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05-22-22 13:49 #650
Posts: 1056Stick to Reddit, Monkeypox
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
On a positive note, Russia is winning hands down.
On the American simpletons calling me Comrade to appear witty, the Communists are Russia's main opposition party; they are not in government but you go ahead to boil things down to your level.
As regards rebuttals, You haven't rebutted, much as you may be fond of butts. That is because I am not engaging with you because you are nothing to engage with.
You'll be happy to hear I am getting better, another few days to be safe. Then I'll be fighting fit again, as much as age allows me. I've caught up on my reading (no Reddit or 4 chan for me) and I hoped to be back in the saddle, but not with Ukrainians, soon. But then the Yanks spread monkeypox, on which I have my theories.
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05-22-22 04:12 #649
Posts: 516How is slavery a US-centric issue?
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
https://www.freetheslaves.net/slaver...ry-in-history/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
Anyone not looking at history through anti-American goggles should have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge the following:
- Slavery dates back thousands of years and was a near-universal practice.
- Slavery was a central feature of both the Greek and Roman empires. And those periods gave birth to many of the legal and cultural underpinnings of Western civilization.
- Slavery was facilitated and introduced to the New World by the Portuguese and Spanish.
-By some estimates, 90% of African slaves were sold into bondage by other Africans. And that occurrence was an essential prerequisite of the Atlantic slave trade.
https://alphahistory.com/russianrevo...ion-in-russia/
Russia, which is a country relevant to the discussions in this forum, didn't emancipate its serfs until 1861 (the same year the US Civil War began). And here's what that "freedom" looked like:
"Alexander II finally acted in 1861, signing a decree that ruled a line through serfdom. A process of land redistribution was commenced but the detail was left in the hands of corrupt bureaucrats and, in some cases, the land-owners themselves.
As a consequence, the reallocation of Russian land was hardly fair. Russia's serfs became free peasants but they were given a stark choice: either leave their land or commit to a 49-year state mortgage. They had, in effect, traded one form of bondage for anothe."
Moving into the 20th century, Nazi Germany made extensive use of forced labor from 1939 to 1945. "Arbeit macht frei," right? How quickly people forget.
Saudi Arabia and Yemen didn't ban slavery until 1962 and the Islamic Conference didn't renounce the practice until 1990. Oh yes, and there are many who would argue that China is currently the worst offender when it comes to forced labor in the modern world.
So yeah, it's pretty funny how, to so many, slavery is primarily a US-centric issue. Give me an effin' break!
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05-22-22 03:43 #648
Posts: 1680Yep
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
And there were never any promises made not to enlarge NATO into Eastern Europe. Russia only questioned expansion as it would relate to troop deployments in the former GDR, as Gorbachev later confirmed in no uncertain terms. Plus these discussions were within the context of the old USSR where the Warsaw Pact was still in force. Eastern Euro countries tasted freedom and requested integration. Knowing Russia too well they asked for protection. It's impossible to have confidence in the analysis of anyone that ignores the agencies of these countries.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...achev-says-no/
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05-22-22 00:32 #647
Posts: 1956That's a bit harsh.
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
For the music itself though, I don't think Tchaikovsky's or Rachmaninov's works were actually 'copied' from the West. Unlike the cars, planes and, oh yeah, the nukes.
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05-22-22 00:30 #646
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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05-21-22 21:00 #645
Posts: 516He's the perfect Wile E. Coyote to my Roadrunner!
Originally Posted by VinDici [View Original Post]
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/new/
With over 350 K members, it's a dumping ground of pro- and anti-Ukraine posts, and more than a few trolls. But, when you check it regularly, some contributors stand out and the authors and articles they reference prove worthy of following. Then, especially on the Twitter platform, you can further explore the subsidiary level of authors and articles cited. It's a bit like word of mouth, but the key is to separate the wheat from the chaff at the very beginning such that you're not wasting your time reading BS or propaganda. Here are a few I think are worth a look:
https://mobile.twitter.com/kamilkazani
https://mobile.twitter.com/WarintheFuture
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien
There are others, of course, but I visit these on a regular basis and, if they cite an author or article they think worthwhile, I'll usually make the time to check it out.
P.S. Poor Pedro M! Just like the Coyote, always trying to catch the Roadrunner but always falling short. And, since it's a purely American reference, he probably won't recognize it and will have to look it up. That makes it even funnier, don't you think?
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05-21-22 20:27 #644
Posts: 516Or maybe it originated in Wuhan?
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
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05-21-22 20:19 #643
Posts: 516Good response to Chomsky and like-minded pro-Russians
https://blogs.berkeley.edu/2022/05/1...a-ukraine-war/
See the Open Letter for full details, but here are the main points, or patterns, addressed:
Pattern #1: Denying Ukraine's sovereign integrity.
Pattern #2: Treating Ukraine as an American pawn on a geo-political chessboard.
Pattern #3. Suggesting that Russia was threatened by NATO.
Pattern #4. Stating that the USA Isn't any better than Russia.
Pattern #5. Whitewashing Putin's goals for invading Ukraine.
Pattern #6. Assuming that Putin is interested in a diplomatic solution.
Pattern #7. Advocating that yielding to Russian demands is the way to avert the nuclear war.
A thoughtful, respectful, and civil discussion and rebuttal. Something that's sadly lacking in many circles.
P.S. The pro-Russia characterization of Chomsky, et al, is mine alone, not the article's authors.
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05-21-22 19:54 #642
Posts: 516My point was crystal clear. Not sure what yours is.
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
And, at the time of my earlier post, there were conflicting reports as to whether all of the Ukrainian forces has surrendered or left. Please forgive me if I find your reference to an exclusively Russian source as less than persuasive. I prefer to wait for third-party confirmation, or the passage of a sufficient amount of time, as I never base any conclusion on official reports by either side.
But, if Russian sources are good enough for you, why not just declare the successful completion of the glorious "special operation" and we can all go back to our regular lives? I'm sure, if you look hard enough, you can find a Tass article to that effect.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
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05-21-22 19:35 #641
Posts: 516Newsflash: America doesn't care about, or want, the respect of rabid anti-Americans
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
In the meantime, God Bles Russia.
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05-21-22 19:09 #640
Posts: 516Offense taken, but watching America + NATO win is the ultimate antidote to idiocy!
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Anti-American rhetoric is as temporary as the morning fog. Once it's dissipated by the sun, the real world is clearly seen. And there is no real-world scenario in which Russia wins. Only various scenarios of defeat which range from embarrassment and temporary disruption to utter collapse and disintegration. And, no matter how the details of defeat play out, Putin will almost certainly be blamed and excoriated by the Russians themselves. Nothing worse than a "strong man" dictator who turns out to be a weak loser.
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05-21-22 16:12 #639
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
- A. Tocqueville (some Frenchman).
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05-21-22 16:10 #638
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
I like to think American movies are a big deal. When I travel, locals like to talk about American movies.
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05-21-22 13:06 #637
Posts: 1056Monkey Pox
Any ideas on this? Is it just another American ploy to rip off the world? Any connections with America's captured bio labs in Ukraine? Is it one of the side effects of the Covid jabs? The gay guys coming down with it would be vulnerable as they inject themselves with all kinds of crap. It seems Bill Gates won't just FKK off. A real James Bond villain.
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05-21-22 11:00 #636
Posts: 1056No Offence But
You're a fucking moron. I was on a suburban train some weeks ago, three loud mouthed Americans and me in my turf, coming from a place where there had been quite a few Americans idling about. When thinking about World War 4, think about those scenarios. In the mean time, get back to shooting up schools, synagogues, mosques and churches. It is what you hamburgers do best.
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
I hope your Nazi pals from Mariupol enjoy Siberia. Plenty of room for more.