Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[DramaFree11]

Given the size, strength and budget of the Orc army vs Ukraine, the orcs are by no means kicking ass, in terms of lives lost, economic destruction and equipment losses, Russia is the one getting pummeled.

You are so wrong, but when does the truth matter to a liberal.

[VinDici]

Given the size, strength and budget of the Orc army vs Ukraine, the orcs are by no means kicking ass, in terms of lives lost, economic destruction and equipment losses, Russia is the one getting pummeled.

Correct, I will add everyone in the world has lost from this disaster. What a Mess and yet some want the killing to continue. Throwing money towards Ukraine will only prolong them getting their ass kicked and losing more lives / territory. Great job liberals.

[DramaFree11]

They both lose. The only difference is the degree of loss.

Correct, I will add everyone in the world has lost from this disaster. What a Mess and yet some want the killing to continue. Throwing money towards Ukraine will only prolong them getting their ass kicked and losing more lives / territory. Great job liberals.

[Questner]

To add some content (mostly omissions with some MIC sales pitch):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-war-defenses/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ng-russia-war/

By the way, do you know the difference between a Russian Roulette and an Ukrainian Roulette? (pun intended: in Russian 'roulette' also means any type of ground food product).

The players of the Ukrainian Roulette charge 5 rounds into the cylinder.

[AntonySun1996]

I told everyone on this forum that Russia would win and to write that down.

They both lose. The only difference is the degree of loss.

[Elvis 2008]

Each time the orcs suffer a major setback, the activity in here and other forums by the Kremlin Troll factory goes into overdrive. The more they post hateful posts in Ukrainian forums, the worse it tends to be going for the occupiers.

I'll remind everyone again, that no one is posting trolls in the Russian forum, but here as in the geographical location, Ukraine support is constantly under attack.

Sigh. Orcs huh?

Here is one of the last honest reporters left commenting on the Ukraine war, Matt Taibbi.

According to one measure we spent over $75 billion between January 2022 and July 2023, just a shade under Russia's $81 billion military budget for 2022. In other words, just to keep this one storyline in Ukraine growing, we've had to basically match Russia's entire military budget.

That was never going to continue forever, and everyone knew it, except the handful of insane monsters in politics and media who pretended that the war in Ukraine was not a pure proxy conflict. It was obvious this moment of truth was coming even before the Hamas-Gaza situation changed the political dynamic at home. We knew it from the Vatican-style smoke signals that occasionally emanated from talking heads in the news, like NATO official Stian Jenssen, who sent heads reeling in September by admitting the alliance was no longer imagining a "complete Russian defeat," adding that Ukraine should instead contemplate a deal in which they "give up territory and get NATO membership in return."

Jenssen is chief of staff to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, to whom he had to apologize publicly for suggesting this territory-for-peace trade every sane person knows is the likely ending of this awful bloody farce. Stoltenberg nonetheless was still talking about "winning" even last week, but nobody is going to "win" in this war. There's only bloodshed and a big and fat, but ultimately temporary, feeding frenzy for Lockheed, General Dynamics, Raytheon and the rest of Lloyd Austin's buddies. If our leaders were straight with us at the start of this thing, that's what they'the have asked: "Hey, can we risk nuclear war for a couple of years so taxpayers can fork over a couple hundred extra billion bucks worth of arms dealer bonuses?

The country of course would have said no, like they're saying no now, which is exactly why Biden and company didn't ask. Instead, they lied and lied, but now that the lying doesn't work anymore, they're trying the truth, not realizing it's a little late for that, and insulting as hell to boot. Is there a clue anywhere in the skulls of these people?

[GDreams]

Yeah, it looks like the narrative has finally failed to work. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...russian-troops.

On Wednesday President Joe Biden suggested that if Congress doesn't send Ukraine more money, now, it may 'embolden' Russian President Vladimir Putin to invade a NATO ally, which would precipitate "American troops fighting Russian troops. ".

The threat was not persuasive. Senate Republicans Block Biden Ukraine Aid Despite Warning. Senate Republicans channeled Elon Musk (G. F. why.), blocking Biden's $111 emergency supplemental package that would also include aid for Israel, humanitarian aid for Gaza, and a smattering of border funding.

So your lesson out of this is Americans should not buy insurance because the government will rebuild everything for you?

I hope I can visit Ukraine for the victory of Russia day.

[VinDici]

Each time the orcs suffer a major setback, the activity in here and other forums by the Kremlin Troll factory goes into overdrive. The more they post hateful posts in Ukrainian forums, the worse it tends to be going for the occupiers.

I'll remind everyone again, that no one is posting trolls in the Russian forum, but here as in the geographical location, Ukraine support is constantly under attack.

It's funny how they're grasping at straws hoping to deliver the victory to the Russian dictator and Trump's buddy -- now by denying assistance to the nation fighting against the bloodthirsty tyrant. It's all futile. Helping Ukraine defeat this pure fascist regime is crucial to our own and European security. So much so that this fuckfest too will pass, Ukraine will get the money and the weapons, the Third Rome will choke in the pool of its own blood, and new states (including new Russia) will emerge from this bloody mess. Won't be long, either.

[Xpartan]

It's funny how they're grasping at straws hoping to deliver the victory to the Russian dictator and Trump's buddy -- now by denying assistance to the nation fighting against the bloodthirsty tyrant. It's all futile. Helping Ukraine defeat this pure fascist regime is crucial to our own and European security. So much so that this fuckfest too will pass, Ukraine will get the money and the weapons, the Third Rome will choke in the pool of its own blood, and new states (including new Russia) will emerge from this bloody mess. Won't be long, either.

[DramaFree11]

Drama's finally gotten reinforcements, I see. Good! I can only imagine how lonely it's been for him lately.

I wonder how things are at the Internet Research Agency nowadays -- After Putin blew up their former boss out of the air.

Finally, the truth is coming out. Now maybe you will go away, or go hang out with Paulina and your other whacked out friends. I guess the job with CNN did not work out.

This is one of the dumbest wars of all time, and yes, I was correct and with a few others. Now maybe the liberals will learn a lesson from the massive debacle, but I doubt it.

[Elvis 2008]

I told everyone on this forum that Russia would win and to write that down. To all the folks that believed the western lies and the fake news, now you know I was right. What a horrible tragedy for Ukraine, I honestly feel so bad for Ukraine. All this could've been avoided had Ukraine accepted neutrality and autonomy for the Donbas (Minsk accords). But the west and the NATO warmongers took Ukraine down the primrose path. May they rot in eternal hell. And no, I am not defending Putin. But you have to understand that Russia, like China and the United States is a great power. Great powers have their red lines and national security concerns. Ukraine and NATO expansion was Russia's. Ukraine was ready to accept neutrality and autonomy for the Donbas in 2022 March in Istanbul. Then that pathetic Boris Johson came to Kiev and told that corrupt actor Zelensky to ditch the peace talks. Imagine if those peace talks had been allowed to succeed. Like I said, may those NATO warmongers rot in hell.

Yeah, it looks like the narrative has finally failed to work. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...russian-troops.

On Wednesday President Joe Biden suggested that if Congress doesn't send Ukraine more money, now, it may 'embolden' Russian President Vladimir Putin to invade a NATO ally, which would precipitate "American troops fighting Russian troops. ".

The threat was not persuasive. Senate Republicans Block Biden Ukraine Aid Despite Warning. Senate Republicans channeled Elon Musk (G. F. why.), blocking Biden's $111 emergency supplemental package that would also include aid for Israel, humanitarian aid for Gaza, and a smattering of border funding.

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I heard on Joe Rogan's show that $6 billion would have rebuilt every home in Maui lost to the fire there, and the government balked at spending the money there. We learned when President Xi came to San Francisco that the city could be cleaned up and cleaned up fast. We know the Mexican border is fucked up, but hey, we got all this money for Ukraine.

I think the part that Biden's spiel is missing is how the Europeans in NATO have checked out and also how the war has been popular in Russia. Those neocons were completely ignorant of Russian feelings and how NATO creeping up into Ukraine was perceived as threatening. Now the Russia has the territory it wants for its defense, my understanding is they are okay with Ukraine joining NATO now. LOL.

How fucking stupid is it that there was all this money for Ukraine and so little for San Francisco, Maui, and the border? And BTW, these are historically Democratic regions.

It would be nice if our defense department really was for defense. Apparently, the neocon / war mongers switched from the Republican to Democratic party.

I hope I can go back to Russia someday and apologize to them for all this money spent and tell them, "Hey, I voted for Trump. ".

This is and was such a fucking stupid war. You are right, BR. It should have been over in March 2022.

[Xpartan]

Drama's finally gotten reinforcements, I see. Good! I can only imagine how lonely it's been for him lately.

I wonder how things are at the Internet Research Agency nowadays -- After Putin blew up their former boss out of the air.

[GDreams]

I'm quite certain the Russians will try to take Odessa and Kharkov, both historically Russian cities with a lot of Russian speakers. After that I honestly don't know what he has in mind. Some are saying he will annex a further 2 Oblasts after that.

Russian speaker does not mean anything. My ex wife and her family spoke Russian and are all fighting them.

[DramaFree11]

I'm quite certain the Russians will try to take Odessa and Kharkov, both historically Russian cities with a lot of Russian speakers. After that I honestly don't know what he has in mind. Some are saying he will annex a further 2 Oblasts after that.

Yep, and Pres. Z. Will be lucky if he makes it to Christmas. What a joke!

[Blood Red]

Bidden and the clowns he had around him have done so much damage to Ukraine, almost as much a Putin. The war should have never started and they should came up with a peace agreement a year, but they pushed there luck. Now Ukraine will be lucky to keep Odessa.

Great job Bidden, Pres. Z. , and the other Euros that endorsed this war. What an absolute mess. As I said many times Ukraine always loses, now they have taken it to whole different level, what a joke!

I'm quite certain the Russians will try to take Odessa and Kharkov, both historically Russian cities with a lot of Russian speakers. After that I honestly don't know what he has in mind. Some are saying he will annex a further 2 Oblasts after that.