Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[DramaFree11]

After many, many experiences in Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Armenia, Georgia and other Eastern European countries, I made my final conclusion about Ukraine: Girls are 99 % cheap shit. Only interested in money. They want to make a child, then get divorced, of course keep the child and have the ex man paying. When they meet a foreigner, they mainly see a source of money. As long as he pays its all good. But they do not want to invest any single cents themselves. If the man rejects to pay for luxury (e. G. Not only a coffee, water or glass of wine. It must be a bottle of wine plus prosecco plus shrimps etc) then they call him sick and greedy. Fuck them! I never experienced such a shabby beaviour in Georgia or Armenia.

I will still go to Ukraine, maybe every once in a while, but only try to get as much sex from the girls. On the same time I am realistic now and know that a serious relationship with such a girl is hardly possible.

Not sure, why this is a big surprise. I have been posting about this for 2 years. This is real Kiev.

[Riina]

After many, many experiences in Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Armenia, Georgia and other Eastern European countries, I made my final conclusion about Ukraine: Girls are 99 % cheap shit. Only interested in money. They want to make a child, then get divorced, of course keep the child and have the ex man paying. When they meet a foreigner, they mainly see a source of money. As long as he pays its all good. But they do not want to invest any single cents themselves. If the man rejects to pay for luxury (e. G. Not only a coffee, water or glass of wine. It must be a bottle of wine plus prosecco plus shrimps etc) then they call him sick and greedy. Fuck them! I never experienced such a shabby beaviour in Georgia or Armenia.

I will still go to Ukraine, maybe every once in a while, but only try to get as much sex from the girls. On the same time I am realistic now and know that a serious relationship with such a girl is hardly possible.

LOL. The grown up man getting freebies suddenly realizes how awful Ukrainians girls are. The country is a great place to become a child support victim. They undeniably good for fucking though.

[Michi T]

After many, many experiences in Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Armenia, Georgia and other Eastern European countries, I made my final conclusion about Ukraine: Girls are 99 % cheap shit. Only interested in money. They want to make a child, then get divorced, of course keep the child and have the ex man paying. When they meet a foreigner, they mainly see a source of money. As long as he pays its all good. But they do not want to invest any single cents themselves. If the man rejects to pay for luxury (e. G. Not only a coffee, water or glass of wine. It must be a bottle of wine plus prosecco plus shrimps etc) then they call him sick and greedy. Fuck them! I never experienced such a shabby beaviour in Georgia or Armenia.

I will still go to Ukraine, maybe every once in a while, but only try to get as much sex from the girls. On the same time I am realistic now and know that a serious relationship with such a girl is hardly possible.

[Riina]

I didn't understand: did she wanted to go to Kanapa?

It's quite a good place; on Andriyivsky, really not so far from Maidan and quite in the center. And not so expensive IMHO. Not cheap as many restaurants in Kiev, but I think I'd go there for a first meeting.

Dude, the guys a foreigner. He would have been foolish to go there, even if the place is better then sliced bread. McCafe is perfectly fine.

[Arkiloko]

Ok so there is a little anecdote off of tinder that can be used as a shareable moment, or even a teachable one.

So I matched with girl, we sent text, and before long that became chit chat through the day. This led to an agreement to meet over lunch. Here's where it goes to shit. She wants me to take her to this place, basically insists on it - https://g.co/kgs/4Uppdj that's right, the jerk wanted me to take her to a 5 star restaurant on the water for our first meeting! Are you fucking kidding me!? But I'm willing to spot that there may be a culture gap and I don't want to insinuate intent across text so I tactfully reply, well, here's the chatlog:

I didn't understand: did she wanted to go to Kanapa?

It's quite a good place; on Andriyivsky, really not so far from Maidan and quite in the center. And not so expensive IMHO. Not cheap as many restaurants in Kiev, but I think I'd go there for a first meeting.

[Riina]

Not only is Ukraine a damaged culture full of corruption, it's a brainless government. What the hell are they thinking with this whistle blower complaint against a very revengeful leader.

I plan to refocus on Russia.

[PhotoSlider]

Had some dates on Tinder I met a lady here for dinner. Polyuvannya Na Ovets it's like an Asian / steak restaurant. Yup you guessed it 5 star. Had to take an Uber there of course. I liked the lady plus wanted to see a different part of Kiev. I guess it was old Kiev.

I notice a lot of these ladies on Tinder they want to go to Avalon for drinks. I might have to check that place out? Is it good place?

Please explain your intentions.

I am sitting at Avalon this very moment and love it.

I have no intention to pick up anybody, and probably no chance, unless I do Tinder or Mamba or something. I am working on my laptop at the table, having great food and wine. Lots of eye candy at my vantage point.

Yes, Avalon is awesome. No it is not cheap. It may not fit your immediate needs.

[SFNative]

Had some dates on Tinder I met a lady here for dinner. Polyuvannya Na Ovets it's like an Asian / steak restaurant. Yup you guessed it 5 star. Had to take an Uber there of course. I liked the lady plus wanted to see a different part of Kiev. I guess it was old Kiev.

I notice a lot of these ladies on Tinder they want to go to Avalon for drinks. I might have to check that place out? Is it good place?

[PhotoSlider]

...Me: Wow. If this is a reflection of who you really are as a person, then I am glad we did not meet...

What a great line! Respect.

...Goldiggers should be treated like mosquitoes, delayed flights, broken computers and all the other myriad hassles a man has to deal with in life. Stay calm, navigate around the obstacle, move on...

Why both of the above reports are in Stupid Shit section? Pure wisdom, no less.

[Kozerog]

Kristina: Well, since I give a piece of myself and this is a problem for you, I don't think that we need to meet at all.

Classic golddigger line. It's always something to make the man feel guilty and cheap:

"I guess you can't afford the better things in life. ".

"So it's too expensive for you? You gave a different impression in your profile. I didn't realize you were poor. ".

"You have to excuse me, but I'm not a low class woman. I expect to be taken to nice places. ".

Lots of men, including me, naturally react to such taunts by wanting to prove we have money. Of course, I have the sense to recognize this reaction in myself and control it by just walking off. Other men swallow the bait and so the woman gets what she wants: an expensive dinner where she gets to treat the man with contempt the whole time. Women like this are often angry at other men for pumping and dumping or similar abuse, so now want revenge to make themselves feel better. Doesn't matter that the man she is revenging herself on is not the same as the one she is angry at.

Also, there are lots of men who actually want abuse like this from women. For example, there are men who feel helpless to control themselves sexually. By taking abuse, the man eventually comes to associate women with pain, and so his sexuality no longer controls him so much. Or something like that.

Goldiggers should be treated like mosquitoes, delayed flights, broken computers and all the other myriad hassles a man has to deal with in life. Stay calm, navigate around the obstacle, move on.

[ShawMan74]

Ok so there is a little anecdote off of tinder that can be used as a shareable moment, or even a teachable one.

So I matched with girl, we sent text, and before long that became chit chat through the day. This led to an agreement to meet over lunch. Here's where it goes to shit. She wants me to take her to this place, basically insists on it - https://g.co/kgs/4Uppdj that's right, the jerk wanted me to take her to a 5 star restaurant on the water for our first meeting! Are you fucking kidding me!? But I'm willing to spot that there may be a culture gap and I don't want to insinuate intent across text so I tactfully reply, well, here's the chatlog:

Me: its a little more than what I wanted for lunch. It is also a little far down the way.
Me: can you meet me a little closer to independence square / maiden maybe?
Kristina: Take taxi.
Kristina: It's problem?
Me: not a problem, just a little uncomfortable to go that far for lunch. Is it a problem for me to pick a restaurant a little closer to independence square area?
Kristina: Well, since I give a piece of myself and this is a problem for you, I don't think that we need to meet at all.
Me: Wow. If this is a reflection of who you really are as a person, then I am glad we did not meet.

Ok totally duplicitous, dodged a bullet there, WHEW! But on a different level of thinking it makes me wonder what kind of a miserable bastard she must be on the inside, to think in that manipulative way. To approach a social site designed to meet new people with the conniving mindset to gain what? A lunch. Really?? She is then the same kind of person who throws her hands up to the sky and says "hasa diga eebowai" (look it up) when she finally has a moment of clarity, and looks around her to find that her life has become nothing but a sad sack of shit. For this kind of toxic person life is not too short, on the contrary, it is almost entirely too long. And I hope she lives forever hahaha.

[Stevie69]

The question is "are you crazy?" Why are you putting up with this shit?

It seems that my GF got some sort of mental issues and cannot stop cursing and shouting at me when she's in bad mood. It not only happens right before her period but also happens a lot at other time of the month. At first I thought she was doing this on purpose to make me buy her something to please her or just to avoid having sex with me, but later found this is not the case. She doesn't only do this to me but also to her sister on telephone conversations. I really think she has got some mental issues. She hasnt even asked me for money for quite a long time.

I hate it when being insulted or shouted at for no reason. I've been told that mental issues are quite common among ukrainian ladies. Any ideas how to deal with these girls? Are there any recommended medications available in local pharmacies?

[TinyHippo]

It seems that my GF got some sort of mental issues and cannot stop cursing and shouting at me when she's in bad mood. It not only happens right before her period but also happens a lot at other time of the month. At first I thought she was doing this on purpose to make me buy her something to please her or just to avoid having sex with me, but later found this is not the case. She doesn't only do this to me but also to her sister on telephone conversations. I really think she has got some mental issues. She hasnt even asked me for money for quite a long time.

I hate it when being insulted or shouted at for no reason. I've been told that mental issues are quite common among ukrainian ladies. Any ideas how to deal with these girls? Are there any recommended medications available in local pharmacies?

You need to be the man in the relationship and tell her to stop shouting. You cannot let a woman be the one in control. She will not have respect for you.

I have dated a dozen Ukrainians and there has been nothing close to this. If anything they are much more relaxed than Western girls and usually hide their feelings. You put your dick in crazy as they say. Do not be scared to walk away. You will forget about her once you find another girl.

[AntonySun1996]

It seems that my GF got some sort of mental issues and cannot stop cursing and shouting at me when she's in bad mood. It not only happens right before her period but also happens a lot at other time of the month. At first I thought she was doing this on purpose to make me buy her something to please her or just to avoid having sex with me, but later found this is not the case. She doesn't only do this to me but also to her sister on telephone conversations. I really think she has got some mental issues. She hasnt even asked me for money for quite a long time.

I hate it when being insulted or shouted at for no reason. I've been told that mental issues are quite common among ukrainian ladies. Any ideas how to deal with these girls? Are there any recommended medications available in local pharmacies?

[Riina]

I found the story about the Russian glam scammer in NY very interesting. If these rich kids would have known she was Russian, they would have been more cautious.

What happened to the old fashion Russian gold digger from twenty years ago? Yeah, they wanted to elevate themselves quickly in society but at least they saw a future together with their target. I can't recall one scam experience back in my day with Russians. Worse case was they would leave you if they found a better man. Now with social media, it's all about what they can extract from different people.