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04-24-23 12:55 #1975
Posts: 1680?
Originally Posted by HessenStud [View Original Post]
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...s/Non-Sequitur
Monger forums truly win the day for the volume of stupid remarks found. Sports forums are a close second.
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04-24-23 08:58 #1974
Posts: 18Bullshit!
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
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04-24-23 04:54 #1973
Posts: 516Anyone who won't post sources shouldn't expect to be taken seriously
Originally Posted by Questner [View Original Post]
But throwing out supposed "data" and "information," while refusing to reveal your sources, is intellectually dishonest. Nobody is going to take your word for anything, eapecially since you've firmly cemented your reputation as a Putin butt-boy. So it's the height of hilarity to watch you try to pretend that you actually care about objective fact and truth.
Let's take your tank production "figures," as just one example. Here's a source that provides information that pretty much blows your narrative out of the water:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...st-in-ukraine/
The article starts by talking about the effect of sanctions on things like optical systems for tanks, then it moves on to the more mundane (yet essential) topic of ball bearings.
"But optics aren't the only thing in short supply in the Russian armored vehicle industry. The Russians also are desperately short of ball-bearings, which they used to get from the United States and Europe before the United States and Europe tightened their sanctions on Russian industry.
A new study from the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington DC confirmed what independent analysts have been saying for months. Tanks and other modern armored vehicles need a lot of ball-bearings. And Russia doesn't have enough bearings to maintain steady production of new vehicles".
"The ball-bearing problem might be even harder for Moscow to solve. Even after trading Sosna-Us for 1 PN96 MT-02's, Uralvagonzavod and Omsktransmash still were at an impasse. Workers were building or restoring most of a tank, then running out of parts.
It's for that reason that Russia has struggled to make good the 2,000 or more tanks it has lost in 14 months of hard fighting in Ukraine. Russian forces need at least 150 new or restored tanks a month just to maintain their front-line strength".
"Careful analysis of activity at Uralvagonzavod and Omsktransmash strongly hints the factories every month are shipping out just a few dozen modern-ish tanks: either new-build T-72 BM3's or T-90 Ms or reconditioned T-72's, T-80's and T-90's that technicians have pulled out of long-term storage.
Which is why the Russians are traveling back in time, technologically speaking, and reactivating 1960's-vintage T-62's and 1950's-vintage T-55's that have been moldering in storage since the 1980's".
So there you have it. A source that explains why the Russians have no balls (bearings, that is), and explains what it means for ACTUAL tank production, which is different from the propaganda coming out of the pro-Russia outlets.
So here's a direct challenge: Do you have the balls to post the actual sources of your alleged facts? Or are you as much of a eunuch as the Russian tank industry?
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04-24-23 03:52 #1972
Posts: 690Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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04-24-23 02:14 #1971
Posts: 1326Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
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04-23-23 20:06 #1970
Posts: 325Originally Posted by Questner [View Original Post]
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04-23-23 19:55 #1969
Posts: 1976Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
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04-23-23 19:00 #1968
Posts: 516That's what many so-called experts said over a year ago
Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
BTW, whenever I see or hear any of those so-called experts who made wrong predictions, and they haven't acknowledged their mistakes, I automatically flag them as unserious posers. No one is infallible, but anyone who cares about the truth should have the intellectual integrity to admit past mistakes.
An honest pundit or expert would detail the reasoning behind the wrong prediction and then move forward to explain how their analysis has evolved. Shameless narrative-mongers and self-promoters will never do that.
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04-23-23 18:34 #1967
Posts: 325Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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04-23-23 17:00 #1966
Posts: 516Problem: Which are ubermenschen and which are untermenschen?
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
And, no matter the country in which the parents decided to settle, any children would be "half-breeds," with all the negatives that inevitably accompany that status. The problem with ubermenschen is that they place a high value on the purity of the bloodline, which doesn't make for a hospitable attitude toward mutts.
Which means, if the parents (or parent) moves to a third country (assuming they can), then they won't be doing anything to help either Russia's or China's demographic problem. Same thing if the child leaves when they're older and on their own. I guess it's an occupational hazard for any "Master Race" that they either eliminate or alienate any who don't meet their purity standards.
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04-23-23 16:56 #1965
Posts: 2814Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
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04-23-23 08:04 #1964
Posts: 690Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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04-23-23 05:53 #1963
Posts: 516Q: Why won't the cowardly clown engage in direct debate?
Originally Posted by Questner [View Original Post]
I responded directly to your bogus assertions with clear evidence that debunks any so-called claim of Russia over Crimea. The full post isn't very far down the page, so it's obvious that you chose to ignore, rather than address it. That's a clear mark of cowardice AND a tacit admission that you're unable to refute the facts presented. As to those facts, here's a short excerpt:
Russia OFFICIALLY recognized Ukrainian independence in August 1991.If Russia had any territorial claims to make, or any objection to the referendum being held in Crimea, or the Donbas, that was the time to raise the issue. All the events of 1991 detailed above are conclusive evidence that Crimea, Donbas, and ALL the territory of the Ukraine SSR, were considered part of the newly independent Ukraine. And that fact was officially recognized by Russia, Ukraine itself, and the world at large.In 1997 two treaties were signed between Ukraine and Russia. One was the "Partition Treaty on the Status and Conditions of the Black Sea Fleet," and the other was the "Russian-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty" In neither of those treaties did Russia seek to exert a claim on Crimea or any other area.Two additional points re 1997:
1. As part of the Friendship Treaty, BOTH nations recognized the inviolability of EXISTING borders. And those borders included Crimea + Donbas as part of Ukraine (see 1991).
2. As part of the Black Sea Fleet Status Treaty, by agreeing to pay Ukraine for the lease of the naval base at Sevastopol, Russia explicitly recognized it as sovereign Ukrainian territory. They, Russia, were leasing from the owner, Ukraine.
I could go on, but there's no need.
Here's an interesting question I'm sure the forum would find fascinating: Are you the kind of coward who, when confronted, pisses himself in public? Or are you the kind of coward who slinks off to his hole and pisses himself in private?
I'm guessing you're the second kind. Maybe we should start a forum poll, eh? Or maybe it doesn't even matter, 'cause either way you're still a cowardly self-pisser.
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04-23-23 05:27 #1962
Posts: 516You have zero facts to back up your narrative.
Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
You claim Ukraine is done, but you have no factual basis for that statement. Ukraine continues to fight and continues to amass battlefield assets from Western allies.
If Ukraine was truly "done," as you claim, then Russia would have already won (defined as taking and holding additional territory) or would be in the process of visibly winning. There are zero objective facts to support that position.
Not only has Russia been pushed back from territory they previously held, but even their singular push to capture one city (Bakhmut) has languished for almost 10 months.
While I don't have a crystal ball as to the eventual outcome, the CURRENT state of affairs blows your thesis out of the water. You really should take your cracked crystall ball to the repair shop.
P.S. I guess in your preferred fantasy world, you've forgotten that Putin gave the order to start the war. Nobody forced him, and neither Ukraine or NATO posed any credible threat. So, either Putin is somebody's puppet or else he's 100% responsible for starting the war.
P. P.S. Russia is the uber-corrupt kleptocracy of all time. Any corruption that plagued, or plagues, Ukraine is a product of their time in the USSR. It will take years to root out, but membership in the EU is a key motivator and Ukraine is taking positive steps. This isn't optional for them, because survival requires EU (and NATO) membership and anti-corruption measures (real, not window dressing) are required before membership will be considered or granted. Russia, meanwhile, continues in a corrupt death spiral that will end up with them becoming nothing more a larger version of North Korea. An isolated pariah state. Good riddance!
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04-23-23 02:23 #1961
Posts: 1326Today Russia has got her own KKK, namely Kaliningrad Region, Kuril Islands and Krim (Crimea) as the most fortified and strategic regions of the country. Would you expect to cede Hawaii to Chinese, San Diego to Mexico and Chesapeake Bay to, let's say, the British? Nope. How successful would Mexico be in retaking control of Texas should we supply it with tanks, ammunition and finance the conflict? Nonsense, it would never happen. So, how do you think Crimea is different? The thing that had pissed the agencies in the West was the secrecy, the boldness and the swiftness of the 2014 operation which was achieved without even one round shot and almost with complete support of the local population.
The other important distinction was the decision in Moscow to support the region, the administration and the people who opposed the right wing nationalistic coup, but at the same not to extend the same support in other regions of Ukraine, where the opposition and resistance to the coup was ultimately defeated by all known dictatorial means. In the recent interview the Russian President admitted that the country in that time was not ready to offer such support on one hand, and relied on the process of negotiations on the other.
'The Crimea is ours and always will be' - the WWII poster below.
'Ours' meaning of course Russian belonging to the people of Crimea. Ukrainians, Russians, Crimean Tatars, Greeks etc. But not to Germany, Britain, Poland, France, Turkey or any other country.