Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Paulie97]

It's a good read and gives some insight into dysfunctions within the Russian govt, and the prevailing mentality in Moscow, from the perspective of a career officer in the Foreign Ministry.

Here's the article on the original website. It's paywalled but you should see a link at the bottom that allows you to view one article for free. If you don't see that link, try clearing cache and cookies and give it another go:

https://puck.news/ukraine-must-win-a...tor-tells-all/

If that doesn't work for you, here's an archived version:

https://archive.ph/Vh8hb

His overall conclusion: Ukraine must win!

From the interview.

"Today, Henry Kissinger said that Ukraine should find a compromise with Russia and cede some of its territory. What do you think of that? Is it time to negotiate a ceasefire?

'No way. You can't. You just can't make peace now. If you do, it will be seen as a Russian victory. Russia will spend a couple years scraping together some resources and then it will do this again. This won't teach them anything. Only a total and clear defeat that is obvious to everyone will teach them. That's why Putin is so scared of losing, that's why the nuclear threat keeps coming up, because it's his last trump card. That's why I think it's so important to make clear to these people who think, we can hit America or Poland with a nuclear weapon and nothing will happen to us, to show them that, yes, it will. As soon as your finger starts creeping toward the nuclear button, something will happen. That's the only way.'"

[Paulie97]

Please don't confuse my responses to him as any kind of attempt to convince or persuade, as I'm well aware that he exists in a delusional bubble of his own creation.

Most of the time my responses are to poke fun at him, or show how Putin is a ridicule-worthy "Emperor Who Has No Clothes," or simply to ensure that his bile-filled posts don't exist in a vacuum. And, when I talk about Pedrito, I include his clone (Golfito), as well.

And I'm fine with being the "new mark" for one, or both, as I regularly give much better than they can dish out. I must confess, it is an enjoyable experience when I wipe the debate-floor with them.

Hope that clarifies things.

I'm enjoying your posts.

[Jmsuttr]

One of the other Yanks has just posted a link to the Atlantic, not worth reading as it is NATO BS for morons.

I quickly glanced at the Philippines thread / Guys doing their Dear Diary stuff, low information to noise ratio but the mod is necessarily happy with that. He (don't know his pronouns for sure but) also has to deal with the strange issue of photos on the Indian board but that is his call and is of no importance to me. His game, his football.

Let's get on to your bs, which resembles that on transsexuals etc on the Medellin Stupid Shit board. Most posts like yours are not worth reading as they contain no worthwhile information.

You assume if you spew shit on and on, it makes it worth reading. It doesn't. I am on no meds as I like to minimize all shit into my body. That is why I am not vaccinated (sic).

The key to trailer trash like you in in the American women / politics threads. They could be interesting and informative but trailer trash just swamp them.

As regards Ukraine, Russia is winning hands down in the East. The USA is happy to fight to the last Ukrainian and America's NATO puppets seem also happy, at least for now.

Not sure where you get your pseudo-facts about the progress of the war but, judging from your past posts, you either get them from kool-aid drinking Russia propagandists or just pull them out of your ass. Or maybe you consult with the transsexuals from Medellin? Goodness knows, you sure love to talk about them a lot (LOL)!

In stark contrast, I studiously avoid propaganda from either side, though it's fair to note that Ukrainian official statements have been more measured while those from the Kremlin resemble the ramblings of Baghdad Bob!

But here's an independent analysis of how things are going, and it's generally updated daily:

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-may-26

One good feature of this site is that you can compare daily summaries and maps to get a sense of either side's progress and setbacks. Here's the most recent entry:

"May 26,6:30 pm ET.

Russian forces have made steady, incremental gains in heavy fighting in eastern Ukraine in the past several days, though Ukrainian defenses remain effective overall. Deputy Ukrainian Defense Minister Hanna Malyar stated that the fighting is currently at its "maximum intensity" compared to previous Russian assaults and will likely continue to escalate. (1) Spokesperson for the Ukrainian Defense Ministry Oleksandr Motuzyanyk characterized Russian gains as "temporary success" and stated that Ukrainian forces are using a maneuver defense to put pressure on Russian advances in key areas. (2) Russian forces have now taken control of over 95% of Luhansk Oblast and will likely continue efforts to complete the capture of Severodonetsk in the coming days. (3) Russian forces have made several gains in the past week, but their offensive operations remain slow. Russian forces are heavily degraded and will struggle to replace further losses.

Key Takeaways.

Russian forces unsuccessfully attempted to advance southeast of Izyum near the Kharkiv-Donetsk Oblast border.

Russian forces continued steady advances around Severodonetsk and likely seek to completely encircle the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk area in the coming days.

Russian forces continued to make persistent advances south and west of Popasna toward Bakhmut, but the Russian pace of advance will likely slow as they approach the town itself.

Russian forces in occupied areas of the Southern Axis are reportedly preparing a "third line of defense" to consolidate long-term control over the region and in preparation to repel likely future Ukrainian counteroffensives".

Anyone trying to predict the future, especially in a wartime situation, is a certifiable imbecile, and you certainly fit that profile. I'm happy to monitor the progress of actual events, which tend to speak for themselves. And at least one thing is crystal clear, the Russian army controls much less territory now than they did at the beginning of the invasion. Funny how the Kremlin spin doctors try to portray a humiliating retreat as something else. But their efforts fell flat and poor LilliPutin had nothing he could report in his "Victory" Day speech.

BTW, as far as all your anti-American caterwauling is concerned, to paraphrase the immortal phrase from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, I (and all Americans) fart in your general direction! And that's probably more effort than your pathetic, self-loathing, existence deserves.

P.S. Today's Russians are far removed from those who fought in WW-II. So it remains to be seen how much, if any, belt-leather chewing they're willing to endure. Also, the USSR would have totally collapsed before Hitler's army had it not been for the HUGE amount of Lend-Lease support from (wait for it) America! Do a web search for yourself, I dare you.

[PedroMorales]

Meaningless bla bla ROTFL!

One of the other Yanks has just posted a link to the Atlantic, not worth reading as it is NATO BS for morons.

I quickly glanced at the Philippines thread / Guys doing their Dear Diary stuff, low information to noise ratio but the mod is necessarily happy with that. He (don't know his pronouns for sure but) also has to deal with the strange issue of photos on the Indian board but that is his call and is of no importance to me. His game, his football.

Let's get on to your bs, which resembles that on transsexuals etc on the Medellin Stupid Shit board. Most posts like yours are not worth reading as they contain no worthwhile information.

You assume if you spew shit on and on, it makes it worth reading. It doesn't. I am on no meds as I like to minimize all shit into my body. That is why I am not vaccinated (sic).

The key to trailer trash like you in in the American women / politics threads. They could be interesting and informative but trailer trash just swamp them.

As regards Ukraine, Russia is winning hands down in the East. The USA is happy to fight to the last Ukrainian and America's NATO puppets seem also happy, at least for now.

Russia will win the east and Nato will make another corrupt Kosovo of the West (Someone is making a fortune with all that US aid). Closer to America's mid terms and hard times this winter in Europe, we might get, if not our omelette, at least our cracked eggs.

Zhukov got to Berlin, Tsar Alexander to Paris. Let's see what happens when hard times hit. You keep on with hijacking ships, shooting up schools and eating hamburgers. Russians don't pull the belt in, They eat the belt.

[Jojosun]

How to deal with Russia and Ukraine by Kissinger and Soros.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/dueling...ce-11653509537

A reminder of the Churchilian way of dealing with such situations "When Winston Churchill, a man who demonstrated both Sorosian and Kissingerian characteristics through his long career, was asked about postwar planning in 1942, he replied with words Western leaders should remember today. "I hope these speculative studies will be entrusted mainly to those on whose hands time hangs heavy, and that we shall not overlook Mrs. Glasse's Cookery Book recipe for jugged hare—'First catch your hare.'"

[Golfinho]

'The War Won't End Until Putin Loses'.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...russia/629940/

The Atlantic Magazine. The mouthpiece of Liberal Zionism. No greater source for your echo chamber than Jeffrey Goldberg. Now, go bleat-bleat anti-seemite.

[Paulie97]

'The War Won't End Until Putin Loses'.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...russia/629940/

[Jmsuttr]

Check out your posts in Medellin shit. Not much gets much shitier than that. You have nothing to contribute. You actually clog up threads and are a main reason the mod uses these threads as garbage dumps.

He does that to increase the information to noise ratio on the others. Golfito obviously limits his posts for the same reason.

You Americans do not belong in Europe or an where else, as your most recent school shooting shows. You are sick fucks.

Your (collective) posts here show that. God knows why Europe is allowing American destroy it but that is where we are.

Not sure what you're talking about, as I have no posts in any Medellin forum. Maybe your rabies hallucinations have now extended to ISG?

Posting a plethora of threads that contribute nothing other than one's own opinion, backed up by zero links to articles, or other references, would certainly leave one open to criticism about clogging up threads. That's actually a pretty apt description of your posting style.

In stark contrast, I've gone out of my way to find and post items that provide information that's not always found in general media sources. The most recent examples include the extended interview of Bondarev and the letter to Putin from retired Russian officers. Whether or not you agree with what I've posted is irrelevant and immaterial. The plain truth of the matter is that I've gone out of my way to add to the level of facts and evidence in this forum.

You, OTOH, are a one-note nanny-goat bleating out incessant anti-Americanism. You contribute nothing but bile, and that seems to be your overarching modus operandi. And it's hilarious how, as you raise your blood pressure to aneurysm levels, Americans just laugh at you and continue to move onward and upward. America is used to the jealousy of pipsqueaks, and the pipsqueaks should know that by now.

Just think, with the growth of NATO and clamoring demand for US-led NATO troops to be stationed in new European locales, you might just be lucky enough to have a NATO base as your neighbor. Wouldn't that be something? ROTFL!

[PedroMorales]

I thought some of you might like the attached poem which summarises American culture (sic).

I see the USA has today stolen an Iranian oil tanker. Tick tock, says the clock.

[PedroMorales]

Please don't confuse my responses to him as any kind of attempt to convince or persuade, as I'm well aware that he exists in a delusional bubble of his own creation.

Most of the time my responses are to poke fun at him, or show how Putin is a ridicule-worthy "Emperor Who Has No Clothes," or simply to ensure that his bile-filled posts don't exist in a vacuum. And, when I talk about Pedrito, I include his clone (Golfito), as well..

Check out your posts in Medellin shit. Not much gets much shitier than that. You have nothing to contribute. You actually clog up threads and are a main reason the mod uses these threads as garbage dumps.

He does that to increase the information to noise ratio on the others. Golfito obviously limits his posts for the same reason.

You Americans do not belong in Europe or an where else, as your most recent school shooting shows. You are sick fucks.

Your (collective) posts here show that. God knows why Europe is allowing American destroy it but that is where we are.

[Jmsuttr]

This certainly doesn't surprise anyone. Measuring Russian support for the war certainly depends on who you ask.

Given the cataclysmic events of the early 90's, one might expect older Russians to be more supportive of Russian intervention in the Ukraine. Younger Russians generally don't give a fuck.

He discusses how the Kremlin-dwellers are freaked out about the views and mindset of the younger generation.

In an environment that's under near-total govt control, you look for signals wherever you can find them. This is one of those, IMO, as are the spate of recent fires and "accidents" across Russia. Sabotage, especially something like fire-bombing a conscription office, is more of a younger person's cup of chai, although not always so.

It'll be interesting to see if there's any govt response to the concert, whether public or behind the scenes. Either way, I'll be watching for the next set of signaling events from the younger crowd.

[Jmsuttr]

It's a good read and gives some insight into dysfunctions within the Russian govt, and the prevailing mentality in Moscow, from the perspective of a career officer in the Foreign Ministry.

Here's the article on the original website. It's paywalled but you should see a link at the bottom that allows you to view one article for free. If you don't see that link, try clearing cache and cookies and give it another go:

https://puck.news/ukraine-must-win-a...tor-tells-all/

If that doesn't work for you, here's an archived version:

https://archive.ph/Vh8hb

His overall conclusion: Ukraine must win!

[Jmsuttr]

You know I don't really get what any of that has to do with anything. If you've read one of Pedro's posts you've read them all. Yes he believes all of Russia's state propaganda. Yes he hates America, Jews, and blacks. He's elderly as he tells us with health problems and is angry as hell. As the idiom so tells us, there's nothing to see here. At least nothing new or the least bit sophisticated or creative. Even all the insults are juvenile and repetitive. Yawns. You are his new mark I guess as everyone pretty much quit paying attention to him in American politics, and he quit showing up in the Colombia forum. He of course has never been there.

Please don't confuse my responses to him as any kind of attempt to convince or persuade, as I'm well aware that he exists in a delusional bubble of his own creation.

Most of the time my responses are to poke fun at him, or show how Putin is a ridicule-worthy "Emperor Who Has No Clothes," or simply to ensure that his bile-filled posts don't exist in a vacuum. And, when I talk about Pedrito, I include his clone (Golfito), as well.

And I'm fine with being the "new mark" for one, or both, as I regularly give much better than they can dish out. I must confess, it is an enjoyable experience when I wipe the debate-floor with them.

Hope that clarifies things.

[Jmsuttr]

You are a bit sequestered here though the word is beginning to get out. Drop in on the American Politics thread in the Opinions section or Stupid Shit in Medellin under Colombia. It's a swarm of logical fallacies, the whole spectrum from straw men to proof by repetition, non-sequiturs to ad hominems and tu quoque, you name it. You'll also get a steady diet of the rightwingnut fake news of the day from youtubes, blogs, and Russian state media. A few of the guys you go at here are found there plus many more.

What seems to be going on over there, although I'm no expert, is a mutual masturbation society in which each participant "gets off" by scoring (usually in their own minds) meaningless points about issues that will never be settled and will always be subject to debate.

Left vs Right, Democrat vs Republican, and Progressive vs Conservative are division lines that have existed for a long time, and will continue to do so. I have zero interest in participating in that kind of environment.

In contrast, even though this is only a "Stupid Shit" thread on an anonymous fuckboard, there are genuine issues being discussed, many of them with important implications for people currently in Ukraine or Russia, planning to travel to either of those countries, or affected by ancillary issues.

I have no great illusions about who reads this forum. I'm well aware it caters to mongers. BUT, those mongers have regular lives, with regular families and friends, so if I'm able to find and post info they haven't seen elsewhere, I view that as a positive thing. And I similarly see it as a positive if I'm able to debunk misleading or propagandistic posts. What I care about is not leaving a vacuum that gets filled with BS by bottom-feeders like the Pedrito-Golfito twins.

And it also helps that I personally care about both countries, having had many friends and lovers (including one fiancee) from Russia and Ukraine. And I'm currently dealing with a close Ukrainian friend, from a pro-Russian area, who is struggling with divided loyalties.

In other words, if not for the real-world issues at stake, and the connections (real or potential) to actual people, I wouldn't be here. As for those other forums, and debate (or posting) for its own sake, I'm simply not interested.

[Paulie97]

Certainly an eye-opening thread here, I would say. We have at least one member / comrade / cheerleader who seems to have benefited (or should I say suffered) from Soviet education and propaganda.

It's kind of bizarre hearing the neo-Marxist perspective recited to attack America and the West. Putin and friends are so far removed from basic Marxist tenets on the distribution of wealth and capital. Basically, Russia over the last thirty years has stripped away the veneer of societal good from the Soviet days and revealed the brutal murderers and thugs.

If you speak of Pedro then I think you way overestimate him. He's a garden variety online attention seeker. It started with deriding Americans for inventing and eating cheeseburgers while he talked of wanting to beat them up as he felt they were too loud in the Euro brothels. Since the war started it's Putin promotion, and the "education" consists of online blogs and new sources made for morons, or at best, the masses. Who knows where he went to school but likely didn't go far. If you were speaking of someone else then scratch all that.