Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Elvis 2008]

Ukrainians are fighting for us? I guess us is a pussy.

Well, Paulie and Xpartan and all the other Democratic hacks are. I voted for Trump not the war mongerer.

But I will support Putin and Xpartan when they join the cause. Hey, Xpartan, Paulie, when you enlist to fight, let me know where you are stationed, and I will send you a case of soup. You guys like Chicken noodle?

[Riina]

Negotiate before it is too late.

Submit before it is too late.

[DramaFree11]

Ukrainians are fighting for us? I guess us is a pussy.

They are destroying there country and the world economy. Negotiate before it is too late.

[DramaFree11]

LOL. Are we talking about my beliefs or yours? You are the one who said I do not believe this proxy war in Ukraine will result in nuclear war. So to clarify, and I should not have to do this except you are such a lunkhead, what percentage does this war in Ukraine add to the chances of nuclear war between us and Russia in your belief?

And no, I do not expect an answer. Your patronizing non-answer answer was to be expected. My question was just to show what an incredibly stupid statement you made. The only reason to risk nuclear war is if our way of life is in imminent danger and saying "I do not believe the risk of nuclear war is increased" is an incredibly arrogant, dangerous, and flippant statement but again, I expect that from you.

WTF are you talking about? Does Ukraine have nuclear weapons? If they do not, then MAD does not apply. Furthermore, if Putin thinks MAD is not relevant and I assume you are saying he is likely to use nuclear weapons, then why has he not? More to the point, you keep saying Ukraine is going to win? How do they win if Russia uses nukes?

So your solution is what? We nuke those countries before they nuke us? Are you out of your fucking mind?

Well, then it makes little sense to provoke the bully. And when you had your non-white-collar fights, did both sides have nuclear weapons? Or believe they did? That would make the most sense. Did you grow up in a mental institution? Seriously?.

Elvis, XMan just makes shit up. I doubt he has been to either place.

[DramaFree11]

Wow, Merdo isn't lying this time. I know, hard to believe, but true. Life expectancy in Russia is way up compared to 2000's, and the alcohol consumption is down (mainly due to the drug-replacement 'therapy', LOL). It needs to be remembered, however, that Russia holds 103rd place in the world, between Libya and Bangladesh, and besides, all-blown wars historically don't do well for life expectancy.

https://www.infoplease.com/world/hea...ncy-by-country

XMan are you producer for CNN or MSNBC, you are so wrong. You and a few people that watch these Networks would believe this crap. If you have traveled to Russia you would know this.

[Riina]

Right now, Ukraine is fighting for us.

Ukrainians are fighting for us? I guess us is a pussy.

[Elvis 2008]

Poor Elvis! Do you really believe that we have ever EVER had a zero percent chance of a nuclear war breaking out since July 1945?

LOL. Are we talking about my beliefs or yours? You are the one who said I do not believe this proxy war in Ukraine will result in nuclear war. So to clarify, and I should not have to do this except you are such a lunkhead, what percentage does this war in Ukraine add to the chances of nuclear war between us and Russia in your belief?

And no, I do not expect an answer. Your patronizing non-answer answer was to be expected. My question was just to show what an incredibly stupid statement you made. The only reason to risk nuclear war is if our way of life is in imminent danger and saying "I do not believe the risk of nuclear war is increased" is an incredibly arrogant, dangerous, and flippant statement but again, I expect that from you.

Now we have Putin who decides that MAD isn't relevant anymore. That the world can be threatened into submission when he or his agitators are flexing a nuclear muscle. That he can simply bluff his way into making the world do his bidding.

WTF are you talking about? Does Ukraine have nuclear weapons? If they do not, then MAD does not apply. Furthermore, if Putin thinks MAD is not relevant and I assume you are saying he is likely to use nuclear weapons, then why has he not? More to the point, you keep saying Ukraine is going to win? How do they win if Russia uses nukes?

Well, we have nothing without MAD. If MAD doesn't exist anymore, nothing will stop China, India, Pakistan, or North Korea (or Russia again) to get into the game too. And other nations will quadruple their efforts to get such a wonderful ultimate bluffing machine.

So your solution is what? We nuke those countries before they nuke us? Are you out of your fucking mind?

All of us who spent their childhoods in a non-white-collar environments know what happens when you capitulate to a bully.

He never stops.

Give him your lunch money, and he'll come for more.

Well, then it makes little sense to provoke the bully. And when you had your non-white-collar fights, did both sides have nuclear weapons? Or believe they did? That would make the most sense. Did you grow up in a mental institution? Seriously?

And whoever doesn't get a simple fact that Putin must be stopped NOW is either a moron, a traitor, or both.

Well, then I suggest you enlist in the fight in Ukraine. But a better suggestion would be to take your dog for a walk, turn off MSNBC and get back on your meds.

[Xpartan]

What does "I do not believe" mean percentage wise? 10%? 20%? If it is anything other than a zero or a hair above that, you are out of your effing mind.

Poor Elvis! Do you really believe that we have ever EVER had a zero percent chance of a nuclear war breaking out since July 1945? Please try not to go into the full panic mode, but since the genie got out of the bottle, there hasn't been a single week, day or hour when the chance of a nuclear war was exactly zero.

Now let me explain something to you step by step, just promise not to cry, OK?

The only thing that makes our peaceful lives possible is the MAD doctrine (look it up, I'm not Wiki).

This doctrine has been accepted by all nuclear actors in the world, no matter how bad they were: even Stalin and Mao bad.

Now we have Putin who decides that MAD isn't relevant anymore. That the world can be threatened into submission when he or his agitators are flexing a nuclear muscle. That he can simply bluff his way into making the world do his bidding.

Well, we have nothing without MAD. If MAD doesn't exist anymore, nothing will stop China, India, Pakistan, or North Korea (or Russia again) to get into the game too. And other nations will quadruple their efforts to get such a wonderful ultimate bluffing machine.

All of us who spent their childhoods in a non-white-collar environments know what happens when you capitulate to a bully.

He never stops.

Give him your lunch money, and he'll come for more.

Give Donbass to Putin, and he'll come for the rest of Ukraine.

Give him Ukraine, and he'll come for the Baltic states.

Give him the Baltics, and he'll come for Poland, Czechia and the rest of Eastern Europe.

At some point, you'll have to stop and fight anyway, but we'll be fighting an emboldened and better prepared enemy.

Right now, Ukraine is fighting for us. It's willing to pay with their own blood and it's a huge bargain for us in America and Europe to pay for this fight in money and weaponry rather than our own blood. We must give them everything they need.

And whoever doesn't get a simple fact that Putin must be stopped NOW is either a moron, a traitor, or both.

[Xpartan]

Sadly for the average Russian, many will just wallow in vodka and pass on at an early age.

Alcoholism is way down and life expectancy way up (but not FR Ukrainian Nazi soldiers) since Putin took over. Take your Nazi talk back to Hamburger land.

Wow, Merdo isn't lying this time. I know, hard to believe, but true. Life expectancy in Russia is way up compared to 2000's, and the alcohol consumption is down (mainly due to the drug-replacement 'therapy', LOL). It needs to be remembered, however, that Russia holds 103rd place in the world, between Libya and Bangladesh, and besides, all-blown wars historically don't do well for life expectancy.

https://www.infoplease.com/world/hea...ncy-by-country

[DramaFree11]

What does "I do not believe" mean percentage wise? 10%? 20%? If it is anything other than a zero or a hair above that, you are out of your effing mind.

If Putin starts losing or we escalate, he will definitely not stop. He will do what it takes to win. Pauline and Exman are to stupid to realize this, but these guys do not want to negotiate. Great strategy, everyone loses, but the arms dealers and producers.

[PedroMorales]

Sadly for the average Russian, many will just wallow in vodka and pass on at an early age.

Alcoholism is way down and life expectancy way up (but not FR Ukrainian Nazi soldiers) since Putin took over. Take your Nazi talk back to Hamburger land.

[WyattEarp]

The standard of living will get worse with time and it will be interesting to see how the russian people will react on the longterm effects.

Sadly for the average Russian, many will just wallow in vodka and pass on at an early age.

[Elvis 2008]

5. I don't believe that Putin and his cronies will resort to using nuclear weapons

What does "I do not believe" mean percentage wise? 10%? 20%? If it is anything other than a zero or a hair above that, you are out of your effing mind.

[Elvis 2008]

Shit scared of Putin? In the 90's?

Check your memory; find your brain.

I guess you think about that Putin didn't become president until after 2000. Well he was on the seen before that as Boris Jeltsin man to be. He thought he would follow his path further. Little did he know that Putin tricket him and only agreed to come in power. Jeltsin admitted his mistake very soon after Putin come to power. Other people has always known that Putin was a hardcore KGB man with his own agenda before he came president. This scared people.

When somebody does what Golfinho just did with you, a kill shot, the best move is to not post and come back and spread your bullshit with a different name. You were caught lying. The best move you could have made was say, "Oh, I got the timing wrong. My bad. " Instead, you just dug yourself in deeper by following up your first lie with a second one.

Now do the predictable and attack me. Just stop it. Come back to the discussion with another name. Mercy Seat now means liar.

[DramaFree11]

Yes, you're right but with a qualification: if they can.

What we're seeing today in Ukraine is that Russians are having a severe shortage of munitions. And not just high-precision artillery, but regular, old-school Soviet munitions as well. They are forced to fire S300 surface-to-air missiles against land targets. In the meantime, Ukrainians have received high-precision HIMARS and other similar weapons that have allowed them to destroy 2 dozens of high-value Russian targets deep behind the front lines in less than 2 weeks. Also consider this:

1. No one has ever won a war against the whole world.

2. Russians are already forced to take smart chips out of washing machines to use in their artillery.

3. Ukraine has said they've already received longer-range, (up to 300 km), weapons. This is a death sentence to Russian logistics (the ones they received before have the range of 80 km).

4. Russians will keep targeting civilians in attempt to instill a steep price for Ukraine to continue fighting. That's futile. Ukraine will keep fighting because they're smart enough to know they don't have another option. Putin CAN NOT be trusted.

5. I don't believe that Putin and his cronies will resort to using nuclear weapons, BUT.

6. The domestic political situation in Russia will worsen to the point of no return within a year or two, and then anything can happen. The final fall of the Russian Empire will be much bloodier and catastrophic than the collapse of the USSR.

It is what it is. Ukraine didn't start it. The West didn't start it. Putin started it to his own (and his country) detriment.

You are completely delusional. Stop watching CNN.