Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[JonasWRay]

Where did you read that Avalon is closed?

When was the last time you were in Kiev? 2-3 years ago?

How can you create a list of Clubs in Kiev and pretend to provide advise for newbies here on anything related to Kiev, when all your info is based on hear-say and contempt for anything in Ukraine?

For Forum members: Avalon is alive and more than well after 20 years in business, and IMO keeps getting better with every year! I do not see any reason for it getting closed. In fact as a restaurant I like it much better than anything in Arena. My top 10 favorite in Kiev. It is not exactly a pick up place though. I go there with my new dates to relax and have great time. I am also acquainted with all Avalon hostesses, director of the first floor, and general manger of the whole complex, that includes spa, karaoke, fitness and more. Had a very nice dinner there a week ago. Introduced one distinguished Forum member to it few weeks ago, and we had an amazing conversation. Thanks to Jackson again!

Cheers!

Thanks! Always enjoy you're honest and non-biased opinions and information whether it be bad or good.

There are still 2 particular individuals who are providing no valuable information other than negativity towards the country or attacking those who deem otherwise. In fact, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they were the same person using two accounts.

But hey, this should should really be placed in the thread for stupid shit but since they aren't being moderated then what's the point?

GIA was my go to in the past and I thoroughly enjoyed it for both quality and price. Messed around with Mamba but was never really able to follow through with it but given the amount of correspondence I had on it I don't doubt I could have. Tinder was a definite goldmine. Never mongered on it but I was able to meet girls really easily. There are other dating specific sites that I don't want to flat out giveaway as I was able to secure non-paying interactions so they weren't necessarily geared towards mongering but that's not to say they couldn't have been. Maybe I just got lucky. Not to say I'm some sort of Casanova but I am middle aged, above average physically fit, socially adept, and have a pretty disposable income.

Point is, whether you're in Kiev to monger or not, it's extremely easy to meet girls that, in my opinion, are drop dead gorgeous.

Compare that to here in the States and there is no comparison whatsoever. I can't speak of the FKK's and other options in Western Europe as I've never mongered there. Not even going to compare with Asia or South American countries as those are completely different types of girls.

So all this talk of old days and inflated prices is ridiculous because guess what? Inflation is a global phenomenon. Deal with it. If you don't have the cash then work harder or tough luck. Even at the inflated prices it's still way cheaper than in the US so I'm not going to complain.

[Riina]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107...bbed-of-18-000

If this poor fella would have read this forum, he would have known that he was a target the moment he landed in Ukraine.

[Riina]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107...bbed-of-18-000

If this poor guy had read this forum and realized Kiev was a scam city scam culture, he would have likely avoided this mess. He was probably robbed by a girl and doesn't want to admit it.

[Riina]

http://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/

Guys,

Chicago is becoming a hub for Euro hookers. I think because NY, LA, and Miami are becoming very expensive places to live. Plus their's not much marketing available since the other forum went dark in the states. Post Fosta / Sesta has been the best mongering time of my life. The way girls are looking at me now is similar to post 911 when Russians saw me as a path to papers.

If you make a trip to Chicago, get a hotel in Prospect Heights, Illinois at Milwaukee Ave and Willow Road. Nail your brains out with Russians and Ukrainians cheaply.

[PhotoSlider]

Why is someone on a pay for sex forum if they are so attractive and don't have to pay.

I am not that attractive, and I do both P4P and free.

Why someone is on our Forum. ? Rhetoric question. Yet in my not so humble opinion the answers might be:

Vanity. Pride. Bragging. Ego hurt by loss. The usual emotions within the male circles.

Vanity is more positive, as long as it is not at the expense of others by belittling them.

Bitching on the other hand, even when ill disguised as an attempt to warn others, is mostly negative. Thanks God, this thread has been created. If only pollution in the Kiev Forum was moderated a little better in that respect. But we are all adults, no babysitting needed. Jackson is understandably busy.

The righteous ones help the community by meaningful credible info, analytics and positive applicable hints: Jymondor, Kozerog, Norsking, Riina, Jojosun, Rog123, et al.

[Riina]

I think because I've become a relationship junkie with fucked up girls. My days of satisfying primal needs are almost over. Amazing what you can learn and the empathy you can come to feel for different people when you're up close. Ukraine would be a goldmine for me.

[Michi T]

Yeah, you are the best! And we simply are the low life creatures trying hard to keep up with true leaders.

Seriously speaking Kiev and Ukrainian girls in general are well known for turning people insane, and even disappearing for weeks and months. Mike Tyson, JC Van Damm, etc.

What you mean by insulting me? Is all right with you?

Ukrainian girls are just greedy for mone. That was told to me today by a Iranian lady that I met in the Billa supermarket. She converted from the Islam to the Christianity. And she is right. Ukrainian people in gerneral and girls in particular cannot be traustet-.

[Riina]

Why is someone on a pay for sex forum if they are so attractive and don't have to pay.

[PhotoSlider]

Ohhh, ok, so, this forum is mainly about "sex for money". That explains a lot.

My approach is not to pay for girls, my approach is to speak to girls in everyday life and to start from there. Without payments involved.

Now I start to understand why most guys here in the forum have no idea how to talk to a girl on the street but constantly say about girls they have. That may also explain why some pople love Kiev (mainly those who pay for sex) and some people hate sex (mainly those old and not so taltented guys who never land with a young girl).

Loooool!

Nonetheless, I keep my way, talking to normal girls on the street and pay only in very rare situations for a girl. Looooooolll!

Yeah, you are the best! And we simply are the low life creatures trying hard to keep up with true leaders.

Seriously speaking Kiev and Ukrainian girls in general are well known for turning people insane, and even disappearing for weeks and months. Mike Tyson, JC Van Damm, etc.

[Michi T]

Monger is a short name for mongersex, one who frequents working girls and prostitutes.

For instance: "he's a true monger, even his vacations are all to some fucking destinations".

Ohhh, ok, so, this forum is mainly about "sex for money". That explains a lot.

My approach is not to pay for girls, my approach is to speak to girls in everyday life and to start from there. Without payments involved.

Now I start to understand why most guys here in the forum have no idea how to talk to a girl on the street but constantly say about girls they have. That may also explain why some pople love Kiev (mainly those who pay for sex) and some people hate sex (mainly those old and not so taltented guys who never land with a young girl).

Loooool!

Nonetheless, I keep my way, talking to normal girls on the street and pay only in very rare situations for a girl. Looooooolll!

[Volpone]

Can one of you dudes explain me the term "mongering"? What is this actually?

Monger is a short name for mongersex, one who frequents working girls and prostitutes.

For instance: "he's a true monger, even his vacations are all to some fucking destinations".

[Riina]

Can one of you dudes explain me the term "mongering"? What is this actually?

According to Urban Dictionary. A person who is actively researching and on the prowl for sexual intercourse with a professional or otherwise. This mostly happens away from home in a foreign Country or City, but can happen right in your own town..

I prefer the word hobbyist.

[Michi T]

Riina,

I just wanted to say you are one of the few people on this page that does both post positive and the reality in Kiev and some of the negative issues to mongering in Kiev. I appreciate your posts and I wish others would do the same.

I will try to be more positive, but I do feel the current situation in Kiev is bad especially for Newbies. I worry about the new guys planning trips to Kiev, it can be real difficult for them, possibly a real expressive and bad experience. I hope when guys post they keep this in mind.

Can one of you dudes explain me the term "mongering"? What is this actually?

[PhotoSlider]

Thread Starter.

What a great brilliant awesome thought indeed! Forum became too polluted with prepostorous pseudo-reports to continue as is. Thank you!

[DramaFree11]

Riina,

I just wanted to say you are one of the few people on this page that does both post positive and the reality in Kiev and some of the negative issues to mongering in Kiev. I appreciate your posts and I wish others would do the same.

I will try to be more positive, but I do feel the current situation in Kiev is bad especially for Newbies. I worry about the new guys planning trips to Kiev, it can be real difficult for them, possibly a real expressive and bad experience. I hope when guys post they keep this in mind.