Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[DramaFree11]

Yes, you dudes, please stop hiting and jelling at each other! That can be done in the "fuck shit Kiev" forum!

Here we go for fights and aggressive discussions - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4028-Stupid-Shit-in-Kiev

Let's keep silent and peasful here in this forum

Great point! You and others give great pointers and I give you credit because you meet girls on the street and in real life. Other continue to fabricate and exaggerate about Kiev. They want to keep this illusion alive of Kiev, of 10-20 years ago. They continue to double and triple down or there point of views. The refuse to listen to facts and they use these ridiculous formulas to try and prove there point. If this would stop I would stop posting. I just do not want to see a newbies get screwed over in Kiev and that real possibility. This is the only reason I post on Kiev page.

[Michi T]

I thought we are here on the Forum to help each other, not to trap.

BTW, do you know a reliable repair shop to replace an iPhone battery in Kiev?

That part of Ukraine is very interesting indeed. It still has the Turkish name "Budzhak", meaning the corner, or maybe even a nook. A mix of Romanian / Moldavian, Ukrainian, Russian, Jewish and even some leftovers from Mongolian invasion back in XIII century. Girls are beautiful though!

I wouldn't recommend anybody going there for mongering unless you have strong connections. I went with yet another 20 years old, who now is in Kiev. Memories make the life worth living.

Yes, you dudes, please stop hiting and jelling at each other! That can be done in the "fuck shit Kiev" forum!

Here we go for fights and aggressive discussions - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4028-Stupid-Shit-in-Kiev

Let's keep silent and peasful here in this forum

[DramaFree11]

And I thought you would be trapped. And answer me that you have already been there.

The fact is: $ 100 for a meeting is portrayed as ridiculous. Instead, a used iPhone 6 or 6's is proposed. But this is already available for $ 150. I already mentioned the source. Of course, there are phones of different qualities. But a Ukrainian knows the true value. So $ 150. Because top quality is not expected. But here a value of $ 200 to $ 300 was given for such a phone. That's not true. So the $ 150 for such a phone is closer to the $ 100. About which you laughed. Here you are still trying to save money. And $ 150 is still not $ 300. Which were proposed for a meeting "in 2019".

Misterxxx,

You are wasting you time with this guy. He just likes to argue, he refuse to admit he is wrong and refuses to see the other side of anything. Sometimes I wonder if he is even goes to Kiev, the place that I use to love, but everyone has to admit to the decline, but he refuses. He is good at calling escorts and yelling at the operator. I have said, this before he has no regard for Newbies when he makes crazy statements.

Here is an example of some of the latest:

1. Kiev is better then 10 years ago.

2. I can have 3 9's in weekend.

3. Send guys to clubs that are empty and have been empty for years.

4. Refers guys to GIA.

5. Thinks it is funny when girls ask for money.

6. Does not bother him about the bait / switch.

Listen Kiev is good if you can find girls for less then $150 for multiple hours, but anything more is a complete rip off to bang 6's or lower.

[PhotoSlider]

And I thought you would be trapped. And answer me that you have already been there.

I thought we are here on the Forum to help each other, not to trap.

BTW, do you know a reliable repair shop to replace an iPhone battery in Kiev?

That part of Ukraine is very interesting indeed. It still has the Turkish name "Budzhak", meaning the corner, or maybe even a nook. A mix of Romanian / Moldavian, Ukrainian, Russian, Jewish and even some leftovers from Mongolian invasion back in XIII century. Girls are beautiful though!

I wouldn't recommend anybody going there for mongering unless you have strong connections. I went with yet another 20 years old, who now is in Kiev. Memories make the life worth living.

[PhotoSlider]

And I thought you would be trapped. And answer me that you have already been there.

As Arnold Schwarzenegger said in "Commando" if I am not mistaken:

- You forgot to say "please".

Yes I have been to the border with Romania, as already has been stated. Doesn't make me more important.

A used telephone can break.

Everything breaks eventually. Girl may drop and break glass on new iPhone XS, and that would cost much more to fix than buying a phone at Radio Rynok. And all of it is not my problem.

That iPhone5 that I gave away is still working. Surrogate mother-in-law is very happy. When it breaks, she'll throw it away. It was free, no money transaction executed. She has separate working Droid phone. Same with the girl in question.

Yes these are LTRs, but I am not obligated. If I am around, I'll help fixing it. If I still like and trust the girl, I may even transfer her funds remotely using Ukrainian banking system, but I very rarely do that. Prefer to give money face-to-face, and get a DFK with continuation in return.

Such a problem can affect the good relationship. A very simple girl from the country can be impressed. But a girl from Kiev? In no way. Or do you go to a second-hand clothes shop with your girls?

I do not go to any clothes shops with my girls. And I don't care if they go to second hand on their own with the money I give them. In fact, I prefer them without any clothes.

This particular girl is not from Kiev, certainly is not simple, and is not demanding. We enjoy each other company and together with or without money transactions. That is why it is LTR. Most of my contacts aren't from Kiev originally, with rare exceptions, but they reside in the Capitol now. More convenient for everybody.

I do not pay much attention to origin or pedigree. Young Ukrainian ladies quite often impress with their IQ and how mature they are, how developed mentally, regardless of where they are from. I do not believe you think of a country girl, or a simple girl as a somebody not good enough. I like them all. Simple and sophisticated.

This girl instead of playing a lottery with a random seller at Radio Rynok trusts that my used phone will work for another couple years. I most likely will not be around when the time comes to replace it with the new phone. Only a handful of girls stay with me longer than 3-5 years. Some get married, get a job, some change too much, or simply disappear without a notice. Normal process of evolution. There's enough fish in the see.

Apparently you and I have different perception of reality, and that is perfectly fine. As one wise person said here on the Forum:

- The World would be a boring place, if everybody was exactly the same.

You are entitled to have your opinion. IMHO we are getting into too much detail discussing very simple matter. I already got my answers from Horny American in a very concise form.

[Misterxxx]

Ukraine doesn't have border with Bulgaria. It's a common misconception...

And I thought you would be trapped. And answer me that you have already been there.

The fact is: $ 100 for a meeting is portrayed as ridiculous. Instead, a used iPhone 6 or 6's is proposed. But this is already available for $ 150. I already mentioned the source. Of course, there are phones of different qualities. But a Ukrainian knows the true value. So $ 150. Because top quality is not expected. But here a value of $ 200 to $ 300 was given for such a phone. That's not true. So the $ 150 for such a phone is closer to the $ 100. About which you laughed. Here you are still trying to save money. And $ 150 is still not $ 300. Which were proposed for a meeting "in 2019".

In addition: A used telephone can break. What do you do when the phone stops working a month later? Total loss. The girl will be upset. But you would like to continue to meet the girl. What does the plan look like? Will you give $ 300 for the last meeting? And take the phone back? Or $ 100 or $ 150 or $ 200? A new phone is being repaired by the store. Minimum: A used, no longer functioning phone will cause costs. About that the girl will be annoying. Even if a repair costs only 500 UAH.

Such a problem can affect the good relationship. A very simple girl from the country can be impressed. But a girl from Kiev? In no way. Or do you go to a second-hand clothes shop with your girls?

[PhotoSlider]

I think I know the Ukraine better than most people in the forum. How much time did you spend in the Ukraine? Several years? Like me? You were in the Ukraine when the Maidan burned? Like me? Do you know Kiev as it was over 20 years ago? Or 10 or 5 years ago? Did you travel through the Ukraine? From Lviv and Lutsk to Crimea? To Kharkiv, Zaporishe, Donetsk and Odessa? To the border to Bulgaria? And also to the small towns?

Ukraine doesn't have border with Bulgaria. It's a common misconception. Doesn't really matter. Lets' call it a border with Romania. Yes I did go all the way to Danube River, where people speak an interesting mix of languages.

Yes I know Ukraine for more than 30 years now, and was in Kiev in 1986, the Chernobyl year. I stayed downtown at my GFs apartment at that time. She is nowhere near even a hint of semi-pro or anything.

I did hitchhiking for free with a different civilian GF in 1987 all the way from north of Kharkiv through Kremenchug to Odessa and back with a stop-over in Kiev. She was gorgeous in her mini-skirt helping to stop truck-trailer drivers. One night near Aleksandria or Kirovograd we stayed overnight in the village, just knocked on the door, and the old lady let us sleep in her barn. In the morning she brought us fresh cherries for breakfast. As you know, in Ukraine this is nothing special. God bless that old lady!

I have been to Crimea too many times, at least since 1987, and for another 6 weeks as late as September 2013 before the annexation.

I wish I went to Lviv, Uzhgorod, and many great cities in the West. Somehow I get stuck with girls in Kiev.

Yes, obviously you traveled more than me, and have justified claims on superiority. That's fine. This is not about whose dick is thicker and longer. This is Kiev Forum, as relevant as traveling through all of Ukraine might be.

I prefer that girls from remote towns and villages come to Kiev, and I meet them there. Prostitutes or not. I certainly differentiate, but there is a wide spectrum range in Kiev going from complete prudes to outright pros, and that attracts me personally.

IMHO it is much easier for an average member of this Kiev Forum to go to Kiev and stay in Kiev entertaining himself. There are separate threads for venturing outside.

Where are you looking for an iphone in Kiev? On the Internet? Many of the prices are negotiable. In a shop in the center? That's the wrong place. Go to the suburbs. Or just Radio Rynok. Even there, all prices are not fixed.

Again, you are completely missing the point.Yes Kiev is flooded with all kinds of smartphones, of various quality and price.

I do not look anywhere to buy. I already have very good iPhone 6's 128 GB for free, that I do not need. It looks like new, with box and everything. My guess in Kiev it is at least 200 USD. The girl in question would prefer to pocket the difference between 6's and X or even new 8. And I agree with her, even though we never discussed it. It is difficult to earn money for a student in the college 2-3 hours away from Kiev. And I misspoke, it is not refurbished, it is used. Maybe I should replace the battery, and with that I actually would like to use your advise. Do you know a reliable repair shop? I cannot use a random one, because my friends experienced a different levels of repair quality in Kiev.

IMO 6's was the best iPhone made by Apple, and it has been discontinued. New 6's is not being sold as of September 2018. Too bad. At some point it will not run newer iOS and apps. That is the main logical reason to have a newer model, besides it being a status symbol like Michael Kors purse and shit.

In the past I gave away my retired and perfectly working iPhone 5 mongerphone. Funny, I gave it to mother of my GF in Cherkassy. I asked if after that I should marry her.

Is this young lady my mistress? Well, usually labeling someone a mistress has a connotation of exclusivity. I like my dynamically revolving harem. Right now she is a top 5. Maybe top 3 girl in that harem. I like her a lot. IMO $200-300 for a few nights, that already happened, is more than reasonable. We shall see how much more I will see her, and how I can further help with her tuition. BTW, thanks much to Horny American for staying on the subject, and approving my approach.

Also, as has been said here on the Forum, smart girls in Kiev do not like when money is spent elsewhere, they do watch monger expenses and react. For example, when I used to go to Rio with some of my GFs, they watched very attentively, and objected fiercely to any tips to dancers, literally hissing at them.

[Misterxxx]

Mistress, this is the norm, this guy make the crazy statements all the time. He simply does not care and has had little regard for newbies by his post, his statements do not give accurate picture of Kiev. He thinks it is funny when girls ask him for money or when he is a victim of bait and switch.

I think I know the Ukraine better than most people in the forum. How much time did you spend in the Ukraine? Several years? Like me? You were in the Ukraine when the Maidan burned? Like me? Do you know Kiev as it was over 20 years ago? Or 10 or 5 years ago? Did you travel through the Ukraine? From Lviv and Lutsk to Crimea? To Kharkiv, Zaporishe, Donetsk and Odessa? To the border to Bulgaria? And also to the small towns?

The problem with reality is that you have spent most of your time with prostitutes. Professionals. Or semi-professionals. Not with normal people. The ideas of these girls are different. These girls want to rise. At least financially. In the company of these girls you will never experience the Ukrainian reality.

Where are you looking for an iphone in Kiev? On the Internet? Many of the prices are negotiable. In a shop in the center? That's the wrong place. Go to the suburbs. Or just Radio Rynok. Even there, all prices are not fixed.

[DramaFree11]

I know well, but why do you know that I know?

It is obvious by your posts you know what you are doing. Unlike others you do not exaggerate or fabricate your stories. I give you credit for not paying as myself and others do, so keep up the good work.

[Michi T]

Probably 30-45% are happy. Much better destinations as you know well.

I know well, but why do you know that I know?

[DramaFree11]

Stupid shit in Kiev discussion is so silen!? Everybody now happy with Kiev girls?

Probably 30-45% are happy. Much better destinations as you know well.

[Michi T]

Stupid shit in Kiev discussion is so silen!? Everybody now happy with Kiev girls?

[Jojosun]

I never disclosed whom the individuals are but even then it's easy to deduce as you more than likely have.

So what does that say about the number of people who hate on Ukraine so much?

Anyhow, not my intent to pick a fight. I'm merely one person who has had a positive experience.

I prefer to keep it civil and not attack others with differing opinions as we each deserve to voice them.

So apologies if I offended them I only want to make sure that others understand that that the experience varies from person to person as we are all different in terms of our cash flow, personality, age, physical fitness, etc etc. It's unfair to paint a an absolute negative experience on a country simply because you have had bad experiences. What about those who haven't had a negative experience like myself? Yeah, crap happens but not to everybody.

Can you believe it that crap did happen on one of my trips not just once but twice. Not in Kiev and I've been there loads of times, but in one of the safest cities in the world, Tokyo.

Shinjuku area of Tokyo and my drink got spiked by the Nigerian manager of a hostess bar. I smelt a rat when I had a look at my beer with very frothy head to it.

I just got up and headed to the exit and told him to f off.

Second time a very sexy Chinese hostess managed to fleece me out of nearly US $300 for just touching and feeling her in the club in the Akasaka area of Tokyo.

The 2 big scams didn't turn me against Tokyo as one of the great cities for fun and sex if only exchange rates go back to what they were nearly 10 years ago.

[DramaFree11]

I love how Drama gives his opinion on other posters validity but he admits he hasn't been to Kiev in 2+ years. Rinna is a better source with his Chicago info!

I was talking about accurate and real information, not fictional.

[Member #4722]

You are totally correct Kozerog is a pro and tells things the way they are, both good / bad.

I love how Drama gives his opinion on other posters validity but he admits he hasn't been to Kiev in 2+ years. Rinna is a better source with his Chicago info!