Thread: Stupid Shit in Kyiv
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12-12-23 12:53 #2388
Posts: 330Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
Russian as it is now, will never stop meddling in UA politics, they can't even stop meddling in US and EU politics.
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12-12-23 06:39 #2387
Posts: 1807This is an interactive map of areas held by Russia and the Ukraine:
https://www.nzz.ch/english/ukraine-w...ine-ld.1688087
Open the web page in two browser windows. Leave one at the current date, 6-11 December, 2023. In the second window, take the date back to 17 November, 2022.
You'll see the two sides have been stalemated for over a year. Any change in the area occupied by Russia is imperceptible.
And how many combatants and civilians have been killed or injured during that period? Hundreds of thousands?
This will go on indefinitely, as long as the two sides have the will, the arms and the young men to continue. The West needs to put pressure on both countries to end the war. Ukraine should give up the idea it can return to pre-2014 borders. It won't happen, and in any event based on polling data the majority in the occupied areas (Crimea and Russian occupied Donbas) preferred to be affiliated with Russia instead of Ukraine before the recent hostilities broke out. Russia should accept the territorial integrity and independence of the rest of the Ukraine, and stop meddling in Ukrainian politics.
I'm not saying the West should pull the plug on aid to Ukraine. It should however push Ukraine to the negotiating table. Russia has been willing to talk for a while, although admittedly who knows if the Kremlin is sincere.
Something like what exists in Korea, a permanent cease fire along the current lines of control, would be much, much preferable to the current situation.
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12-12-23 03:56 #2386
Posts: 1332Originally Posted by VinDici [View Original Post]
While you're at it, why don't you ask the Turks to leave Cyprus, or for the Israeli's to uproot all the settlers from the west bank, I could give you many more examples.
Ukraine will have to cede territory, they are not getting the 4 new territories or Crimea back. Everyone knows that. Time to accept reality and make peace. The longer this goes on, the more difficult it will get for Ukraine. That's the reality.
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12-12-23 00:37 #2385
Posts: 2815Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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12-11-23 13:36 #2384
Posts: 330If you want peace, just ask the Occupiers to leave Ukraine and there will be peace, it's not rocket science.
Originally Posted by BloodRed [View Original Post]
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12-11-23 13:10 #2383
Posts: 1332Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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12-11-23 13:08 #2382
Posts: 1332Originally Posted by AntonySun1996 [View Original Post]
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12-11-23 12:13 #2381
Posts: 330I've made a pretty solid claim, where is your evidence to the contrary?
Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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12-11-23 04:49 #2380
Posts: 1976You're a bit overdue
Originally Posted by Riina [View Original Post]
What exactly is he wrong about?
Your mighty, invincible, peerless army was supposed to have taken Kyiv by Feb 27,2022. Remember that?
Instead, the only country you have managed to defeat is your own.
The only people you have managed to enslave is your own.
Good job!
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12-11-23 01:54 #2379
Posts: 713Originally Posted by VinDici [View Original Post]
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12-11-23 00:46 #2378
Posts: 2815Originally Posted by VinDici [View Original Post]
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12-10-23 19:14 #2377
Posts: 330Given the size, strength and budget of the Orc army vs Ukraine, the orcs are by no means kicking ass, in terms of lives lost, economic destruction and equipment losses, Russia is the one getting pummeled.
Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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12-10-23 04:48 #2376
Posts: 2815Originally Posted by AntonySun1996 [View Original Post]
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12-10-23 02:45 #2375
Posts: 1327To add some content (mostly omissions with some MIC sales pitch):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-war-defenses/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ng-russia-war/
By the way, do you know the difference between a Russian Roulette and an Ukrainian Roulette? (pun intended: in Russian 'roulette' also means any type of ground food product).
The players of the Ukrainian Roulette charge 5 rounds into the cylinder.
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12-09-23 23:41 #2374
Posts: 263Originally Posted by BloodRed [View Original Post]