Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Jmsuttr]

Russians don't bluff, and they don't take shit. Putin has said to expect a change of (leadership) in the Anglo-American sphere. Now, there's something to look forward to -- while the globohomos sit rubbing their hands together wetdreaming about how many more dead orthodox Ukrainians it will take until leadership change in Russia.

Putin reportedly suffered an unexplained, prolonged, and serious nosebleed. In healthy people, or if there's a physical cause like getting hit in the nose, that wouldn't be cause for concern. But for someone who is obviously unhealthy and reportedly suffering from serious ailments (cancer, etc.) an unexplained nosebleed can be an ominous sign.

https://mobile.twitter.com/generalsv...07709706604548

But the real question is what happens when LilliPutin kicks the bucket? Will the successor dance on Little Vlad's grave in public, or only in private? And will the succession happen with only a few casualties, or a full-on bloodbath? Oh yes, and will any of Russia's regions decide that it's a good time to go their own way?

As far as Russians and Putin taking any shit, both Kazakhstan and Lithuania have both just spit in his eye, and Finland has been consistently giving Russia the middle finger. On that note, here's a fascinating thread discussing that, because Putin can't really retaliate against those two (Lithuania protected by NATO and Kazakhstan protected by China and Turkey), he may take out his frustration on Lukashenko instead.

https://mobile.twitter.com/generalsv...09583730905089

Funny how more and more people and countries are having no problem dumping shit on Putin lately. Maybe his veneer of strength is increasingly wearing off and the depth of weakness showing through? Whatever the reason, I'm looking forward to more of the same!

[Jmsuttr]

https://www.businessinsider.com/moun...experts-2022-6

The above link is the short version. The link below has more detail, as well as the latest battle assessment.

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ssment-june-21

"The Kremlin recently replaced the commander of the Russian Airborne (VDV) forces and may be in the process of radically reshuffling the command structure of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, indicating a possible purge of senior officers blamed for failures in Ukraine".

Also, about the battle assessment, any objective observer will note that the give and take continues, with neither side (yet) able to gain any significant strategic advantage.

That latter point brings up an ongoing flaw with most mainstream media reporting. It doesn't make for compelling reading to simply repeat that the war is going through a "long, hard slog" phase in which there's not difference from one day to the next. So MSM outlets have a need to find stuff to attract readers even when not much new is happening.

I wonder if the lack of new developments is at least partly to blame for the lame content of so many recent forum posts? I mean, American Politics, really? Give me an effin' break! First of all, there's a dedicated thread for that. And then there's the simple fact that, except for factors that directly impact (either for or against) the current state of the war, it's completely irrelevant, or at the very least immaterial.

And, of course, there are the regular regurgitations of Russo-fascist propaganda by the schmegegge twin-trolls, with nary a connection to reality to be gleaned from their content-free bleatings. Meanwhile, real Ukrainians are fighting and dying to resist Russian imperialist aggression. Is it too much to ask to at least try to keep the focus on them?

P.S. I would be remiss if I didn't mention a couple of newsbits, like the Ukrainian attacks on both Snake Island and the oil facility in Rostov. Oh yes, and the "promotion" of the Russian ship, Vasily Bekh, to the glorious rank of Moskva-class submarine! But those are novelty items, by which I mean that they're interesting but not likely to have meaningful strategic impact.

[Golfinho]

The civilian casualties in Hungary. "Soviets put a brutal end to Hungarian revolution".
An estimated 2,500 Hungarians died and
"The 1968 Soviet-led
Initially, some civilians tried to argue with the invading troops, but this met with little or no success. After the USSR used photographs of these discussions as proof that the invasion troops were being greeted amicably, secret Czechoslovak broadcasting stations discouraged the practice, reminding the people that "pictures are silent". The protests in reaction.

The Hungarians acted indecisively at crucial moments and were ultimately betrayed by their own leadership. Also there was the unfortunate timing of the Suez Crisis.

Prague 1968? Anything else happen that year? Like revolutionary outbreak elsewhere, USA maybe.

Russians don't bluff, and they don't take shit. Putin has said to expect a change of (leadership) in the Anglo-American sphere. Now, there's something to look forward to -- while the globohomos sit rubbing their hands together wetdreaming about how many more dead orthodox Ukrainians it will take until leadership change in Russia.

[Jojosun]

The civilian casualties in Hungary. "Soviets put a brutal end to Hungarian revolution".

An estimated 2,500 Hungarians died and 200,000 more fled as refugees. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...ian-revolution.

The number of Civilians killed in Czechkoslovakia. "Death Toll of 1968 Invasion Published For First Time".

"The 1968 Soviet-led invasion of Czechoslovakia killed at least 72 people and seriously injured 266, a newspaper reported Wednesday in the first official disclosure of the casualty toll"https://apnews.com/article/b4a9687db...1833f87a88797d.

Initially, some civilians tried to argue with the invading troops, but this met with little or no success. After the USSR used photographs of these discussions as proof that the invasion troops were being greeted amicably, secret Czechoslovak broadcasting stations discouraged the practice, reminding the people that "pictures are silent". The protests in reaction to the invasion lasted only about seven days. Explanations for the fizzling of these public outbursts mostly centre on demoralisation of the population, whether from the intimidation of all the enemy troops and tanks or from being abandoned by their leaders. Many Czechoslovaks saw the signing of the Moscow Protocol as treasonous. Another common explanation is that, due to the fact that most of Czech society was middle class, the cost of continued resistance meant giving up a comfortable lifestyle, which was too high a price to pay".

Decades later at present, Putin's ally is in Hungary and the Czech Republic is number 18 in the league of Happy Nations. Czech Republic Rises To 18th In World Happiness Rankings https://brnodaily.com/2021/03/24/new...ness-rankings/.

Went on a backpacking vacations in my misspent youth to both countries just before The Wall came down and I never met anyone there or in Poland who liked Russia or the Russians.

[Elvis 2008]

This is disingenuous as you've offered praise for Tucker Carlson who sucks Vlad's 3 inch cock on a nightly basis.

You will have to show me said clips. TC has always made certain that his opposition for Democratic positions like throwing $40 billion away does not equal support for Putin. TC asks why should we care about the borders in Ukraine when we have porous ones at home.

Disorder across Europe effects us at home, Duh. Even cock swallowers like Josh Hawley know this, but pitch the isolationist nonsense to dumbfucks like you for his political advantage.

Sorry, dummy, I am done with your stupidity and am profiting for it. The latest dumb Dem method to solve problems is to destroy the economy and have the government spend money to solve things. Hell, let's lay off unessential workers and then print money to compensate them. Let's ban Russian oil and gas and then print up coupons or stop the gasoline tax to cover the subsequent inflation. Yeah, let's not ban Russian oil and produce more of our own because doing so would give more money to American oil companies which typically support Republicans.

Of course, dummies like you do no see that the cost for this free money is inflation, higher interest rates, and a stock market plunge. I just shake my head at the current Democrat model of "let's destroy the economy to show that we care. ".

So I profited from this. While your buddy and "genius" Eih was long the market and has gotten crushed to the tune of being down 20 to 25% since April, I have been buying triple short ETFs and am up 60%. I am kicking myself though at not going long the ruble after Biden tried to destroy it. I would have been up 100% had I done that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/13/c...d-revenue.html#text=Russia%20 earned%20 what%20 is%20 very, organization%20 based%20 in%20 Helsinki%2 see%20 Finland.

"Russia earned what is very likely a record 93 billion euros in revenue from exports of oil, gas and coal in the first 100 days of the country's invasion of Ukraine, according to data analyzed by the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air, a research organization based in Helsinki, Finland. ".

And if you are a Democrat, you call the above news success.

So do not worry about my financial condition. I am doing great seeing how your leader of choice runs our economy into the ground while boosting Russia's. But at least like you, he cares.

[Jojosun]

2 Interesting books look back at Ukraine's Past.

https://us.macmillan.com/books/97812...ivilizedeurope

"Between 1918 and 1921, over a hundred thousand Jews were murdered in Ukraine by peasants, townsmen, and soldiers who blamed the Jews for the turmoil of the Russian Revolution. In hundreds of separate incidents, ordinary people robbed their Jewish neighbors with impunity, burned down their houses, ripped apart their Torah scrolls, sexually assaulted them, and killed them. Largely forgotten today, these pogroms—ethnic riots—dominated headlines and international affairs in their time. Aid workers warned that six million Jews were in danger of complete extermination. Twenty years later, these dire predictions would come true.

Drawing upon long-neglected archival materials, including thousands of newly discovered witness testimonies, trial records, and official orders, acclaimed historian Jeffrey Veidlinger shows for the first time how this wave of genocidal violence created the conditions for the Holocaust".

The other Historian https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/02...yr-viatrovych/.

The Historian Whitewashing Ukraine's Past.

Volodymyr Viatrovych is erasing the country's racist and bloody history — stripping pogroms and ethnic cleansing from the official archives.

There you have it, both sides of the History of Ukraine.

In the meantime in Israel "This week, the veteran right-wing journalist Andrew Neil tweeted "Israel fails to stand up for Ukraine. Reluctant to impose sanctions Stayed silent after Russian airstrike near Babi Yar memorial, where German Nazis killed tens of thousands of Jews in WW2". https://inews.co.uk/opinion/israel-f...ot-be-ignored-.

[PedroMorales]

The Ukrunazis are conducting scorched earth tactics destroying all the infrastructure they can along with murdering all the civilians they can while razing their homes and running back to their Banderastan capital. They apparently understand how unwelcome they've been in the territories grafted unto their State by the Soviets.

They've learned quite a few lessons from Hitler, with the final ones on the way.

I find Chinese media very good. Accented but they understand. I am surprised Chinese advisors are not at the front with Russia, learning the ropes. Russia's main job is to destroy America's satraps and push on to strange Canada and other dictatorships (remember the truckers). There is no point arguing with the Nazis here, some of whom were probably gang rapists in Iraq and Afghanistan.

We can only hope that Russia will up the ante and bring this whole American house of cards tumbling down.

[Paulie97]

But Putler has learned a few lessons from Adolf Hitler. And Stalin. Hitler annexed "Sudetenland" with same argumentation as Putler uses today.

Only difference: Hitlers army was really welcome with (some) flowers.

Stalin annexed part of Finland having "Security Concerns", because border to Finland was too close to Leningrad (St. Petersburg).

Western countries believed, that Hitlers aggression would be finished, after grabbing "Sudetenland".

They were wrong.

Not to make same mistake with Putler again. For whom the Baltics or Moldova might be next countries of interest.

Good post, there's just no "security concerns. " The only concern is swallowing up Ukraine. They want the farmlands and the ports, and couldn't care less about borders with their refusal to complain about Finnish borders. The only problem here is the American far right, with their insistent on deep throating Putin's puny cock, and swallowing the cum of course. Yo.

[Paulie97]

Sorry, Hunter's laptop was real.

So is mine is an Acer Spin, love it, Where are the charges again Hunter or Hillary? Where's the lock her up?

2000 mules is a theory based on circumstantial evidence.

No evidence at all, you lost the election and try to do better next time.

So here we go again. You dumb Dems unload on Putin like you did on Trump.

It's easy to unload on someone when he sucks the puny cock of our enemy, and with a facial finish each time. That's Trump. That's when he lies about a pandemic suggesting that we drink bleach and shine UV light up our oracfices. Then unleashes a mob of hillbillies on the Capital to kill cops and the VP, that's just for starters.

P.S. As to Obamas birth certificate, as to you admitting to that farce, what makes you think the other conspiracy theories you are chasing are true? LOL.

[Elvis 2008]

So in essence, out of your love for arguing, you come to the Ukraine free for all thread sympathizing with our enemies with the usual spurious arguments.

LOL. I do not take my marching orders from the NY Times and Washington Post like you do. I like to think for myself.

As to your gasoline costs, you deserve to pay double driving an old over sized pickup truck when an economy car will do, no sympathy here. Democracy is and that of our allies is more important than the inconveniences of a selfish twit.

I am glad you are worried about my gas prices. In case you have not noticed the ruble and Russian economy are stronger and why not? They have been getting richer than ever thanks to Biden's bone headed energy policy. I am glad you are concerned about the truck I do not own but I think giving Putin billions more is the issue.

What brought oil prices down before was American drilling. The number of operational rigs peaked at 1900+ under Obama in 2014: https://www.aogr.com/web-exclusives/us-rig-count/2014.

Now even with the price higher than ever, there are only 740 rigs going. https://www.aogr.com/web-exclusives/us-rig-count/2022.

As to why, Biden explains: https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/che...g-letter-biden.

First, he pokes fun at "hurt feelings" of the CEO of Chevron. That was pointless and completely fucking stupid. Then Biden says, "we ought to be able to work something out whereby they can increase refining capacity and still not give up on transitioning to renewable energy. " he then says we have plenty of oil fields working now. LOL. You cannot make this shit up.

Of course, this is on Zero Hedge so Biden's own words do not care if you are a Dem. If the same linked video was in the NYT, then and only then it is valid.

So let us get things straight, Paulie, you and your buddy Biden are putting the climate change agenda ahead of all American motorists, many world industries, and the Ukrainian citizens you are crying about whose lives are being taken. Where do you think Putin gets the money for his bombs dummy? Hell, if we were drilling like crazy, that would do more to hurt Putin than anything else. But you dumb Dems are not into actions. Nah, all you do is mouth off about how much you care.

And as far as the earth in Ukraine that getting shelled on a daily basis in part with weapons bought and paid for by us? It is nothing. Mother Earth can handle one country shelled into oblivion. None of those rocket launchers and explosives have anything to do with CO2 emissions right?

Just like you were pro-lockdown back in March 2020, when we actually had fewer Covid cases than we do now, and you have forgotten about Covid, you will forget about Ukraine after the mid terms. Covid was wiped from the front page after you dumb Dems decided you had a new way to attack Republicans. Republicans stupidly were not getting vaxxed and are now in love with Putin. You will not give a shit about Ukraine after the mid terms and you get your asses handed to you. And predictably, you dumb Dems will find something new to be outraged about and demonize Republicans all over again. Your concerns about Ukraine and its people will be long gone, and that per the article I linked is exactly what Putin is counting on.

We Dems care about Covid, we Dems care more about the Ukrainian people, and you will say you care more about whatever comes next. That is being a Democrat. It is not doing anything to fix anything. It is just pretending to care more.

Your insulting me over gas prices instead of Putin's billions of dollars more from higher oil prices shows how brain dead you are. Or is that a straw man too?

[Paulie97]

What far right wing Americans have voiced support for Putin

This is disingenuous as you've offered praise for Tucker Carlson who sucks Vlad's 3 inch cock on a nightly basis. I'm also glad to see you identify yourself as "far right" which is generous given your gullible, kooky views. As to spending, yes, we support democracy abroad as the world is a community. Disorder across Europe effects us at home, Duh. Even cock swallowers like Josh Hawley know this, but pitch the isolationist nonsense to dumbfucks like you for his political advantage.

[Paulie97]

The Ukrunazis are conducting scorched earth tactics destroying all the infrastructure they can along with murdering all the civilians they can while razing their homes and running back to their Banderastan capital. They apparently understand how unwelcome they've been in the territories grafted unto their State by the Soviets.

They've learned quite a few lessons from Hitler, with the final ones on the way.

Murdering civilians has long been out of the Russo playbook dating to Chechnya, Syria, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia. We are exacting a heavy price, much to their dismay.

[Golfinho]

But Putler has learned a few lessons from Adolf Hitler. And Stalin. Hitler annexed "Sudetenland" with same argumentation as Putler uses today.
Stalin annexed part of Finland having "Security Concerns", because border to Finland was too close to Leningrad (St. Petersburg).

Western contries believed, that .

The Ukrunazis are conducting scorched earth tactics destroying all the infrastructure they can along with murdering all the civilians they can while razing their homes and running back to their Banderastan capital. They apparently understand how unwelcome they've been in the territories grafted unto their State by the Soviets.

They've learned quite a few lessons from Hitler, with the final ones on the way.

[Paulie97]

The hysteria has died down. No, Russia does not look like it is going to blow up everything in sight and stop at taking areas of Ukraine where there is a predominantly Russian population. He has shown no desire to March to the English Channel as some have mentioned. The return on the $40 billion the USA has sent to Ukraine may as well have been lit on fire for all the good it will do, and our nation is suffering with higher oil and gas prices and higher food prices.

Well when Russia is blowing up maternity wards and breadlines, shooting down seniors in the street and executing civilians in basements they are pretty much "blowing up everything in sight" aren't they? And if he was only interested in conquering areas with Russian speaking populations then why did he try to take Kyiv? You also erect a straw man when you talk about marching to the English Channel when Putin has been clear that he wants to see the restoration of the former USSR in regard to a rollback of NATO to pre-1997. So in essence, out of your love for arguing, you come to the Ukraine free for all thread sympathizing with our enemies with the usual spurious arguments.

As to your gasoline costs, you deserve to pay double driving an old over sized pickup truck when an economy car will do, no sympathy here. Democracy is and that of our allies is more important than the inconveniences of a selfish twit.

[PedroMorales]

Ukraine president, Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelensky, addressed the African Union yesterday. Out of 55 invited heads of state only four (4) attended the virtual session. The message is America can keep its Ukrainian pervert, who plays piano with his penis.

Hopefully, the false war will be over soon and Lithuania can be blitzed off the face of the earth as a warning to Canada about treaty obligations. The beggars in Warsaw also need a lesson. The main objective must be to cleanse Europe of Americans, who are behind all this. Can't make an omelette without cracking heads.