Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[PedroMorales]

My first venture into Eastern Europe was to Czechoslovakia and its beautiful capital Prague.

:;The 19992000 battle of Grozny was the siege and assault of the Chechen capital Grozny by Russian forces, lasting from late 1999 to early 2000. The siege and fighting left the capital devastated. In 2003, the United Nations called Grozny the most destroyed city on Earth. Wikipedia.

Czechoslovakia ceased to exist on January 1, 1993. Prague is in Central, not Eastern Europe.

The Russian forces did a good job rooting out ISIS from Grozny. Have you seen what the US terrorist forces did to Raqqa, to say nothing of Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Americans have no moral cards. Never had and never will.

Europe's root problem is having the USA here.

[WyattEarp]

And Obama's inability (or lack of desire) to adequately confront him back in 2014 was a profound and costly mistake.

But Trump's incessant, baffling and, quite frankly, nauseating bootlicking has certainly emboldened him to a huge degree.

In reality, I think Trump was schmoozing Putin like a salesman would. Clearly, Putin likes to have his ego massaged.

Believe what you want about Russian collusion, the United States still needs to pivot away from Russia to China. The Europeans are perfectly capable of defending Europe with some American assistance.

[Xpartan]

My first venture into Eastern Europe was to Czechoslovakia and its beautiful capital Prague.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...864&viewfull=1#post974864.

Had the people resisted the Soviet invasion, Probably the city could've been flattened just like Grozny in the 90's.

:;The 19992000 battle of Grozny was the siege and assault of the Chechen capital Grozny by Russian forces, lasting from late 1999 to early 2000. The siege and fighting left the capital devastated. In 2003, the United Nations called Grozny the most destroyed city on Earth. Wikipedia.

Well, it was totally different. Czechoslovakia was the Warsaw Pact member and all alone. The world couldn't help.

[Jmsuttr]

How far back do you want to go to prove your non-existent point? The Punic Wars?

What else are you driveling about? EU will be the same thing as NATO?

Funny thing, I thought I saw "Pubic Wars" when I first read your post. My bad. Wishful thinking, I guess (wink).

[Xpartan]

Niall Ferguson is a highly engaging and interesting presenter. He is part of an elite group of well-marketed experts who articulately present the past and package it up with some soothsaying. I would put Ian Bremmer, Thomas Friedman and a few others in the same group. I enjoy listening to them and they routinely show up in a Charlie Rose-type format to promote themselves and their ideas.

Do they know what is going to happen in the future more than anyone else? No, not really.

I'm not saying he's not engaging, I'm just saying that his logic is flawed. Putin had been planning this war for many years, at least since 2013, and Biden's sanctions on Nord 2 wouldn't have changed anything.

[Jojosun]

The Warsaw pact countries led by The Evil Empire invaded Czechoslovakia in August 1968,occupied it for few months, set up a puppet government, then withdrew their armies.

The rest is now history, But how does the Czech Republic now stand in world rankings?

'The Czech Republic Among the 20 Happiest Countries In The World'. https://www.praguemorning.cz/the-cze...-in-the-world/.

https://kafkadesk.org/2019/10/02/cze...es-for-expats/

My first venture into Eastern Europe was to Czechoslovakia and its beautiful capital Prague.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...864&viewfull=1#post974864.

Had the people resisted the Soviet invasion, Probably the city could've been flattened just like Grozny in the 90's.

:;The 1999–2000 battle of Grozny was the siege and assault of the Chechen capital Grozny by Russian forces, lasting from late 1999 to early 2000. The siege and fighting left the capital devastated. In 2003, the United Nations called Grozny the most destroyed city on Earth. Wikipedia.

[WyattEarp]

He's contradicting himself all the time. First he admits that Ukraine is a special project for Putin who's trying to restore the empire. Then in the same breath, he blames Biden for lifting objections to Nord 2 as if that emboldened Russia to invade. Makes no sense. That's not an analyses, that's a collection of soundbites.

Niall Ferguson is a highly engaging and interesting presenter. He is part of an elite group of well-marketed experts who articulately present the past and package it up with some soothsaying. I would put Ian Bremmer, Thomas Friedman and a few others in the same group. I enjoy listening to them and they routinely show up in a Charlie Rose-type format to promote themselves and their ideas.

Do they know what is going to happen in the future more than anyone else? No, not really.

[WyattEarp]

Kyiv UkraineAs shells have begun exploding in the heart of Kyiv, museums have rushed to protect their most prized, valuable pieces: the original artwork of once-in-a-generation talent Hunter Biden.

"The Louvre may have Van Gogh and the Mona Lisa, but here we have Coke On Coke by Hunter Biden," said museum owner Ivan Rostyslav. "I will never forget when he sold us this piece, he said to me, 'Ivan, I don't know how I got here or where my pants are but can you get me to the airport?' Ha! What an artist he is!

According to sources, most of the paintings were initially purchased for the Burisma boardroom with the tacit understanding that then-Vice President Joe Biden would look out for Ukraine. Museum owners waged huge bidding wars to acquire the pieces, knowing that beyond the remarkable art, each painting came with the assurance that the United States would have their back..

Even if one is a Biden supporter, you have to appreciate some funny satire.

[John Clayton]

Ukrainians can now legally work in Europe. A dream for Ukrainians. A nightmare for us...

Life is change. As one venue disappears, another will open -- maybe better. Barring a nuclear war, it looks like Putin's days are numbered. Imagine Russian girls, used to designer handbags, Iphones, trips to the West...and food, suddenly bereft of all that. This summer, St. Petersburg!

[WyattEarp]

It's also worth pointing out that China needs the West, especially Europe, more than they need Russia. Russian GDP is less than that of Italy and can't replace the money China gets from Western markets. So China is walking a tightrope and is unlikely to be the savior to Russia that many think.

Here's a crude analogy: Since they're both predators, Russia in a military way and China in an economic way, their relationship is a bit like pairing Freddy Krueger from Friday the 13th with Michael from Halloween. How long before they turn their knives on each other?

Many underestimate the dependency of huge trade surplus countries (China in the example) on the nations that buy their goods. The Chinese domestic economy is hurting, but it's covered up by overinvestment in unproductive areas, a growing trade surplus and less than reliable data. The creaking Chinese property market is the tip of an iceberg of underlying problems.

https://www.usnews.com/news/business...676-4b-in-2021

[WyattEarp]

If I follow the women in my Mamba profile, then the desirable women have already swarmed out. They are not based in Poland or Hungary. Istanbul, Dubai, Paris, Nice, Barcelona are now in the profile.

This is the exact same thing we've seen with Venezuela. Those beautiful Venezolanas fanned out all over the Americas and Europe.

[The Cane]

LOL your objection is accurate but silly. If you're looking for an "exchange of info between men who are looking for sex with women" you should not even be reading the Kyiv forum at this time. It's a war zone so the discussion is about the war.

Yeah, it's just like when guys would get mad about people talking about COVID. It's a once in a century happening impacting every aspect of life around the world for crying out loud! That's why it's called a "pandemic".

[Misterxxx]

I checked the Poland forum just now. Maybe I didn't sort right, but only a few comments about refugees. Looking forwards, however, there will be tons of desperation among Ukrainian women, whether you are looking for one-time meets with pro or semi-pro, long-term mistress, trophy wife. And they now have easy full-time access to Europe, if that matters.

Ukrainians can now legally work in Europe. A dream for Ukrainians. A nightmare for us. So far it was social pressure that drove many young women into prostitution. In Western Europe, however, all Ukrainians now have money, help and housing for free. Even if the war ends tomorrow, the new prospects will reduce commercial sex in Kyiv to a minimum. If I follow the women in my Mamba profile, then the desirable women have already swarmed out. They are not based in Poland or Hungary. Istanbul, Dubai, Paris, Nice, Barcelona are now in the profile.

[NRandom940]

At HulaHoops.

You alright? What's your latest status?

[Xpartan]

Mearsheimer (https://www.mearsheimer.com/) discusses this silly idea that geopolitics is different now from 200 or 2000 years ago. Technology is different but geopolitics follows sames principles as ever. "The strong do as they wish, the weak suffer what they must" is one such principle. The weak should thus take into account the desires of the strong, especially strong neighbors, if they don't want to be beaten to a pulp.

We study past mistakes to know how to do better going forwards. Note that Ukraine STILL has that amendment in its constitution requiring the government to take steps to enter NATO and EU: https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/2680-19#n2 . Maybe Russia is lying about NATO / EU as its main concern. Easy way to find out for sure is see if capitulating on that point leads somewhere. But no, Ukraine government too busy fighting the war to take steps that might end the war.

It should be obvious to anyone with foresight that NATO / EU will eventually be replaced by a United States of Europe. Trkiye will almost certainly not be included in this USE, but rather will form a new mutual defence organization, led by USA, extending into Muslim countries and perhaps Israel, if Israel can resolve its Palestinian problem. This is why EU membership is as threatening as NATO membership.

And lest anyone think directly fighting Putin is a good idea, read about how he came to power: https://us.yahoo.com/news/putin-1999...175001959.html. Putin will not hesitate to escalate if he is losing. He will saturation bomb Kyiv. He will use tactical nukes against Ukraine. He will use strategic nukes against a mid-size city in the USA, even if certain USA will retaliate against a mid-sized city in Russia. He cares no more about losing a mid-sized Russian city than losing a few Russian soldiers or tanks. They are equally pieces on the chess board which can sacrificed as needed in order to ensure victory. USA has enjoyed peace and hegemony so long it has forgotten what it's like to face a real enemy. We have become stupid, hence all these keyboard warrior comments in this thread. We need to be a lot more intelligent looking forwards.

Using big words doesn't make you right. Medieval kings would murder people just because they didn't like them, but we aren't doing that anymore. Catholics would murder Huguenots, rape and torture their women in ferocious religious wars, but we aren't doing that anymore. We, America, used to remove legitimate governments and replace them with our "sons of bitches" but we aren't doing that anymore.

Because we have learned something.

If you really believe in all that Geopolitics and Realpolitics crap you're peddling here, that reveals what you are, not what we are.

As to your Putin musings, well, if he's really AS CRAZY as you believe he is (and, for the record, I don't believe he is), that would be an even better argument to stop him sooner rather than later. Because no matter how much we give him now, he will keep coming for more.

Appeasements never appease.