village and township they've managed to "conquer" so far.

In the meantime, Ukraine keeps destroying the Russian Navy and hitting military targets and fuel refineries deep inside Russia reducing aggressor's economic means needed to finance the war.

The age of empires is gone.

And what difference will this 61 bil package make? Nada, zero, zilch.

Western hegemony is gone.

[DramaFree11]

So the first part (resumption of the US military aid) has almost come true, much earlier than I anticipated.

And the last 6 months have proved that Ukraine can stand on its own even with Russia's artillery advantage of 6-10 to 1, denying the aggressor any significant gains and making them pay in tens of thousands of dead and crippled Russian solders for every village and township they've managed to "conquer" so far.

In the meantime, Ukraine keeps destroying the Russian Navy and hitting military targets and fuel refineries deep inside Russia reducing aggressor's economic means needed to finance the war.

The age of empires is gone.

You truly live in a fantasy world.

[Xpartan]

LOL, as a true 'nostradamus' I'll say this.

While the West seems to be tired and in disarray right now, the last quarter of 2024 will break this pattern. Trump and the Reps (the last Putin's hope) will lose miserably, the military aid to Ukraine will resume in spades, and not only will the Third Rome (or Fourth Reich, as some would call it more accurately) eventually return to the borders of 1991 -- it'll start devouring itself from the inside until it finally shrinks into a much smaller (and hopefully more peaceful) normally-sized country.

Till then, Ukraine must hold on, since you're absolutely right -- they don't have another choice.

So the first part (resumption of the US military aid) has almost come true, much earlier than I anticipated.

And the last 6 months have proved that Ukraine can stand on its own even with Russia's artillery advantage of 6-10 to 1, denying the aggressor any significant gains and making them pay in tens of thousands of dead and crippled Russian solders for every village and township they've managed to "conquer" so far.

In the meantime, Ukraine keeps destroying the Russian Navy and hitting military targets and fuel refineries deep inside Russia reducing aggressor's economic means needed to finance the war.

The age of empires is gone.

[DramaFree11]

I prefer the evidence of my own experiences. When I have been there, and I was there recently, the people were pleasant as always, and the girls were gorgeous everywhere I turned.

In the middle of a war, people are pleasant and happy. You are truly living in Fantasy world. Hot girls everywhere, you are in serious denial.

[VinDici]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4EMXvCF8Ns

I just watched this guys video and felt sick. He made a horrible joke to Ukrainians and doesn't know it.

I prefer the evidence of my own experiences. When I have been there, and I was there recently, the people were pleasant as always, and the girls were gorgeous everywhere I turned.

[Riina]

Totally agree with this, service is always better on their own territory, and in Kyiv they are just ridiculously hot. It's a pleasure just walking around the city, so many beautiful women everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4EMXvCF8Ns

I just watched this guys video and felt sick. He made a horrible joke to Ukrainians and doesn't know it.

[VinDici]

But buying from the source / where they're made is really appealing. I swear there's a supermodel on every corner in Kyiv. Too bad the putz to the east is denying us our God given right to seek it out.

Totally agree with this, service is always better on their own territory, and in Kyiv they are just ridiculously hot. It's a pleasure just walking around the city, so many beautiful women everywhere.

[FilthyBeaver]

But buying from the source / where they're made is really appealing. I swear there's a supermodel on every corner in Kyiv. Too bad the putz to the east is denying us our God given right to seek it out.

I'd go even further and wonder why at all fly to a country at war for pussy. Aren't Slavic girls everywhere nowadays including Germany (with an added bonus of zero air raid sirens at night)?

[DramaFree11]

I'd go even further and wonder why at all fly to a country at war for pussy. Aren't Slavic girls everywhere nowadays including Germany (with an added bonus of zero air raid sirens at night)?

Yep, makes zero sense. I have never understood the delusion and fantasy world, that the Internet has created about Ukraine. It's been bad for over 10 years now. It was bad before the war, but the Internet portrays a different world.

The hot girls have been gone for years.