Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Xpartan]

It's either sheer idiocy or treachery to even presume that Russians would be satisfied with the lands they've already conquered. Whatever peace deal the French and Italians are trying to push on Ukraine won't be worth the ink or the paper.

The second assumption made by those advocating off-ramps is that Russia, even if it were to begin negotiating, would stick to the agreements it signed. Even an ordinary cease-fire has to involve concessions on both sides, and anything more substantive would require a longer list of pledges and promises. But brazen dishonesty is now a normal part of Russian foreign policy as well as domestic propaganda.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...russia/629940/

Ukrainians have to keep fighting not because it's their choice, but because they have no choice. Some western countries must stop smoking whatever they're smoking and give them every weapon in the world they need. Because the West doesn't have a choice either. Carthage must be, well, neutralized.

"The borders of Russia do not end anywhere" - Putin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou8mI_ce80s

[Xpartan]

Fascinating letter which recognizes (and criticizes) the failure of the "special operation" and calls for full mobilization and total war.

https://m-kalashnikov.livejournal.com/4243623.html

Here's the opening section:

"We, veterans of the Armed Forces and special services of Russia, united in the All-Russian Officers' Assembly, together with the majority of our people, enthusiastically supported the decision of the President of the Russian Federation and Supreme Commander-in-Chief V. V. Putin on the conduct of a special military operation for the armed protection of the inhabitants of the DPR and LPR, the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. At the same time, carefully analyzing the course of almost three months of hostilities, we came to the conclusion that the special military operation that began on February 24, unfortunately, ended in failure: after a month of hostilities, Russian troops retreated from the captured bridgeheads near Kyiv, left the liberated territories in Sumy and Chernihiv regions in the north and Mykolaiv region in the south of the so-called Ukraine. All this happened under the pretext of displaying the "good will" of the President of the Russian Federation. But the question naturally arose in our minds: whose evil will was carried out by citizen V. Putin, giving the troops a humiliating order to retreat".

And there's much more. This letter is an eye-opening look at the delusion, paranoia, and warped world-view that underpin Russian support for this war, and should be required reading for anyone who believes there's a rational basis for negotiations, or common ground of any kind. In fact, these war-hawk extremists are those who, if Putin ends up getting deposed or sidelined, will most likely be responsible. And then one of their leaders will be calling the shots, both figuratively and literally.

Note: The letter is in Russian so you'll need to use your preferred translation method. Opening the link with the Chrome browser is one easy way, as the translation prompt should open automatically.

enthusiastically supported the decision of the President of the Russian Federation and Supreme Commander-in-Chief V. V. Putin on the conduct of a special military operation for the armed protection of the inhabitants of the DPR and LPR, the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.

A bunch of scumbags who love killing Ukrainians, but protest that's it's less efficient than they'd like to see. In all seriousness, there is nothing eye-opening about this letter. It's completely in line with the views of Girkin-Strelkov, the original "paramilitary" commander in Donbass and former FSB operative. This letter has all the markings of the under-the-rug struggle between Siloviki.

[PedroMorales]

The Iranian Navy (IRGC) have captured two Greek tankers in the Persian Gulf in retaliation for Greek and US pirates stealing an Iranian tanker. The 5th Paper Tiger navy is looking into it. Tick tock. Bye bye to your empire of evil.

[Paulie97]

It's a good read and gives some insight into dysfunctions within the Russian govt, and the prevailing mentality in Moscow, from the perspective of a career officer in the Foreign Ministry.

Here's the article on the original website. It's paywalled but you should see a link at the bottom that allows you to view one article for free. If you don't see that link, try clearing cache and cookies and give it another go:

https://puck.news/ukraine-must-win-a...tor-tells-all/

If that doesn't work for you, here's an archived version:

https://archive.ph/Vh8hb

His overall conclusion: Ukraine must win!

From the interview.

"Today, Henry Kissinger said that Ukraine should find a compromise with Russia and cede some of its territory. What do you think of that? Is it time to negotiate a ceasefire?

'No way. You can't. You just can't make peace now. If you do, it will be seen as a Russian victory. Russia will spend a couple years scraping together some resources and then it will do this again. This won't teach them anything. Only a total and clear defeat that is obvious to everyone will teach them. That's why Putin is so scared of losing, that's why the nuclear threat keeps coming up, because it's his last trump card. That's why I think it's so important to make clear to these people who think, we can hit America or Poland with a nuclear weapon and nothing will happen to us, to show them that, yes, it will. As soon as your finger starts creeping toward the nuclear button, something will happen. That's the only way.'"

[Paulie97]

Please don't confuse my responses to him as any kind of attempt to convince or persuade, as I'm well aware that he exists in a delusional bubble of his own creation.

Most of the time my responses are to poke fun at him, or show how Putin is a ridicule-worthy "Emperor Who Has No Clothes," or simply to ensure that his bile-filled posts don't exist in a vacuum. And, when I talk about Pedrito, I include his clone (Golfito), as well.

And I'm fine with being the "new mark" for one, or both, as I regularly give much better than they can dish out. I must confess, it is an enjoyable experience when I wipe the debate-floor with them.

Hope that clarifies things.

I'm enjoying your posts.

[Jmsuttr]

One of the other Yanks has just posted a link to the Atlantic, not worth reading as it is NATO BS for morons.

I quickly glanced at the Philippines thread / Guys doing their Dear Diary stuff, low information to noise ratio but the mod is necessarily happy with that. He (don't know his pronouns for sure but) also has to deal with the strange issue of photos on the Indian board but that is his call and is of no importance to me. His game, his football.

Let's get on to your bs, which resembles that on transsexuals etc on the Medellin Stupid Shit board. Most posts like yours are not worth reading as they contain no worthwhile information.

You assume if you spew shit on and on, it makes it worth reading. It doesn't. I am on no meds as I like to minimize all shit into my body. That is why I am not vaccinated (sic).

The key to trailer trash like you in in the American women / politics threads. They could be interesting and informative but trailer trash just swamp them.

As regards Ukraine, Russia is winning hands down in the East. The USA is happy to fight to the last Ukrainian and America's NATO puppets seem also happy, at least for now.

Not sure where you get your pseudo-facts about the progress of the war but, judging from your past posts, you either get them from kool-aid drinking Russia propagandists or just pull them out of your ass. Or maybe you consult with the transsexuals from Medellin? Goodness knows, you sure love to talk about them a lot (LOL)!

In stark contrast, I studiously avoid propaganda from either side, though it's fair to note that Ukrainian official statements have been more measured while those from the Kremlin resemble the ramblings of Baghdad Bob!

But here's an independent analysis of how things are going, and it's generally updated daily:

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-may-26

One good feature of this site is that you can compare daily summaries and maps to get a sense of either side's progress and setbacks. Here's the most recent entry:

"May 26,6:30 pm ET.

Russian forces have made steady, incremental gains in heavy fighting in eastern Ukraine in the past several days, though Ukrainian defenses remain effective overall. Deputy Ukrainian Defense Minister Hanna Malyar stated that the fighting is currently at its "maximum intensity" compared to previous Russian assaults and will likely continue to escalate. (1) Spokesperson for the Ukrainian Defense Ministry Oleksandr Motuzyanyk characterized Russian gains as "temporary success" and stated that Ukrainian forces are using a maneuver defense to put pressure on Russian advances in key areas. (2) Russian forces have now taken control of over 95% of Luhansk Oblast and will likely continue efforts to complete the capture of Severodonetsk in the coming days. (3) Russian forces have made several gains in the past week, but their offensive operations remain slow. Russian forces are heavily degraded and will struggle to replace further losses.

Key Takeaways.

Russian forces unsuccessfully attempted to advance southeast of Izyum near the Kharkiv-Donetsk Oblast border.

Russian forces continued steady advances around Severodonetsk and likely seek to completely encircle the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk area in the coming days.

Russian forces continued to make persistent advances south and west of Popasna toward Bakhmut, but the Russian pace of advance will likely slow as they approach the town itself.

Russian forces in occupied areas of the Southern Axis are reportedly preparing a "third line of defense" to consolidate long-term control over the region and in preparation to repel likely future Ukrainian counteroffensives".

Anyone trying to predict the future, especially in a wartime situation, is a certifiable imbecile, and you certainly fit that profile. I'm happy to monitor the progress of actual events, which tend to speak for themselves. And at least one thing is crystal clear, the Russian army controls much less territory now than they did at the beginning of the invasion. Funny how the Kremlin spin doctors try to portray a humiliating retreat as something else. But their efforts fell flat and poor LilliPutin had nothing he could report in his "Victory" Day speech.

BTW, as far as all your anti-American caterwauling is concerned, to paraphrase the immortal phrase from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, I (and all Americans) fart in your general direction! And that's probably more effort than your pathetic, self-loathing, existence deserves.

P.S. Today's Russians are far removed from those who fought in WW-II. So it remains to be seen how much, if any, belt-leather chewing they're willing to endure. Also, the USSR would have totally collapsed before Hitler's army had it not been for the HUGE amount of Lend-Lease support from (wait for it) America! Do a web search for yourself, I dare you.

[PedroMorales]

Meaningless bla bla ROTFL!

One of the other Yanks has just posted a link to the Atlantic, not worth reading as it is NATO BS for morons.

I quickly glanced at the Philippines thread / Guys doing their Dear Diary stuff, low information to noise ratio but the mod is necessarily happy with that. He (don't know his pronouns for sure but) also has to deal with the strange issue of photos on the Indian board but that is his call and is of no importance to me. His game, his football.

Let's get on to your bs, which resembles that on transsexuals etc on the Medellin Stupid Shit board. Most posts like yours are not worth reading as they contain no worthwhile information.

You assume if you spew shit on and on, it makes it worth reading. It doesn't. I am on no meds as I like to minimize all shit into my body. That is why I am not vaccinated (sic).

The key to trailer trash like you in in the American women / politics threads. They could be interesting and informative but trailer trash just swamp them.

As regards Ukraine, Russia is winning hands down in the East. The USA is happy to fight to the last Ukrainian and America's NATO puppets seem also happy, at least for now.

Russia will win the east and Nato will make another corrupt Kosovo of the West (Someone is making a fortune with all that US aid). Closer to America's mid terms and hard times this winter in Europe, we might get, if not our omelette, at least our cracked eggs.

Zhukov got to Berlin, Tsar Alexander to Paris. Let's see what happens when hard times hit. You keep on with hijacking ships, shooting up schools and eating hamburgers. Russians don't pull the belt in, They eat the belt.

[Jojosun]

How to deal with Russia and Ukraine by Kissinger and Soros.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/dueling...ce-11653509537

A reminder of the Churchilian way of dealing with such situations "When Winston Churchill, a man who demonstrated both Sorosian and Kissingerian characteristics through his long career, was asked about postwar planning in 1942, he replied with words Western leaders should remember today. "I hope these speculative studies will be entrusted mainly to those on whose hands time hangs heavy, and that we shall not overlook Mrs. Glasse's Cookery Book recipe for jugged hare—'First catch your hare.'"

[Golfinho]

'The War Won't End Until Putin Loses'.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...russia/629940/

The Atlantic Magazine. The mouthpiece of Liberal Zionism. No greater source for your echo chamber than Jeffrey Goldberg. Now, go bleat-bleat anti-seemite.

[Paulie97]

'The War Won't End Until Putin Loses'.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...russia/629940/

[Jmsuttr]

Check out your posts in Medellin shit. Not much gets much shitier than that. You have nothing to contribute. You actually clog up threads and are a main reason the mod uses these threads as garbage dumps.

He does that to increase the information to noise ratio on the others. Golfito obviously limits his posts for the same reason.

You Americans do not belong in Europe or an where else, as your most recent school shooting shows. You are sick fucks.

Your (collective) posts here show that. God knows why Europe is allowing American destroy it but that is where we are.

Not sure what you're talking about, as I have no posts in any Medellin forum. Maybe your rabies hallucinations have now extended to ISG?

Posting a plethora of threads that contribute nothing other than one's own opinion, backed up by zero links to articles, or other references, would certainly leave one open to criticism about clogging up threads. That's actually a pretty apt description of your posting style.

In stark contrast, I've gone out of my way to find and post items that provide information that's not always found in general media sources. The most recent examples include the extended interview of Bondarev and the letter to Putin from retired Russian officers. Whether or not you agree with what I've posted is irrelevant and immaterial. The plain truth of the matter is that I've gone out of my way to add to the level of facts and evidence in this forum.

You, OTOH, are a one-note nanny-goat bleating out incessant anti-Americanism. You contribute nothing but bile, and that seems to be your overarching modus operandi. And it's hilarious how, as you raise your blood pressure to aneurysm levels, Americans just laugh at you and continue to move onward and upward. America is used to the jealousy of pipsqueaks, and the pipsqueaks should know that by now.

Just think, with the growth of NATO and clamoring demand for US-led NATO troops to be stationed in new European locales, you might just be lucky enough to have a NATO base as your neighbor. Wouldn't that be something? ROTFL!

[PedroMorales]

I thought some of you might like the attached poem which summarises American culture (sic).

I see the USA has today stolen an Iranian oil tanker. Tick tock, says the clock.

[PedroMorales]

Please don't confuse my responses to him as any kind of attempt to convince or persuade, as I'm well aware that he exists in a delusional bubble of his own creation.

Most of the time my responses are to poke fun at him, or show how Putin is a ridicule-worthy "Emperor Who Has No Clothes," or simply to ensure that his bile-filled posts don't exist in a vacuum. And, when I talk about Pedrito, I include his clone (Golfito), as well..

Check out your posts in Medellin shit. Not much gets much shitier than that. You have nothing to contribute. You actually clog up threads and are a main reason the mod uses these threads as garbage dumps.

He does that to increase the information to noise ratio on the others. Golfito obviously limits his posts for the same reason.

You Americans do not belong in Europe or an where else, as your most recent school shooting shows. You are sick fucks.

Your (collective) posts here show that. God knows why Europe is allowing American destroy it but that is where we are.

[Jmsuttr]

This certainly doesn't surprise anyone. Measuring Russian support for the war certainly depends on who you ask.

Given the cataclysmic events of the early 90's, one might expect older Russians to be more supportive of Russian intervention in the Ukraine. Younger Russians generally don't give a fuck.

He discusses how the Kremlin-dwellers are freaked out about the views and mindset of the younger generation.

In an environment that's under near-total govt control, you look for signals wherever you can find them. This is one of those, IMO, as are the spate of recent fires and "accidents" across Russia. Sabotage, especially something like fire-bombing a conscription office, is more of a younger person's cup of chai, although not always so.

It'll be interesting to see if there's any govt response to the concert, whether public or behind the scenes. Either way, I'll be watching for the next set of signaling events from the younger crowd.

[Jmsuttr]

It's a good read and gives some insight into dysfunctions within the Russian govt, and the prevailing mentality in Moscow, from the perspective of a career officer in the Foreign Ministry.

Here's the article on the original website. It's paywalled but you should see a link at the bottom that allows you to view one article for free. If you don't see that link, try clearing cache and cookies and give it another go:

https://puck.news/ukraine-must-win-a...tor-tells-all/

If that doesn't work for you, here's an archived version:

https://archive.ph/Vh8hb

His overall conclusion: Ukraine must win!