Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Jmsuttr]

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...strikes-a78105

I've seen reports that Putin is very unhappy with Lukashenko as he (Putin) wants Belarus to be more engaged in the war against Ukraine. Lukashenko has so far avoided direct involvement by his forces, but the recent meeting between the two leaders may be part of an ongoing effort to pressure Lukashenko. That's worth watching for any developments that go beyond window-dressed "feel good" pronouncements.

Also, it's important not to overlook or underestimate Lukashenko. He's a savvy political operative and has a long carrot-and-stick relationship with Russia. It's my opinion that he might be trying to maneuver himself into a position where he could be seen as a possible successor to Putin. Here's a thread that gives an in-depth look at Lunashenko's personal history:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...967406593.html

[Jmsuttr]

Nope, at $5-7 a gallon Putin is winning. As usual Ukraine will lose because of corruption and greed. They were winning, but there leadership was too stupid to make a deal.

Because, as I've demonstrated numerous times, you hide behind a cowardly pretense at even-handedness, yet your every comment or proposed solution is pro-Russia and anti-Ukraine.

You should at least have the balls to admit the truth. And, for any who are new to this thread, I invite them to view your posting history as it provides ample evidence about your bias.

[Jmsuttr]

Russia may win the battle, but Putin has already lost the war.

The WSJ article I cited was about Putin's imperial ambitions, which is why any notion that the current conflict is only limited to Ukraine is naive and shortsighted.

I agree with the part of your post about Putin having already lost the war. But, with respect to Russia winning the battle, I would assert that the jury is still out on that. Also, the subject line of your post is a bit confusing to me, since it seems to be at odds with what you wrote in the body of your post.

[PedroMorales]

Pedro, can you disclose a little bit about yourself? Like approximate age, citizenship. I am just trying to get an idea where ideas like yours are popular.

Take the population of the world. Subtract brain dead Americans and those on America's payroll. I represent the rest. Go back to America's genocide campaign of shock and awe in Iraq. Remember the fake marches against it. (being American I am sure you don't remember the 1 million dead Iraqi children and the many others American and Ukrainian troops raped).

Many people don't buy America's repetitive bullshit.

I note you go on about small dicked Russians, a typical American and G7 obsession. Did you consult this?: https://www.worlddata.info/average-penissize.php.

Though Cambodia (where the US slaughtered all round them and then helped the Khmer Rouge fight the Vietnamese) ranks lowest, Isaan women told me small but strong. Your compatriots would be better placed to fill you in on dicks as that turns them on.

Your power is crumbling. I am not here for debate as one cannot debate pigs. Just look at the other Stupid Shit but especially American Politics thread. Rambling nonsense.

The good news?: Russian High Command again hinting at heavy action in Lithuania. Kaliningrad, BTW, is nuked up to the hilt.

Me? I am getting my affairs in order for whoever might survive what is coming. One thing is sure: Lithuania is burned toast.

[John Clayton]

...Either way, Lithuania's goose is cooked and the Polish paupers will be next...

I think there should be a CAPTCHA test to prevent this account from posting on this forum.

[Tumeric1]

Is only about 35 km, well within artillery range. Though the A4 could accommodate Russian heavy equipment, there are some low lying hills that would make a good defensive position of sorts. All in all, liberating Lithuania. Again - would be little more than a field exercise.

Either way, Lithuania's goose is cooked and the Polish paupers will be next.

Awful what horrible things happen to people who listen to American propaganda.

The bigger game is that America and its British messenger boy must be destroyed. The only other alternative is for France, Germany, Italy and Romania to get rid of their autocrats, tell Zelensky to go fuck himself in Israel and try to build Europe anew.

I don't know what America, Epstein etc have on the French, Germans etc but it must be some seriously sick shit. Vilnius is easy. They just want to make money by pimping their young boys out to American GIs. But the others, God knows.

It does not look like any of the crap you post is getting any attention. Are you being paid in rubles for posting here?

[PedroMorales]

Is only about 35 km, well within artillery range. Though the A4 could accommodate Russian heavy equipment, there are some low lying hills that would make a good defensive position of sorts. All in all, liberating Lithuania. Again - would be little more than a field exercise.

Either way, Lithuania's goose is cooked and the Polish paupers will be next.

Awful what horrible things happen to people who listen to American propaganda.

The bigger game is that America and its British messenger boy must be destroyed. The only other alternative is for France, Germany, Italy and Romania to get rid of their autocrats, tell Zelensky to go fuck himself in Israel and try to build Europe anew.

I don't know what America, Epstein etc have on the French, Germans etc but it must be some seriously sick shit. Vilnius is easy. They just want to make money by pimping their young boys out to American GIs. But the others, God knows.

[PedroMorales]

Stop reading the NYT and WP for a start. There are alternative American sources available but you have to dig for them.

Almost all Americans posting here are semi literate low life with no sense of self. Look at the American Politics thread which is as incoherent as POTUS Biden and as incontinent as his ass. They do serve the purpose of tel; ling us most American mongers / tourists should be avoided.

The moderator's problem is where to allow all the American crazies shoot off without jamming up the site overall. The Crazy Shit threads help him a lot in that regard but it is really pushing shit uphill.

As regards sexual services, folk have bigger things afoot now. Though many women now have to do what women have to do, there are all kinds of extra risks involved.

That said, there is a famous account of a Japanese banker in Germany in Weimar of the hyper inflation. Sex for (inflation adjusted) pennies / pfennig.

The Ukrainian gangsters are being kept artificially afloat by massive EU / US suibventions. When that ends and Zelenskystan is a Bosnian style rump state, you will get all the sex you like from the surviving Nazis for pennies.

If you don't mind getting in line behind the Germans who are suffering a lot as they have no seasonal Ukrainian workers to pick their fruits and vegetables.

Give the EU the far side of winter and there will be plenty of cheap picking all across it, if you don't mind nuclear fall out, that is.

I have been reading this thread faithfully because it is a different view of the war that one gets in the NY Times of the Washington Post. However, to be honest guys, this is the wrong forum for these debates.

The ISG is about getting sex, generally paid sex. Historically, prostitution has flourished in wars (as have brutal forms of sexual assault). If you want to argue politics, and you want people to pay attention, try another web site. But if you tell us about P4P and other forms of sexual intimacy in this war situation, you will be telling us something really novel.

I am not taking sides here (although I admit to having strong feelings about the war as well as the long history of antisemitism in Ukraine despite a Jewish president). I just think contributions about getting laid would be far more interesting here and your long discourses about politics are a waste of your time.

[DramaFree11]

Russia may win the battle, but Putin has already lost the war.

Nope, at $5-7 a gallon Putin is winning. As usual Ukraine will lose because of corruption and greed. They were winning, but there leadership was too stupid to make a deal.

[Xpartan]

Lithuania must be nuked. And Poland too if those beggars don't STFU. The three Baltic states could be taken out with 1 nuke, 2 max. Poland would take 3-4 max. That would leave plenty for London and the USA.

Pedro should be banned permanently.

And Morales too if he doesn't STFU.

[TConor]

This article is from the WSJ, which is usually paywalled. But this link is from the author's Twitter feed and should give you a readable version. When I opened it on my phone, I got a couple of "subscribe now" boxes but I was able to close them and keep reading.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-far...mobilewebshare

Here are some quotes:

"At a ceremony honoring young geographers in 2016, President Vladimir Putin asked one boy about the capital of Burkina Faso and then quizzed another about where Russia's borders end. At the Bering Strait with the United States," the 9-year-old boy ventured hesitantly. Mr. Putin, who chairs the board of the Russian Geographic Society, contradicted the boy to triumphant applause. "The borders of Russia," he pronounced, "never end".

"Earlier this month, Mr. Putin said that he views Ukraine as just the first step, with many other territories potential targets".

The article then raises the possibility that Putin, rather than lowering his ambitions because of his military's underperformance in Ukraine, might be motivated to double down on his aggression.

"Yet it is precisely the embarrassing setbacks in Ukraine that may push Mr. Putin to expand the conflict, cautioned Marat Gelman, an opposition politician who once advised the Russian president and served as a senior executive for Russian state TV. "There is a threat to his ratings inside the country. He cannot explain to Russian citizens why the great army that he has been expanding and financing all this time cannot deal with the Ukrainian resistance," Mr. Gelman said. "So he needs to turn everything into a new dimension, where he is at war not with Ukraine but with the entire world. Therefore, there is a danger that he will choose another victim. " A broader conflict, Mr. Gelman said, could justify mobilizing civilians into the military and removing the few civil liberties that still exist in Russia".

"Putin's imperial ambitions have grown over time because his previous acts of territorial aggression went largely unchallenged. The 2008 invasion of Georgia wasn't sanctioned in any serious way and was followed by President Barack Obama's attempt at a "reset" with Moscow. The 2014 intervention in Donbas and annexation of Crimea during Mr. Obama's second term prompted only halfhearted sanctions. Until last February, Germany pushed the Nord Stream 2 pipeline project that would have allowed Russia's gas exports to bypass Ukraine. Up until April, the USA And its allies refused to provide Kyiv with the heavy weapons that could have deterred this year's war".

"Putin simply does what he can get away with, like a hooligan," said Mikhail Kasyanov, a Russian opposition politician who served as Mr. Putin's prime minister from 2000 to 2004. "If he is allowed to conquer some territories and Europe and the USA End up swallowing that fact, he will simply keep going forward".

There's more in the article, like discussions of Russia's history of brutal conquests, but hopefully the above quotes convey the gist of the argument.

One point this reinforces for me is that any peace proposal that doesn't take into account Putin's own statements of intent (along with the hardliners in Russia), and his past record of false peace phase, followed by a pause, followed by a new aggression phase, is fatally flawed.

My personal conclusion: While the most effective method of defeating it is certainly open to debate, Putin-perialism must absolutely be defeated in order for any meaningful peace to be achieved.

Russia may win the battle, but Putin has already lost the war.

[Jmsuttr]

I have been reading this thread faithfully because it is a different view of the war that one gets in the NY Times of the Washington Post. However, to be honest guys, this is the wrong forum for these debates.

The ISG is about getting sex, generally paid sex. Historically, prostitution has flourished in wars (as have brutal forms of sexual assault). If you want to argue politics, and you want people to pay attention, try another web site. But if you tell us about P4P and other forms of sexual intimacy in this war situation, you will be telling us something really novel.

I am not taking sides here (although I admit to having strong feelings about the war as well as the long history of antisemitism in Ukraine despite a Jewish president). I just think contributions about getting laid would be far more interesting here and your long discourses about politics are a waste of your time.

And that's because this is where all the Stupid Shit that may not be directly mongering-related ends up. If you're looking for specific hooker recommendations, you're in the wrong place and should check out the specific city threads instead.

Also, it's a bit odd that you're so quick to criticize political discussions yet, in the same post, you have no problem talking about anti-Semitism and Jewish presidents. I would respectfully suggest that's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black, don't you think?

[Jmsuttr]

Russia is giving Belarus Iskander-M missiles capable of carrying nuclear loads. Unless Lithuania surrenders the Suwalki Gap, Lithuania must be nuked. And Poland too if those beggars don't STFU. The three Baltic states could be taken out with 1 nuke, 2 max. Poland would take 3-4 max. That would leave plenty for London and the USA.

Romania, like Finland and Sweden, have learned before it is too late.

The British and Americans are driving all this madness. If it takes nuclear weapons to stop it, fair enough. Little Baltic and Polish monkeys must pay, as must their organ grinders. A pity it has come to this but fuck it all, enough is enough.

Russia has a no first strike priviso. Russia should renounce that. Or just get on with it and wipe the Baltics and Poland off the face of the earth as opening salvos.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2712127

Which is, very simply, that there is no way to know with certainty that any use of nukes could be contained. Any strike would provoke a response. And sub-launched nukes (to name just one platform) would be difficult or impossible to defend against.

A couple for Moscow, a couple for St. Petersburg, one for Vladivostok, a few others here and there, and Russia would be a stone-age skating rink.

And that means, if Putin follows your advice, you and everyone you know might be dead or, if unfortunate enough to survive, as good as dead.

But that's fine, I'd expect as much from a pathetic schmegegge-troll.

[Jmsuttr]

Yeah, the good guy-bad guy narrative is too easy for me.

Yeah, looks like that's your problem with a lot of things. I guess it doesn't bother you that the ONLY people in the world who would even think to characterize the Russians as having any shred of justification are the propaganda mongers themselves and the trolls who parrot their BS. Which one are you?

Sorry, my morality meter does not kick in

Yes, with this post you've made it abundantly clear that you have none.

Are these the same "experts" who said Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation

Wow, you really are the master of the non sequitur, aren't you? Since you're asking, maybe these are the experts who gave fentanyl to Matt Taibbi, since your earlier posts demonstrated your bizarre infatuation with such irrelevancies.

With Biden putting climate change above oil production and enriching Putin and hurting us, you lost me.

Yeah, I think you were lost a long time ago. But I bet you'd kill it over in the American Politics thread, since you and Pedro M are basically two sides of the same inane coin.

You think war is like going to a UFC fight where you cheer on your favorite.

No, I think war is like war, with people killing and being killed. And, while it's not always possible to discern the good from the bad, sometimes it's quite easy. For example, on September 1st, 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. The US had no problem recognizing who the bad guy was because naked aggression made it clear. And the US, even with the existence of Neutrality Acts passed in the 1930's, figured out ways to help. We didn't go to war ourselves until Pearl Harbor, but we were already involved by virtue of our support. Had we not given it, we'd probably all be speaking German right now.

BTW, nowhere have I EVER suggested the US needs to, or should, be directly involved in the conflict. The Ukrainians are doing quite well. They just need the continuing support of countries that, unlike you, have figured out that Putin is the bad guy here. If you like him so much, feel free to move to Russia and let us know how that works out for you.

[Riina]

I have been reading this thread faithfully because it is a different view of the war that one gets in the NY Times of the Washington Post. However, to be honest guys, this is the wrong forum for these debates.

The ISG is about getting sex, generally paid sex. Historically, prostitution has flourished in wars (as have brutal forms of sexual assault). If you want to argue politics, and you want people to pay attention, try another web site. But if you tell us about P4P and other forms of sexual intimacy in this war situation, you will be telling us something really novel.

I am not taking sides here (although I admit to having strong feelings about the war as well as the long history of antisemitism in Ukraine despite a Jewish president). I just think contributions about getting laid would be far more interesting here and your long discourses about politics are a waste of your time.

This thread has been hijacked by a real ASSet.