Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[PedroMorales]

You are most likely a moron.

You mock Putin, whose father fought the Nazis but you use a nazi name.

Crimea is Russia.

USA should get out of Guam, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Texas, New Mexico, California and that is for starters.

You have no clue as to what is happening in Ukraine because you have no access to uncensored news. Facebook allows hatred of Russians (community guideline) and praise of Nazis like the Azovs, because they are killing Russian speakers.

Go back sitting on your dildo, Weiner.

And? Whats done, is done.

Looks like, you and Putler do not care about contracts or agreements. Only good to break them, obviously.

Like the "Budapest Memorandum", https://treaties.un.org/Pages/showDe...00000280401fbb.

In which also Russia confirmed UAs borders. But Putler feels free, to break this agreement. Like Adolf Hitler did, with Stalin.

So, Putler is in good Nazi tradition.

Hitler brought back the "Sudentenland" back into the "Reich". Like Putler trying to do now with (parts of) UA.

Good old Nazi tradition, again..

[Reiner Otto]

Crimea has always been Russian, bar a short period when Khrushchev, a Ukrainian lumped it into Ukraine, where Lenin also dumped Donbass and Luhansk to satisfy Ukrainians.

And? Whats done, is done.

Looks like, you and Putler do not care about contracts or agreements. Only good to break them, obviously.

Like the "Budapest Memorandum", https://treaties.un.org/Pages/showDe...00000280401fbb.

In which also Russia confirmed UAs borders. But Putler feels free, to break this agreement. Like Adolf Hitler did, with Stalin.

So, Putler is in good Nazi tradition.

Hitler brought back the "Sudentenland" back into the "Reich". Like Putler trying to do now with (parts of) UA.

Good old Nazi tradition, again.

The difference is, that the "to be liberated" population even in Eastern UA, which is very based on Russia, is fighting their "liberators".

Something, Putler did _not_ expect.

[Jmsuttr]

most of you are uninformed, misinformed or don't have a clue about culture, history, land, language, origin of this conflict

Are you Ukrainian? Do you currently live, or have you previously lived in Ukraine? Do you have some relevant specialized experience or knowledge that others don't have?

You obviously feel you have a higher degree of understanding than others. That may indeed be the case IF you have the credentials to back it up. If you'd care to share, I'm sure everyone would give them due consideration.

In looking at your posting history, most of your recent (2021) interests have been in South America and the Caribbean, not Europe or Ukraine. Again, I'm certainly open to considering what credentials you might have that differentiate you from the average ISG poster, but it's up to you to share them.

[Golfinho]

Ask yourselves if you've got a relative, friend, colleague or a lover there, and when you start loosing sleep over daily news, then come

Or if you're Khazarian. Anybody from that cohort ought to feel entitled to say anything they want, anytime they want, just like they do elsewhere, without have to endure your self-appointed moderation.

[Questner]

The poster with a handle Pedro Morales is not Russian. Brain drain, horrors of war, humanitarian disaster are all valid points, however whether most of you are uninformed, misinformed or don't have a clue about culture, history, land, language, origin of this conflict, current situation, I don't know. Please educate yourselves. Ask yourselves if you've got a relative, friend, colleague or a lover there, and when you start loosing sleep over daily news, then come and report.

When everything will be over you all will be welcome back, no hard feelings. I don't plan to convince anyone here to change opinions or alienate anyone.

[Jmsuttr]

I am all against war! For whatever reason it is.

However I can't resist on one thing, the freedom of search of Western Media. The first thing Western policy has done is to Ban all Russian media!

RT is not available anywhere in Europe!! Oops!! We can say its biased! But why is the West / US afraid of the Russian Media!

In short, the west want the people to know only what they want us to know!!

Why I think so? We only need to think about 'Julian Assange', that is more than enough for us to know how the media works, if its in US, west or in Russia!

US just used Ukraine to poke Putin! And Ukraine is going to be another Syria / Afghanistan, and what not!!

Its business (for US)!! Nothing to do with freedom!..

No matter what people cite as "provocations" (US influence, or other), Putin had options that didn't include invasion, bombing cities to rubble, or displacing and killing civilians.

Most Western countries, especially those in Western Europe, have (correctly, IMO) branded Putin as the aggressor. That doesn't mean Ukraine and Zelensky were saints. It just means that Putin decided to start the fight and threw the first punch. And it's also relevant that Russia is the bigger country, with a larger military, which makes them look like a bully, which is even worse in the eyes of the world. Ukraine was never realistically a threat and even hypothetical future US or NATO membership was years away under the best scenario. And, as I posted previously, Russia had sympathetic countries in Europe, such as Germany and Hungary, that could have vetoed any membership bids.

This is important in any discussion of media because Putin is most definitely seen as the villain by those countries that have banned RT. Also, since the Kremlin has enacted laws that have resulted in the closure or suspension of independent Russian media outlets, it's pretty obvious that any still in operation had better conform to the official govt narrative, or else.

Countries that view Putin as the villain-aggressor are not adopting a neutral stance. They're levying a variety of sanctions on Russia, including revoking the license of RT, which they believe to be nothing more than Putin's mouthpiece.

It's also relevant to note that media companies who left Russia weren't directed to do so by their home countries. They left voluntarily, mostly because of a very reasonable fear of the new "disinformation" laws in Russia.

I'm guessing you can find an RT feed if you try hard enough. But nothing requires Western European countries to be neutral, which is why most are helping Ukraine and shunning Russia.

[Mojo Bandit]

Hopefully, Russia will soon move things up a few gears.

You should be careful what you wish for. Russian has most likely seen over 7000 Russian soldiers killed over a three week period. Every military expert in the world that has weighed in says that Russia has lost at least that many. So when you say Russia will move things up a few gears do you mean they should get even more Russian soldiers killed? Russia is saturating the battlefield as it is, they cannot send more troops they can only get more troops killed Putin is having to recruit outside of Russia. Widely reported.

I guess it does not matter to you how many Russian soldiers die for a war they did not ask for. If only Russians like yourself had as much respect for the people fighting for your country. Apparently Russians like yourself are all about serving the master, a slave menatlity at best. No desire for liberty. How sad.

This situation is going very bad for Russia. That is more troops killed than the USA lost in both Iraq and Afghanistan over a twenty year period. No respect for the Russian soldier and no respect for the mothers who are losing their son to mad power designs of a dictator.

My favorite is the first one it is a video of Russians themselves demanding answers about why their Russian sons have become cannon fodder. Then the Russian soldiers themselves explaining that they are cannon fodder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIw4kiZDmQ4

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/7123227001/

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/02/ukrai...dder-16201609/

[PhotoSlider]

IMO the following analysis by Neurosynth provides the sufficient and convincing proof that HH is yet another example of lying lowly life on our Forum. Too much attention paid to him.

Read carefully, and continue no further. Let's forget about the hating trolls, begging for attention here, and not deserving any.

So I went back to reread HulaHoop's supposed posts from Kyiv. Here are some things I noticed.

He first started posting (other than the single post a year ago) on 2/25. On that very first day he started to allege that Ukrainians hate foreigners.

He uses the Russian version "Kiev" rather than the Ukrainian version "Kyiv". (But that may just be an age thing I suppose.).

He emphasizes that he and his friends are all white more than once.

He reports Russian tanks on the streets of Kiev. Has that happened yet, let alone on 2/25?

In virtually every post he says the locals hate foreigners because their home countries have not come to the aid of Ukraine..

[Mike963]

I am all against war! For whatever reason it is.

However I can't resist on one thing, the freedom of search of Western Media. The first thing Western policy has done is to Ban all Russian media!

RT is not available anywhere in Europe!! Oops!! We can say its biased! But why is the West / US afraid of the Russian Media!

In short, the west want the people to know only what they want us to know!!

Why I think so? We only need to think about 'Julian Assange', that is more than enough for us to know how the media works, if its in US, west or in Russia!

US just used Ukraine to poke Putin! And Ukraine is going to be another Syria / Afghanistan, and what not!!

Its business (for US)!! Nothing to do with freedom!!

Politicians are supposed to find political solution considering the life of their own people.

If you see press confress my Ukrainian president some 6 weeks ago, you will know, where this was going.

If Putin has such a great case for invading the Ukraine, why has he shut down private media outlets and speech? Shutting down speech and dissent generally means your message is garbage. One thing I can say factually is that the West is still openly discussing and debating the Ukraine war and whether it could it have been abetted. Not every commentator agrees that we should be promoting the Ukrainian resistance. So where are you going to find the best information? From Putin's controlled media or Western media?

Kharkiv in the Eastern Ukraine was suppose to be a pro-Russian city. Why hasn't Kharkiv's Russian sympathies materialized?

Many of us really try to remain objective and not be overly influenced by media. However, there are certain facts that we string together to come to our own conclusions.

[Jmsuttr]

I am not wasting my time arguing with you as you are not worth it. I am not going to go through your posts to see if the contrary is true

You can try to ignore facts and evidence, but reality keeps rising up to slap you in the face.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and...new-new-russia

https://theconversation.com/putins-f...o-nazis-178535

https://www.washingtonpost.com/relig...-putin-kirill/

Putin is absolutely the worst possible kind of Nazi, because he exploits racism and nationalism and religious fanaticism.

Oh, and I really don't give a shit if you don't read my posts. It makes little difference since you live in your Putin butt-licking fantasy world. My main reason for posting is simply to stomp all over your putrid ideology and expose its poisonous nature for all to see.

[The Cane]

In the Rambo movie, where Rambo beat the Rooskie, Rambo was jacked up.

As was stated. Totally unhinged and removed from reality. Buh bye!

[WyattEarp]

They had their freedom and then more and more fascistic elements and more and more western psyops and weapons showed up abetting a coup until the 'spirit of freedom?' was held hostage to extreme nationalism which has led to the present situation.

If Putin has such a great case for invading the Ukraine, why has he shut down private media outlets and speech? Shutting down speech and dissent generally means your message is garbage. One thing I can say factually is that the West is still openly discussing and debating the Ukraine war and whether it could it have been abetted. Not every commentator agrees that we should be promoting the Ukrainian resistance. So where are you going to find the best information? From Putin's controlled media or Western media?

Kharkiv in the Eastern Ukraine was suppose to be a pro-Russian city. Why hasn't Kharkiv's Russian sympathies materialized?

Many of us really try to remain objective and not be overly influenced by media. However, there are certain facts that we string together to come to our own conclusions.

[PedroMorales]

Two classic ways of trying to avoid admitting defeat:

1. Change the subject (box checked).

2. Abandon the original argument (box checked).

I am not wasting my time arguing with you as you are not worth it. I am not going to go through your posts to see if the contrary is true, that you are some Henry Kissinger type into mongering.

Speaking of injections, Russians like to win too, and will go to great lengths to do so by cheating.

In the Rambo movie, where Rambo beat the Rooskie, Rambo was jacked up. Lance Armstrong?

And banning Russian Paralympians? That is so sick Americans and the councils they control are.

No sport in politics, as it alludes to Israel, who shoot soccer players to mutilate them.

You are American, today's equivalent of a 1945 German Nazi. The moral high ground is not for oyu.

Here is a 'beauty', an illustration to all clueless w mongers who have no idea about the conflict.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrMwaRzeLJI

That fine gentleman is the Mayor of Kiev, is he not? No doubt, he would like some of the swingers here.

Unfortunately, you will be right. Being a "Putin Fan" until annex of Crimea, having lived and worked several years in SPb, and several years in the South of UA, I still remember the brain-drain around year 2000, when, because of commercial issues, lot of very smart guys left their countries. I had an acquaintance, former Prof. of CS at SPb-State University, when starting his job in Redmond, with $icrosoft, he told me: 50% of my collegues here speak Russian.

And a lot of the "Russian Beauties" left to the West, too.

I appreciated it.

Looks, like history will repeat. Unless, Putler will be replaced, soon.

You are simply an American mercenary. Crimea has always been Russian, bar a short period when Khrushchev, a Ukrainian lumped it into Ukraine, where Lenin also dumped Donbass and Luhansk to satisfy Ukrainians.

You stick to calling Putin names. The emigration you speak of is part of the American exploitative way. The solution is to kick the USA out of Europe. Hopefully, Russia will soon move things up a few gears. Not a good time to be a Nazi in Mariupol.

[Mojo Bandit]

They had their freedom and then more and more fascistic elements and more and more western psyops and weapons showed up abetting a coup until the 'spirit of freedom?' was held hostage to extreme nationalism which has led to the present situation.

"western psyops and weapons showed up abetting a coup" - How delusional. The fact that the whole situation was public knowledge that the Ukranians did not want to be part of a pathetic Russian economic zone is just common sense. How pathetic is the russian economy! Choosing between russias pathetic 1. 5 trillion fiefdom and a 20 trillion free economy is common sense to anyone who is not delusional.

No sane human being would choose to be part of sadly ran economy that squanders resources on an epic scale and that could create wealth and oppurtunity for everyone but only rewards butt lickers instead of entrepreneurs. Russian does not have an economy. Cronyism where a handful of people are billionaires and everyone else is poor is not an economy. These are the facts.

Russia has more natural resources than any other country in Europe. It should therefor have the largest economy and most oppurtunity as any country in Europe. But hell no. Russia has ten times as many people and yet fewer millionaires than Belgium. Its a fucking economic joke. Russia economic management is the laughing stock of the world. No one needs to use psy ops to get someone to change their mind when its common sense.

I can see that some people do not respond to reason so they must live in a bubble of propaganda - I shall mute all such from here forward

[Reiner Otto]

Russia already had a demographic problem, with low birthrates among ethnic Russians. Now they've isolated themselves and tens (hundreds?) of thousands of the youngest, brightest, and best, are leaving.

Unfortunately, you will be right. Being a "Putin Fan" until annex of Crimea, having lived and worked several years in SPb, and several years in the South of UA, I still remember the brain-drain around year 2000, when, because of commercial issues, lot of very smart guys left their countries. I had an acquaintance, former Prof. of CS at SPb-State University, when starting his job in Redmond, with $icrosoft, he told me: 50% of my collegues here speak Russian.

And a lot of the "Russian Beauties" left to the West, too.

I appreciated it.

Looks, like history will repeat. Unless, Putler will be replaced, soon.