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03-21-22 09:08 #343
Posts: 1258Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
If anyone had been paying attention in 2013 and 2014 when their corrupt president betrayed them and they rose up and protested and the more protesters they killed and kidnapped the more people showed up to protest and fight.
This documentary "Winter on Fire" captured this perfectly. This was them fighting when they had no guns and the people they were fight did have guns. That takes some balls. The video starts dark but just for a few seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzNxLzFfR5w
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03-20-22 22:14 #342
Posts: 132Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
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03-20-22 20:50 #341
Posts: 516Glad you agree that US-led NATO is in the ascendancy
Tell me something I don't know.
Zelensky, a clown by profession
As a fun thought-experiment, I wonder how you'd describe Putin if you weren't such a sycophant? Would you dwell on his short stature? Some reports list him at 165 cm (5'5") and mention that he uses lifts in shoes. Would you derisively observe that his height deficit makes it deliciously appropriate to wonder whether he suffers from a Napoleon Complex? If so, you'd be perfectly justified in pointing out that his need for macho demonstrations, like riding shirtless on horseback, is evidence of that. Then, for an encore, would you indulge in some hilarious comments about how such overcompensation mechanisms are often indicative of someone having a male "package" that is less than adequate?
Was poor Little Vlad teased and hazed in the KGB locker room? Maybe his friends could tell us? Oh, wait, anyone who teased him has probably been exterminated by now, and anyone left alive knows better than to talk.
Yessiree, I'm betting you'd have quite a field day with Little Vlad, if you ever decided to switch allegiances! He's such a juicy target for your ad hominem barbs, don't you think?
The USA is the root of all evil
It's heartening to see that, while your bias is intractable, the vast majority of Europe has clearly rejected Putinism (the new Stalinism) in favor of the Western model. And that model, for the foreseeable future, includes increased influence in Europe for the US and NATO.
Europe has to get rid of its collaboratorsHopefully, RussiaHopefully this time Uncle Sam
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03-20-22 15:33 #340
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
This is a laymen's question. I would guess that there would be workarounds through neutral countries' servers.
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03-20-22 15:23 #339
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by YummyPL [View Original Post]
On the other side, we will have to see how the Russian public views the bloody and costly foray into the Ukraine. This war is clearly not Georgia, Moldova or Crimea. The economic fallout is also something the Russian people have not had to realize from Putin's previous military actions.
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03-20-22 14:05 #338
Posts: 1056US Bla Bla 101
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
Hopefully, Russia will shut him and his C18 and Azov Nazi pals forever soon.
The USA is the root of all evil, as millions of dead Vietnamese, Afghans and Iraqis could have testified had Uncle Sam not murdered them. (Ukraine helped the genocide in Iraq).
Europe has to get rid of its collaborators and strike deals with Russia and China and treat Americans at all levels as the jerks that they are.
There is a lot of disquiet that is hard to direct when Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, the Bolshoi, Yuri Gagarin, Russia cats, dogs and trees are banned. We have been down this road before in 1914. The EU and USA both run on them pty tanks. That is their weakness. Hopefully this time Uncle Sam will pay.
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03-20-22 10:40 #337
Posts: 43Update
Hello all,
Not much to report. It seems we will be leaving Kyiv to the border. We've paid a local to help us with transportation as I've mentioned before.
I had a long post written up as to proving my validity however it didn't get posted for some reason. Ah well.
As I have said before I have no reason to mislead or lie to others. If you let me know any pictures of landmarks in Kyiv you want me to post, I will take a picture and write my name on a piece of paper to prove my validity and that I'm actually in Ukraine.
As for the poster who is also in Ukraine. I don't have the PM facility.
Will every foreigner that comes to Ukraine get attacked? Of course not. We came at a specifically ridiculous and emotionally tense time. I hope other foreigners come to Ukraine and post their reports. If they disagree with my reports that's fine, they just had a different experience. The more reports on the forum the better.
I'm not a troll. If there's anything you want me to do, pictures you want me to take, phone calls or whatever. Please let me know and I will take them. As me and my group are leaving Ukraine, this or early next week. I'm not apprehensive anymore about exposing my identity.
As for me being online, I leave my laptop turned on almost 24/7 while I do other stuff. Plus please also accommodate that when I make a post, it doesn't show instantly but must be approved by admin before it is shown on the board.
Hope that's ok.
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03-19-22 21:18 #336
Posts: 516Putin has guaranteed a stronger US presence in Europe
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Putin may have the ability to destroy much of Ukraine, but he's simultaneously flushed the future of Russia down the toilet. Sanctions will last for years, if not decades. There's already a been a brain-drain going on that is likely to continue, if not increase, as young Russians confront the limited prospects of an isolated country. And let's all sit back and watch how long it takes "good friend" China to start tightening the screws on their newly acquired vassal state. I'm getting the popcorn ready now!
Once again it's clearly evident that your fantasies are irrelevant and that reality is firmly pointing in a direction that is guaranteed to make your head 'splode. Putin has strengthened the West, NATO, and the US, in a way that would never have happened had he not invaded. Sposibo bolshoye, Vlad!
P.S. I have no illusions about Ukraine. All their future paths are varying levels of dismal for years to come. But Russia, instead of playing the longer and more patient game (like China), gambled it all and is now staring into the abyss.
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03-19-22 17:29 #335
Posts: 2805Yes. Thank you for the link.
Before this war, I made 3 statements to friends--I guess my predictions. I think I am right with 2 out of 3.
1st: There is no way in hell Russia will invade Ukraine--it just doesn't make any sense. I got this one wrong (2nd: If Russia invades Ukraine, the Ukrainians will fight like hell, and they will be better than anyone thinks they will be.
3rd: If Russia invades Ukraine, they will lose any pro-Russian sentiment they have forever. Instead of gaining an ally, they will make a steadfast enemy.
Nobody, could have ever predicted this outcome, but the longer it goes on nobody wins. There will be nothing will be left of Ukraine, Russia will be broke and isolated. The rest of the world's economy will be greatly weakened or worse.
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03-19-22 17:23 #334
Posts: 499Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
Before this war, I made 3 statements to friends--I guess my predictions. I think I am right with 2 out of 3.
1st: There is no way in hell Russia will invade Ukraine--it just doesn't make any sense. I got this one wrong (2nd: If Russia invades Ukraine, the Ukrainians will fight like hell, and they will be better than anyone thinks they will be.
3rd: If Russia invades Ukraine, they will lose any pro-Russian sentiment they have forever. Instead of gaining an ally, they will make a steadfast enemy.
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03-19-22 16:06 #333
Posts: 2844Ukraine's Future with Putin's Plans.
Whizzing through so many sources and channels to see what the Future hold for Ukraine, I found this very interesting Article on Ukraine, and I am afraid it doesn't sound like a promising Future for the Brave and Lovely People of this Unfortunate country being destroyed.
https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions...e-for-ukraine/
"Ceasefire agreement may come too late for Ukraine.
To avoid the appearance of failure, Russia may agree to a ceasefire in Ukraine only after ensuring it has turned the country into Syria's identical twin. "
About the writer of the Article, a Wiki search shows what A a Beauty With Brains Born in Moscow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksenia_Svetlova
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03-19-22 14:03 #332
Posts: 132Either there is some serious scapegoating going on, or the reality is that Putin was led astray by FSB's Ukraine's division. Hence the unexpected (for Putin) outcome of the invasion. Be that either way, it's good news for Ukraine.
Neurosynth's observations about HulaHoop's posts seem valid enough. There was a strong sense of a joke.
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03-19-22 08:52 #331
Posts: 1056Praque
Prague's beauty is because the Wehrmacht did not destroy it in 1945. Prague has always been at the heart of Western / Central Europe. Lower Bohemia is where the Wars of the Reformation were fight, with 33% fatalities.
Prague has recently been colonized by flotsam, Americans in the main, pricing Czechs out of the market. It is a major centre of off kinds of shtt.
The 1914-45 European Civil War is over. It is time for the USA to pack up and fuck off back home to continue their manifest destiny of slaughtering the Natives and locking up Blacks.
Russia will bring Clown Zelensky and his Azov death squads to heel.
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
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03-19-22 06:32 #330
Posts: 1159Nuclear weapons changed everything. The game theory part is difficult enough, but the assumption of rational actors is itself irrational.
Nobody posting here knows what Putin's health is like. He might be going mad. And if he is, no amount of history will matter. He gets a nuclear holocaust if he wants one. We are not in control.
But if we do survive, I hope we will finally realize nukes have to be negotiated down and then eliminated. That will be harder than ever, now that the world has seen how third rate the Russian army is.
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03-19-22 02:23 #329
Posts: 516Historical parallels are always a bit tricky
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
It's my sense that the author views appeasement as something to be avoided because it will only feed the beast (as with WW-II and Hitler). We don't know how Putin will respond, but we know he views the West as weak and therefore anything less than a strong response is likely to fail. Lots of room for debate, that's for sure, but that's the gist of the author's argument.
You're certainly correct about 1939 German forces vs Russian forces now. Although it seems 2022 Russia had a high estimate of their own capabilities, especially in comparison to their low estimate of Ukraine's. Putin obviously didn't have an accurate and objective assessment, or things would have been done differently. He's had a reality check now, but he clearly believed in Russia's overwhelming military superiority. Hitler made a similar miscalculation when he launched Operation Barbarossa.
About Hungary and Czechoslovakia, both were charter members of the Warsaw Pact. This was in the 1950's and 60's. So, in a Cold War context, Soviet control and suppression of their satellite states, while being publicly and diplomatically condemned, would also have been viewed as internal to the Soviet Bloc. USSR-controlled territory was theirs to command and the West wasn't going to change that.
That's a far cry from today's situation. The USSR has dissolved and former Soviet Bloc countries have mostly gone their own way. Putin is now pursuing an expansionary campaign in a way the Cold War Soviets were not. At least one facet of his scheme appears to be a partial reconstruction of the Soviet era sphere of control, except now using the rationale of uniting ethnic Russians in a New (and Greater) Russia. Both Hungary and the Czech Republic are now NATO members and I doubt either country wants to turn back the clock. I'm not sure mid-20th Century Cold War circumstances are directly analogous here. Again, those tricky historical parallels may not fully apply.
One further problem with the Ukraine situation is that (IMO) it's a mistake to think Putin won't use any victory, or concessions, as license to pursue future aggressive expansions. Why would he hesitate to declare "de-Nazification" campaigns in the Baltics or elsewhere? And Greater Russia surely can't be denied a land corridor to Kaliningrad, right?
That's why the Twitter author takes a strong stand against appeasement. And, after considering the pros and cons of the matter, I tend to agree. How that plays out in a practical sense remains to be seen. But I don't see any indications that Putin will voluntarily stop.