Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[VinDici]

Easy for you to say as a westerner who sits behind keyboard doesn't have to actually bleed and die in this war.

The biggest sacrifice you have done for Ukraine's freedom is probably changing your profile picture on social media to Ukrainian flag. While actual Ukrainian men are being caught on streets by TCC to send to front.

I've been there many times before and during the Russian invasion / war. Provided humanitarian aid, helped fund raise for their military and families there, as well as helping UA refugees in my own country.

Picture attached is from April 2024.

Unlike others here, I want them to have autonomy and freedom, the right to choose their own destiny, without the Russian boot on their necks.

I am many things, but a keyboard warrior, is not one of them.

Now tell me what you have done, other than hope for Russians to keep killing Ukrainians?

[Reiner Otto]

https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/05/2...m-more-a131403

This happens, when the West is not determined enough. Foreseen, though.

[Xpartan]

The Russian army is a joke. Incredibly corrupt, incompetent, undisciplined with soldiers charging against machine guns, drones and mines either drunk or high out of their minds. Their war strategy is a succession of primitive meat assaults. That's probably how cavemen fought thousands of years ago. Every day of fighting in Ukraine takes about 1500 orcs out of commission.

Russian military hardware (whatever's left of it) is MOSTLY a joke. And there isn't much left. They're storming well equipped Ukrainian positions with 1950 BTRs and rely on Iranian drones and outdated and often faulty North Korean munitions.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...ian-war-effort

North Korean for fuck's sake!

However, there was one particular type of war Russia used to excel -- information war. Used to, because Russia has overplayed its hand just like it always does. No one gives a shit about their red lines and nuclear blackmail any more. The mere fact that they have shills posting on a mongering forum is beyond pathetic.

But I digress. Caught a new show Moscow Tool yesterday on Comedy Channel. Funny as hell, but also mind-blowing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwLF...9zY293IHRvb2xz

Not that I didn't know about MAGA degenerates who adore Putin, but seeing their lips actually moving -- well, that's something. Too bad Klepper went too easy on those magnificent morons.

But then, he talks to Kline Preston, a MAGA lawyer and official observer of several Russian elections, and oh my God! That tool doesn't even try denying that he's a Russian asset. In fact, he's the one who suggests he is (Hello, Dr. Freud!

Watch it. It's both scary and hilarious.

[Blood Red]

I think you need to separate Biden from his administration.

"You're going to see when you're there, and some of you have been there, you're going to see you're going to see women, young people standing in the middle in front of a damned tank just saying, 'I'm not leaving, I'm holding my ground, Biden said.

A White House official quickly clarified that Biden wasn't changing his stance on deploying the military into Ukraine.

"The president has been clear we are not sending US troops to Ukraine and there is no change in that position," a Biden spokesman told The Post.

Biden also said that there was no way we should let Putin stay in power.

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I don't like Sleepy Joe but once again to be fair to him, the man is suffering from Alzheimer's. He isn't running the show. It's Blinken and Sullivan for the most part. I don't think the people actually running the White House are stupid enough to risk a nuclear showdown with Russia over Ukraine, it's just not going to happen thank God.

[AntonySun1996]

Supporting the right of Ukrainians to be free and remove invaders from their lands isn't warmongering. If you want peace, then campaign for Russia to leave, it's not rocket science.

Easy for you to say as a westerner who sits behind keyboard doesn't have to actually bleed and die in this war.

The biggest sacrifice you have done for Ukraine's freedom is probably changing your profile picture on social media to Ukrainian flag. While actual Ukrainian men are being caught on streets by TCC to send to front.

[Elvis 2008]

It's hard to say but to be fair, I think Biden has been consistent from the get-go in saying that there won't be any American boots on the ground. He realizes that if he did that it would mean a possible nuclear showdown with Russia, which no one wants.

I think you need to separate Biden from his administration. https://nypost.com/2022/03/25/joe-bi...pparent-gaffe/.

Here is what Biden said: President Biden told US troops in Poland Friday that they will witness the bravery of Ukrainians fighting off Russia's invasion "when you're there" making a significant gaffe after he previously said the US must stay out of the European conflict to avoid triggering "World War III."

Biden made the remark while addressing members of the Army's 82nd Airborne Division after lunching on pizza and posing for selfies with dozens of paratroopers at a mess hall in Rzeszow, southeastern Poland.

"You're going to see when you're there, and some of you have been there, you're going to see you're going to see women, young people standing in the middle in front of a damned tank just saying, 'I'm not leaving, I'm holding my ground, Biden said.

A White House official quickly clarified that Biden wasn't changing his stance on deploying the military into Ukraine.

"The president has been clear we are not sending US troops to Ukraine and there is no change in that position," a Biden spokesman told The Post.

Biden also said that there was no way we should let Putin stay in power.

These were written off as Biden gaffes, but neither sounded like gaffes to me. I think Biden wants US troops in Ukraine and regime change in Russia. I think his administration has told Biden it would be a horrible move and advised against it. Thank God.

Biden is a fucking bully. Always has been. Always will be. All these fucking trials with Trump are made out to not be Biden, but it is him. And it is the same thing when he had a SWAT team invade Trump's house. He played like he was in the dark with it but it came out later that was his brain child too.

[VinDici]

Thank you for your racist display. A warmonger like you shouldn't be on this website.

Supporting the right of Ukrainians to be free and remove invaders from their lands isn't warmongering. If you want peace, then campaign for Russia to leave, it's not rocket science.

[Haokool]

Russians like you don't speak for Ukrainians, I was there recently, and they are grateful for the help they are getting and looking forward to using it to kick the invading force out of their country.

Thank you for your racist display. A warmonger like you shouldn't be on this website.

UA is the remake of the first Gulfwar, when Saddam went to pick up his stolen money from a US / UK pipeline, that was running from Kuwait into Iraq.

How many US biolabs in the UA? Since when? By whom? How maintained? For what purpose? You know the answer as much as I do.

$5 M mobster Joe & Co. + BURISMA, including member of the US Congress. , wasn't enough, he had to fire a native prosecutor from his own court, and add to it $1 B from the USAID to a rogue general.

Then, the pipeline made to destroy Germany's economy.

Your Bidet has done it all, has much as letting fly Gaza because he is on his way out, this guy has 5 years to live. The Jew knew, and grabbed the opportunity. This attack was announced and demonstrated during 2 long years before it happened. Conveniently, that day, all forces public and private, were concentrated in one location facing Jordana.

Still up in 2017, a website described in a chronological order all discrepancies in regard to Joe's first wife, and child deadly accident. Super Pedo is well organized.

His second wife died too.

The only real support the US has in the EU is from these puppet from England, and that's pretty thin.

[Blood Red]

The shame is unbearble for fighting men outside the trenches to look at each other. Even I as an outsider am looking at these dudes a little funny. Brothers are in need and not stepping up.

I can understand a Ukrainian sitting in the trenches feeling pissed at the men overseas running away from serving. But then I put myself in the shoes of a Ukranian living overseas, in his 20's or 30's, fighting age and I can understand them not wanting to come back and being sent to the meat grinder with little to no training and face certain death. Who can blame them?

[Blood Red]

And that is another reason to vote Trump. Biden said he wanted that and is crazy enough to do it. .

It's hard to say but to be fair, I think Biden has been consistent from the get-go in saying that there won't be any American boots on the ground. He realizes that if he did that it would mean a possible nuclear showdown with Russia, which no one wants. Is he being reckless in provoking Russia? Of course. But NATO or the collective west won't get involved by putting their soldiers on the ground or even enforcing some sort of no-fly zone. Macron is talking out of his ass and full of shit. The collective west is happy to fund Ukraine, they have plenty of money to throw away it seems. And they are happy to supply enough weapons to Ukraine, so Ukraine doesn't win or doesn't collapse quickly either. The aim is to make Russia bleed and weak, until the last Ukrainian. That's sick but it's the horrific reality.

[Elvis 2008]

JC you and Xman are smoking the same crap. The war is over, it has been over for several months

Yeah, and the bullshit reason we were given was to weaken Russia. It was just pols handing money to defense contractors who handed it back to them in the form of donations.

the only thing that would save Ukraine if the states and NATO decided to send 100,000's of troops.

And that is another reason to vote Trump. Biden said he wanted that and is crazy enough to do it. To quote a famous general:

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

I cannot believe how much fucking debt we racked up in the Iraq war for oil and what mattered to get more oil was not an invasion but to refine a drilling technique. The war on Covid cost like $10 trillion and now you got this one which ironically is mild in comparison. WTF did we get for all that money spent? Anything?

That is the thing with Democratic douches. They have no concept of how much things cost.

Chime in the Democratic douche who says, "Iraq was a Republican war. " Yeah, no shit, so why is this one any better?

And now the douches will say, it was an unprovoked attack on a sovereign country. Please. It was a provoked attack and everyone with even a speck of knowledge knows it.

[Riina]

Russians like you don't speak for Ukrainians, I was there recently, and they are grateful for the help they are getting and looking forward to using it to kick the invading force out of their country.

Ten years ago at the onset of the war, 10 out of 10 Ukrainians outside of Ukraine would have firmly said yes to a call from the motherland. Now it's a zero out of ten. What changed?

[VinDici]

The shame is unbearble for fighting men outside the trenches to look at each other. Even I as an outsider am looking at these dudes a little funny. Brothers are in need and not stepping up.

Russians like you don't speak for Ukrainians, I was there recently, and they are grateful for the help they are getting and looking forward to using it to kick the invading force out of their country.

[Riina]

Or who knows, I don't know what the ordinary Ukrainian thinks.

The shame is unbearble for fighting men outside the trenches to look at each other. Even I as an outsider am looking at these dudes a little funny. Brothers are in need and not stepping up.

[Xpartan]

Unfortunately, the facts prove, what you write. Western countries simply dragged out serious support of UA, which believed the Wests cheap words. Unfortunately.

I only remind the 5000 helmets, Germany sent as "First Aid" after the war started, or the long discussions regarding Leopard tanks, or the long delays of fresh US money. Not to mention the failed promise of 1 Mio artillery shells. I am not a big fan of the US, but as a German engineer, I know, that the Americans can be VERY FAST to build up industrial facilities.

In case they really want. Production of shells is not too complicated a process.

The West simply cheated UA. To break up UA, part to the West (Poland?) part to Putler?

For the "collective West" (as Russian shills cordially call all of us) this is a process. In democratic countries, helping others with anything, finances or munitions takes time and torturous debates and discussions. I too would've been much happier if this had been done in a jiffy, but the "collective West" is not a bunch of Putinstans where everything and everyone bends to the whim of one person. In the US specifically, the military aid had been held hostage to our internal politics, not even mentioning the little fact that Nato (go figure!) just doesn't make enough armaments for a big war.

This is unfortunate, but it is what it is. What are you going to do, as they say here in Brooklyn.

There hasn't been any menace in the West dragging its feet. Stupidity, cowardice, greed -- yes. Malice -- no. Your interpretation of the West's intentions is simply way off.