Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[VinDici]

...incoherent rambling..

I think this is your answer to anything.

[PedroMorales]

I am skipping American idiot Vndici, who argues by concocting quotes from me. He should be e tied to a lamp post as Ukrainians do to their minorities and his dick put on view to give everyone a laugh (and gay boys a free feel).

I have scanned your rubbish, will quickly go through it now and make some points.

The white bands BTW are one of many give away. Putin, who you stupidly link to me, does not have to appeal to yokels like you or your government which is complicit in long litanies of war crimes. Geddit? Let's cut.

1. There was no status quo. Ukraine's Nazis, some of whom are still holed up in Mariupol, were going to increase their murder rates. Russia stopped them by fighting Russia's wa, not America's kill and destroy all way.

The USA laughs at al this as the EU, bar Hungary, impales itself.

I am not a Puutin sycophant. Such a stupid comment shows you have watched too many John Wayne white hat black hat cowboy movies. Moron.

99% of the world has not found "Putin" guilty, you moron. By the world, you mean the USA and its West European and Five Eyes allies. China, India and Pakistan are telling the USA to fuck off.

Pro Russian elements in Ukraine? They are Russian, speak Russian, are inter married with Russians etc. They have been persecuted and murdered just for speaking Russian by scum supported by brain dead Americans like you.

China and Russia have excellent working relationships, you dummy. Their BIRI will prevail. It's the economy, stupid.

As long as Putin maintained the pre-Feb 24 status quo, he could have continued to argue his point of view and many in the West would have been sympathetic. But he threw all that away when he launched his disastrous MudKrieg. He singlehandedly turned a situation that had many shades of gray into one that is starkly black and white. He is now and forever the villain. And he will now and forever be branded a war criminal and a butcher of innocent civilians. It's already done, a fait accompli, and nothing you say or believe will ever change that fact.

Putin acolytes and sycophants (like you) will go to their graves thinking that Putin is the good guy. But 99% of the world has already found him guilty. There is no good outcome for him because, even if he manages to seize and hold parts of Ukraine, he's turned Russia into a pariah-state. And even formerly pro-Russia elements in Ukraine now hate his guts. The sanctions will continue, the brain-drain will continue, and China is sharpening their pencils for all the IOUs that will be coming due.

Whether you believe it or not, whether you like it or not, that's Russia's reality.

[VinDici]

https://www.somefakevideo.russiantrolls

...I love Putin... Russians can do no wrong... Ukrainians are making everything up... It's the West that's doing all of this...

Just so we are clear.

The Ukrainians took more than 100 bodies, dressed them up in civilian clothes, then tied them up, blind-folded them, and shot them all in the neck.

When they were done with that, they strew bodies over the streets.

After that they went around to different basements and dispersed even more bodies, as well as a mass grave, which they themselves dug.

In parallel to this rather macabre "false flag" operation, they hired over a 100 actors, who were instructed to tell anyone who asked, that the Russians have tortured and killed their loved ones.

After this operation was concluded, in record time I might add, we're talking literally just hours after the Russians left. The Ukrainians retreated, put back destroyed cars in the middle of the roads, and returned with the International Media in tow.

Also this same set up was repeated multiple times around cities in Ukraine. All just to make Russia look bad?

[Jmsuttr]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6ZHPL...ofTArv7hs1G9Ko

Here is some contrary evidence that slipped through the USA net. American censorship means their victims are always playing catch up in these PR wars.

Here is an important question: how do you confront a perpetual liar? We have, for example, some dudes here who lies about their sexual conquests. One guy in the Thai board was bonking armies of upscale women a day. Another guy sent me a message showing how the first guy was a fraud. Although lots of others called out the first guy, my question is more general / generic: how are perpetual liars called out?.

No one with a lick of sense thinks that Ukraine was (or is) run by a bunch of saints. But, whatever corruptions and sins they may have committed, or are still committing, Putin has washed them clean by his own actions.

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that Ukraine was engaged in all the nasty and negative activities of which Russia and Putin and you have accused them. So what? Was Ukraine ever going to be able to threaten Russia militarily? Were Ukrainian tanks and missiles ever likely to reach Moscow, or any other Russian city? Was Ukraine ever likely to be allowed into NATO in the foreseeable future? The answer, for anyone who hasn't drunk their fill of Putin's poisonous propaganda, is an unequivocal no.

As long as Putin maintained the pre-Feb 24 status quo, he could have continued to argue his point of view and many in the West would have been sympathetic. But he threw all that away when he launched his disastrous MudKrieg. He singlehandedly turned a situation that had many shades of gray into one that is starkly black and white. He is now and forever the villain. And he will now and forever be branded a war criminal and a butcher of innocent civilians. It's already done, a fait accompli, and nothing you say or believe will ever change that fact.

Putin acolytes and sycophants (like you) will go to their graves thinking that Putin is the good guy. But 99% of the world has already found him guilty. There is no good outcome for him because, even if he manages to seize and hold parts of Ukraine, he's turned Russia into a pariah-state. And even formerly pro-Russia elements in Ukraine now hate his guts. The sanctions will continue, the brain-drain will continue, and China is sharpening their pencils for all the IOUs that will be coming due.

Whether you believe it or not, whether you like it or not, that's Russia's reality.

[PedroMorales]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6ZHPL...ofTArv7hs1G9Ko

Here is some contrary evidence that slipped through the USA net. American censorship means their victims are always playing catch up in these PR wars.

Here is an important question: how do you confront a perpetual liar? We have, for example, some dudes here who lies about their sexual conquests. One guy in the Thai board was bonking armies of upscale women a day. Another guy sent me a message showing how the first guy was a fraud. Although lots of others called out the first guy, my question is more general / generic: how are perpetual liars called out?

Although the USA had plenty on the Nazis in Ukraine, they now deny there are any. President Trump was banned from social media partly, at least, for questioning Hunter Biden. Yet we now know Hunter Biden has very serious criminal questions to answer over Ukraine. The circus continues.

[Jmsuttr]

https://www.proekt.media/en/investig.../putin-health/

https://futurism.com/neoscope/putin-cancer-specialist

The first article is a longer and more detailed piece of investigative journalism. It includes an analysis of hotel records that show which doctors have been closely associated with Putin over the years. For example, by comparing the doctors' travel records with Putin's known stays in Sochi (or other locations), and with known periods in which Putin disappeared from public view, it's possible to show the connections. Then, by looking at the specialized expertise of each doctor, it's possible to develop a theory (or theories) about health problems Putin may be experiencing, or at least is concerned about.

The second article is a shorter summary of the same information. For anyone interested, I recommend reading both, but especially the first.

Of course, since definitive information about Putin's health is a closely guarded secret, it's impossible to know for sure, but these articles provide some fascinating insights. And they're relevant because, if Putin is dealing with serious (terminal?) health issues, it will almost certainly affect his decision making process. If he thinks his time is short, and sees victory in Ukraine as essential to his legacy, then he will act accordingly even if those actions don't seem rational to others. By the same token, if other Russian elites believe that Putin is seriously ill, that may affect their own attitudes (support vs non-support vs self-preservation) toward him.

[Jmsuttr]

Xi Jing Ping has the pee tape and surprise, surprise Moscow Mitch is involved. Now we know the Republicans in Congress snort coke at orgies. Whistle blower Madison Cawthorne is on his way out the door.

I'm pretty sure no one in Ukraine, or who cares about Ukraine, gives a rat's ass.

[Beijing4987]

Xi Jing Ping has the pee tape and surprise, surprise Moscow Mitch is involved. Now we know the Republicans in Congress snort coke at orgies. Whistle blower Madison Cawthorne is on his way out the door.

[WyattEarp]

China is happy to engage in any alliance it can dominate. Russia is now a de facto subjugated vassal state, full stop. While it's useful to portray it as a "partnership," Xi controls the puppet-strings and can pull them however and whenever he wants. If Putin should ever balk at a Chinese "request," Xi can just cut the lifeline and watch as Russia sinks and drowns. So by all means fill your head with fanciful notions of supposed positive benefits. The Chinese will be quite content to wait patiently for their payment. And it's certain to be a big one.

I found this interesting commentary in regards to Biden saying Putin "cannot remain in power."

Per Holman Jenkins in the Wall Street Journal: "My one disappointment was that China didn't pipe up to say, "No, Mr. Putin must remain in power," to emphasize just how thoroughly the Russian leader, through his own blunders, has reduced himself to a rag doll being fought over by nations that actually matter."

[Jmsuttr]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...ment-shortage/

https://www.securitylab.ru/news/530708.php (article is in Russian but will automatically translate if using Chrome browser).

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/e...ve-in-a-month/

Notice that the reported numbers (170,000 estimated) come from Russian sources. And, even though those sources are trying to put a positive spin on things (it's only temporary), you can read between the lines and see the desperation.

Also, anyone who understands tech people knows that they generally have a pretty extensive network of likeminded friends and colleagues. That means, for each person who leaves and is able to establish themselves outside Russia, that will provide an example to others in their network and may incentivize them to make a similar move. And tech people are smart enough to see through the empty (or temporary) government promises being rolled out to persuade them to stay.

In most of the articles I've read about the effects of sanctions, not enough attention (IMO) is being paid to this phenomenon. And, the longer the war continues, the more brain-drain will likely occur and the more long-lasting the damage to the Russian economy is likely to be.

[Tomasb]

Troll / troll / troll.

like x partan or whatever the dog's name is, you are an american simpleton. His job here is to litter stupid shit and american women / politics threads with his cliches. Guess what. Russia is winning in ukraine. The nazis is mariupol have been vanquished. The russian / chinese alliance is strong and all you have is zelensky, a transvestite clown (look up the videos) who got to act as a president in a tv show and now gets to act the part.

Anyone in europe paying attention. A small percentage in any country. Sees what is going on. Four million ukrainian women and children off loaded on us, inflation, unemployment etc. As europe impales itself, a big reaction is brewing. The american tank is running on empty and soon the bill falls due.

One more thing, you moron. Russia is not a communist country though the cp, not that pussy riot american shill, are the main opposition.

To repeat: You are american and therefore stupid. Look up the futility of arguing with fools.

[Jmsuttr]

Russia is winning in Ukraine.

No one who has a clue about history declares a winner before hostilities end, and winning any particular battle does not equate to winning the war. Anyone looking at the early years of WW-II would have thought an Axis victory to be inevitable. It didn't turn out that way, did it? BTW, here's an hours-old article citing Putin's demand for Mariupol to surrender, which makes it clear it hasn't yet happened. In the future you might want to double-check with your master before making premature pronouncements.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60926470

It's also quite revealing that you conveniently ignore Putin's utter failure to take Kyiv. In fact, the many military failures have been obvious to all (except Putin butt-kissers). Not only failures, but also desertions and refusals to fight, have shown the Russian military "machine" to be poorly engineered, poorly maintained, and vastly overrated.

The Russian / Chinese alliance is strong

China is happy to engage in any alliance it can dominate. Russia is now a de facto subjugated vassal state, full stop. While it's useful to portray it as a "partnership," Xi controls the puppet-strings and can pull them however and whenever he wants. If Putin should ever balk at a Chinese "request," Xi can just cut the lifeline and watch as Russia sinks and drowns. So by all means fill your head with fanciful notions of supposed positive benefits. The Chinese will be quite content to wait patiently for their payment. And it's certain to be a big one.

Oh, and what do you think will happen if pressure is brought to bear such that China is forced to choose between Russia and Western markets? Buh-bye Russia, do svidaniya Putin!

The American tank is running on empty and soon the bill falls due.

It might be one of your wet-dreams that the American tank is running on empty but, as usual, you haven't provided a shred of evidence to support your fantasy. As a matter of fact, America has a multitude of tanks, all fully fueled, and is sending more and more of them to Europe.

https://www.militaryspot.com/news/co...ives-in-europe

More US tanks, more US troops, more US influence. And who was the cause of Europe's current uber-welcoming attitude toward America? Why, none other than Putin, Putin, Putin!

Look up the futility of arguing with fools.

In order to come to any conclusion with respect to argumentation, it's an indispensable requirement that one needs to have an understanding of what true argument entails. The elements of argumentation, namely logic, evidence, and sound reasoning, are as foreign to your nature as the truth is to Putin's. In their place you've substituted invective, ad hominem, and wishful thinking. Therefore it's fitting for me to close the circle of this post by making reference to the subject line.

Oh yes, and let me remind you that I couldn't care less whether you read this post, or not. My sole purpose is to point out how vapid and lame your pseudo-arguments are. I'll let forum members read and decide for themselves, but you've thoroughly established yourself as a quintessentially pro-Putin, anti-America, broken record troll. And there is literally nothing you can say that will prevent me from dissecting every one of your posts and exposing their hatefulness, emptiness, and complete lack of foundation.

[Jmsuttr]

Chubais was more than an "advisor" to Putin. Chubais is one of the main creators of Putin. His cast a decisive vote (allegedly) when a small group of Russian oligarchs made Putin a heir apparent to Boris Yeltsin back in 1997.

Having said that, I wouldn't read too much into Chubais' "defection". I've read that 300,000 Russians have fled the country in the last month alone, so you don't have to be sly Chubais to know that Russia is poison right now, and this is not going to change any time soon, no matter what they do (or don't do) next.

Is because I was sure there would be different opinions as to how close Chubais was to Putin, and the center of power. But that discussion is not terribly relevant because, whether at the very center or a bit further out, it's inarguably true that he was a member of the elite echelon.

And that very fact, membership in the elite ranks, makes his defection qualitatively different from (assuming your numbers are correct) any of the hundreds of thousands of rank-and-file Russians who have also left. Among the pro-Putin segment of the population, what elites say and do commands a high degree of attention. They may not care if tens of thousands of the youngest and brightest are leaving, viewing them as traitors and scum, but someone like Chubais is bound to raise questions.

Why? Because elites are at the top of the food chain when it comes to status, power, money, etc. They have it all, so why would one of them choose to leave all that behind? Chubais was, as I understand it, an outstanding example of a loyal servant of the regime. His sudden departure has got to be difficult to process for many, and a bitter pill for the Kremlin to swallow. And how will other elites react? That's difficult to say because they're all individuals. But elites pay close attention to such events because they're always looking out for their own survival, shifts in the power structure, and how they can maintain or improve their own status. So it's my gut feeling that, although done in hushed whispers, there must be a heightened level of chatter among some in the privileged class. It won't surprise me if more defections happen. Of course, if they plan and execute well, we won't know until after it's happened.

I've been following the news looking for further explanation, or comment, or condemnation, by the Russian govt. I haven't seen anything and, even if I missed seeing an article, you'd think that any communication from the Kremlin would be repeated and analyzed by others. As of now, it seems like the departure of Chubais is being given the silent treatment. That silence, in and of itself, deserves further discussion and analysis, but that's a topic worthy of a separate post.

[VinDici]

Look up the futility of arguing with fools.

I could not agree more.

[WyattEarp]

Like X Partan or whatever the dog's name is, you are an American simpleton. His job here is to litter stupid shit and American Women / Politics threads with his cliches. Guess what. Russia is winning in Ukraine. The Nazis is Mariupol have been vanquished. The Russian / Chinese alliance is strong and all you have is Zelensky, a transvestite clown (look up the videos) who got to act as a President in a TV show and now gets to act the part.

Anyone in Europe paying attention. A small percentage in any country. Sees what is going on. Four million Ukrainian women and children off loaded on us, inflation, unemployment etc. As Europe impales itself, a big reaction is brewing. The American tank is running on empty and soon the bill falls due.

One more thing, you moron. Russia is not a Communist country though the CP, not that Pussy Riot American shill, are the main opposition.

To repeat: you are American and therefore stupid. Look up the futility of arguing with fools.

Pedro,

If you are a Russian, I pray for your country.

If you are an Islamist, I pray for your women.

If you are a Marxist, that ship sailed a long time ago. Today's Russia isn't anywhere close to being Marxist.