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04-26-22 10:17 #555
Posts: 1056Sweden is already de facto a NATO member. Finland is a different case. Its pipsqueak naval exercises with the Baltic pimples this month won't amount to much.
The problem in Europe is Americans. Americans do not belong here or anywhere else for that matter. Europe will not improve until it is open season on Americans and Americans are recognized as the genocidal maniacs that they are. Think Vietnam war.
Your Nazi filth remain trapped in the Azov steel works, along with their American commanders. Most of Ukraine's army is bogged down in its east. My own opinion is Russia have given them plenty of warning and they should now unleash hell on them, just as American filth did in Iraq and elsewhere.
But I am not on the Russian command staff.
I have other things to do than argue with brain dead Americans here all day long. No wonder these threads are called Stupid Shit. Stupid Americans might be more apt.
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
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04-26-22 06:52 #554
Posts: 6Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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04-26-22 05:36 #553
Posts: 1968Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
Oh well! It's hard to root for a loser.
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04-25-22 20:58 #552
Posts: 516Finland and Sweden on the cusp of joining NATO
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ts-2022-04-25/
Where did all the Putin-loving posters go? I'd love for them to explain how this is all part of Little Vlad's masterful (sarc) plan!
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04-22-22 15:12 #551
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
In my opinion, the headline is a bit of clickbait.
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04-21-22 22:44 #550
Posts: 516Important to read the fine print
Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
That's certainly not a defense of Goldman Sachs. It's entirely fair to criticize them as bottom-feeding scum looking to make a profit from the wartime misery of others, so feel free to bash away! I just wanted to point out that this particular sanction "loophole" does not direct money into Putin's war coffers, or (as is so often the case) his personal pocket.
As for defense companies profiting, that's pretty much always been true in times of war. I wonder what the balance sheets and P&L statements of arrow and lance manufacturers looked like in medieval times?
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04-21-22 16:28 #549
Posts: 1159Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
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04-21-22 09:00 #548
Posts: 2844How to break the Sanctions?
Sanctions were imposed on Russia but the Folks at Goldman Sacks found a way of getting round it according to NBC.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...ions-rcna19584
"How Goldman Sachs profits from war in Ukraine, loophole in sanctions.
The Wall Street firm has told the public it is "winding down" its business in Russia, portraying its actions as supportive of USA Efforts to stop Russian President Vladimir Putin."
"An investor who declined a Goldman trader's offer to add Russian debt to his hedge fund's portfolio — because of the war — said the trader suggested he could "just put it in your personal account" to avoid scrutiny".
Shares in defence stocks are surging https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeik...orthrop-up-20/.
www.thetimes.co.uk
Defence companies having a good war in Ukraine as shares skyrocket.
Such investors aren't really weeping over the Invasion of Ukraine, are they?
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04-20-22 21:15 #547
Posts: 516More Russian elites who have fled the sinking ship
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...domosti-a77389
For clarification, my definition of the elite class is wider than just govt officials, and includes anyone with sufficient money and societal status such that they could (if they chose) ride out the current storm. That's not to say they wouldn't endure some degree of hardship, but their position and wealth would serve as a buffer against severe outcomes.
When someone in that class chooses to leave, that's a de facto vote on how they view their future prospects in Russia. And, when a member of the elite class takes such a drastic step, it's guaranteed that others will notice. And some who take note will start asking their own questions, and perhaps start making or perfecting their own plan of departure.
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04-20-22 20:54 #546
Posts: 2844The Outlook back in 2009.
Great mental stimulation going down memory lane. So glad I enjoyed the golden years but sad it ended this unimaginable way. First one to go was Donetsk.
Originally Posted by Jojosun.
I have a feeling (blondie's party) will win the election, come jan10, and she has pledged to join the ee, then the golden days will come gradually to an end.
The IMF and the EE did not pump 16 billion dollars into the Ukraine economy for nothing.
Ukraine can not be more nationalist than Serbia, which opted for the ee direction, so in a nutshell the ee needs Ukraine, and the Ukraine needs the ee, and they couldn't give a fuck about us mongers.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...-Kiev/page1105
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04-20-22 20:52 #545
Posts: 516Best wishes for your colleagues
Originally Posted by Cons68 [View Original Post]
Every analyst and ivory tower pundit who doesn't acknowledge the price being paid by real people isn't worth reading or listening to.
Also, anything I might post that might seem "happy" is only so to the extent that I will be glad to see the just consequences of brutality and aggression visited upon the heads of the aggressors and brutalizers. I would have been truly happy had Ukraine not been invaded.
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04-20-22 20:38 #544
Posts: 516Putin securing his place in history next to Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
I've never been a defender of pre-Feb 24th Ukraine and I'm quite aware of a variety of sins they're likely guilty of. But nothing excuses Putin's war of choice. And nothing excuses the war crimes about which evidence (much of it gathered by third-parties) mounts daily.
The term "bogeyman" implies that the fear, blame, and oppobrium is misplaced. In stark contrast, and based on overwhelming factual evidence, Putin fully deserves his condemnation. All that remains is for a tipping point to be reached within Russia itself. It's instructive to remember that Mussolini was adored and revered, until the moment arrived when he wasn't. May that moment arrive for Putin as quickly as possible.
BTW, even if (when, IMO) Putin is dethroned, the most likely scenario is that his replacement will come from the current crop of Russian elites. That person will blame Putin for everything, and will promise reforms, most of which will be of the token variety if they happen at all. But Russia will continue, most probably along the customary kleptocratic lines, with the only difference being the demonization of Putin.
And demonization is exactly what will happen. Stalin was a butcher but he wasn't a loser. Russian pride can tolerate butchery as long as it's accompanied by victory. What they can't tolerate is a loser, and that's exactly the label they'll stick on poor LilliPutin. Their own pride and self-esteem will demand that they expunge the memory of Putin from the collective consciousness. It will be glorious to witness!
Oh, and China will continue to be a major player, so you can still have you multipolar wet dreams, no worries. But Russia may have cause to worry about China as Comrade Xi looks to take advantage of the power vacuum Putin's downfall will cause. Does anyone remember the Chinese name for Vladivostok? It might be useful to brush up on little factoids like that.
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04-20-22 17:13 #543
Posts: 1192You evil imperialist dog!
The Moskva has not been sunk! It has been upgraded with submarine warfare capabilities, a technology you can only dream of.
More seriously, I am not as happy as you are. My development team was mostly based in Ukraine, and while so far they are all more or less good. And some of them even outside fighting the CyberArmy, the toll is really heavy.
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
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04-20-22 17:08 #542
Posts: 1192It is only 50 days, that I agree is like 45 more than most pundits expected.
However Ukraine is a small nation, they can not take the losses the same way Russians do, forget armor, I am talking about loss of human life.
Compromise will happen most likely, but as I said, it is likely that this will damage Russian more in the medium / long term.
Let see.
Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
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04-20-22 17:06 #541
Posts: 1192That is exactly why I used "quotes".
Those of us old enough to remember the "Mission accomplished" banner. You know.
And yes, the scenario you paint, an Eastern Ukraine sinking in poverty and a Western Ukraine quickly improving their standards of life is the "win" that Russia may not survive scenarios I was thinking of.
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]