Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[The Cane]

LOL your objection is accurate but silly. If you're looking for an "exchange of info between men who are looking for sex with women" you should not even be reading the Kyiv forum at this time. It's a war zone so the discussion is about the war.

Yeah, it's just like when guys would get mad about people talking about COVID. It's a once in a century happening impacting every aspect of life around the world for crying out loud! That's why it's called a "pandemic".

[Misterxxx]

I checked the Poland forum just now. Maybe I didn't sort right, but only a few comments about refugees. Looking forwards, however, there will be tons of desperation among Ukrainian women, whether you are looking for one-time meets with pro or semi-pro, long-term mistress, trophy wife. And they now have easy full-time access to Europe, if that matters.

Ukrainians can now legally work in Europe. A dream for Ukrainians. A nightmare for us. So far it was social pressure that drove many young women into prostitution. In Western Europe, however, all Ukrainians now have money, help and housing for free. Even if the war ends tomorrow, the new prospects will reduce commercial sex in Kyiv to a minimum. If I follow the women in my Mamba profile, then the desirable women have already swarmed out. They are not based in Poland or Hungary. Istanbul, Dubai, Paris, Nice, Barcelona are now in the profile.

[NRandom940]

At HulaHoops.

You alright? What's your latest status?

[Xpartan]

Mearsheimer (https://www.mearsheimer.com/) discusses this silly idea that geopolitics is different now from 200 or 2000 years ago. Technology is different but geopolitics follows sames principles as ever. "The strong do as they wish, the weak suffer what they must" is one such principle. The weak should thus take into account the desires of the strong, especially strong neighbors, if they don't want to be beaten to a pulp.

We study past mistakes to know how to do better going forwards. Note that Ukraine STILL has that amendment in its constitution requiring the government to take steps to enter NATO and EU: https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/2680-19#n2 . Maybe Russia is lying about NATO / EU as its main concern. Easy way to find out for sure is see if capitulating on that point leads somewhere. But no, Ukraine government too busy fighting the war to take steps that might end the war.

It should be obvious to anyone with foresight that NATO / EU will eventually be replaced by a United States of Europe. Trkiye will almost certainly not be included in this USE, but rather will form a new mutual defence organization, led by USA, extending into Muslim countries and perhaps Israel, if Israel can resolve its Palestinian problem. This is why EU membership is as threatening as NATO membership.

And lest anyone think directly fighting Putin is a good idea, read about how he came to power: https://us.yahoo.com/news/putin-1999...175001959.html. Putin will not hesitate to escalate if he is losing. He will saturation bomb Kyiv. He will use tactical nukes against Ukraine. He will use strategic nukes against a mid-size city in the USA, even if certain USA will retaliate against a mid-sized city in Russia. He cares no more about losing a mid-sized Russian city than losing a few Russian soldiers or tanks. They are equally pieces on the chess board which can sacrificed as needed in order to ensure victory. USA has enjoyed peace and hegemony so long it has forgotten what it's like to face a real enemy. We have become stupid, hence all these keyboard warrior comments in this thread. We need to be a lot more intelligent looking forwards.

Using big words doesn't make you right. Medieval kings would murder people just because they didn't like them, but we aren't doing that anymore. Catholics would murder Huguenots, rape and torture their women in ferocious religious wars, but we aren't doing that anymore. We, America, used to remove legitimate governments and replace them with our "sons of bitches" but we aren't doing that anymore.

Because we have learned something.

If you really believe in all that Geopolitics and Realpolitics crap you're peddling here, that reveals what you are, not what we are.

As to your Putin musings, well, if he's really AS CRAZY as you believe he is (and, for the record, I don't believe he is), that would be an even better argument to stop him sooner rather than later. Because no matter how much we give him now, he will keep coming for more.

Appeasements never appease.

[Kozerog]

Lmao, but sadly correct he may want to check out the Poland discussion, the cost of war is going to turn housewives and girlfriends completely out.

I checked the Poland forum just now. Maybe I didn't sort right, but only a few comments about refugees. Looking forwards, however, there will be tons of desperation among Ukrainian women, whether you are looking for one-time meets with pro or semi-pro, long-term mistress, trophy wife. And they now have easy full-time access to Europe, if that matters.

[Kozerog]

Yes, we did a shitty thing to Mexicans, but it was 19th century for Christ's sake. Expansionism wasn't a curse word back then. How far back do you want to go to prove your non-existent point? The Punic Wars?

Mearsheimer (https://www.mearsheimer.com/) discusses this silly idea that geopolitics is different now from 200 or 2000 years ago. Technology is different but geopolitics follows sames principles as ever. "The strong do as they wish, the weak suffer what they must" is one such principle. The weak should thus take into account the desires of the strong, especially strong neighbors, if they don't want to be beaten to a pulp.

We study past mistakes to know how to do better going forwards. Note that Ukraine STILL has that amendment in its constitution requiring the government to take steps to enter NATO and EU: https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/2680-19#n2 . Maybe Russia is lying about NATO / EU as its main concern. Easy way to find out for sure is see if capitulating on that point leads somewhere. But no, Ukraine government too busy fighting the war to take steps that might end the war.

It should be obvious to anyone with foresight that NATO / EU will eventually be replaced by a United States of Europe. Türkiye will almost certainly not be included in this USE, but rather will form a new mutual defence organization, led by USA, extending into Muslim countries and perhaps Israel, if Israel can resolve its Palestinian problem. This is why EU membership is as threatening as NATO membership.

And lest anyone think directly fighting Putin is a good idea, read about how he came to power: https://us.yahoo.com/news/putin-1999...175001959.html. Putin will not hesitate to escalate if he is losing. He will saturation bomb Kyiv. He will use tactical nukes against Ukraine. He will use strategic nukes against a mid-size city in the USA, even if certain USA will retaliate against a mid-sized city in Russia. He cares no more about losing a mid-sized Russian city than losing a few Russian soldiers or tanks. They are equally pieces on the chess board which can sacrificed as needed in order to ensure victory. USA has enjoyed peace and hegemony so long it has forgotten what it's like to face a real enemy. We have become stupid, hence all these keyboard warrior comments in this thread. We need to be a lot more intelligent looking forwards.

[RedMan0505]

LOL your objection is accurate but silly. If you're looking for an "exchange of info between men who are looking for sex with women" you should not even be reading the Kyiv forum at this time. It's a war zone so the discussion is about the war.

Lmao, but sadly correct he may want to check out the Poland discussion, the cost of war is going to turn housewives and girlfriends completely out.

[Lucky Nuts]

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. It is not a Forum for political discussion. Let us keep the discussion relevant.

LOL your objection is accurate but silly. If you're looking for an "exchange of info between men who are looking for sex with women" you should not even be reading the Kyiv forum at this time. It's a war zone so the discussion is about the war.

[Xpartan]

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. It is not a Forum for political discussion. Let us keep the discussion relevant.

Understood, but it would be difficult to keep it relevant considering that the hobby in Kiev is dead for the time being.

[Xpartan]

The Warsaw pact countries led by The Evil Empire invaded Czechoslovakia in August 1968,occupied it for few months, set up a puppet government, then withdrew their armies.

The rest is now history, But how does the Czech Republic now stand in world rankings?

'The Czech Republic Among the 20 Happiest Countries In The World'. https://www.praguemorning.cz/the-cze...-in-the-world/.

https://kafkadesk.org/2019/10/02/cze...es-for-expats/

Apples and cucumbers.

[Xpartan]

2013-2014. EU will eventually be same thing as NATO. If corruption was the issue, why elect Yanukovych in the first place? Why wait until 2013 and the rejection of the EU agreement to revolt? Why not revolt in 2011 or 2012? Why change language laws the very first day the new government was in office, instead of first focusing on corruption and changing language laws later? Why re-arm, which forces Russia to invade soon or face a more difficult invasion later?

Lots of countries live next door to dangerous bullies. Mexico lost half its territory to the USA in 1848, then was forced to sell another slice to accommodate the railroad, then had to put up with USA meddling during the Mexican revolution. Mexicans had the sense to recognize that USA would simply seize their entire country if they resisted, so they didn't resist.

Yes, we did a shitty thing to Mexicans, but it was 19th century for Christ's sake. Expansionism wasn't a curse word back then. How far back do you want to go to prove your non-existent point? The Punic Wars?

What else are you driveling about? EU will be the same thing as NATO? What does it even mean? Why elect Yanukovich? I have no idea, but it's their business, not yours or mine. Why wait until the rejection of the EU agreement to revolt? Because that's when it was rejected. Why rearm? Gee, I don't know, maybe because Russia always threatened to invade? Who the hell are you to tell a sovereign nation what to do?

The only sensible thing here is that they shouldn't have touched the language. In a country with 20% of ethnic Russians it was foolish and insensitive. The rest is pure garbage.

[Mojo Bandit]

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. It is not a Forum for political discussion. Let us keep the discussion relevant.

I respect your objections and you have my apology and if I have any further things to say I will say them in the "Stupid Shit in Kiev". Even though it there is obviously not anybody sane who is currently looking for sex with women in Kiev as of now. The politics definitely should be discussed in the "stupid shit" thread.

[Jmsuttr]

That is interesting about the history of ceded lands by China to the Russian empire. I did not know about that. While one looks at China as very pragmatic maybe they do hold some resentment toward the Russians over that but be that as it may. I admit that most people think that the ideal that Russia and China have a binding defense part -.

Article 9 of the 2001 Sino-Russian Treaty of Good-Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation states: "When a situation arises in which one of the contracting parties deems that peace is being threatened and undermined or its security interests are involved, or when it is confronted with the threat of aggression, the contracting parties shall immediately hold contacts and consultations in order to eliminate such threats. ".

https://warsawinstitute.review/issue...tary-alliance/

As I understand it, a cardinal rule of diplomacy is that, you want a treaty to truly be binding, then you need lock it down with language that leaves no wiggle room. Otherwise any loophole or ambiguous interpretation is likely to be exploited, if that happens to serve the interest of the other party.

I would invite you to compare your Article 9 of the "Treaty of Good-Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation" with Article 5 of the NATO treaty.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive...exts_17120.htm

There's a big difference between "immediately hold contacts and consultations" and NATO's "The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all" provision.

Now, that doesn't mean China couldn't interpret Article 9 to include armed assistance, IF they wanted to and IF it served their interests. But that treaty only commits them to contacts and consultations, nothing more.

Like you, I've been a China and Russia watcher for many years. I can't recall reading or hearing any expert assert that China and Russia have a binding mutual defense pact. And, given the current state of affairs, I think we'd be hearing a lot about it. If, however, you have a link or reference to an expert who does make that assertion, I'd certainly be glad to check it out.

[Lazy Summer]

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. It is not a Forum for political discussion. Let us keep the discussion relevant.

[The Cane]

The Warsaw pact countries led by The Evil Empire invaded Czechoslovakia in August 1968,occupied it for few months, set up a puppet government, then withdrew their armies.

The rest is now history, But how does the Czech Republic now stand in world rankings?

'The Czech Republic Among the 20 Happiest Countries In The World'. https://www.praguemorning.cz/the-cze...-in-the-world/.

https://kafkadesk.org/2019/10/02/cze...es-for-expats/

How incredibly simplistic, shallow, and uninformed. Have you ever been to the Czech Republic? Do you know any Czech people? The Russian aggression launched against them was a dark and painful time in their history. Many, many suffered and were "disappeared". A country's people should be able to pursue happiness without having to experience the pain of the paws of the Russian bear, or constantly be in fear of it. Don't you people see that this is exactly why so many countries have lined up to join NATO? The don't like Russia. They fear Russia. And Russia has done plenty, and continues to do plenty, to sustain this sentiment. The most effective way to break a bully is to stand up to him. That doesn't mean there will be no pain. I mean, once the bully sees his power and influence waning, he might resort to dirty tricks. Like trying to bite your ear off (play on Mike Tyson the bully). But then again, anybody who enjoys freedom understands the following. That freedom is never free! It normally is only achieved and preserved through blood.