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06-21-22 20:33 #937
Posts: 1680Well
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
As to your gasoline costs, you deserve to pay double driving an old over sized pickup truck when an economy car will do, no sympathy here. Democracy is and that of our allies is more important than the inconveniences of a selfish twit.
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06-21-22 19:36 #936
Posts: 1056Ex Africa Aliquid Sempter Nobis
Ukraine president, Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelensky, addressed the African Union yesterday. Out of 55 invited heads of state only four (4) attended the virtual session. The message is America can keep its Ukrainian pervert, who plays piano with his penis.
Hopefully, the false war will be over soon and Lithuania can be blitzed off the face of the earth as a warning to Canada about treaty obligations. The beggars in Warsaw also need a lesson. The main objective must be to cleanse Europe of Americans, who are behind all this. Can't make an omelette without cracking heads.
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06-21-22 19:21 #935
Posts: 3230Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
2000 mules is a theory based on circumstantial evidence. The main charge against it is that the cell phone signals are not that accurate, but anyone who uses Uber and can see how accurate GPS is with phones knows that is bullshit. Durham caught a government lawyer lying on a FISA warrant request. He also caught Sussman lying to the FBI. He was found not guilty but no one said he was not lying. And the lab leak theory has now been accepted as possible even by the WHO.
I do not know about the Chinese paper and yeah, the Obama birth certificate thing was bullshit. Congratulations, you got one right, and that one was 10 years ago.
So all the things you call bullshit conspiracy theory blew up in your face. Russiagate was a total conspiracy and fraud. Trump being spied on during the campaign was conspiracy theory too until it was proven to be true.
Hunter Biden was collecting big money from the Ukrainian aid package, and daddy Joe fired the prosecutor looking into said corruption. Nancy Pelosi's kid and Mitt Romney's kid were cashing in too. That is not illegal but it is disgusting. Giving them money was basically legal bribery.
Then we learned that Ukraine was being run by Democratic operatives in NGOs. Maybe that is not known to the Republicans who voted for this $40 billion in military aid but it should have been. Even the hero to Democrats Marie Yovanovitch, former Ukraine ambassador, admits that had Trump been in office, Putin would not have invaded, and it is not because Trump was Putin's butt boy but because Biden continued to fuck around in Ukraine.
So here we go again. You dumb Dems unload on Putin like you did on Trump. Your litany of analogies to Hitler, Pot Pol ETC are predictable. Thing is in every situation where that kind of language was used, and a despot was kicked out in recent times, that nation's quality of life went in the toilet. Hell, you just demonized Trump to no end and we got Biden. Covid cases soared with him, we have inflation and $6 gas, a bear market, and shortages of tampons and baby formula. Woo hoo! Of course, like so many of the dumbest Dems you are not in America so you do not see the effects like those of us who live here do, but it is not good.
So get beyond the name calling, and what have you got? Nothing. Everything was baked into a Ukrainian victory and that is not happening. That $40 billion that was spent has been pissed away. Who cares? You are not paying taxes. Your lazy ass is getting social security checks and cheap health care. Of course, those of us who have to work for it and pay for it are not pleased. I wonder if all you saber rattling dumb Dem freeloaders would have been this way had your SS checks been cut to pay for said aid.
So now what? You dumb Dems going to continue talking shit about Putin? How does that help? If you want this war over with, and it is pretty clear now you do not, Putin has to be dealt with. He is the only one who can stop it.
Your grand plan of spending billions of dollars to get a huge boost in the midterms from Putin being kicked out of office has gone up in smoke, and that and only that was what all the trash talking was about. If you all gave a damn about the Ukrainian people, this war would be over with. Hell, you dumb Dems are continuing to throw Ukrainian lives in the toilet just to "weaken" Putin.
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06-21-22 19:06 #934
Posts: 500Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Only difference: Hitlers army was really welcome with (some) flowers.
Stalin annexed part of Finland having "Security Concerns", because border to Finland was too close to Leningrad (St. Petersburg).
Western contries believed, that Hitlers aggression would be fnished, after grabbing "Sudetenland".
They were wrong.
Not to make same mistake with Putler again. For whom the Baltics or Moldova might be next countries of interest.
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06-21-22 18:57 #933
Posts: 500Originally Posted by JohnClayton [View Original Post]
Nowadays Putler argues a bit similar.
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06-21-22 18:18 #932
Posts: 49Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
USA Accuses Zero Hedge of Spreading Russian Propaganda.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ian-propaganda#xj4 y7 vzkg.
Is Zero Hedge a Russian Trojan Horse?
https://newrepublic.com/article/1567...n-trojan-horse
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge
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06-21-22 18:11 #931
Posts: 746Originally Posted by ReinerOtto [View Original Post]
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06-21-22 17:45 #930
Posts: 500Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Only Putler might request this "natural right", based on military power. Unfortunately, Luthania is member of NATO, so its not so easy for him to enforce this "natural right".
BTW, may be, Germany should request "repatriation" of Koenigsberg (actually: Kaliningrad), because of being native German for more than 300 years.
Putler is invited to carry goods to Kaliningrad by air. Like the Americans did, during the blockage of Berlin by the Russians.
Or Putler might send ships. No blockage of Kaliningrads ports, like Putler does to the UA.
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06-21-22 17:37 #929
Posts: 1680Yawns
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
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06-21-22 16:58 #928
Posts: 1680Okay
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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06-21-22 15:57 #927
Posts: 1056Lithuania, Mushrooom Cloud
Let's pray Kaliningrad fares well and that Vilnius does not get the mushroom cloud it deserves from either China or Russia, as it has some nice architecture.
I see the two Yankee mercenaries (the Viet and the bio labs guy) are saying they are anti war. Walking corpses often are.
Let the Americans and Israelis troll on. Hopefully, the Lithuanians will get what they want and deserve.
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06-21-22 15:40 #926
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
As far as the future regardless of the war's resolution, Putin has put Russia in a very bad place for likely his remaining life. However, I am a cynical and critical American. I think there will be the usual rapprochement by the usual European countries sooner and more amicable than the USA And you. K. You can bet Poland and the Baltic states will not look past this Ukraine aggression anytime soon.
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06-21-22 15:27 #925
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
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06-21-22 15:01 #924
Posts: 1680Lol
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
https://www.thoughtco.com/tu-quoque-...allacy-1692568
P.S. As to Hunter's laptop, that one is filed away with your 2000 Mules, ballots on Chinese paper, Hillary's emails, Barak's birth certificate, lock her up, stop the steal, John Durham, and the array of Covid conspiracy theories you suckers have been pitching for two years. The one grifting in Ukraine is Trump, caught on tape withholding taxpayer funds for personal favors.
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06-21-22 04:38 #923
Posts: 516As one of a multi-part series, that article makes more sense.
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
Think about it in terms of historical wars. How often did the learned pundits and analysts, writing in the early stages of those wars, get it right? In the Civil War, for example, the early advantages were held by the South as Lee was more advance-minded and McLellan was more on the back foot. So, anyone writing before the 2nd Battle of Bull Run, to pick one milestone, would have been justified in being pessimistic about the Union's prospects.
In WW-II, Allied butt was being royally kicked by the Axis for most of the early stages of the war. Of course, most US media coverage was of the patriotic cheerleader variety, but I'm sure serious analysts had deep concerns regarding the course of the war. But did any pundit or analyst accurately predict that Hitler would try something like Operation Barbarossa, and thereby squander his advantage?
Maybe I've missed a war or particular pundit in which accurate predictions took place. I'll happily admit to that, if such an example exists. But it seems to me that the record of wartime analysts is about as good as those who make economic projections, which is to say not very good. Don't get me wrong, they're great at pointing out things to watch out for, and also for explaining things that have already happened. But the sheer number of dynamic variables involved in a wartime scenario makes it a daunting challenge.
As for my optimism, it's simply based on my assessment of how tidal forces are currently flowing. One prime example is that I think there's been a paradigm shift in how the world views Russia, and what that means for geopolitical relationships going forward. Putin-Dora's Box has been opened, with all the hatefulness and evil revealed, and there's no closing it again. Putin could order a stop to the fighting, and withdraw his forces from Ukraine, but that wouldn't return us to the status quo ante. They've crossed the Rubicon and will be (rightly) perceived as a threat, and NOT as a partner, for decades (or generations) to come. And I think that new reality will create even more alliances in Europe and beyond as a necessary protective counterbalance. Of course there will be bumps in the road, but I think things will come together, not because of altruistic motives, but because of legitimate security concerns. It'll be messy but I think the West (NATO, EU, etc.) will figure it out. OTOH, I don't see any realistic scenario by which Russia avoids pariah status and a significantly more isolated existence than before. And that's a tidal force I see that's flowing inexorably in a negative direction for Russia.