Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[VinDici]

Now that we know who you are, how much do you pay for a girl?

Happy to explain it to you Rii-tard. They pay me. I just show them the dumb shit you post here, and they laugh so hard at the entertainment, they suck my dick and give me a little extra for printing out a screenshot.

[Riina]

Everyone can tell you're a Rii-tard, and wipe your dirty mouth, you still have cum dripping from the corners from sucking all those RuZZian dicks.

Now that we know who you are, how much do you pay for a girl?

[VinDici]

I can tell...

Everyone can tell you're a Rii-tard, and wipe your dirty mouth, you still have cum dripping from the corners from sucking all those RuZZian dicks.

[Riina]

Why not just post in the Russia forum and tell your good buddies how awesome it is to kill Ukrainians. Fuck off out of here you prick.

I can tell you're a vile American VinDick and I can tell the youtuber I posted about is the same vile POS.

[VinDici]

I watched this guys video...

Why not just post in the Russia forum and tell your good buddies how awesome it is to kill Ukrainians. Fuck off out of here you prick.

[Xpartan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJ5vjHEvtI&t=107s

I watched this guys video for one minute and had to click out.

But of course you did. You're a Putin fanboy, why would you have a different reaction?

[Riina]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJ5vjHEvtI&t=107s

I watched this guys video for one minute and had to click out. Although too cowardly to fight on the front line, he's waging a propaganda war against Russia while no doubt safely nailing toots in Kiev. A real hero of Ukraine.

[Xpartan]

A couple days ago, Mr. Pu had a meeting with Irkutsk Governor Mr. Kobzev. In the course of sucking up to the boss, Mr. Kobzev gave him a photograph depicting a group of fallen soldiers and said: "We have 192 citizens of Irkutsk awarded with state awards. Orders, medals. Of these, the youngest, Hero of Russia, is Private Eduard Dyakonov, who died in Mariupol in March last year. He covered a grenade with his body, thereby saving his fellow soldiers. This is very valuable for us, for us they are all heroes, they are in our memory, in our hearts. ".

Mr. Pu responds under his breath: "Tell them I said Hello. ".

Not a joke!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1681328245885530113

The hardest part to me was to believe that the transcript of this meeting is still on Putin's official website -- after every Twitter and Youtube pandit has had their fun with that. But here it is.

The primary source:

http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/71688

[Paulie97]

It's ironic that Russia complains about an agreement that was never made while clearly breaking one themselves with their invasion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/09/u...mes-baker.html

[Paulie97]

And even beyond Gorby's own words, you've been offered enough evidence that there have never been any agreements and / or promises not to extend Nato beyond the borders of Germany. If you can't except the facts, I don't think there is anything else that can be done about it.

That gwu website is, as even if some one term wonder Herbert Walker Bush administration official made some no eastward expansion statement over a cup of coffee it's as useless as tits on a boar hog. Little Vlad and everyone else knows that. There's no US official including the president that can make unilateral policies for NATO. Of course nothing is in writing plus the Warsaw Pact was still in place at that time, setting context. Viewed in the best possible light Russia still has no leg to stand on plus no right to any sphere of influence with an economy about the size of Texas.

[Paulie97]

Kremlin propaganda / false information has fueled an unprovoked invasion of a sovereign land while directly targeting and murdering civilians with precision weapons. This has also involved the deportation and indoctrination of about 200 K Ukrainian children. Their false narratives are no more worthy of respect than Holocaust deniers. Plus respect wouldn't do any good anyway as you can't reason with such people while they'd never honor any agreements. But we are covering ground that was covered long ago, and in greater detail. Anyone interested can go back to the start of the war and forward, chronologically in this thread.

P.S. Regarding the Russian speakers in the Donbass that prefer Russia, it's a good thing that they have a short journey, whether by car or foot. Get out of Ukraine and don't let the door hit you in the ass. It's easy. Go be Russian. A lot of Russian speakers were planted in that area since the Stalinist era famine that killed off millions of Ukrainians.

[Xpartan]

Just one last thing for Xpartan first though.

As communicated to you earlier.

Gorbachev in 2008:

"The Americans promised that Nato wouldn't move beyond the boundaries of Germany after the Cold War but now half of central and eastern Europe are members, so what happened to their promises? It shows they cannot be trusted."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Cold-War.html

Gorbachev, from 2009:

"Kohl, US Secretary of State James Baker and others assured me that NATO would not move an inch east. The Americans didn't stick to that, and the Germans didn't care. Maybe they even rubbed their hands at how well the Russians were ripped off. What did it bring? It's just that the Russians no longer trust Western promises."

https://www.bild.de/politik/2009/bil...4098.bild.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3_0GqPvr4U

And as communicated to you, Tiny, I'm well aware that Gorby gave different accounts on different occasions, but his earlier accounts can be dismissed with prejudice for a simple reason: he and his foundation had to coexist in the same country with Putin right after Putin's 2007 Munich speech launched Russia's most rancid anti-Nato campaign since the Cold War. Thus, Gorbachev's 2008 and 2009 interviews should be considered strictly a way to appease his increasingly volatile and totalitarian chieftain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_M...Vladimir_Putin

In 2011 when Putin's intent to usurp power indefinitely became abundantly clear, Gorbachev publicly denounced Putin and repeated his accusations the following years.

So it only stands to reason that Gorbachev in 2008 and 2009 doesn't hold a candle to Gorbachev in 2015.

And even beyond Gorby's own words, you've been offered enough evidence that there have never been any agreements and / or promises not to extend Nato beyond the borders of Germany. If you can't except the facts, I don't think there is anything else that can be done about it.

[VinDici]

Treat them with respect and they most likely will engage respectfully.

They are a pair of cunts. The interactions with them are the same as with the Russian State, respectful engagement made no difference, both of those fuckheads ignored any debate, lied over and over again, and spread falsehoods and propaganda. Next time read the history of the thread before telling us to show respect.

[Tiny 12]

That's what he's been doing daily for many months now on the American Politics thread in the ISG "Opinions" forum while calling himself a centrist. He's been debunked from here to Sunday then recently came to this thread to restart even though he's never been to Ukraine. Likely he discovered this discussion by searching the post histories of people he's been going back in forth with on the other thread.

For example he has ignored all that facts that clearly debunk the notion that Russia was given an oral promise regarding no NATO expansion into Eastern Europe. It's plainly false, but even if true only a complete fool wouldn't insist on getting something so important in writing.

https://hls.harvard.edu/today/there-...-enlarge-nato/

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...reement-again/

https://theconversation.com/ukraine-...he-east-177085

So what can you do with someone who digs in online, ignores all corrections and keeps repeating the same fallacious arguments over and over? Ultimately all you can do is ignore them.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_nauseam

Fair enough. I don't want to intrude upon your private war fest.

Just one last thing for Xpartan first though.

And Gorbachev debunked your Council.

As communicated to you earlier.

Gorbachev in 2008:

"The Americans promised that Nato wouldn't move beyond the boundaries of Germany after the Cold War but now half of central and eastern Europe are members, so what happened to their promises? It shows they cannot be trusted."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Cold-War.html

Gorbachev, from 2009:

"Kohl, US Secretary of State James Baker and others assured me that NATO would not move an inch east. The Americans didn't stick to that, and the Germans didn't care. Maybe they even rubbed their hands at how well the Russians were ripped off. What did it bring? It's just that the Russians no longer trust Western promises."

https://www.bild.de/politik/2009/bil...4098.bild.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3_0GqPvr4U

[Paulie97]

Wow a lot of parroting of Kremlin narratives.

That's what he's been doing daily for many months now on the American Politics thread in the ISG "Opinions" forum while calling himself a centrist. He's been debunked from here to Sunday then recently came to this thread to restart even though he's never been to Ukraine. Likely he discovered this discussion by searching the post histories of people he's been going back in forth with on the other thread.

For example he has ignored all that facts that clearly debunk the notion that Russia was given an oral promise regarding no NATO expansion into Eastern Europe. It's plainly false, but even if true only a complete fool wouldn't insist on getting something so important in writing.

https://hls.harvard.edu/today/there-...-enlarge-nato/

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...reement-again/

https://theconversation.com/ukraine-...he-east-177085

So what can you do with someone who digs in online, ignores all corrections and keeps repeating the same fallacious arguments over and over? Ultimately all you can do is ignore them.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_nauseam