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05-28-22 00:23 #701
Posts: 516Possible post-Putin succession plan?
https://mobile.twitter.com/generalsv...25712476225536
This Twitter account claims that the info they publish is obtained from active and retired intel personnel with sources within Russia. I have no way to verify that claim, but their threads do make for some interesting reading. Reality is the ultimate source of confirmation and verification, of course, so the true test will be whether or not any of the predictions actually play out.
With that caveat, this is posted in a "something to watch out for" sense. In this particular case, the key event is whether Putin's daughter, Katerina Tikhonova, will be elevated to the top leadership position of Putin's United Russia party. Patrushev, the plan's other component, is already on the Kremlin leadership team so not much more needs to happen with respect to him. It's Tikhonova's chess piece that still needs to be moved into position.
The entire (short) thread is worth reading. Here's an excerpt (2nd to last para):
"Those with access to #Putin's ears view Tikhonova as the only possible guarantor of the stability of the regime without being a direct successor. Being the head of the ruling party & effectively running the State Duma & the Senat, Tikhonova would counterbalance any president."
So the succession plan would involve co-leadership roles for Patrushev and Tikhonova. And, while I'm sure some will reply with all the reasons such an arrangement won't work (I can think of quite a few, myself), that's not the point. The important issue is whether or not the Kremlin elite, faced with few good post-Putin options, might see this as a solution that ensures near-term stability and continuity.
Also, there's always the possibility that Putin will be able to manage his health problems and hang on for longer than expected, which would render this succession plan moot, or at least put on hold. Only time will tell, but I'll be watching for any Tikhonova-related news.
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05-28-22 00:19 #700
Posts: 1056Tik Tok
Funny to see the American ghetto dwellers lose their shit. As well as two Greek tankers to Iran because of American piracy. I haven't read the resident troll here as I am still battling recent injuries (three plus weeks, killing me) and the chimp has nothing worthwhile to say anyway.
If you are American, best you check out the Grand Canyon, Disneyland (no oil LOL) or some other place you have totally cleansed of locals.
Zelensky sues for peace (yawn) and addresses Stanford students, which makes sense. Moronic Ivy league graduates being addressed by a gangster who plays the piano with his cock and a guitar in the nude.
Hugh Hefner without Viagra.
How much to fuck a Stanford Ivy Leaguer? Is CIM extra? More or less than a Ukrainian and are hamburgers extra?
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05-27-22 23:37 #699
Posts: 516I probably should have said eye-opening for some, but obviously not all.
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
But for those, no matter how well-intentioned, who mistakenly project their own framework of rationality and diplomacy on the Kremlin, this letter (and similar disclosures) should begin the process of opening eyes and hammering home the truth that nothing less than a comprehensive Russian defeat will suffice. Using a European example, I would assert that the Baltics and Poland, at a minimum, have already arrived at the "comprehensive defeat" position. Other countries not so much, as reflected in recent calls for "a few" Ukrainian territorial concessions.
Pulling back the propaganda-curtain, and the facade of "reasonableness" is a process more than an event. And during that process there will be those who refuse to acknowledge the clear evidence even if it's rubbed in their faces. Others will be slow, but will see and understand, and yet others will be shouting "What took you so long?" in exasperated voices. I'm hoping that the constant drip-drip of these kinds of disclosures ends up turning into a flood such that those who aren't (or are trying not to be) engaged will be unable to ignore it.
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05-27-22 21:44 #698
Posts: 1925Pro-Russian shills here are traitors to their own countries
It's either sheer idiocy or treachery to even presume that Russians would be satisfied with the lands they've already conquered. Whatever peace deal the French and Italians are trying to push on Ukraine won't be worth the ink or the paper.
The second assumption made by those advocating off-ramps is that Russia, even if it were to begin negotiating, would stick to the agreements it signed. Even an ordinary cease-fire has to involve concessions on both sides, and anything more substantive would require a longer list of pledges and promises. But brazen dishonesty is now a normal part of Russian foreign policy as well as domestic propaganda.
Ukrainians have to keep fighting not because it's their choice, but because they have no choice. Some western countries must stop smoking whatever they're smoking and give them every weapon in the world they need. Because the West doesn't have a choice either. Carthage must be, well, neutralized.
"The borders of Russia do not end anywhere" - Putin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou8mI_ce80s
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05-27-22 21:03 #697
Posts: 1925Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]enthusiastically supported the decision of the President of the Russian Federation and Supreme Commander-in-Chief V. V. Putin on the conduct of a special military operation for the armed protection of the inhabitants of the DPR and LPR, the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.
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05-27-22 19:42 #696
Posts: 1056Iran Steps Up to the Plate
The Iranian Navy (IRGC) have captured two Greek tankers in the Persian Gulf in retaliation for Greek and US pirates stealing an Iranian tanker. The 5th Paper Tiger navy is looking into it. Tick tock. Bye bye to your empire of evil.
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05-27-22 18:51 #695
Posts: 1678Yep
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
"Today, Henry Kissinger said that Ukraine should find a compromise with Russia and cede some of its territory. What do you think of that? Is it time to negotiate a ceasefire?
'No way. You can't. You just can't make peace now. If you do, it will be seen as a Russian victory. Russia will spend a couple years scraping together some resources and then it will do this again. This won't teach them anything. Only a total and clear defeat that is obvious to everyone will teach them. That's why Putin is so scared of losing, that's why the nuclear threat keeps coming up, because it's his last trump card. That's why I think it's so important to make clear to these people who think, we can hit America or Poland with a nuclear weapon and nothing will happen to us, to show them that, yes, it will. As soon as your finger starts creeping toward the nuclear button, something will happen. That's the only way.'"
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05-27-22 18:41 #694
Posts: 1678It does
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
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05-27-22 17:45 #693
Posts: 516Opinion vs Fact; Propaganda vs Reality
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
In stark contrast, I studiously avoid propaganda from either side, though it's fair to note that Ukrainian official statements have been more measured while those from the Kremlin resemble the ramblings of Baghdad Bob!
But here's an independent analysis of how things are going, and it's generally updated daily:
https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-may-26
One good feature of this site is that you can compare daily summaries and maps to get a sense of either side's progress and setbacks. Here's the most recent entry:
"May 26,6:30 pm ET.
Russian forces have made steady, incremental gains in heavy fighting in eastern Ukraine in the past several days, though Ukrainian defenses remain effective overall. Deputy Ukrainian Defense Minister Hanna Malyar stated that the fighting is currently at its "maximum intensity" compared to previous Russian assaults and will likely continue to escalate. (1) Spokesperson for the Ukrainian Defense Ministry Oleksandr Motuzyanyk characterized Russian gains as "temporary success" and stated that Ukrainian forces are using a maneuver defense to put pressure on Russian advances in key areas. (2) Russian forces have now taken control of over 95% of Luhansk Oblast and will likely continue efforts to complete the capture of Severodonetsk in the coming days. (3) Russian forces have made several gains in the past week, but their offensive operations remain slow. Russian forces are heavily degraded and will struggle to replace further losses.
Key Takeaways.
Russian forces unsuccessfully attempted to advance southeast of Izyum near the Kharkiv-Donetsk Oblast border.
Russian forces continued steady advances around Severodonetsk and likely seek to completely encircle the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk area in the coming days.
Russian forces continued to make persistent advances south and west of Popasna toward Bakhmut, but the Russian pace of advance will likely slow as they approach the town itself.
Russian forces in occupied areas of the Southern Axis are reportedly preparing a "third line of defense" to consolidate long-term control over the region and in preparation to repel likely future Ukrainian counteroffensives".
Anyone trying to predict the future, especially in a wartime situation, is a certifiable imbecile, and you certainly fit that profile. I'm happy to monitor the progress of actual events, which tend to speak for themselves. And at least one thing is crystal clear, the Russian army controls much less territory now than they did at the beginning of the invasion. Funny how the Kremlin spin doctors try to portray a humiliating retreat as something else. But their efforts fell flat and poor LilliPutin had nothing he could report in his "Victory" Day speech.
BTW, as far as all your anti-American caterwauling is concerned, to paraphrase the immortal phrase from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, I (and all Americans) fart in your general direction! And that's probably more effort than your pathetic, self-loathing, existence deserves.
P.S. Today's Russians are far removed from those who fought in WW-II. So it remains to be seen how much, if any, belt-leather chewing they're willing to endure. Also, the USSR would have totally collapsed before Hitler's army had it not been for the HUGE amount of Lend-Lease support from (wait for it) America! Do a web search for yourself, I dare you.
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05-27-22 10:48 #692
Posts: 1056MY Posts Stand. Un like the Ukrainian Army
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
I quickly glanced at the Philippines thread / Guys doing their Dear Diary stuff, low information to noise ratio but the mod is necessarily happy with that. He (don't know his pronouns for sure but) also has to deal with the strange issue of photos on the Indian board but that is his call and is of no importance to me. His game, his football.
Let's get on to your bs, which resembles that on transsexuals etc on the Medellin Stupid Shit board. Most posts like yours are not worth reading as they contain no worthwhile information.
You assume if you spew shit on and on, it makes it worth reading. It doesn't. I am on no meds as I like to minimize all shit into my body. That is why I am not vaccinated (sic).
The key to trailer trash like you in in the American women / politics threads. They could be interesting and informative but trailer trash just swamp them.
As regards Ukraine, Russia is winning hands down in the East. The USA is happy to fight to the last Ukrainian and America's NATO puppets seem also happy, at least for now.
Russia will win the east and Nato will make another corrupt Kosovo of the West (Someone is making a fortune with all that US aid). Closer to America's mid terms and hard times this winter in Europe, we might get, if not our omelette, at least our cracked eggs.
Zhukov got to Berlin, Tsar Alexander to Paris. Let's see what happens when hard times hit. You keep on with hijacking ships, shooting up schools and eating hamburgers. Russians don't pull the belt in, They eat the belt.
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05-27-22 04:57 #691
Posts: 2842Kissinger V Soros.
How to deal with Russia and Ukraine by Kissinger and Soros.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/dueling...ce-11653509537
A reminder of the Churchilian way of dealing with such situations "When Winston Churchill, a man who demonstrated both Sorosian and Kissingerian characteristics through his long career, was asked about postwar planning in 1942, he replied with words Western leaders should remember today. "I hope these speculative studies will be entrusted mainly to those on whose hands time hangs heavy, and that we shall not overlook Mrs. Glasse's Cookery Book recipe for jugged hare—'First catch your hare.'"
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05-27-22 03:48 #690
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
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05-27-22 02:53 #689
Posts: 1678Great Article
'The War Won't End Until Putin Loses'.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...russia/629940/
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05-27-22 00:35 #688
Posts: 516Are you off your meds? Or taking too many?
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Posting a plethora of threads that contribute nothing other than one's own opinion, backed up by zero links to articles, or other references, would certainly leave one open to criticism about clogging up threads. That's actually a pretty apt description of your posting style.
In stark contrast, I've gone out of my way to find and post items that provide information that's not always found in general media sources. The most recent examples include the extended interview of Bondarev and the letter to Putin from retired Russian officers. Whether or not you agree with what I've posted is irrelevant and immaterial. The plain truth of the matter is that I've gone out of my way to add to the level of facts and evidence in this forum.
You, OTOH, are a one-note nanny-goat bleating out incessant anti-Americanism. You contribute nothing but bile, and that seems to be your overarching modus operandi. And it's hilarious how, as you raise your blood pressure to aneurysm levels, Americans just laugh at you and continue to move onward and upward. America is used to the jealousy of pipsqueaks, and the pipsqueaks should know that by now.
Just think, with the growth of NATO and clamoring demand for US-led NATO troops to be stationed in new European locales, you might just be lucky enough to have a NATO base as your neighbor. Wouldn't that be something? ROTFL!
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05-26-22 18:54 #687
Posts: 1056Ode to America
I thought some of you might like the attached poem which summarises American culture (sic).
I see the USA has today stolen an Iranian oil tanker. Tick tock, says the clock.